Y Cyfarfod Llawn - Y Bumed Senedd

Plenary - Fifth Senedd


Cyfarfu’r Cynulliad drwy gynhadledd fideo am 13:32 gyda’r Llywydd (Elin Jones) yn y Gadair. 

The Assembly met by video-conference at 13:32 with the Llywydd (Elin Jones) in the Chair.

Croeso, bawb, i'r Cyfarfod Llawn. Cyn i ni ddechrau, dwi eisiau nodi ychydig o bwyntiau. Mae'r Cyfarfod Llawn a gynhelir drwy gynhadledd fideo yn unol â Rheolau Sefydlog y Cynulliad Cenedlaethol ac yn gyfystyr â thrafodion y Cynulliad at ddibenion Deddf Llywodraeth Cymru 2006. Ar ôl ymgynghori â’r Pwyllgor Busnes, bydd rhai o ddarpariaethau Rheol Sefydlog 34 yn gymwys ar gyfer y Cyfarfod Llawn heddiw ac mae’r rheini wedi eu nodi ar yr agenda. A dwi eisiau atgoffa'r Aelodau bod y Rheolau Sefydlog yma yn ymwneud â threfniadau a threfn busnes yn y Cyfarfod Llawn yn gymwys i’r cyfarfod yma. 

Welcome, all, to this Plenary session. Before we begin, I want to clarify a few points. A Plenary meeting held by video conference in accordance with the Standing Orders of the National Assembly for Wales constitutes proceedings of the Assembly for the purposes of the Government of Wales Act 2006. Having consulted with the Business Committee, some of the provisions of Standing Order 34 will apply for today’s Plenary meeting and these are noted on the agenda. I would remind Members that Standing Orders relating to order and the organisation of business in Plenary meetings apply to this meeting.

1. Datganiad a Chyhoeddiad Busnes
1. Business Statement and Announcement

Yr eitem gyntaf ar ein hagenda ni'r prynhawn yma, felly, yw'r datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes, a dwi'n galw ar y Prif Weinidog i wneud y datganiad hynny. 

The first item on the agenda this afternoon is the business statement and announcement, and I call on the First Minister to make that statement.

Diolch, Llywydd. There are several changes to today's agenda: statements from the Ministers for Health and Social Services and Economy, Transport and North Wales have been added; my statement has been extended to 45 minutes; and, finally, the debate on the Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (Wales) Regulations 2020 has been postponed until next week, when they can be debated alongside amending regulations. Draft business for the next three weeks is set out on the business statement and announcement, which can be found amongst the meeting papers available to Members electronically.

Diolch, Lywydd. Mae sawl newid i'r agenda heddiw: ychwanegwyd datganiadau gan y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Gweinidog yr Economi, Trafnidiaeth a Gogledd Cymru; mae fy natganiad wedi'i ymestyn i 45 munud; ac yn olaf, mae’r ddadl ar Reoliadau Diogelu Iechyd (Cyfyngiadau Coronafeirws) (Cymru) 2020 wedi’i gohirio tan yr wythnos nesaf, pan ellir eu trafod ochr yn ochr â rheoliadau diwygio. Mae'r busnes drafft ar gyfer y tair wythnos nesaf wedi'i nodi yn y datganiad a chyhoeddiad busnes, sydd i'w weld ymhlith papurau'r cyfarfodydd sydd ar gael i'r Aelodau'n electronig.

2. Datganiad gan y Prif Weinidog: Coronafeirws (COVID-19)
2. Statement by the First Minister: Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Diolch i'r Prif Weinidog. Yr item gyntaf, felly, o fusnes yw'r datganiad gan y Prif Weinidog ar goronafeirws, a dwi'n galw ar y Prif Weinidog i wneud ei ddatganiad. 

Thank you, First Minister. The first item of business, therefore, is a statement by the First Minister on coronavirus and I call on the First Minister to make the statement.

[Anghlywadwy.]—am y camau diweddaraf wrth i'r Llywodraeth ymateb i'r argyfwng coronafeirws.

Rydym wedi parhau i gyhoeddi cymorth ariannol i gefnogi unigolion ac i helpu gwasanaethau i ymateb i'r argyfwng. Rydym yn dal ati i gydweithio'n agos gyda phartneriaid yn llywodraeth leol, y gwasanaeth iechyd a'r holl wasanaethau cyhoeddus eraill i sicrhau bod pob cymorth angenrheidiol mewn lle. Rydym yn ddiolchgar iawn i bobl Cymru am ddilyn y cyngor pwysig i amddiffyn iechyd pawb. Rydym hefyd yn dechrau cynllunio am y dyfodol pan fyddwn yn dod allan o'r sefyllfa bresennol. Byddwn yn edrych yn ofalus ar y dystiolaeth cyn gwneud unrhyw newidiadau. Byddwn yn tynnu i mewn syniadau i'n helpu ni gyda'r gwaith pwysig yma.

I would like to update Members on the latest steps taken as the Government responds to the coronavirus crisis.

We have continued to announce financial support to support individuals and services in responding to this crisis. We are still working very closely with partners in local government, the health service and all other public services in order to ensure that all necessary support is in place. We are extremely grateful to the people of Wales for following the important advice to protect everyone’s health. We are also starting to plan for the future when we will come out of this current situation. We will be looking closely at the evidence before making any changes. We will draw in new ideas to help us with this important work.

Llywydd, coronavirus is both a public health crisis and an economic crisis. The Ministers primarily responsible for these two portfolio areas will make statements this afternoon about the actions the Welsh Government is taking in response to the virus. There are very few areas of public life that have not been touched by coronavirus, and this afternoon, I will focus on the measures we are taking across other portfolios.

Llywydd, many aspects of housing have been affected, from concerns about people with no home to live in, to people travelling into Wales to their second homes. Since the Senedd last met, we have provided comprehensive advice about the support available for tenants in Wales, including information about benefits, help with rent, bill payments and debt. We’ve provided information to landlords and agents in the private rented sector and guidance to local authorities about how they can continue to enforce standards in rented properties to keep people safe.

We continue to receive weekly reports from chief constables across Wales on the enforcement of regulations. Let me be clear again: travelling to a second home is not an essential journey, and police in Wales are and will stop people attempting to do so.

In social care, we have provided an extra £40 million to support adult social care services to meet the increased costs that the sector is facing. This funding comes directly from our own budget and is part of the £1.1 billion fighting fund we have created to support public services to respond to coronavirus.

I know that many Members have raised concerns about people who have opted for direct payments and employ their own personal assistants, and since the Senedd last met, we have provided specific information for people in that position. Social Care Wales has launched a card for all social care workers to help identify them as critical care workers, and so to access the help and assistance available to them.

Llywydd, education and childcare have been hugely impacted by the virus. We have issued guidance to critical care workers and parents of vulnerable children about how they can get the help that they need in the current circumstances, and we are implementing the extended childcare offer for children of key workers announced by Julie Morgan on 6 April. For many young people, this is a time of distress and anxiety. The Minister for Education, Kirsty Williams, has announced £1.25 million of additional funding to provide extra mental health support for children, helping school counselling services to deal with an anticipated increase in demand. The Minister has also confirmed that A-level and AS-levels results day will be as originally scheduled on 13 August, and on 20 August for GCSEs—the same dates, therefore, as will obtain in both Northern Ireland and England. 

Yesterday, Llywydd, Wales became the first UK nation to confirm additional funding to guarantee free school meals for children during the pandemic. Thirty three million pounds will be made available as additional help to local authorities in this vital area.

Two weeks ago, the Minister for Environment, Energy and Rural Affairs, Lesley Griffiths, answered questions in the Senedd. She has continued to meet with industry representatives from Wales’s farming, fishing, forestry, environment and food and drink sectors to discuss their specific challenges. A new grant is now available to support fishing businesses to cover the fixed costs associated with owning a fishing vessel, and the Welsh Government has launched a bespoke online service to match employers with people looking for work in the agriculture, land or veterinary sectors. That service will help to fill vacancies in the coming months, addressing labour shortages caused by the virus outbreak.

Llywydd, I’d like to end by turning to the future. Last Thursday, the four Governments of the United Kingdom agreed that the current stay-at-home restrictions must continue for at least a further three weeks. Now is not the moment to throw away all the efforts we have made, especially as there are signs of them beginning to bear fruit. But it is really important to stress that the threat from coronavirus is far from over. Sadly, lives will still be lost in the days to come, and I know that all Members will want to pause a moment to remember the 600 people and more who are no longer with us and the grief and distress that this continues to cause to those who are closest to them.

Now, any decision to ease restrictions will only be made when the medical and scientific evidence is clear that the time is right to do so. The process in Wales will be careful, cautious and gradual. There can be no sudden return to the way of life we enjoyed before the pandemic began. And Llywydd, when I made my first statement to the Senedd under our new arrangements, we still faced the realistic anxiety that coronavirus might accelerate its spread in Wales to a point when our NHS could have been overwhelmed. That this has not happened is a tribute to the enormous work that has gone on in such a rapid period to extend the capacity of the service and the efforts that Welsh citizens have made to reduce the circulation of the virus in the community. Today, the number of patients in Welsh hospitals because of coronavirus has stabled and the number of new admissions is falling. Over half our extended critical care capacity is still available. More than 3,000 acute hospital beds are in the same position, and both figures have improved again over the last few days. It is because of that platform that has been created that we can now use the weeks ahead to prepare; to agree a common set of objective measures to identify the point at which it is safe to begin lifting restrictions. These measures will tell us when the time is right to move beyond the current position.

There will be a risk that the virus will begin to circulate again. We need to set out strong public health surveillance measures so that if there are local outbreaks, we can identify them quickly and respond effectively. In Wales, we have retained a national public health service with a strong local presence and we must use this as the basis of our response. We must also learn from international experience. There are already countries in Europe and beyond where restrictions are being lifted. We will use the next few weeks to learn from what works and what might not work elsewhere in the world.

Llywydd, finally, we will also use that period to plan for Wales's future beyond coronavirus by drawing in expertise and experience from outside Government. We will establish a group of people from inside Wales and beyond to challenge our thinking, to contribute new ideas, and so to help us plan for recovery. We have put our framework for doing so in place and I look forward to discussing that plan and that path to the future with the Senedd in the weeks ahead.

Lywydd, mae’r coronafeirws yn argyfwng iechyd cyhoeddus yn ogystal ag argyfwng economaidd. Bydd y Gweinidogion sy’n bennaf gyfrifol am y ddau faes portffolio hyn yn gwneud datganiadau y prynhawn yma am y camau y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu cymryd i ymateb i’r feirws. Ychydig iawn o feysydd mewn bywyd cyhoeddus sydd heb gael eu heffeithio gan y coronafeirws, a’r prynhawn yma, byddaf yn canolbwyntio ar y mesurau rydym yn eu cymryd ar draws portffolios eraill.

Lywydd, effeithiwyd ar sawl agwedd ar y maes tai, o bryderon am bobl heb gartrefi i fyw ynddynt, i bobl sy'n teithio i Gymru i'w hail gartrefi. Ers i'r Senedd gyfarfod ddiwethaf, rydym wedi darparu cyngor cynhwysfawr am y gefnogaeth sydd ar gael i denantiaid yng Nghymru, gan gynnwys gwybodaeth am fudd-daliadau, help gyda rhent, talu biliau a dyledion. Rydym wedi darparu gwybodaeth i landlordiaid ac asiantau yn y sector rhentu preifat ac arweiniad i awdurdodau lleol ynglŷn â sut y gallant barhau i orfodi safonau mewn eiddo rhent i gadw pobl yn ddiogel.

Rydym yn parhau i gael adroddiadau wythnosol gan brif gwnstabliaid ledled Cymru ar orfodi rheoliadau. Gadewch imi ddweud yn glir unwaith eto: nid yw teithio i ail gartref yn daith hanfodol, ac mae'r heddlu yng Nghymru yn atal pobl rhag ceisio gwneud hynny, a byddant yn parhau i wneud hynny.

Mewn gofal cymdeithasol, rydym wedi darparu £40 miliwn ychwanegol i gynorthwyo gwasanaethau gofal cymdeithasol i oedolion gyda’r costau uwch y mae'r sector yn eu hwynebu. Daw'r cyllid hwn yn uniongyrchol o'n cyllideb ein hunain, ac mae'n rhan o'r gronfa ymladd gwerth £1.1 biliwn rydym wedi'i chreu i gynorthwyo gwasanaethau cyhoeddus i ymateb i’r coronafeirws.

Gwn fod llawer o Aelodau wedi mynegi pryderon am bobl sydd wedi dewis taliadau uniongyrchol ac sy'n cyflogi eu cynorthwywyr personol eu hunain, ac ers i'r Senedd gyfarfod ddiwethaf, rydym wedi darparu gwybodaeth benodol i bobl yn y sefyllfa honno. Mae Gofal Cymdeithasol Cymru wedi lansio cerdyn ar gyfer yr holl weithwyr gofal cymdeithasol i helpu i'w nodi fel gweithwyr gofal hanfodol, ac felly i gael mynediad at yr help a'r cymorth sydd ar gael iddynt.

Lywydd, mae’r feirws wedi cael effaith aruthrol ar addysg a gofal plant. Rydym wedi cyhoeddi canllawiau i weithwyr gofal hanfodol a rhieni plant agored i niwed ynglŷn â sut y gallant gael y cymorth sydd ei angen arnynt yn yr amgylchiadau presennol, ac rydym yn gweithredu’r cynnig gofal plant estynedig i blant gweithwyr allweddol a gyhoeddwyd gan Julie Morgan ar 6 Ebrill. I lawer o bobl ifanc, mae hon yn adeg o drallod a phryder. Mae'r Gweinidog Addysg, Kirsty Williams, wedi cyhoeddi £1.25 miliwn o gyllid ychwanegol i ddarparu cymorth iechyd meddwl ychwanegol i blant, gan helpu gwasanaethau cwnsela mewn ysgolion i ymdopi â'r cynnydd a ragwelir yn y galw. Mae'r Gweinidog hefyd wedi cadarnhau y bydd diwrnod canlyniadau Safon Uwch a Safon UG yn cael ei gynnal fel y trefnwyd yn wreiddiol ar 13 Awst, ac ar 20 Awst ar gyfer TGAU—yr un dyddiadau, felly, â Gogledd Iwerddon a Lloegr.

Ddoe, Lywydd, Cymru oedd cenedl gyntaf y DU i gadarnhau cyllid ychwanegol i warantu prydau ysgol am ddim i blant yn ystod y pandemig. Bydd £33 miliwn o gymorth ychwanegol yn cael ei ddarparu i awdurdodau lleol yn y maes hanfodol hwn.

Bythefnos yn ôl, atebodd Gweinidog yr Amgylchedd, Ynni a Materion Gwledig, Lesley Griffiths, gwestiynau yn y Senedd. Mae hi wedi parhau i gyfarfod â chynrychiolwyr diwydiant o sectorau ffermio, pysgota, coedwigaeth, amgylchedd a bwyd a diod Cymru i drafod eu heriau penodol. Mae grant newydd ar gael bellach i gynorthwyo busnesau pysgota i dalu'r costau sefydlog sy'n gysylltiedig â bod yn berchen ar gwch pysgota, ac mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi lansio gwasanaeth ar-lein pwrpasol i baru cyflogwyr â phobl sy'n chwilio am waith yn y sector amaethyddol, y sector tir neu'r sector milfeddygol. Bydd y gwasanaeth hwnnw'n helpu i lenwi swyddi gwag dros y misoedd nesaf, gan fynd i'r afael â phrinder gweithwyr o ganlyniad i’r feirws.

Lywydd, hoffwn gloi drwy edrych tua'r dyfodol. Ddydd Iau, cytunodd pedair Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig fod yn rhaid i'r cyfyngiadau aros gartref barhau am dair wythnos arall fan lleiaf. Nid nawr yw'r amser i afradu'r holl ymdrechion rydym wedi'u gwneud, yn enwedig gan fod yna arwyddion fod rhai ohonynt yn dechrau dwyn ffrwyth. Ond mae'n bwysig iawn pwysleisio bod bygythiad y coronafeirws ymhell o fod ar ben. Yn anffodus, bydd bywydau’n dal i gael eu colli yn y dyddiau i ddod, a gwn y bydd pob Aelod yn awyddus i gymryd eiliad i gofio’r 600 a mwy o bobl nad ydynt gyda ni mwyach, a’r galar a’r trallod y mae hyn yn parhau i’w achosi i’r rheini sydd agosaf atynt.

Nawr, ni wneir unrhyw benderfyniad i leddfu cyfyngiadau tan y bydd y dystiolaeth feddygol a gwyddonol yn glir fod yr amser yn iawn i wneud hynny. Bydd y broses yng Nghymru'n ofalus, yn bwyllog ac yn raddol. Ni ellir dychwelyd yn syth i'r ffordd o fyw roeddem yn ei mwynhau cyn i'r pandemig ddechrau. A Lywydd, pan ymwelais â’r Senedd am y tro cyntaf o dan ein trefniadau newydd, roeddem yn dal i wynebu'r pryder realistig y gallai lledaeniad y coronafeirws gyflymu yng Nghymru i’r graddau lle gallai ein GIG fod wedi cael ei orlethu. Mae’r ffaith nad yw hynny wedi digwydd yn deyrnged i'r gwaith aruthrol a wnaed mewn cyfnod mor fyr i ehangu capasiti’r gwasanaeth a'r ymdrechion y mae dinasyddion Cymru wedi'u gwneud i leihau lledaeniad y feirws yn y gymuned. Heddiw, mae nifer y cleifion yn ysbytai Cymru oherwydd y coronafeirws wedi sefydlogi ac mae nifer y derbyniadau newydd yn gostwng. Mae dros hanner ein capasiti gofal critigol estynedig ar gael o hyd. Mae mwy na 3,000 o welyau ysbyty acíwt yn yr un sefyllfa, ac mae'r ddau ffigur wedi gwella eto dros yr ychydig ddyddiau diwethaf. Oherwydd y platfform hwnnw a grëwyd, gallwn ddefnyddio'r wythnosau nesaf i baratoi; i gytuno ar set gyffredin o fesurau gwrthrychol i nodi'r pwynt lle mae'n ddiogel i ddechrau codi’r cyfyngiadau. Bydd y mesurau hyn yn dweud wrthym pryd y gallwn symud ymlaen o'r sefyllfa bresennol.

Bydd risg y bydd y feirws yn dechrau lledaenu eto. Felly, mae angen inni osod mesurau iechyd y cyhoedd cryf i gadw llygad ar y sefyllfa, fel y gallwn nodi unrhyw achosion lleol yn gyflym ac ymateb yn effeithiol. Yng Nghymru, rydym wedi cynnal gwasanaeth iechyd cyhoeddus cenedlaethol gyda phresenoldeb lleol cryf, ac mae’n rhaid inni ddefnyddio hyn fel sail i'n hymateb. Mae’n rhaid inni ddysgu hefyd o brofiad rhyngwladol. Mae rhai gwledydd yn Ewrop a thu hwnt eisoes yn codi cyfyngiadau. Byddwn yn defnyddio'r wythnosau nesaf i ddysgu o'r hyn sy'n gweithio a'r hyn nad yw’n gweithio mewn rhannau eraill o'r byd.

Lywydd, yn olaf, byddwn hefyd yn defnyddio'r cyfnod hwnnw i gynllunio ar gyfer dyfodol Cymru y tu hwnt i’r coronafeirws drwy gynnwys arbenigedd a phrofiad o'r tu allan i'r Llywodraeth. Byddwn yn sefydlu grŵp o bobl o Gymru a thu hwnt i herio ein syniadau, i gyfrannu syniadau newydd, ac felly i'n helpu i gynllunio ar gyfer adfer. Rydym wedi rhoi ein fframwaith ar gyfer gwneud hynny ar waith ac edrychaf ymlaen at drafod y cynllun hwnnw a'r llwybr hwnnw tua’r dyfodol gyda'r Senedd dros yr wythnosau i ddod.


Before I call on the leader of the opposition, just to say that I'm aware that a Member wishes to raise a point of order. I'll take all points of order at the end of the statements, so no visual aids are required. Paul Davies.

Cyn i mi alw ar arweinydd yr wrthblaid, hoffwn ddweud fy mod yn ymwybodol fod Aelod yn dymuno codi pwynt o drefn. Byddaf yn cymryd pob pwynt o drefn ar ddiwedd y datganiadau, felly nid oes angen cymhorthion gweledol. Paul Davies.

Thank you, Llywydd. Can I thank the First Minister for his statement this afternoon? And can I echo your comments, First Minister, and convey my condolences to those families who have lost loved ones during this pandemic?

As the COVID-19 pandemic continues to be felt by families, communities and businesses across the country, it is vital that no stone is left unturned in identifying the threat and treating those who have been affected as soon as possible. The Welsh Government's announcement of a rapid review into Wales's testing system is a crucial step forward, not only to see where problems are arising in terms of administering the tests, but also in terms of making the process around it far more efficient. I appreciate that the health Minister will be making a statement on some of these issues later, but you are, of course, responsible for the overall Government strategy, therefore can you tell us what initial findings have been made from the Welsh Government's rapid review and what sort of timescales have been put in place to see any new changes to the system? We know that the target of 5,000 tests a day was not met by mid April, and it's very clear that nowhere near 9,000 tests will be taking place by the end of this month as originally promised. In fact, we know that on some days, far less than 1,000 tests a day have been carried out. So, to be blunt, First Minister, why are so few tests actually taking place and why has the Welsh Government failed to meet its targets, because it's important our key front-line workers are tested as quickly as possible in order to keep them safe? It's clear that there is capacity in the system that's just not being used to test key front-line workers, and community testing centres and drive-in centres across Wales are still not all fully operating. Therefore, can you tell us when you anticipate the opening of all testing centres for key workers so that we can at least get an idea of when testing will be taking place in all parts of Wales?

Now, at the start of this pandemic, I raised the importance of reaching those living and working in social care settings, and you made reference to this in your statement today, and it is regrettable that more hasn't been done earlier to tackle the impact of coronavirus in care homes across Wales. At the time, you said that there was a particular challenge in Wales, because the sector is dominated by small owners of one or two residential care homes, and so getting messages out to people is a bigger challenge when you have large numbers of people involved and people who may not necessarily be as attuned to dealing with demands as large companies, who are well set up and equipped to do this. Given that care home residents are at a heightened risk of serious complications from the virus and we are now seeing more reported cases in care homes, what specific action is the Welsh Government now taking to expedite support for those living and indeed working in the sector?

First Minister, the health Minister made clear yesterday that securing enough PPE is a bigger priority than the challenges on coronavirus testing. Now, you'll be aware that the Royal College of Nursing in Wales and indeed others are calling on the Welsh Government to commit to safeguarding supplies of PPE, as well as calling for the Government not to weaken the guidance to disguise shortages, and also to conduct a rapid audit across health boards to ensure that PPE is being distributed effectively to all care settings. It is unacceptable that 74 per cent of nursing staff have raised concerns about PPE and that over half of nursing staff have felt pressured to care for a patient without adequate protection. Therefore, could you confirm that the Welsh Government will now undertake a rapid audit of PPE across health boards in Wales, as well as confirm what action is being urgently taken to ensure that key workers in Wales all have access to the PPE that they need?

Diolch yn fawr, Lywydd. A gaf fi ddiolch i'r Prif Weinidog am ei ddatganiad y prynhawn yma? Ac a gaf fi adleisio eich sylwadau, Brif Weinidog, a chydymdeimlo â'r teuluoedd sydd wedi colli anwyliaid yn ystod y pandemig hwn?

Wrth i bandemig COVID-19 barhau i effeithio ar deuluoedd, cymunedau a busnesau ledled y wlad, mae'n hanfodol ein bod yn gwneud ein gorau glas i nodi'r bygythiad a thrin y rheini yr effeithiwyd arnynt cyn gynted â phosibl. Mae cyhoeddiad Llywodraeth Cymru ynghylch adolygiad cyflym o system brofi Cymru yn gam hanfodol ymlaen, nid yn unig er mwyn gweld lle mae problemau'n codi gyda chynnal y profion, ond hefyd i sicrhau bod y broses o wneud hynny’n fwy effeithlon o lawer. Rwy'n sylweddoli y bydd y Gweinidog iechyd yn gwneud datganiad ar rai o'r materion hyn maes o law, ond chi, wrth gwrs, sy'n gyfrifol am strategaeth gyffredinol y Llywodraeth, felly a allwch chi ddweud wrthym pa ganfyddiadau cychwynnol a wnaed gan adolygiad cyflym Llywodraeth Cymru a pha fath o amserlenni a roddwyd ar waith i wneud unrhyw newidiadau newydd i'r system? Gwyddom na chyrhaeddwyd y targed o 5,000 o brofion y dydd erbyn canol mis Ebrill, ac mae'n amlwg iawn na fydd yn agos at 9,000 o brofion yn cael eu cynnal erbyn diwedd y mis hwn fel yr addawyd yn wreiddiol. Mewn gwirionedd, gwyddom fod llawer llai na 1,000 o brofion y dydd wedi'u cynnal ar rai dyddiau. Felly, a bod yn ddi-flewyn-ar-dafod, Brif Weinidog, pam fod cyn lleied o brofion yn cael eu cynnal a pham fod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi methu cyrraedd ei thargedau, gan ei bod yn bwysig fod ein gweithwyr allweddol ar y rheng flaen yn cael eu profi cyn gynted â phosibl er mwyn eu cadw'n ddiogel? Mae'n amlwg fod capasiti yn y system nad yw'n cael ei ddefnyddio i brofi gweithwyr allweddol ar y rheng flaen ac nad yw canolfannau profi cymunedol a chanolfannau gyrru i mewn ledled Cymru yn gweithredu'n llawn o hyd. Felly, a allwch ddweud wrthym pryd rydych yn rhagweld y bydd pob canolfan brofi ar gyfer gweithwyr allweddol ar agor fel y gallwn gael syniad o leiaf ynglŷn â phryd y bydd profion yn cael eu cynnal ym mhob rhan o Gymru?

Nawr, ar ddechrau'r pandemig hwn, codais bwysigrwydd cyrraedd y rheini sy'n byw ac yn gweithio mewn lleoliadau gofal cymdeithasol ac fe gyfeirioch chi at hyn yn eich datganiad heddiw, ac mae'n drueni na wnaed mwy yn gynharach i fynd i'r afael ag effaith coronafeirws mewn cartrefi gofal ledled Cymru. Ar y pryd, fe ddywedoch chi fod her benodol yng Nghymru, gan fod y sector yn cynnwys cymaint o bobl sy’n berchen ar un neu ddau o gartrefi gofal preswyl yn unig, ac felly mae sicrhau bod negeseuon yn cyrraedd pobl yn fwy o her pan fydd gennych nifer fawr o bobl, a phobl nad ydynt o reidrwydd mor gyfarwydd ag ymdrin â gofynion â'r cwmnïau mawr, sydd wedi hen ymsefydlu a chanddynt yr adnoddau i wneud hyn. O ystyried bod preswylwyr cartrefi gofal mewn mwy o berygl o wynebu cymhlethdodau difrifol yn sgil y feirws, ac rydym bellach yn gweld mwy o achosion yn cael eu cofnodi mewn cartrefi gofal, pa gamau penodol y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu cymryd yn awr i hwyluso cymorth i'r rheini sy'n byw, ac yn wir, yn gweithio yn y sector?

Brif Weinidog, nododd y Gweinidog iechyd yn glir ddoe fod sicrhau digon o gyfarpar diogelu personol yn fwy o flaenoriaeth na heriau profi am y coronafeirws. Nawr, fe fyddwch yn gwybod bod Coleg Nyrsio Brenhinol Cymru, ac eraill yn wir, yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i ymrwymo i ddiogelu cyflenwadau o gyfarpar diogelu personol yn ogystal â galw ar y Llywodraeth i beidio â gwanhau'r canllawiau er mwyn cuddio prinder, ac i gynnal archwiliad cyflym ar draws y byrddau iechyd i sicrhau bod cyfarpar diogelu personol yn cael ei ddosbarthu'n effeithiol i bob lleoliad gofal. Mae'n annerbyniol fod 74 y cant o staff nyrsio wedi mynegi pryderon am gyfarpar diogelu personol a bod dros hanner y staff nyrsio wedi teimlo pwysau i ofalu am glaf heb amddiffyniadau digonol. Felly, a allwch gadarnhau y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru nawr yn cynnal archwiliad cyflym o gyfarpar diogelu personol yn awr ar draws y byrddau iechyd yng Nghymru, yn ogystal â chadarnhau pa gamau brys sy'n cael eu cymryd i sicrhau bod gan weithwyr allweddol yng Nghymru fynediad at y cyfarpar diogelu personol sydd ei angen arnynt?


Llywydd, I thank Paul Davies for those questions. Let me be clear that testing is taking place in all parts of Wales. Over 20,000 tests have been carried out in Wales during the coronavirus crisis. Forty per cent of those tests have been made available to front-line healthcare staff. There is more that needs to be done to simplify the process from which social care staff in particular can be identified and then offered testing at the different centres that we have, and that's one of the key conclusions of the rapid review that Paul Davies referred to. We need to simplify that process while still safeguarding essential safety aspects of the system. It is really important that the right person does turn up at the right time in the right place for the right test. It sounds easier than it is to get all of those things lined up when you have a very scattered population, all of whom have to be put through a certain level of assurance. But we did hear from the head of the Welsh Local Government Association today—some of us—that some of the immediate steps that have been taken are accelerating their ability to put forward social care staff for testing, and that more tests are being done as a result. The rapid review proposed that we should report weekly on the number of tests available, the number of tests being taken out, and the steps that are in place to increase that further week by week, and that's what we will be doing. There will be more tests available by the end of this week than there were at the end of last week, and I believe that we will have more people taking up those tests as we simplify the referral process.

Paul Davies, Llywydd, I thought set out very well some of the challenges that there are there in getting information and other aspects to the care home sector, given its nature here in Wales. But we are working closely with Care Forum Wales; I want to again just express my thanks to them for everything they are doing to strengthen their ability to get information to that front line. There is absolutely no suggestion anywhere that we are weakening the guidance. We were part of the rapid review of guidance that the UK Government led, which has resulted in an extended number of people in the care sector particularly becoming entitled to PPE, and we are observing and implementing that guidance here in Wales. As a result of all of that, we will have provided 48 million pieces of PPE from stores here in Wales—40 per cent of our pandemic store supplies going to social care. The struggle we have is to replenish those stocks in a globally competitive market. We know already where our stocks are and how much we have in reserve. We carry out regular exercises to make sure that we get the most up-to-date reports from across the system about stores that are being held, or different items in different parts of Wales. And as we draw down supplies that come into Wales from outside, we act as quickly as we can to make sure that those stores are dispersed to the different centres from which they are then onwardly transmitted to the 640 GP practices we have in Wales, the 715 pharmacies that we have in Wales, and the thousand or so care homes we have in Wales. Members will see that this is a huge logistical exercise and one that is taking an enormous amount of time, effort and commitment from dedicated people working in the health service and in local government right across Wales.

Lywydd, diolch i Paul Davies am ei gwestiynau. Gadewch imi ddweud yn glir fod profion yn cael eu cynnal ym mhob rhan o Gymru. Mae dros 20,000 o brofion wedi'u cynnal yng Nghymru yn ystod argyfwng y coronafeirws. Mae 40 y cant o'r profion hynny ar gael i staff gofal iechyd ar y rheng flaen. Mae angen gwneud mwy i symleiddio'r broses o nodi staff gofal cymdeithasol yn benodol a chynnig profion iddynt wedyn yn y gwahanol ganolfannau sydd gennym, a dyna un o gasgliadau allweddol yr adolygiad cyflym y cyfeiriodd Paul Davies ato. Mae angen inni symleiddio'r broses honno gan barhau i ddiogelu agweddau diogelwch hanfodol y system. Mae'n bwysig iawn fod yr unigolyn iawn yno ar yr adeg iawn yn y lle iawn ar gyfer y prawf iawn. Mae'n haws dweud na gwneud yr holl bethau hynny pan fo gennych boblogaeth wasgaredig iawn, ac angen rhoi lefel benodol o sicrwydd i bawb ohonynt. Ond clywsom gan bennaeth Cymdeithas Llywodraeth Leol Cymru heddiw—rhai ohonom—fod rhai o'r camau a gymerwyd ar unwaith yn cyflymu eu gallu i brofi staff gofal cymdeithasol, a bod mwy o brofion yn cael eu cynnal o ganlyniad i hynny. Cynigiodd yr adolygiad cyflym y dylem adrodd yn wythnosol ar nifer y profion sydd ar gael, nifer y profion sy'n cael eu cynnal, a'r camau sydd ar waith i gynyddu hynny bob wythnos, a dyna fyddwn ni'n ei wneud. Bydd mwy o brofion ar gael erbyn diwedd yr wythnos hon nag ar ddiwedd yr wythnos ddiwethaf, a chredaf y bydd mwy o bobl yn cael y profion hynny wrth inni symleiddio'r broses atgyfeirio.

Lywydd, credaf i Paul Davies roi disgrifiad da iawn o rai o'r heriau mewn perthynas â chyfleu gwybodaeth ac agweddau eraill i'r sector cartrefi gofal, o ystyried ei natur yma yng Nghymru. Ond rydym yn gweithio'n agos gyda Fforwm Gofal Cymru; unwaith eto, hoffwn ddiolch iddynt am bopeth y maent yn ei wneud i gryfhau eu gallu i sicrhau bod gwybodaeth yn cyrraedd y rheng flaen honno. Nid oes unrhyw awgrym yn unman ein bod yn gwanhau'r canllawiau. Roeddem yn rhan o’r adolygiad cyflym o ganllawiau dan arweiniad Llywodraeth y DU sydd wedi arwain at roi hawl i nifer fwy o bobl yn y sector gofal yn arbennig i gael cyfarpar diogelu personol, ac rydym yn cydymffurfio â’r canllawiau hynny ac yn eu gweithredu yma yng Nghymru. O ganlyniad i hynny, byddwn wedi darparu 48 miliwn eitem o gyfarpar diogelu personol o storfeydd yma yng Nghymru—gyda 40 y cant o gyflenwadau ein storfeydd pandemig yn mynd i ofal cymdeithasol. Y frwydr sydd gennym yw ailgyflenwi'r stociau hynny mewn marchnad sy'n gystadleuol yn fyd-eang. Gwyddom eisoes ble mae ein stociau a faint sydd gennym wrth gefn. Rydym yn cynnal ymarferion rheolaidd i sicrhau ein bod yn cael yr adroddiadau diweddaraf o bob rhan o'r system am y storfeydd a gedwir, neu wahanol eitemau mewn gwahanol rannau o Gymru. Wrth inni ddefnyddio cyflenwadau a ddaw i Gymru o'r tu allan, rydym yn gweithredu mor gyflym ag y gallwn i sicrhau bod y storfeydd hynny'n cael eu gwasgaru i'r gwahanol ganolfannau, a'u bod wedyn yn cael eu trosglwyddo ymlaen i'r 640 practis meddyg teulu sydd gennym yng Nghymru, y 715 o fferyllfeydd sydd gennym yng Nghymru, yr oddeutu 1,000 o gartrefi gofal sydd gennym yng Nghymru. Bydd yr Aelodau'n gweld bod hwn yn ymarfer logistaidd enfawr ac yn un sy'n cymryd cryn dipyn o amser, ymdrech ac ymrwymiad gan bobl ymroddedig sy'n gweithio yn y gwasanaeth iechyd ac mewn llywodraeth leol ledled Cymru.


Thank you for those responses, First Minister. As you've said in your statement today, whilst the coronavirus pandemic is an enormous global health challenge, it's also a significant economic challenge too. The financial support that has been available to most sectors has been generous and I'm sure it's greatly received by those recipients, however there are sectors like farming and tourism that feel left behind because support is either unavailable, inaccessible, or it simply just doesn't cover the needs of those working in those sectors. So, given that the Welsh farming industry is integral to Wales's economy, culture and, indeed, identity, what urgent steps are the Welsh Government taking to address the very real crisis faced by Welsh farmers, particularly dairy farmers, at this time, in order to protect the sustainability of Welsh farming for the future? Perhaps you could send a clear statement today to Welsh farmers, First Minister, by reinforcing the message that they are also key workers, and allowing them to access funding under the economic resilience fund.

Last week, the Welsh Government restricted the eligibility of those who could claim £10,000 in grant funding within the tourism sector. Whilst I understand that some second-home owners were taking advantage of the Welsh Government's previous flexibility, the revised guidance now means that many genuine small self-catering tourist operators across Wales may no longer be able to access this funding. First Minister, will you reconsider the position taken on this specific issue, so that small-scale self-catering tourist operators are able to receive support during this period, given the important role that they play in supporting the Welsh tourist industry?

Now, I appreciate that the rate of business applications has been unprecedented, and whilst we all welcome any support packages that are made available in Wales, I think there's some more work needed to fine-tune some of the packages on offer. For example, the Welsh fishing industry has told me that the support for them—and you make reference to this in your statement today—doesn't quite cover their costs, and that the eligibility for further support needs to be made fairer. Road haulage businesses, which still have to pay business rates, have made it clear that more needs to be done to support the distribution industry, which, as you know, is critical at this time in ensuring vital goods are able to be transported.

And, finally, tourism businesses are telling me that they feel the seasonality of their business is not being taken into account when designing some of the support schemes in place, and so they're falling between the gaps in accessing support because their business model doesn't quite fit the Government's assessment criteria. Therefore, what fine-tuning is the Welsh Government doing to better understand the diverse range of businesses in Wales, to ensure that each of the Government's business support packages is reaching those who actually need it?

Finally, can you tell us what support is being made available to those businesses that either aren't value added tax registered because their turnover isn't that big, are sole traders, or are operating small limited companies, because it seems as though these kinds of microbusinesses have not been considered when designing business support packages?

Diolch am eich ymatebion, Brif Weinidog. Fel y dywedoch chi yn eich datganiad heddiw, er bod pandemig y coronafeirws yn her iechyd enfawr yn fyd-eang, mae’n her economaidd sylweddol hefyd. Mae'r gefnogaeth ariannol a roddwyd i’r rhan fwyaf o sectorau wedi bod yn hael, ac rwy'n siŵr fod y rhai sydd wedi'i derbyn wedi’i chroesawu, ond serch hynny, mae sectorau fel ffermio a thwristiaeth yn teimlo eu bod wedi’u gadael ar ôl naill ai am nad yw'r gefnogaeth ar gael, am ei bod yn anhygyrch, neu'n syml am nad yw'n diwallu anghenion y rheini sy'n gweithio yn y sectorau hynny. Felly, o gofio bod diwydiant ffermio Cymru’n rhan annatod o economi, diwylliant, ac yn wir, hunaniaeth Cymru, pa gamau brys y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu cymryd i fynd i’r afael â’r argyfwng real iawn y mae ffermwyr Cymru'n ei wynebu ar hyn o bryd, yn enwedig ffermwyr llaeth, er mwyn diogelu cynaliadwyedd ffermio Cymru at y dyfodol? Efallai y gallech roi datganiad clir heddiw i ffermwyr Cymru, Brif Weinidog, drwy atgyfnerthu’r neges eu bod hwythau’n weithwyr allweddol hefyd, a chaniatáu iddynt gael mynediad at gyllid o dan y gronfa cadernid economaidd.

Yr wythnos diwethaf, cyfyngodd Llywodraeth Cymru ar gymhwystra’r rheini a allai hawlio £10,000 o gyllid grant yn y sector twristiaeth. Er fy mod yn deall bod rhai perchnogion ail gartrefi wedi manteisio ar hyblygrwydd blaenorol Llywodraeth Cymru, mae'r canllawiau diwygiedig bellach yn golygu efallai na fydd llawer o weithredwyr twristiaeth llety hunanddarpar bach dilys ledled Cymru yn gallu cael mynediad at y cyllid hwn mwyach. Brif Weinidog, a wnewch chi ailystyried eich safbwynt ar y mater penodol hwn, fel bod gweithredwyr twristiaeth llety hunanddarpar ar raddfa fach yn gallu cael cymorth yn ystod y cyfnod hwn, o ystyried y rôl bwysig y maent yn ei chwarae yn cefnogi diwydiant twristiaeth Cymru?

Nawr, rwy'n derbyn bod cyfradd y ceisiadau busnes wedi bod yn ddigynsail, ac er bod pob un ohonom yn croesawu unrhyw becynnau cymorth a ddarperir yng Nghymru, credaf fod angen gwneud mwy o waith i fireinio rhai o'r pecynnau sydd ar gael. Er enghraifft, mae diwydiant pysgota Cymru wedi dweud wrthyf nad yw'r gefnogaeth iddynt hwy—ac fe gyfeirioch chi at hyn yn eich datganiad heddiw—yn ddigon i dalu eu holl gostau, a bod angen gwneud y cymhwystra i gael cymorth pellach yn decach. Mae busnesau cludo nwyddau ar lorïau, sy'n dal i orfod talu ardrethi busnes, wedi dweud yn glir fod angen gwneud mwy i gefnogi'r diwydiant dosbarthu, sydd, fel y gwyddoch, yn hanfodol ar hyn o bryd er mwyn sicrhau bod modd cludo nwyddau hanfodol.

Ac yn olaf, mae busnesau twristiaeth yn dweud wrthyf eu bod yn teimlo nad yw natur dymhorol eu busnes yn cael ei ystyried wrth lunio rhai o'r cynlluniau cymorth sydd ar waith, ac felly maent yn cwympo i'r bylchau wrth geisio cael mynediad at gymorth am nad yw eu model busnes yn cyd-fynd yn union â meini prawf asesu'r Llywodraeth. Felly, pa waith mireinio y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei wneud i gael gwell dealltwriaeth o’r ystod amrywiol o fusnesau yng Nghymru, er mwyn sicrhau bod pob un o becynnau cymorth busnes y Llywodraeth yn cyrraedd y rheini sydd eu hangen mewn gwirionedd?

Yn olaf, a allwch ddweud wrthym pa gymorth sy'n cael ei ddarparu i fusnesau sydd naill ai heb gofrestru at ddibenion treth ar werth am nad yw eu trosiant mor fawr â hynny, neu fusnesau sy'n unig fasnachwyr, neu'n gweithredu cwmnïau cyfyngedig bach, gan yr ymddengys nad yw’r mathau hyn o ficrofusnesau wedi cael eu hystyried wrth lunio pecynnau cymorth busnes?


Llywydd, the leader of the opposition has mentioned dairy farming, fishing, tourism, sole traders—I think there was another one in there too. I think all he is doing is illustrating the astonishing economic challenge that there is as a result of coronavirus. Haulage, I'm sorry, was another that he mentioned. All of those sectors, I know, are facing real challenges, and we could've added to that list many times over, I'm sure.

The Welsh Government's resources are limited. We are squeezing everything we can out of our existing budgets. We are passing on every penny of additional help that comes our way through the UK Government, and we are doing our best to design the additional help that we can provide in a way that is complementary to the help that the UK Government's schemes are offering to businesses here in Wales.

I'm, of course, very happy to put on record our recognition of everything that is being done by the farming community here in Wales and to recognise the particular challenges that dairy farmers are facing. Lesley Griffiths welcomed, on Friday of last week, the temporary lifting of some competition laws in the dairy industry to allow for a more planned way in which the milk that is being produced in the dairy industry can be used for places where milk is needed. In the meantime, we've produced guidance for dairy farmers in Wales, helping them to make sure that if, as a last resort, they have to dispense with the milk that they have without it going into the food chain, they can do that in the safest way possible.

As for the changes we have made to self-catering accommodation, I'm perfectly happy to say that we'll keep it under review, because it was a review of the evidence that led to Julie James announcing the changes that we have made. What the changes mean is that a tourist business, even a small-scale one, has to demonstrate that it is letting property for 140 days in a year. I really don't think that if that is the income that you are depending upon, it is unreasonable for you to show that for 140 days of the year that property is being occupied for tourism purposes, and then you have to demonstrate that the income you get represents a reasonable proportion of your total income.

The anxiety was—and I know Paul Davies will know this, because it's been raised by local authorities in south-west and north-west Wales—that a lot of public money was at risk of going into the pockets of people for whom this is a small and supplementary part of their income, not the income that they rely on to make their business a success. So, I think we have done the right thing, but I'm very happy to say that we will keep the evidence under review. And if fine-tuning is required, then we will return to that, and that is true of a number of the other things that Paul Davies mentioned. The fishing industry, for example—we've announced a scheme to make sure we can assist our fishing industry in Wales. If it needs to be fine-tuned, we'll need the evidence and we will look at that.

I'm very alert to the points that the leader of the opposition made about tourism in Wales. I know we've rehearsed it here before that the pattern in the tourism industry is that people invest in the winter and recoup those costs and make their businesses successful in the summer, and, as the weeks go by, that is putting a very particular strain on that business model. We are working hard alongside the tourism industry to try to do what we can to help.

On microbusinesses and the other points that Paul Davies ended with, in many ways those are gaps in the UK Government's schemes, and they have the major responsibilities here. We continue to engage with UK Ministers, and the Chancellor has shown the willingness to introduce new schemes and new measures where gaps in the original provision have emerged. Sole traders, microbusinesses: they remain an area where we need the UK Government to step in and offer the support that is needed.

Lywydd, mae arweinydd yr wrthblaid wedi sôn am ffermio llaeth, pysgota, twristiaeth, unig fasnachwyr—credaf fod un arall yno hefyd. Credaf mai'r unig beth y mae'n ei wneud yw dangos yr her economaidd ryfeddol y mae coronafeirws yn ei chreu. Roedd cludo nwyddau, mae'n ddrwg gennyf, yn un arall y soniodd amdano. Gwn fod pob un o'r sectorau hynny’n wynebu heriau go iawn, ac rwy’n siŵr y gallem fod wedi ychwanegu sawl un arall at y rhestr honno.

Mae adnoddau Llywodraeth Cymru yn gyfyngedig. Rydym yn gwasgu popeth y gallwn o'n cyllidebau presennol. Rydym yn trosglwyddo pob ceiniog o gymorth ychwanegol a ddaw i ni gan Lywodraeth y DU, ac rydym yn gwneud ein gorau i lunio'r cymorth ychwanegol y gallwn ei ddarparu mewn ffordd sy'n ategu'r cymorth y mae cynlluniau Llywodraeth y DU yn ei gynnig i fusnesau yma yng Nghymru.

Rwy'n fwy na pharod, wrth gwrs, i gofnodi ein bod yn cydnabod popeth a wneir gan y gymuned ffermio yma yng Nghymru ac yn cydnabod yr heriau penodol y mae ffermwyr llaeth yn eu hwynebu. Ddydd Gwener diwethaf, croesawodd Lesley Griffiths y ffaith bod rhai deddfau cystadleuaeth yn y diwydiant llaeth wedi eu diddymu dros dro i ganiatáu i’r llaeth sy'n cael ei gynhyrchu yn y diwydiant llaeth gael ei ddefnyddio mewn ffordd fwy cynlluniedig ar gyfer y lleoedd lle mae angen llaeth. Yn y cyfamser, rydym wedi cynhyrchu canllawiau i ffermwyr llaeth yng Nghymru i'w helpu i sicrhau, os bydd yn rhaid iddynt, fel dewis olaf, gael gwared ar y llaeth sydd ganddynt heb iddo fynd i'r gadwyn fwyd, y gallant wneud hynny yn y ffordd fwyaf diogel sy'n bosibl.

O ran y newidiadau rydym wedi'u gwneud i lety hunanddarpar, rwy'n fwy na pharod i ddweud y byddwn yn parhau i adolygu hynny, gan mai adolygiad o'r dystiolaeth a arweiniodd at gyhoeddiad Julie James ynglŷn â'r newidiadau a wnaethom. Yr hyn y mae'r newidiadau yn ei olygu yw bod yn rhaid i fusnes twristiaeth, hyd yn oed un bach, ddangos ei fod yn gosod eiddo am 140 diwrnod o’r flwyddyn. Os mai dyna’r incwm rydych yn dibynnu arno, ni chredaf ei bod yn afresymol i chi ddangos bod eiddo'n cael ei feddiannu at ddibenion twristiaeth am 140 diwrnod o'r flwyddyn, ac yna mae'n rhaid i chi ddangos bod yr incwm a gewch yn gyfran resymol o gyfanswm eich incwm.

Y pryder oedd—a gwn y bydd Paul Davies yn gwybod hyn, gan ei fod yn rhywbeth a godwyd gan awdurdodau lleol yn ne-orllewin a gogledd-orllewin Cymru—fod perygl y byddai llawer o arian cyhoeddus yn mynd i bocedi'r bobl y mae hyn yn rhan fach ac atodol o'u hincwm, nid yr incwm y maent yn dibynnu arno i sicrhau bod eu busnes yn llwyddiant. Felly, credaf ein bod wedi gwneud y peth iawn, ond rwy'n fwy na pharod i ddweud y byddwn yn parhau i adolygu’r dystiolaeth. Ac os oes angen mireinio, byddwn yn dychwelyd at hynny, ac mae hynny'n wir am nifer o'r pethau eraill y soniodd Paul Davies amdanynt. Y diwydiant pysgota, er enghraifft—rydym wedi cyhoeddi cynllun i sicrhau y gallwn gynorthwyo ein diwydiant pysgota yng Nghymru. Os oes angen ei fireinio, bydd angen y dystiolaeth arnom a byddwn yn edrych ar hynny.

Rwy'n ymwybodol iawn o'r pwyntiau a wnaed gan arweinydd yr wrthblaid ynglŷn â thwristiaeth yng Nghymru. Gwn ein bod wedi sôn yma eisoes mai'r patrwm yn y diwydiant twristiaeth yw bod pobl yn buddsoddi yn y gaeaf ac yn adennill y costau hynny ac yn gwneud eu busnesau’n llwyddiannus yn yr haf, ac wrth i'r wythnosau fynd heibio, mae hynny'n rhoi cryn dipyn o bwysau ar y model busnes hwnnw. Rydym yn gweithio'n galed ochr yn ochr â'r diwydiant twristiaeth i geisio gwneud yr hyn a allwn i gynorthwyo.

Ar ficrofusnesau a'r pwyntiau eraill a nododd Paul Davies wrth gloi, mewn sawl ffordd, mae’r rheini'n fylchau yng nghynlluniau Llywodraeth y DU, a chanddynt hwy y mae’r prif gyfrifoldebau yn hynny o beth. Rydym yn parhau i ymgysylltu â Gweinidogion y DU, ac mae'r Canghellor wedi nodi parodrwydd i gyflwyno cynlluniau newydd a mesurau newydd lle mae bylchau wedi dod i'r amlwg yn y ddarpariaeth wreiddiol. Unig fasnachwyr, microfusnesau: maent yn parhau i fod yn faes lle mae angen i Lywodraeth y DU gamu i'r adwy a chynnig y cymorth sydd ei angen.


I'd like to ask you about testing, First Minister. In England, two mega laboratories that have the capacity to conduct tens of thousands of tests per day are already operational, and a third one is going to be added in England soon. Scotland will have a mega lab by the end of this week. And, as set out in the UK Government's testing plan, Northern Ireland already has established a major laboratory at the headquarters of Randox Laboratories in County Antrim. So, we now are the only nation in these islands that has not seen a large-scale laboratory set up specifically in the context of the pandemic. Did you ask for a mega lab for Wales?

Hoffwn eich holi ynglŷn â phrofi, Brif Weinidog. Yn Lloegr, mae dau fega-labordy sydd â'r capasiti i gynnal degau o filoedd o brofion y dydd eisoes yn weithredol, a bydd trydydd yn cael ei ychwanegu yn Lloegr cyn bo hir. Bydd gan yr Alban fega-labordy erbyn diwedd yr wythnos. Ac fel y nodwyd yng nghynllun profi Llywodraeth y DU, mae Gogledd Iwerddon eisoes wedi sefydlu labordy mawr ym mhencadlys Randox Laboratories yn Swydd Antrim. Felly, ni bellach yw'r unig genedl ar yr ynysoedd hyn nad ydym wedi cael labordy mawr wedi’i sefydlu'n benodol yng nghyd-destun y pandemig. A wnaethoch chi ofyn am fega-labordy i Gymru?

Llywydd, we have the testing capacity we need in Wales. We have no problem in Wales in processing the tests that are being carried out. The capacity we have is adequate to deal with the tests we are currently conducting and we have plans to expand that capacity in the right way for Wales. We didn't need to go to anybody else to get advice on their solutions, when we have a solution that we are implementing in a way that meets our needs and is right for Welsh circumstances.

Lywydd, mae gennym y capasiti profi sydd ei angen arnom yng Nghymru. Nid oes gennym unrhyw broblem yng Nghymru o ran prosesu'r profion a gynhelir. Mae'r capasiti sydd gennym yn ddigonol i ymdrin â'r profion rydym yn eu cynnal ar hyn o bryd ac mae gennym gynlluniau i ehangu'r capasiti hwnnw yn y ffordd gywir i Gymru. Nid oedd angen i ni fynd at unrhyw un arall i gael cyngor ar atebion, pan oedd gennym ateb rydym yn ei weithredu mewn ffordd sy'n diwallu ein hanghenion ac sy'n iawn ar gyfer amgylchiadau Cymru.

First Minister, how can you say that we have the necessary capacity when you've missed your own targets on tests three times in three weeks and now you've scrapped them? Let's talk about the capacity for testing within Wales. It's almost six weeks since scientists at Cardiff University wrote to Welsh Government offering their expertise in conducting tests here in Wales. Almost six weeks later, those hundreds of scientists—and by the way I spoke to one of them this morning—and their laboratories haven't had the go ahead, haven't had the accreditation, to conduct a single test on a key worker here in Wales. Is it any wonder that Sir Martin Evans has accused you of a dereliction of duty?

Brif Weinidog, sut y gallwch ddweud bod gennym y capasiti angenrheidiol a chithau wedi methu eich targedau eich hun ar brofion dair gwaith mewn tair wythnos, a bellach wedi cael gwared arnynt? Gadewch inni sôn am y capasiti profi yng Nghymru. Mae bron i chwe wythnos wedi bod ers i wyddonwyr ym Mhrifysgol Caerdydd ysgrifennu at Lywodraeth Cymru yn cynnig eu harbenigedd ar gyfer cynnal profion yma yng Nghymru. Bron i chwe wythnos yn ddiweddarach, nid yw’r cannoedd o wyddonwyr hynny—gyda llaw, siaradais ag un ohonynt y bore yma—na’u labordai wedi cael caniatâd, wedi cael eu hachredu, i gynnal un prawf ar weithiwr allweddol yma yng Nghymru. A yw'n syndod fod Syr Martin Evans wedi eich cyhuddo o esgeuluso eich dyletswydd?

Well, I think the Member has to be careful not to mix up the different aspects of testing. He originally asked me about laboratories that were dealing with tests that had been carried out, and I repeat to him what I said: we don't have any current deficit in our ability to process the tests that are being carried out and we have plans to increase that capacity when we need it.

The rapid review of testing that Paul Davies referred to showed us how we can increase the number of tests available and increase the take-up of tests, and we're putting that review into practice. We will have more tests in Wales this week than last. We're increasing the take-up of them, particularly from social care but from other key workers as well. We have police officers and firefighters being tested now in Wales.

On Sir Martin Evans's comments, I was surprised to see them and I see that Cardiff University immediately put out a statement saying that his views did not represent the views of the university and that the university continued to work very closely with the Welsh Government on a range of pandemic-related matters.

Wel, credaf fod yn rhaid i'r Aelod fod yn ofalus i beidio â chymysgu'r gwahanol agweddau ar brofi. Gofynnodd imi yn wreiddiol am labordai a oedd yn ymdrin â phrofion a oedd wedi’u cynnal, ac fe ailadroddaf yr hyn a ddywedais wrtho: nid oes gennym unrhyw ddiffyg ar hyn o bryd yn ein gallu i brosesu'r profion sy'n cael eu cynnal, ac mae gennym gynlluniau i gynyddu'r capasiti hwnnw pan fydd ei angen arnom.

Dangosodd yr adolygiad cyflym o brofion y cyfeiriodd Paul Davies ato sut y gallwn gynyddu nifer y profion sydd ar gael a chynyddu'r nifer sy'n cael prawf, ac rydym yn rhoi'r adolygiad hwnnw ar waith. Bydd gennym fwy o brofion yng Nghymru yr wythnos hon na'r wythnos diwethaf. Rydym yn cynyddu'r nifer sy'n eu cael, yn enwedig pobl ym maes gofal cymdeithasol, ond gweithwyr allweddol eraill hefyd. Mae gennym swyddogion heddlu a diffoddwyr tân yn cael eu profi yng Nghymru yn awr.

Ar sylwadau Syr Martin Evans, cefais fy synnu wrth eu gweld, a gwelaf fod Prifysgol Caerdydd wedi cyhoeddi datganiad ar unwaith i ddweud nad oedd ei farn yn cynrychioli barn y brifysgol, a bod y brifysgol yn parhau i weithio’n agos iawn gyda Llywodraeth Cymru ar ystod o faterion yn ymwneud â’r pandemig.

First Minister, may I thank you not just for your statement but for all the work that you and your team are doing? I trust that you are bearing up well in these quite extraordinary circumstances.

In trying to scrutinise what Welsh Government is doing, it is tempting to concentrate on the areas where the approach in Wales is somewhat different, perhaps, than that taken by the UK Government. But, overall, those differences are relatively small, and I think there's a far greater commonality in approach than there is any difference. There is, however, I think, between the UK and most countries in Europe, some difference in terms of how we approach that—that our lockdown, or at least compulsory lockdown, measures, came in rather later, and we are seeing, even in just looking at hospital deaths, deaths in the UK, and, indeed, Wales, on a per capita basis, as at or towards the top of the European league table, if that's not an inappropriate phrase to use, and the difficulties of the data and the comparisons are very real.

I just wonder—. We can see that very negative side of it, all the families who are affected by those losses, and we commiserate in every possible way with them. We see that happening. What is the Welsh Government's planning assumption about what that will mean as we gradually, at some point in the future, are able to loosen measures? Does the Welsh Government consider that there will be a greater degree of immunity from people who have had the virus, be that asymptomatic or be that with relatively limited symptoms? There are studies suggesting in Stockholm perhaps around 30 per cent of people having had infection. Do we have an assumption or any way of measuring or projecting what that will be for Wales and what the impact of that will be when we consider easing measures?

Could I also ask about the testing regime? We had, some time ago, community testing, and that was then shut down as we moved from one stage of the pandemic to another. We've had these targets of 5,000, or perhaps 9,000, at the end of the month for Wales, and 100,000 for the UK, or for England. I don't know if those are the right targets, but it doesn't look as if we're particularly in distance of hitting them, and I just wonder what can be done to make testing more widespread.

One health board that I'm in good contact with—and it may be a more general issue—at least at the end of last week, didn't want to give wider testing to partners and other organisations because of concerns that they didn't have cover around data protection and GDPR, and they were waiting for Public Health Wales to publish, or at least share with them, a protocol on what should be done. Surely the degree of emphasis that would go to those issues should be less when we have a pandemic of this scale and we have this urgency of having greater testing. And if an organisation is sharing data from someone who's had a test and is sharing a swab to be tested with another organisation, a health board that's got the testing capacity, why can't that be tested and the test result and the other data returned whence it came, given that the person has given permission for that test? I know, ideally, one would like to give a lot of feedback and ensure what pathways people would go down, depending on what that test result is, but surely it is better that—if people believe they have coronavirus, it is better that they are tested and find out for sure whether they do or do not have that. I just wonder: can Welsh Government do anything or show a lead in terms of any data protection issues, if there still is a concern that's slowing or making it hard to test people who are not directly employed by the health boards? Can you as First Minister give a lead in that area?

Brif Weinidog, a gaf fi ddiolch i chi nid yn unig am eich datganiad ond am yr holl waith rydych chi a'ch tîm yn ei wneud? Rwy’n gobeithio eich bod yn ymdopi yn yr amgylchiadau eithriadol hyn.

Wrth geisio craffu ar yr hyn y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei wneud, mae'n demtasiwn i ganolbwyntio ar y meysydd lle mae'r dull gweithredu yng Nghymru ychydig yn wahanol, efallai, i'r hyn a wneir gan Lywodraeth y DU. Ond ar y cyfan, mae'r gwahaniaethau hynny'n gymharol fach, a chredaf fod mwy o lawer yn gyffredin yn y dulliau gweithredu nag sydd o wahaniaethau rhyngddynt. Fodd bynnag, rhwng y DU a'r rhan fwyaf o wledydd Ewrop, credaf fod rhywfaint o wahaniaeth o ran sut rydym yn mynd i’r afael â hynny—fod ein cyfyngiadau symud, neu o leiaf y cyfyngiadau symud gorfodol, wedi dod i rym ychydig yn hwyrach, ac rydym yn gweld, hyd yn oed wrth edrych ar farwolaethau mewn ysbytai yn unig, fod marwolaethau yn y DU, ac yn wir, yng Nghymru, fesul pen o'r boblogaeth, ar frig tabl cynghrair Ewrop, neu’n agos at y brig, os nad yw hwnnw'n ymadrodd amhriodol i'w ddefnyddio, ac mae anawsterau'r data a'r cymariaethau yn real iawn.

Tybed—. Gallwn weld yr ochr negyddol iawn ar bethau, yr holl deuluoedd yr effeithir arnynt gan y colledion hynny, ac rydym yn cydymdeimlo â hwy ym mhob ffordd. Rydym yn gweld hynny'n digwydd. Beth yw rhagdybiaeth gynllunio Llywodraeth Cymru ynghylch yr hyn y bydd hynny'n ei olygu wrth inni lacio'r mesurau'n raddol ar ryw adeg yn y dyfodol? A yw Llywodraeth Cymru o'r farn y bydd mwy o imiwnedd gan bobl sydd wedi cael y feirws, boed hynny'n asymptomatig neu â symptomau cymharol ysgafn? Mae astudiaethau'n awgrymu yn Stockholm fod oddeutu 30 y cant o bobl o bosibl wedi cael eu heintio. A oes gennym ragdybiaeth neu unrhyw ffordd o fesur neu daflunio beth fydd y ffigur cyfatebol yng Nghymru a beth fydd effaith hynny pan fyddwn yn ystyried llacio’r mesurau?

A gaf fi ofyn hefyd am y drefn brofi? Beth amser yn ôl, cawsom brofion cymunedol, a rhoddwyd diwedd ar hynny wrth inni symud o un cam o'r pandemig i'r llall. Rydym wedi cael targedau o 5,000, neu 9,000 efallai, erbyn diwedd y mis ar gyfer Cymru, a 100,000 ar gyfer y DU, neu ar gyfer Lloegr. Nid wyf yn gwybod a yw’r targedau hynny’n rhai cywir, ond nid ymddengys ein bod yn arbennig o agos i’w cyrraedd, a tybed beth y gellir ei wneud i gynnal profion ar raddfa fwy.

Nid oedd un bwrdd iechyd rwyf mewn cysylltiad ag ef—ac efallai ei fod yn fater mwy cyffredinol—ddiwedd yr wythnos diwethaf o leiaf, yn awyddus i gynnal profion ehangach i bartneriaid a sefydliadau eraill oherwydd pryderon nad oes sicrwydd yswiriant ganddynt o ran diogelu data a GDPR, ac roeddent yn aros i Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru gyhoeddi protocol, neu ei rannu gyda hwy o leiaf, ar yr hyn y dylid ei wneud. Does bosibl na ddylai'r pwyslais a roddir ar y materion hynny fod yn llai pan fydd gennym bandemig ar y raddfa hon a'r angen dirfawr i gynnal mwy o brofion. Ac os yw sefydliad yn rhannu data gan rywun sydd wedi cael prawf ac sy'n rhannu swab i'w brofi gyda sefydliad arall, bwrdd iechyd sydd â'r capasiti i brofi, pam na ellir ei brofi a dychwelyd canlyniad y prawf a'r data arall i ble y daeth, o gofio bod yr unigolyn wedi rhoi caniatâd ar gyfer y prawf hwnnw? Yn ddelfrydol, rwy'n gwybod yr hoffai rhywun roi cryn dipyn o adborth a sicrhau pa lwybrau y byddai pobl yn eu dilyn, yn dibynnu ar ganlyniad y prawf hwnnw, ond does bosibl nad yw'n well—os yw pobl yn credu bod ganddynt y coronafeirws, mae'n well eu bod yn cael eu profi ac yn cael sicrwydd a ydynt wedi'i gael ai peidio. Tybed a all Llywodraeth Cymru wneud unrhyw beth neu ddangos arweiniad ar unrhyw faterion diogelu data os oes pryder o hyd sy'n arafu neu'n ei gwneud yn anodd profi pobl nad ydynt yn cael eu cyflogi'n uniongyrchol gan y byrddau iechyd? A allwch chi fel Prif Weinidog roi arweiniad yn hynny o beth?


Llywydd, can I thank Mark Reckless for his opening remarks? The relationship between Wales and the rest of the United Kingdom in the coronavirus crisis is one in which I believe that working alongside the other Governments is a strength, that, when we can do things together and send a single message out to the public, that makes that message simpler and therefore more readily heard and understood. But, where there are things that we need to do differently to meet Welsh circumstances, then of course we will do that as well. But I always go into the room with other UK Governments looking for common ground and trying to craft a way forward in which we can all sign up to it together.

I agree with what Mr Reckless said about following European evidence, about looking at experience elsewhere. Other European countries are coming out of coronavirus ahead of us, are lifting restrictions before we are able to do so. We need to capture the learning that they will have about what the impact of that will be.

On immunity, my understanding of this is that we don't have good enough evidence from anywhere in the world that having coronavirus gives you a level of immunity that means that you can confidently go and provide services to people who have the virus, knowing that you can't be reinfected, or that you can't be a source of difficulties to others. There is a huge amount of work going on in many countries to try and establish that evidence, but, today, you couldn't confidently say to somebody who'd been tested, who the test demonstrates that they've had the virus, that that now means that they can safely go and put themselves in places that otherwise would be a source of risk to them.

The pattern for the future that we are anticipating in Wales depends a great deal on the rate of conformity with the current lockdown arrangements. If it was only 40 per cent, the virus could still be rising. If it's 60 per cent, then we can be pretty confident that the virus rate of spread in the community will be going down. If it's 75 per cent, we may well see a very real suppression of the virus that will last into the weeks ahead. So, the modelling depends upon the extent to which we can go on persuading people to abide by the restrictions. As you know, in Wales, we've had a fantastic response to that, but we need to make sure that that continues.

On testing and on the data-sharing issue particularly, the Information Commissioner put out guidance very early on that said that his office would look sympathetically on measures that were being taken to make sure the data was properly shared, while making it clear that the law has not changed. Therefore, when organisations are sharing data—and remember the data belongs to the patient, not to the organisations; so, it's your data and my data, and the person being tested's data that is being shared—there is still an obligation on organisations to make sure that that is being done in a way that is careful and proportionate. While I don't want general data protection regulation and data-sharing issues to get in the way of doing the right thing, I do understand why people who will be held responsible for the way in which they have made those decisions on our data need to make sure that they are doing it in a way that would continue to stand up to scrutiny from the Information Commissioner and any court of law.

Lywydd, a gaf fi ddiolch i Mark Reckless am ei sylwadau agoriadol? Mae'r berthynas rhwng Cymru a gweddill y Deyrnas Unedig mewn perthynas ag argyfwng y coronafeirws yn un lle credaf fod gweithio ochr yn ochr â'r Llywodraethau eraill yn gryfder, a phan allwn wneud pethau gyda'n gilydd a chyfleu un neges i'r cyhoedd, mae hynny’n gwneud y neges honno'n symlach ac felly mae'n cael ei chlywed a'i deall yn haws. Ond lle mae pethau y mae angen i ni eu gwneud yn wahanol i gyd-fynd ag amgylchiadau Cymru, yna wrth gwrs, byddwn yn gwneud hynny hefyd. Ond rwyf bob amser yn mynd i mewn i'r ystafell gyda Llywodraethau eraill y DU gan chwilio am dir cyffredin a cheisio creu ffordd ymlaen y gallwn oll ei dilyn gyda'n gilydd.

Cytunaf â'r hyn a ddywedodd Mr Reckless ynglŷn â dilyn tystiolaeth Ewropeaidd, ynglŷn ag edrych ar brofiadau mewn mannau eraill. Mae gwledydd Ewropeaidd eraill yn dod allan o’r coronafeirws o'n blaenau ni, yn codi cyfyngiadau cyn y gallwn ni wneud hynny. Mae angen inni sicrhau ein bod yn dysgu ganddynt beth fydd effaith hynny.

Ar imiwnedd, fy nealltwriaeth o hynny yw nad oes gennym dystiolaeth ddigon da o unrhyw le yn y byd fod cael y coronafeirws yn rhoi lefel o imiwnedd i chi sy'n golygu y gallwch fod yn ddigon hyderus i ddarparu gwasanaethau i bobl sydd â'r feirws, gan wybod na allwch gael eich ail-heintio, neu nad ydych yn mynd i beri anawsterau i eraill. Mae llawer iawn o waith yn mynd rhagddo mewn sawl gwlad i geisio sefydlu'r dystiolaeth honno, ond heddiw, ni allech ddweud yn hyderus wrth rywun sydd wedi cael eu profi, lle mae'r prawf yn dangos eu bod wedi cael y feirws, fod hynny bellach yn golygu ei bod yn ddiogel iddynt fynd i leoedd a fyddai fel arall yn peri risg iddynt.

Mae'r patrwm rydym yn ei ragweld yng Nghymru ar gyfer y dyfodol yn dibynnu i raddau helaeth ar y gyfradd sy’n cydymffurfio â'r cyfyngiadau symud cyfredol. Pe bai hynny ond yn 40 y cant, gallai'r feirws fod yn cynyddu o hyd. Os yw'n 60 y cant, gallwn fod yn eithaf hyderus y bydd cyfradd lledaeniad y feirws yn y gymuned yn gostwng. Os yw'n 75 y cant, mae'n ddigon posibl y gwelwn y feirws yn cael ei atal, ac y bydd hynny’n para yn yr wythnosau i ddod. Felly, mae'r modelu’n dibynnu ar i ba raddau y gallwn barhau i berswadio pobl i gadw at y cyfyngiadau. Fel y gwyddoch, yng Nghymru, rydym wedi cael ymateb gwych i hynny, ond mae angen inni sicrhau ei fod yn parhau.

Ar brofi a mater rhannu data yn arbennig, cyflwynodd y Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth ganllawiau yn gynnar iawn a ddywedai y byddai ei swyddfa’n dangos cydymdeimlad wrth ymdrin â mesurau a oedd yn cael eu cymryd i sicrhau bod y data’n cael ei rannu’n iawn, gan ddweud yn glir nad yw’r gyfraith wedi newid. Felly, pan fydd sefydliadau'n rhannu data—a chofiwch fod y data'n eiddo i'r claf, nid i'r sefydliadau; felly, eich data chi a fy nata i, a data'r person sy'n cael y prawf sy'n cael ei rannu—mae rhwymedigaeth o hyd ar sefydliadau i sicrhau bod hynny'n digwydd mewn ffordd sy'n ofalus ac yn gymesur. Er nad wyf am i’r rheoliad cyffredinol ar ddiogelu data a materion rhannu data atal unrhyw un rhag gwneud y peth iawn, rwy'n deall pam fod angen i bobl a fydd yn cael eu dwyn i gyfrif am y ffordd y maent wedi gwneud y penderfyniadau hynny ynglŷn â’n data sicrhau eu bod yn gwneud hynny mewn ffordd a fyddai’n parhau i wrthsefyll craffu gan y Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth ac unrhyw lys barn.


We are almost out of time for the statement, and I haven't been able to call a backbencher yet, so if I can extend the time slightly in order to be able to call backbenchers—. We will review this allocation of time and allocation within the time for speakers and party leaders for next week's session in order to allow more backbenchers to be called. If I can ask for succinct questions and succinct answers from now on, I'll try and call as many as possible within the next 10 minutes. Mark Isherwood.

Mae ein hamser bron ar ben ar gyfer y datganiad, ac nid wyf wedi gallu galw ar Aelod o’r meinciau cefn eto, felly os caf ymestyn yr amser ychydig er mwyn gallu galw ar Aelodau o’r meinciau cefn—. Byddwn yn adolygu'r dyraniad amser hwn a’r dyraniad o fewn yr amser i siaradwyr ac arweinwyr y pleidiau ar gyfer sesiwn yr wythnos nesaf er mwyn caniatáu i fwy o Aelodau’r meinciau cefn gael eu galw. Os caf ofyn am gwestiynau cryno ac atebion cryno o hyn ymlaen, fe geisiaf alw ar gynifer â phosibl o fewn y 10 munud nesaf. Mark Isherwood.

Diolch, Llywydd. In a letter to you on Monday, Autistic UK Cymru said the Wales regulations—the health protection coronavirus restriction regulations—had been written in a way that further confuses autistic people. In England, people with specific medical needs, including those with learning disabilities or autism who require specific exercise, may leave their homes to exercise in open space two or three times a day. I've been contacted by concerned families across Wales who need the same provision asking why they can't have it in Wales. In your briefing on Monday, you made positive noises about changes to the regulations, including those for people with learning disabilities or autism. Will you now, therefore, ensure that individuals with learning disabilities or autism in Wales who require specific exercise can access that in a way equivalent to that of their colleagues across the border?

Local councils across Wales are facing huge financial pressures as a result of the pandemic, with losses estimated to be in excess of £33 million a month. How will you address the concerns expressed by local authorities in Wales with low levels of reserves that they will go under without financial help to cover the additional costs of providing services during this pandemic? Will you commit to giving the additional £95 million your Government will receive from the UK Government, in consequence of the £1.6 billion announced for local councils in England to fight COVID-19, directly to local authorities in Wales to support the key services they provide, and to the independent care sector for the support they provide in the collective fight against this pandemic?

Finally, in the virtual Plenary two weeks ago, I asked you to clarify provision for critical workers to access childcare and educational settings for their children, after having been contacted by NHS staff in Flintshire who've been told that both parents had to be critical workers in order to qualify. I understand that, in most councils, the rule has been the same, in that where possible in such circumstances if parents could stay at home to look after their child, but where that's not possible, care is being made available. My colleague Suzy Davies learned from the education Minister last Friday, we understand, that all that now needs to be shown is that one parent is a key worker. Could you therefore please clarify and give clear instructions or directions to local authorities on whether that's accurate and whether it is now sufficient for one parent to be a key worker where the other parent is not able to be at home for any part of the day or the week?

Diolch, Lywydd. Mewn llythyr atoch ddydd Llun, dywedodd Autistic UK Cymru fod rheoliadau Cymru—y rheoliadau diogelu iechyd cyfyngiadau coronafeirws—wedi cael eu hysgrifennu mewn ffordd sy'n drysu pobl awtistig ymhellach. Yn Lloegr, gall pobl ag anghenion meddygol penodol, gan gynnwys pobl ag anableddau dysgu neu awtistiaeth sydd angen ymarfer corff penodol adael eu cartrefi i ymarfer corff mewn man agored ddwy neu dair gwaith y dydd. Mae teuluoedd pryderus ledled Cymru sydd angen yr un ddarpariaeth wedi cysylltu â mi i ofyn pam na allant wneud hynny yng Nghymru. Yn eich sesiwn friffio ddydd Llun, fe ddywedoch bethau cadarnhaol ynglŷn â newidiadau i'r rheoliadau, gan gynnwys y rheini ar gyfer pobl ag anableddau dysgu neu awtistiaeth. A wnewch chi, felly, sicrhau bod unigolion ag anableddau dysgu neu awtistiaeth yng Nghymru sydd angen ymarfer corff penodol yn gallu gwneud hynny mewn ffordd debyg i'w cymheiriaid dros y ffin?

Mae cynghorau lleol ledled Cymru yn wynebu pwysau ariannol enfawr o ganlyniad i'r pandemig, ac amcangyfrifir y bydd y colledion yn fwy na £33 miliwn y mis. Sut y byddwch yn mynd i’r afael â’r pryderon a fynegwyd gan awdurdodau lleol yng Nghymru gyda lefelau isel o gronfeydd wrth gefn y byddant yn boddi heb gymorth ariannol i dalu’r costau ychwanegol yn sgil darparu gwasanaethau yn ystod y pandemig hwn? A wnewch chi ymrwymo i roi'r £95 miliwn ychwanegol y bydd eich Llywodraeth yn ei gael gan Lywodraeth y DU, fel cyllid canlyniadol yn sgil yr £1.6 biliwn a gyhoeddwyd i gynghorau lleol yn Lloegr ar gyfer ymladd COVID-19, yn uniongyrchol i awdurdodau lleol yng Nghymru i gefnogi'r gwasanaethau allweddol y maent yn eu darparu, ac i'r sector gofal annibynnol am y cymorth y maent yn ei ddarparu yn y frwydr gyfunol yn erbyn y pandemig hwn?

Yn olaf, yn y Cyfarfod Llawn rhithwir bythefnos yn ôl, gofynnais i chi egluro'r ddarpariaeth ar gyfer gweithwyr hanfodol i gael mynediad at ofal plant a lleoliadau addysgol ar gyfer eu plant, ar ôl i staff y GIG yn Sir y Fflint gysylltu i ddweud bod yn rhaid i'r ddau riant fod yn weithwyr hanfodol er mwyn bod yn gymwys. Rwy'n deall bod y rheol wedi bod yr un fath yn y rhan fwyaf o gynghorau, yn yr ystyr y gallai rhieni aros gartref i ofalu am eu plentyn mewn amgylchiadau o'r fath, ond lle nad yw hynny'n bosibl, bydd gofal ar gael. Dysgodd fy nghyd-Aelod Suzy Davies gan y Gweinidog addysg ddydd Gwener diwethaf, yn ôl yr hyn a ddeallwn, mai’r cyfan sydd angen ei ddangos bellach yw bod un rhiant yn weithiwr allweddol. A allech chi egluro felly, a rhoi cyfarwyddiadau clir i awdurdodau lleol ynglŷn â chywirdeb hynny ac a yw hi bellach yn ddigon i un rhiant fod yn weithiwr allweddol pan nad yw'r rhiant arall yn gallu bod gartref am unrhyw ran o'r diwrnod neu’r wythnos?


Llywydd, thank you. We're obliged to review the regulations every 21 days. As a result of our first review, we intend to change the guidance on exercise for families where there is a medical need to have exercise more than once a day, and that will encompass children with autism. We will amend the regulations at the end of this week in the way that Mr Isherwood referred to.

As far as local councils are concerned, we have already given them £110 million more in Wales, well exceeding the £95 million consequential, but of course we are alert to the continuing pressures that local authorities face on their budgets and are in discussions with the WLGA about that additional £95 million, and there will be further assistance for local authorities in Wales.

I believe the guidance has already clarified the position of critical care workers and childcare, but I will make sure that if there is any ambiguity left in the minds of some local authorities that we clarify that with them.

Lywydd, diolch. Mae gennym rwymedigaeth i adolygu'r rheoliadau bob 21 diwrnod. O ganlyniad i'n hadolygiad cyntaf, rydym yn bwriadu newid y canllawiau ar ymarfer corff i deuluoedd lle ceir angen meddygol i ymarfer corff fwy nag unwaith y dydd, a bydd hynny'n cynnwys plant ag awtistiaeth. Byddwn yn diwygio'r rheoliadau ddiwedd yr wythnos hon yn y ffordd a nododd Mr Isherwood.

O ran y cynghorau lleol, rydym eisoes wedi rhoi £110 miliwn yn fwy iddynt yng Nghymru, ymhell uwchlaw'r £95 miliwn o gyllid canlyniadol, ond wrth gwrs, rydym yn ymwybodol o'r pwysau parhaus y mae awdurdodau lleol yn eu hwynebu yn eu cyllidebau, ac rydym mewn trafodaethau â CLlLC ynghylch y £95 miliwn ychwanegol hwnnw, a bydd cymorth pellach i awdurdodau lleol yng Nghymru.

Credaf fod y canllawiau eisoes wedi egluro’r sefyllfa o ran gweithwyr gofal hanfodol a gofal plant, ond os bydd unrhyw awdurdodau lleol yn dal i fod yn ansicr, fe wnaf yn siŵr ein bod yn egluro hynny iddynt.

First Minister, you made mention of the restrictions on movement and leaving home, and I think that everybody understands the importance of discipline and compliance, as you mentioned, and that you will be guided by the medical and scientific advice in terms of any easing of those restrictions. I wonder if there's any more that you can say at this stage in terms of what early easing of restrictions might look like in Wales. Because I think a lot of people are obviously very interested in that, and the restrictions themselves have an impact on physical and mental health and well-being. So, we're all really pleased that people are observing these restrictions, and that's so important to protect public health and front-line staff. But I think people are very interested in what might happen a little way down the track in terms of early easing, when scientific and medical advice supports that.

Brif Weinidog, fe sonioch chi am y cyfyngiadau ar symud a gadael eich cartref, a chredaf fod pawb yn deall pwysigrwydd disgyblaeth a chydymffurfiaeth, fel y nodoch chi, ac y byddwch yn dilyn y cyngor meddygol a gwyddonol o ran unrhyw lacio ar y cyfyngiadau hynny. Tybed a oes rhagor y gallwch ei ddweud ar hyn o bryd ynglŷn â sut y byddai llacio’r cyfyngiadau yn gynnar yn edrych yng Nghymru? Oherwydd credaf fod gan lawer o bobl gryn ddiddordeb yn hynny, yn amlwg, ac mae'r cyfyngiadau eu hunain yn cael effaith ar iechyd a lles corfforol a meddyliol. Felly, mae pob un ohonom yn falch iawn fod pobl yn cadw at y cyfyngiadau hyn, ac mae hynny mor bwysig er mwyn diogelu iechyd y cyhoedd a staff ar y rheng flaen. Ond credaf fod gan bobl gryn ddiddordeb yn yr hyn a allai ddigwydd yn y dyfodol o ran llacio’r cyfyngiadau yn gynnar, pan fydd cyngor gwyddonol a meddygol yn cefnogi hynny.

Thanks to John for that, Llywydd. Look, I'm not going today to give actual examples of what early moves in easing the restrictions might be. What I want people in Wales to know is that we are developing a set of tests that we will apply to any particular measure, the first and foremost test being: what would the impact of carrying out that course of action be on public health? But we will ask questions such as: how could that measure be policed? If you're going to change the rules, can the rules be enforced? And how easily could that be reversed if it turned out to be having an adverse impact? If that was something that caused the virus to spread again, would we be able to reverse it quickly as well?

Whatever measures we introduce, I think there will be a need for a clear set of protocols around that activity, because while I know, as John said, lots of people are looking forward to the day when some of the restrictions can be eased, I think there will be a lot of people fearful about stepping back into ordinary life. We have had weeks in which we have all been abiding by the message, 'Stay home, help protect the NHS, save lives', and as people move beyond that, I think people are going to need the confidence of knowing that there is a set of rules around any activity that means that their health and welfare is being safeguarded. So as we identify the particular measures against the tests, so we will want to work with those sectors to make sure that those protocols and rules are in place to give people the confidence to take up those activities again, because without them, I think people may be nervous about taking those first steps without knowing that we are really thinking that through and making sure that their health and well-being is being properly safeguarded.

Diolch i John am hynny, Lywydd. Edrychwch, nid wyf am roi enghreifftiau heddiw o beth y gallai newidiadau cynnar o ran llacio'r cyfyngiadau ei olygu. Yr hyn rwyf am i bobl yng Nghymru ei wybod yw ein bod yn datblygu cyfres o brofion y byddwn yn eu defnyddio mewn perthynas ag unrhyw fesur penodol, a'r prawf cyntaf oll yw beth fyddai effaith cyflawni'r cam gweithredu hwnnw ar iechyd y cyhoedd? Ond byddwn yn gofyn cwestiynau fel: sut y gellid plismona'r mesur hwnnw? Os ydych yn mynd i newid y rheolau, a ellir gorfodi'r rheolau? A pha mor hawdd y gellid gwrthdroi hynny pe bai'n cael effaith niweidiol? Pe bai hynny'n rhywbeth a fyddai’n achosi i'r feirws ledaenu unwaith eto, a fyddai modd inni ei wrthdroi’n gyflym hefyd?

Pa fesurau bynnag a gyflwynwn, credaf y bydd angen set glir o brotocolau o amgylch y gweithgarwch hwnnw, oherwydd fel y dywedodd John, er y gwn fod llawer o bobl yn edrych ymlaen at y dydd pan ellir llacio rhai o'r cyfyngiadau, credaf y bydd llawer o bobl yn ofni camu'n ôl i fywyd arferol. Rydym wedi cael wythnosau lle mae pob un ohonom wedi bod yn cadw at y neges, 'Arhoswch gartref, diogelwch y GIG, achubwch fywydau', ac wrth i bobl symud y tu hwnt i hynny, credaf y bydd angen hyder ar bobl o wybod bod cyfres o reolau ynghlwm wrth unrhyw weithgaredd sy'n golygu bod eu hiechyd a'u lles yn cael eu diogelu. Felly, wrth inni nodi'r mesurau penodol yn erbyn y profion, byddwn yn awyddus hefyd i weithio gyda'r sectorau i sicrhau bod y protocolau a'r rheolau hynny ar waith i roi hyder i bobl ymgymryd â'r gweithgareddau hynny eto, oherwydd hebddynt, credaf y gallai pobl fod yn nerfus ynglŷn â chymryd y camau cyntaf heb wybod ein bod yn meddwl drwy'r cyfan ac yn sicrhau bod eu hiechyd a'u lles yn cael eu diogelu'n briodol.


Thank you for your statement, First Minister, and can I add my thanks to those of others to you and your Ministers in terms of everything that you're doing at the moment? It's really, really difficult times for all of us.

Two issues from me: firstly, I know that we all recognise the remarkable voluntary efforts that we're seeing across our communities to help vulnerable neighbours and friends, so could you please update us on Welsh Government's support for the third sector to help underpin the contribution of volunteers? And secondly, following on from what John Griffiths was saying, really, you've already said that the next phase of our response must be led by the scientific advice, so can I ask whether your current evaluation of that advice and the possibility that we might have to manage the impact of the virus on our communities for possibly another 12 to 18 months, does that mean that investment in testing stations, PPE and other equipment, in rapid response teams for future outbreaks and in maintaining community and volunteering networks, in reality, is going to continue for the foreseeable future and until we have an effective vaccination programme?

Diolch am eich datganiad, Brif Weinidog, ac a gaf fi ychwanegu fy niolch at y diolchiadau eraill i chi a'ch Gweinidogion am bopeth rydych yn ei wneud ar hyn o bryd? Mae'n gyfnod anodd iawn i bob un ohonom.

Dau fater gennyf fi: yn gyntaf, gwn fod pob un ohonom yn cydnabod yr ymdrechion gwirfoddol anhygoel rydym yn eu gweld ar draws ein cymunedau i helpu cymdogion a ffrindiau sy'n agored i niwed, felly a wnewch chi roi'r newyddion diweddaraf i ni am gefnogaeth Llywodraeth Cymru i'r trydydd sector i helpu i ategu cyfraniad y gwirfoddolwyr? Ac yn ail, yn dilyn yr hyn a ddywedodd John Griffiths a dweud y gwir, rydych eisoes wedi dweud bod yn rhaid i gam nesaf ein hymateb gael ei arwain gan gyngor gwyddonol, felly a gaf fi ofyn a yw eich gwerthusiad cyfredol o'r cyngor hwnnw a'r posibilrwydd efallai y bydd angen inni reoli effaith y feirws ar ein cymunedau am 12 i 18 mis arall o bosibl, a yw hynny'n golygu bod buddsoddi mewn gorsafoedd profi, cyfarpar diogelu personol ac offer arall, mewn timau ymateb cyflym ar gyfer achosion yn y dyfodol ac mewn cynnal rhwydweithiau cymunedol a rhwydweithiau gwirfoddoli, yn mynd i barhau am y dyfodol rhagweladwy mewn gwirionedd, a hyd nes y bydd gennym raglen frechu effeithiol?

Well, I thank Dawn Bowden for those questions, Llywydd. On the voluntary effort, we have 15,000 new volunteers in the system as a result of the coronavirus appeal. That's more than double the number of volunteers that were previously registered in that system and that's a fantastic response. Here in Wales, the help that we are able to offer that group of people who are not in the shielded category but nevertheless have real vulnerability because they don't have family, friends or neighbours or other networks they can use, the mobilisation of that voluntary effort through community voluntary councils working with local authorities, I think, has been an astonishing strength of the way that we've been able to make sure that those vulnerable people in Wales have not been neglected, not just set to one side. And that is an effort that is going to have to continue for many weeks and months ahead.

I want to take up Dawn's second point, Llywydd, and just underline it: this is a long haul. This is not going to be over quickly. Until there is a vaccination that everybody can feel confident works, then we're going to be living with outbreaks of this virus for quite a long time to come, and as we lift the lockdown, so the surveillance measures in the community, our ability to be able to spot quickly and respond quickly to local flaring up of the virus again, will be an absolutely essential part of the plan that John Griffiths asked me about. Our chief medical officer has already developed a surveillance plan for Wales that we will need as the lockdown begins to be eased, and we are discussing with Public Health Wales this week how that plan can be translated into services on the ground. It will mean a different sort of testing regime, going back to community testing, rather than testing aimed solely at patients and at staff. It will be a huge effort that we will need to mobilise again and that's why, in my opening statement, I emphasised our determination to use the time we have during the next three weeks to put those sorts of plans firmly in place.

Wel, diolch i Dawn Bowden am ei chwestiynau, Lywydd. Ar yr ymdrech wirfoddol, mae gennym 15,000 o wirfoddolwyr newydd yn y system o ganlyniad i'r apêl coronafeirws. Mae hynny'n fwy na dwywaith nifer y gwirfoddolwyr a oedd wedi'u cofrestru eisoes yn y system honno, ac mae hwnnw'n ymateb gwych. Yma yng Nghymru, mae’r help y gallwn ei gynnig i'r grŵp hwnnw o bobl nad ydynt yn y categori a warchodir ond sydd serch hynny’n wirioneddol agored i niwed am nad oes ganddynt deulu, ffrindiau na chymdogion na rhwydweithiau eraill y gallant eu defnyddio, credaf fod symbylu’r ymdrech wirfoddol honno drwy waith cynghorau gwirfoddol cymunedol ar y cyd ag awdurdodau lleol wedi bod yn gryfder rhyfeddol o ran y ffordd rydym wedi gallu sicrhau nad yw'r bobl agored i niwed hynny yng Nghymru wedi cael eu hesgeuluso, neu eu gwthio o'r neilltu. Ac mae honno'n ymdrech sy'n mynd i orfod parhau am wythnosau a misoedd i ddod.

Hoffwn roi sylw i ail bwynt Dawn, Lywydd, a’i danlinellu: mae hon yn daith hir. Ni ddaw i ben yn fuan. Hyd nes y bydd brechiad ar gael y gall pawb deimlo'n hyderus ei fod yn gweithio, byddwn yn byw gydag achosion o'r feirws hwn am amser hir, ac wrth i ni godi'r cyfyngiadau symud, bydd y mesurau gwyliadwriaeth yn y gymuned, ein gallu i nodi achosion lleol o’r feirws yn gyflym ac ymateb iddynt yn gyflym eto, yn rhan gwbl hanfodol o'r cynllun y gofynnodd John Griffiths imi yn ei gylch. Mae ein prif swyddog meddygol eisoes wedi datblygu cynllun gwyliadwriaeth ar gyfer Cymru y bydd ei angen arnom wrth i'r cyfyngiadau symud ddechrau cael eu llacio, ac rydym yn trafod gydag Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru yr wythnos hon sut y gellir trosi'r cynllun hwnnw'n wasanaethau ar lawr gwlad. Bydd yn golygu math gwahanol o drefn brofi, mynd yn ôl i brofi yn y gymuned, yn hytrach nag anelu profion at gleifion ac at staff yn unig. Bydd yn ymdrech enfawr y bydd angen i ni ei symbylu unwaith eto, a dyna pam, yn fy natganiad agoriadol, y pwysleisiais ein penderfyniad i ddefnyddio'r amser sydd gennym yn ystod y tair wythnos nesaf i roi'r mathau hynny o gynlluniau ar waith yn gadarn.


Heddiw yma, mae 15 o ddoctoriaid sy'n arwain clystyrau iechyd ar draws Cymru wedi anfon llythyr cadarn atoch chi yn gofyn am gyfyngiadau llawer llymach ar gyfer ail gartrefi. A fydd eich Llywodraeth chi yn gwrando ar lais y clinigwyr yma sy'n galw am wahardd y defnydd o ail gartrefi yng Nghymru, er mwyn atal ail don o'r haint? Mae'n sobor meddwl am ail don ar ôl wythnosau o bwysau parhaol ar staff rheng flaen, ond rhaid i ni wynebu'r posibilrwydd real yna. Ac wrth gynllunio ar gyfer hynny, mae'n rhaid rhoi sicrwydd i'n hardaloedd gwledig, i'n hardaloedd twristaidd ni, y bydd eu hanghenion nhw yn flaenllaw yn y cynllunio yma. Ac ydych chi'n cytuno efo fi hefyd fod rhoi dirwy o £60 i'r rhai sydd yn teithio yma yn ddiangen—wel, does yna ddim ond un gair amdano fo: bod hynny'n chwerthinllyd o fach. A wnewch chi gefnogi galwad Plaid Cymru am ddeddfwriaeth i gynyddu y ddirwy i £1,000, fel bod yr heddlu yn gallu rhoi cosb go iawn i'r rhai sydd yn torri'r rheolau ac yn teithio yma yn ddiangen?

Today, 15 doctors who are leading health clusters across Wales have sent a robust letter to you, asking for far stricter restrictions in terms of second homes. Will your Government listen to the voices of these clinicians who are calling for a ban on the use of second homes in Wales in order to prevent a second wave of this virus? It’s terrible to think of such a thing after weeks of ongoing pressures on front-line staff, but we have to face that very real possibility. And in planning for that, we must provide assurances to our rural areas and our tourism areas that their needs will be at the forefront of that planning. Do you also agree with me that giving a fine of £60 to those who travel here unnecessarily—well, there’s only one word for it: that is risibly low. Will you support calls made by Plaid Cymru for legislation to increase that fine to £1,000, so that the police can properly punish those who break the rules and travel here unnecessarily?

Wel, diolch i Siân Gwenllian am y cwestiynau. Dwi ddim wedi gweld y llythyr yna eto ond, wrth gwrs, dwi'n cydnabod y pethau mae hi wedi eu dweud. Rŷm ni wedi gweithio'n galed gyda'r heddlu ledled Cymru ac maen nhw wedi defnyddio y pwerau sydd gyda nhw ar hyn o bryd. Bob penwythnos, maen nhw'n gwneud pethau. Maen nhw'n dod ar draws pobl sydd yn teithio i mewn i Gymru ac maen nhw'n eu troi nhw nôl; maen nhw wedi gwneud hynna dro ar ôl tro. Bob wythnos, dwi'n gofyn i'r heddlu a ydy'r pwerau sydd gyda nhw ar hyn o bryd yn ddigonol, neu ydyn nhw eisiau i ni wneud mwy. Y casgliad rydym ni wedi dod ato, dwi'n meddwl, yw ein bod ni eisiau tynnu'r heddlu, Llywodraeth Cymru a'r bobl yn y maes at ei gilydd jest i weld. Mae'n un peth i ddweud i gryfhau y mesurau, mae'n rhywbeth arall i gynllunio'r mesurau iddyn nhw ddelio ag unrhyw broblemau mae'r heddlu yn gallu eu dangos i ni. Dwi eisiau gwneud y gwaith yna, ac os oes rhywbeth arall rŷm ni'n gallu ei wneud, lle mae'r heddlu yn dweud y byddai hynny'n ddefnyddiol iddyn nhw, dwi'n hollol fodlon i fynd lawr y llwybr yna. 

Dwi ddim yn cytuno â Siân Gwenllian am yr arian rŷm ni'n gallu tynnu mas o bobl sydd ddim yn cydymffurfio â'r rheolau. Dŷn ni ddim jest yn gallu gwneud hynny am un ffordd o beidio â chydymffurfio. Ac i fi, dwi ddim wedi gweld tystiolaeth o gwbl sy'n dweud bod y lefelau sydd gyda ni yma yng Nghymru ddim yn effeithiol, a dwi ddim yn meddwl bod yr achos wedi cael ei wneud i newid beth sydd gyda ni yn y maes yna. 

Well, thank you to Siân Gwenllian for those questions. I haven’t yet seen that correspondence, but I do acknowledge the issues that she has raised. We have been working hard with the police forces across Wales and they have used the powers that they currently have. Every weekend they are working and they do fine people who are travelling to Wales unnecessarily; they do turn them back, and they have done that time and time again. Every week I ask the police whether the powers that they currently have are sufficient or whether they want us to do more. And the conclusion we’ve come to, I think, is that we want to bring the police, the Welsh Government and those working in this area to have a look at it. It’s one thing to say that we need to strengthen the measures, but it’s another thing to plan those so that they can deal with any problems that the police do identify. I do want to do that work and if there’s anything else we can do, where the police tell us that would be useful for them, then I am more than happy to go down that particular route.

I don’t agree with Siân Gwenllian about the fines that we can impose on those who don’t comply with the rules. We can’t simply do that for one form of non-compliance. For me, I haven’t seen any evidence that suggests that the levels here in Wales are not effective, and I don’t think that the case has been made to change what we have in place at the moment in that area.

I'm very grateful to the First Minister for his statement and for his openness in answering these questions. I'd like to return to the subject of procurement, if that's possible. We saw yesterday the absolute chaos of a Permanent Secretary at the Foreign Office being forced to write to a House of Commons select committee to retract evidence that he'd given yesterday afternoon to that same committee on the issue of EU procurement of ventilators. We saw last night reports on the BBC on Newsnight that the privatisation of the health service in England has led to real issues and problems with the procurement of PPE. So, I'd like to ask the First Minister to what extent and whether he believes the chaos that we're seeing across the border in England is having a detrimental effect on the ability of the Welsh Government to procure both the equipment needed for hospitals and personal protection equipment needed for our front-line staff to deliver care for people, and whether the problems being faced by the UK Government in England are causing him difficulties in ensuring that we're able to provide for people and staff working on the front line in Wales.

Rwy'n ddiolchgar iawn i'r Prif Weinidog am ei ddatganiad ac am ei ffordd agored o ateb y cwestiynau hyn. Hoffwn ddychwelyd at bwnc caffael, os caf. Gwelsom anhrefn llwyr ddoe wrth i'r Ysgrifennydd Parhaol yn y Swyddfa Dramor gael ei orfodi i ysgrifennu at bwyllgor dethol yn Nhŷ’r Cyffredin i dynnu tystiolaeth, a roddodd brynhawn ddoe i’r un pwyllgor ar fater caffael peiriannau anadlu’r UE, yn ôl. Gwelsom adroddiadau neithiwr ar y BBC ar Newsnight fod preifateiddio'r gwasanaeth iechyd yn Lloegr wedi arwain at broblemau go iawn gyda chaffael cyfarpar diogelu personol. Felly, hoffwn ofyn i'r Prif Weinidog i ba raddau y mae’n credu bod yr anhrefn a welwn dros y ffin yn Lloegr yn cael effaith niweidiol ar allu Llywodraeth Cymru i gaffael y cyfarpar sydd ei angen ar ysbytai a’r cyfarpar diogelu personol sydd ei angen ar ein staff rheng flaen i ddarparu gofal i bobl, ac a yw'r problemau sy'n wynebu Llywodraeth y DU yn Lloegr yn achosi anawsterau iddo o ran sicrhau y gallwn ddarparu ar gyfer pobl a staff sy'n gweithio ar y rheng flaen yng Nghymru.

Llywydd, I want to distinguish between two things. On the one hand, we are working very closely with colleagues right across the United Kingdom on procurement. Procuring as a UK is to our advantage because of the extra strength that gives you in the market, and we're working on mutual aid as well. We have recently provided mutual aid to Northern Ireland in a supply of goods that they were about to run out of, and we've had help from Scotland to strengthen our stocks in areas where we were running low.

So, I'm still completely committed to that way of doing things. The contrast I would make, however, is one that Alun Davies points to. Here in Wales, we still have a national health service—a system that is planned, a system that is easy enough for people to be able to operate where common rules happen in all places. The struggle that our colleagues in England face is an atomised service, where people have been encouraged to compete with one another rather than to collaborate with one another. And just at the point when collaboration and working together has to be the way through, they are having to battle the system they now have and the culture that they have created in a way that we simply don't have to here in Wales. 

Lywydd, hoffwn wahaniaethu rhwng dau beth. Ar y naill law, rydym yn gweithio'n agos iawn gyda swyddogion cyfatebol ledled y Deyrnas Unedig ar gaffael. Mae caffael fel y DU yn fanteisiol i ni oherwydd y cryfder ychwanegol y mae hynny’n ei roi i chi yn y farchnad, ac rydym yn gweithio ar gyd-gymorth hefyd. Yn ddiweddar, rydym wedi darparu cyd-gymorth i Ogledd Iwerddon drwy gyflenwi nwyddau a oedd ar fin dod i ben yno, ac rydym wedi cael cymorth gan yr Alban i gryfhau ein stociau mewn meysydd lle roeddem yn brin.

Felly, rwy'n dal yn gwbl ymrwymedig i'r ffordd honno o wneud pethau. Y cyferbyniad y buaswn yn ei wneud, fodd bynnag, yw’r un y mae Alun Davies yn tynnu sylw ato. Yma yng Nghymru, mae gennym wasanaeth iechyd gwladol o hyd—system sydd wedi'i chynllunio, system sy'n ddigon hawdd i bobl allu ei gweithredu lle mae rheolau cyffredin ar waith ym mhob man. Y frwydr y mae ein swyddogion cyfatebol yn Lloegr yn ei hwynebu yw gwasanaeth tameidiog, lle mae pobl wedi cael eu hannog i gystadlu yn erbyn ei gilydd yn hytrach na chydweithio. Ac ar adeg pan fo'n rhaid cydweithredu a chydweithio, maent yn gorfod brwydro yn erbyn y system sydd ganddynt bellach a'r diwylliant y maent wedi'i greu mewn ffordd nad oes yn rhaid i ni yma yng Nghymru.


First Minister, some arrests have been made in connection with the deliberate setting of mountain fires in the Rhondda on Monday evening. People locally are very angry as these fires pose a risk to life. We've got mountain rangers, and I'm sure that people will support those with encouragement. Can you facilitate community involvement in mountain fire prevention? If you don't, I'm concerned that people may take matters into their own hands, such is the level of anger. Can you also tell us what can be done from a Government perspective in terms of messaging to educate people about about the seriousness of setting grass fires, particularly in the time that we're in now?

I wanted to ask about supermarkets as well, and the specialised slots. After a delay, supermarkets now have finally received the information from your Government about customers in the shielded group, so that they can be prioritised for home delivery. So, why are so many people still unable to get those priority slots? Some supermarkets tell me that they're meeting demand, but I'm still hearing complaints from people with legitimate reasons to have a home delivery that they're still unable to secure one. So, you've mentioned that we're in this for the long haul. How can you as a Government increase the capacity of the home delivery service?

And, finally, I wanted to just ask you about key workers. I wrote to your Government earlier today to call for the extension of free public transport that is offered to NHS workers to cover all key workers that are keeping society running in these dangerous conditions. Will you actively consider this offer to recognise the contribution of all key workers, and, further to this, would the Government be prepared to consider meeting the funeral costs of key workers if they've died as a result of contracting COVID-19 as part of their work? As you are aware, funerals can cost in excess of £5,000. These people have died carrying out a public duty. I think it's the least that they deserve. 

Brif Weinidog, arestiwyd rhai pobl mewn cysylltiad â chynnau tanau mynydd yn fwriadol yn y Rhondda nos Lun. Mae'r bobl leol yn ddig iawn am fod y tanau hyn yn creu risg i fywyd. Mae gennym barcmyn mynydd, ac rwy'n siŵr y bydd pobl yn cefnogi'r rheini gydag anogaeth. A allwch chi hwyluso cyfraniad y gymuned tuag at atal tanau mynydd? Os na wnewch chi hynny, rwy'n pryderu y gall pobl fynd i'r afael â'r mater eu hunain, o ystyried lefel y dicter. A allwch chi ddweud wrthym hefyd beth y gellir ei wneud o safbwynt y Llywodraeth ar ffurf negeseuon i addysgu pobl ynghylch difrifoldeb cynnau tanau gwair, yn enwedig yn y cyfnod rydym ynddo yn awr?

Roeddwn eisiau holi am archfarchnadoedd hefyd, a'r slotiau arbennig. Ar ôl oedi, mae archfarchnadoedd o'r diwedd wedi cael y wybodaeth gan eich Llywodraeth am gwsmeriaid yn y grŵp a warchodir, fel y gellir eu blaenoriaethu ar gyfer danfoniadau i'r cartref. Felly, pam fod cymaint o bobl yn dal i fethu cael y slotiau blaenoriaethol hynny? Mae rhai archfarchnadoedd yn dweud wrthyf eu bod yn ateb y galw, ond rwy'n dal i glywed cwynion gan bobl sydd â rhesymau dilys dros gael danfoniadau i'r cartref ond eto nid ydynt yn gallu sicrhau slot. Felly, rydych wedi sôn y byddwn yn y sefyllfa hon am amser hir. Sut y gallwch chi fel Llywodraeth gynyddu capasiti'r gwasanaeth danfon i'r cartref?

Ac yn olaf, roeddwn eisiau gofyn i chi ynglŷn â gweithwyr allweddol. Ysgrifennais at eich Llywodraeth yn gynharach heddiw i alw am ymestyn yr hawl i drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus am ddim a gynigir i weithwyr y GIG i gynnwys yr holl weithwyr allweddol sy'n cynnal ein cymdeithas yn yr amgylchiadau peryglus hyn. A wnewch chi ystyried y cynnig hwn i gydnabod cyfraniad pob gweithiwr allweddol, ac yn ychwanegol at hynny, a fyddai'r Llywodraeth yn barod i ystyried talu costau angladdol gweithwyr allweddol os ydynt wedi marw o ganlyniad i ddal COVID-19 yn rhan o'u gwaith? Fel y gwyddoch, gall angladdau gostio mwy na £5,000. Mae'r bobl hyn wedi marw wrth gyflawni dyletswydd gyhoeddus. Rwy'n credu eu bod fan lleiaf yn haeddu hynny.  

Llywydd, thanks to Leanne Wood for those questions. I entirely share her concerns about grass fires. We work very hard with the fire and rescue service. I'll make sure that we convey to them the point that she makes about community involvement, because that's a service we would have to rely on to carry that out. But, at a time when we need the fire and rescue service to be assisting our ambulance service, with everything that they are assisting us with in the coronavirus crisis, it is just completely wrong that people are having to deal with events that need never have happened. We've said in the past, as you know—it's often been said that it's young people, it's children who do these things—there is evidence that these are adults who are causing these grass fires, people who really ought to know better. And I thank Leanne for that point about community involvement, and we'll make sure that the fire and rescue service get that message.

On supermarkets, let me just be clear: there was no delay in getting supermarkets the information. There was a considerable delay in some supermarkets taking down off their websites the notice that said they were waiting for the information. They'd had the information for several days, many days in some cases, before they managed to take that notice down. They'd had that information from us. But again, to be clear, it is people in the shielded group—it's not that wider group of people who have other vulnerabilities who are being prioritised through the agreement that we have with the supermarkets, and that's exactly the same in every other part of the United Kingdom. So, all the supermarkets have the data of who are in the shielded group. Where people are being added to the shielded group, as they are because of general practitioners adding names, supermarkets are getting that additional information as well. Lesley Griffiths meets the supermarkets on a weekly basis. They, too, want to extend the number of slots they have available, but increasing their capacity is something that just can't be turned on overnight.

Where there are people who cannot get home delivery via the supermarkets, and where they have a real need, because they can't rely on anybody else to do it for them, that's where local authorities have been stepping in with the volunteers that we referred to earlier. And where any Assembly Member has an individual or a family not able to access the shielded slots for supermarkets but still in need of assistance, it's to the hubs that local authorities have created that we should go, and we've got real evidence of them being able to mobilise help where it is needed.

And as for key workers, I think Leanne said that she'd written today, so I will look out for her letter, and then respond when I've had a chance to consider what she has said in it.

Lywydd, diolch i Leanne Wood am y cwestiynau hynny. Rwy'n rhannu ei phryderon ynglŷn â thanau gwair yn llwyr. Rydym yn gweithio'n galed iawn gyda'r gwasanaeth tân ac achub. Byddaf yn sicrhau ein bod yn cyfleu'r pwynt a wna am gynnwys y gymuned, oherwydd mae hwnnw'n wasanaeth y byddai'n rhaid i ni ddibynnu arno i gyflawni hynny. Ond ar adeg pan ydym angen i'r gwasanaeth tân ac achub fod yno i gynorthwyo ein gwasanaeth ambiwlans, gyda'r holl gymorth y maent yn ei roi i ni yn ystod yr argyfwng coronafeirws, mae'n gwbl anghywir fod pobl yn gorfod ymdrin â digwyddiadau nad oes angen iddynt fod wedi digwydd. Rydym wedi dweud yn y gorffennol, fel y gwyddoch—dywedir yn aml mai pobl ifanc a phlant sy'n gwneud y pethau hyn—mae tystiolaeth yn dangos mai oedolion yw'r rhai sy'n achosi'r tanau gwair hyn, pobl a ddylai wybod yn well. A diolch i Leanne am y pwynt ynglŷn â chyfraniad y gymuned, a byddwn yn sicrhau bod y gwasanaeth tân ac achub yn cael y neges honno.

O ran archfarchnadoedd, gadewch imi fod yn glir: ni fu oedi cyn rhoi'r wybodaeth i archfarchnadoedd. Bu cryn oedi cyn i rai archfarchnadoedd dynnu'r hysbysiad a ddywedai eu bod yn aros am y wybodaeth oddi ar eu gwefannau. Roeddent wedi cael y wybodaeth ers sawl diwrnod, llawer o ddiwrnodau mewn rhai achosion, cyn iddynt lwyddo i dynnu'r hysbysiad hwnnw oddi ar eu gwefannau. Roeddent wedi cael y wybodaeth honno gennym. Ond eto, i fod yn glir, pobl yn y grŵp a warchodir yw'r rhain—nid y grŵp ehangach o bobl sy'n agored i niwed am resymau eraill ac sy'n cael blaenoriaeth drwy'r cytundeb sydd gennym â'r archfarchnadoedd, ac mae hynny'n wir ym mhob rhan arall o'r Deyrnas Unedig. Felly, mae gan yr holl archfarchnadoedd y data sy'n dweud pwy sydd yn y grŵp a warchodir. Pan gaiff pobl eu hychwanegu at y grŵp a warchodir, fel sy'n digwydd wrth i feddygon teulu ychwanegu enwau, mae archfarchnadoedd yn cael y wybodaeth ychwanegol honno hefyd. Mae Lesley Griffiths yn cyfarfod â'r archfarchnadoedd bob wythnos. Maent hwy, hefyd, eisiau ymestyn nifer y slotiau sydd ar gael ganddynt, ond ni ellir gwneud hynny dros nos.

Os nad yw pobl yn gallu cael nwyddau wedi eu danfon i'w cartrefi drwy'r archfarchnadoedd, a lle mae gwirioneddol angen gwneud hynny am na allant ddibynnu ar unrhyw un arall i wneud hynny drostynt, mae awdurdodau lleol wedi bod yn camu i'r adwy gyda'r gwirfoddolwyr y cyfeiriwyd atynt yn gynharach. Os oes gan unrhyw Aelod Cynulliad unigolyn neu deulu nad ydynt yn gallu cael mynediad at y slotiau a warchodir ar gyfer archfarchnadoedd ond sy'n dal i fod angen cymorth, dylem droi at yr hybiau a grëwyd gan awdurdodau lleol, ac mae gennym dystiolaeth dda eu bod yn gallu trefnu cymorth lle mae ei angen.

Ac o ran gweithwyr allweddol, rwy'n credu bod Leanne wedi dweud ei bod wedi ysgrifennu heddiw, felly fe arhosaf am ei llythyr, ac ymateb pan fyddaf wedi cael cyfle i ystyried yr hyn y mae wedi'i ddweud ynddo.

3. Datganiad gan y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol: Coronafeirws (COVID-19)
3. Statement by the Minister for Health and Social Services: Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Yr eitem nesaf, felly, yw'r datganiad gan y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol, a dwi'n galw ar y Gweinidog i wneud ei ddatganiad—Vaughan Gething.

The next item, therefore, is the statement by the Minister for Health and Social Services, and I call on the Minister to make his statement—Vaughan Gething.

Thank you, Llywydd. I am going to give Members an update on a range of issues related to our coronavirus response from across the health and social care system.

We continue to maintain supply of personal protective equipment to our front-line health and social care workers. We're working on a Wales and UK basis to secure more robust supply arrangements going forward. As you've heard earlier from the First Minister, as of last week we had issued more than 16.2 million items of PPE to the NHS and local authorities, for distribution in social care, from our pandemic NHS stores. That pandemic stock is part of the 48.3 million items of PPE we have issued in Wales since 9 March. Supplies have been distributed to hospitals, general practice, the Welsh ambulance service, pharmacies, and all local authorities for onwards transmission into social care. And I do want to recognise the significant work that has been undertaken to establish new structures to deliver PPE from our national supplies to our vital services, including our independent sector providers in social care. I’d like to extend my genuine thanks to all involved—our health and local authority partners, social care providers, and local resilience forum co-ordinators.

In any operation of this scale, there will be times where things don’t work exactly as we would like. And I am acutely conscious of the stress and anxiety felt by our front-line staff; they want to know that they are sure that vital equipment will be available when they need it. And trade unions have been key in identifying those issues in real time at workplace level, for employers to respond quickly to shortages, which enables us to improve and refine the process and what that means to allow our staff to do their work in caring for the public.

The worldwide demand for PPE is creating an insecure and unpredictable market. As we know, some countries have taken the decision to stop the export of PPE supplies, and other supply routes have experienced significant delays. And the recent very public example of the delay of an order for the UK from Turkey is perhaps the most obvious and most public example of that.

We are, though, taking a multifaceted approach here in Wales to ensure that we do manage to provide our ongoing supply of PPE in Wales, and that includes working with other home nations across the UK to pool and share our procurement efforts to bring in vital new stocks, our usual Welsh arrangements, the procurement of additional PPE supplies using the National Procurement Service, and our work with Welsh businesses to produce more PPE here in Wales.

Diolch ichi, Lywydd. Rwyf am roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i'r Aelodau am amrywiaeth o faterion sy'n ymwneud â'n hymateb i'r coronafeirws o bob rhan o'r system iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol.

Rydym yn parhau i gynnal cyflenwad o gyfarpar diogelu personol i'n gweithwyr iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol ar y rheng flaen. Rydym yn gweithio ar sail Cymru a'r DU i sicrhau trefniadau cyflenwi mwy cadarn yn y dyfodol. Fel y clywsoch yn gynharach gan y Prif Weinidog, hyd at yr wythnos ddiwethaf, roeddem wedi darparu dros 16.2 miliwn o eitemau o gyfarpar diogelu personol i'r GIG ac i awdurdodau lleol, i'w dosbarthu ym maes gofal cymdeithasol, o storfeydd pandemig ein GIG. Mae'r stoc pandemig hwnnw yn rhan o'r 48.3 miliwn o eitemau cyfarpar diogelu personol a ddosbarthwyd gennym yng Nghymru ers 9 Mawrth. Mae cyflenwadau wedi'u dosbarthu i ysbytai, ymarfer cyffredinol, gwasanaeth ambiwlans Cymru, fferyllfeydd, a phob awdurdod lleol i'w trosglwyddo ymlaen i ofal cymdeithasol. Ac rwyf eisiau cydnabod y gwaith sylweddol sydd wedi'i wneud i sefydlu strwythurau newydd i ddarparu cyfarpar diogelu personol o'n cyflenwadau cenedlaethol i'n gwasanaethau hanfodol, gan gynnwys ein darparwyr sector annibynnol ym maes gofal cymdeithasol. Hoffwn ddiolch yn ddiffuant i bawb sydd wedi chwarae rhan yn hyn—ein partneriaid iechyd ac awdurdod lleol, darparwyr gofal cymdeithasol a chydgysylltwyr fforymau lleol Cymru gydnerth.

Mewn unrhyw waith ar y raddfa hon, bydd yna adegau lle na fydd pethau'n gweithio'n union fel y byddem yn ei hoffi. Ac rwy'n ymwybodol iawn o'r straen a'r pryder a deimlir gan ein staff rheng flaen; maent eisiau bod yn siŵr y bydd offer hanfodol ar gael pan fydd ei angen. Ac mae undebau llafur wedi bod yn allweddol yn nodi'r materion hynny mewn amser real ar lefel y gweithle, er mwyn i gyflogwyr ymateb yn gyflym i brinder, sy'n ein galluogi i wella a mireinio'r broses a beth y mae hynny'n ei olygu i ganiatáu i'n staff wneud eu gwaith a gofalu am y cyhoedd.

Mae'r galw byd-eang am gyfarpar diogelu personol yn creu marchnad anniogel ac anrhagweladwy. Fel y gwyddom, mae rhai gwledydd wedi penderfynu atal cyflenwadau cyfarpar diogelu personol rhag cael eu hallforio, ac mae llwybrau cyflenwi eraill wedi wynebu oedi sylweddol. Ac mae'n bosibl mai'r enghraifft amlycaf a mwyaf cyhoeddus yw'r oedi a brofodd y DU gydag archeb o Dwrci yn ddiweddar.

Fodd bynnag, rydym yn mabwysiadu ymagwedd amlweddog yma yng Nghymru i sicrhau ein bod yn llwyddo i ddarparu ein cyflenwad parhaus o gyfarpar diogelu personol yng Nghymru, ac mae hynny'n cynnwys gweithio gyda'r gwledydd eraill yn y DU i gyfuno a rhannu ein hymdrechion caffael i ddod â stociau newydd hanfodol i mewn, ein trefniadau arferol yng Nghymru, caffael cyflenwadau ychwanegol o gyfarpar diogelu personol gan ddefnyddio'r Gwasanaeth Caffael Cenedlaethol, a'n gwaith gyda busnesau Cymru i gynhyrchu mwy o gyfarpar diogelu personol yma yng Nghymru.

In addition to working jointly with Northern Ireland, Scotland and England, we are actively mobilising industry in Wales to supplement back to those UK-wide supply routes through innovation and new manufacturing.

As you know, the First Minister recently called on Welsh businesses and manufacturers to help produce a Welsh supply of PPE to support our front-line health and social care staff. The Life Sciences Hub Wales is working with Welsh industry to develop, refine and deliver those ideas. And our approach intends to maximise all the opportunities that are available to us to recognise the scale of demand and the very challenging global market that we are operating and competing within. 

We have, though, had a tremendous response from Welsh companies so far. In North Wales, we have Brodwaith in Anglesey, who are making 2,000 scrubs a months. We also have Worksafe Workwear in Ruthin, who are producing over 2,000 scrubs a month.  One of those companies used to make pyjamas and the other used to make bags. They are good examples of how companies have adapted their processes in a matter of weeks to produce the equipment that we need—in this case, scrubs. 

We also have high-profile examples of the Royal Mint and the Rototherm Group, who are making face visors and shields that are being worn by healthcare staff. And the gin distillery In The Welsh Wind is making WHO-approved hand sanitiser. I really have been struck by the level of innovation and support that has come from all parts of Wales.

The demand for PPE will continue to be well above normal for the foreseeable future. The actions that we're taking in Wales are all directed at ensuring the supply of PPE to our staff who need it to continue to work and to care for the public safely. It is of course important that the guidelines on PPE are followed properly and that PPE, of course, is used in accordance with that guidance by the staff who need it.

On testing—I know there have been comments in the First Minister's statement and in questions—on 15 April, I commissioned a rapid review that focused on the key elements of our plan for testing critical workers. That included our testing capacity, access to testing, and the testing referral and results process. Following the review, I can confirm that our current testing capacity is now 1,800 tests a day. I have made £50 million of Welsh Government funding available to bring in further equipment, chemical reagents and other activity to increase our testing capacity. We do now have mass drive-in testing centres in operation in Cardiff and Newport and new testing infrastructure is planned for north and south Wales to be in place shortly—within the next fortnight, as I understand it today—to boost the existing testing arrangements already in place. We're piloting a web-based booking platform this week, and I've removed the ceiling on referrals per local authority, and I've also published a new critical worker policy that extends the number of groups that can now be tested. We're now testing all symptomatic care home residents and all care home residents who are returning from hospital. All symptomatic care home workers themselves can now also be referred for testing.

I remain confident, following discussions with our chief scientific adviser on health, that our plan sets out the right approach to ensure we are delivering the right testing, when and where it is needed, both in the short and the longer terms. So, I'm confident at this point in time that we're testing the right people.

On a different subject, I do understand that it's important that we recognise and then try to understand why, across the UK, we're seeing a disproportionate number of people from black, asian and minority ethnic community backgrounds who have become critically ill as a result of COVID-19.

Yesterday, I confirmed that we in Wales would be contributing to the review that is being led by Public Health England to explore the role of pre-existing medical conditions. Welsh Government officials will mobilise efforts to establish whether there are any identifiable factors that could help to inform decisions on whether we need to give different public advice regarding comorbidities, isolation, shielding and personal protective equipment in relation to people from black, asian and minority ethnic community backgrounds. We will be working with representatives from our black, asian and minority ethnic communities here in Wales to help shape that work going forward.

Now, on children’s social care and safeguarding, I know there are major concerns not just for the Welsh Government, but for other key stakeholders. We understand that services are under pressure, and, at the same time, we know that the emergency is placing a great strain on all those involved in the lives of vulnerable children. To support local authority social services departments and partners in addressing those challenges, I'm pleased to confirm that the Welsh Government has now published operational guidance for children’s social services. That's been developed through close working with stakeholders and it sets out measures that should be put in place to minimise the impact of the pandemic; to help local authorities and their partners to continue to provide effective support to vulnerable, at-risk and care-experienced children, whilst maintaining their statutory duties.

Safeguarding remains everyone’s responsibility. I am concerned about the reduction in referrals and reports of concern for adults and children at risk of harm, abuse or neglect during the coronavirus outbreak. So, I want to remind everyone that social services departments are operating as normal and are able to respond to concerns that people have. So, if you feel that anyone, whether an adult or a child, may be at risk of abuse, harm or neglect, you can report that by dialling 101 or contacting the local authority social services department. Help is available through the Live Fear Free helpline for anyone who has concerns regarding anyone who may be experiencing domestic abuse or sexual violence.

And, finally, I ask the public not to be complacent. We have significantly increased NHS capacity and taken extraordinary steps to change the way that we live our lives. That has undoubtedly stopped a much wider and more aggressive spread of coronavirus here in Wales. The action that we are all taking is saving lives. There is, however, much more for us all to do for some time to come.

Yn ogystal â gweithio ar y cyd â Gogledd Iwerddon, yr Alban a Lloegr, rydym wrthi'n ysgogi diwydiant yng Nghymru i ychwanegu at y llwybrau cyflenwi hynny ledled y DU drwy arloesedd a gweithgynhyrchu newydd.

Fel y gwyddoch, galwodd y Prif Weinidog yn ddiweddar ar fusnesau a gwneuthurwyr o Gymru i helpu i gynhyrchu cyflenwad Cymreig o gyfarpar diogelu personol i gefnogi ein staff iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol ar y rheng flaen. Mae Hwb Gwyddorau Bywyd Cymru yn gweithio gyda diwydiant Cymru i ddatblygu, mireinio a chyflwyno'r syniadau hynny. Ac mae ein dull o weithredu yn bwriadu manteisio i'r eithaf ar yr holl gyfleoedd sydd ar gael i ni er mwyn cydnabod maint y galw a'r farchnad fyd-eang heriol iawn rydym yn gweithredu ac yn cystadlu ynddi.  

Fodd bynnag, rydym wedi cael ymateb gwych gan gwmnïau o Gymru hyd yma. Yng ngogledd Cymru, mae gennym Brodwaith ar Ynys Môn, sy'n gwneud 2,000 o wisgoedd i weithwyr ysbytai bob mis. Hefyd mae gennym Worksafe Workwear yn Rhuthun, sy'n cynhyrchu dros 2,000 o wisgoedd i weithwyr ysbytai bob mis. Roedd un o'r cwmnïau hynny'n arfer gwneud pyjamas a'r llall yn arfer gwneud bagiau. Maent yn enghreifftiau da o'r modd y mae cwmnïau wedi addasu eu prosesau mewn ychydig wythnosau i gynhyrchu'r offer rydym ei angen—dillad i weithwyr ysbytai yn yr achos hwn.  

Mae gennym hefyd enghreifftiau amlwg iawn o'r Bathdy Brenhinol a Rototherm Group, sy'n gwneud y feisorau a'r tariannau wyneb sy'n cael eu gwisgo gan staff gofal iechyd. Ac mae distyllfa jin In The Welsh Wind yn gwneud diheintydd llaw a gymeradwywyd gan Sefydliad Iechyd y Byd. Mae lefel yr arloesedd a'r cymorth sydd wedi dod o bob rhan o Gymru wedi gwneud argraff fawr arnaf.

Bydd y galw am gyfarpar diogelu personol yn parhau i fod yn llawer uwch na'r arfer am y dyfodol rhagweladwy. Mae'r holl gamau rydym yn eu cymryd yng Nghymru wedi'u hanelu at sicrhau cyflenwad o gyfarpar diogelu personol i'n staff sydd ei angen i barhau i weithio ac i ofalu am y cyhoedd yn ddiogel. Wrth gwrs, mae'n bwysig fod y canllawiau ar gyfarpar diogelu personol yn cael eu dilyn yn briodol a bod y staff sydd angen y cyfarpar diogelu personol hwnnw, wrth gwrs, yn ei ddefnyddio'n unol â'r canllawiau hynny.

Ar gynnal profion—gwn fod sylwadau wedi cael eu gwneud yn natganiad y Prif Weinidog ac mewn cwestiynau—ar 15 Ebrill, comisiynais adolygiad cyflym a oedd yn canolbwyntio ar elfennau allweddol ein cynllun ar gyfer profi gweithwyr hanfodol. Roedd hwnnw'n cynnwys ein capasiti profi, mynediad at brofion, ynghyd â'r broses atgyfeirio a chanlyniadau. Yn dilyn yr adolygiad, gallaf gadarnhau bod ein capasiti profi yn 1,800 o brofion y dydd bellach. Rwyf wedi sicrhau bod £50 miliwn o arian Llywodraeth Cymru ar gael i gyflwyno rhagor o offer, adweithyddion cemegol ac adnoddau eraill i gynyddu ein capasiti profi. Bellach, mae gennym ganolfannau profi mawr yn weithredol yng Nghaerdydd a Chasnewydd a bwriedir i seilwaith profi newydd ar gyfer gogledd a de Cymru fod ar waith yn fuan—o fewn y pythefnos nesaf, yn ôl yr hyn a ddeallaf heddiw—i roi hwb i'r trefniadau profi presennol sydd eisoes ar waith. Rydym yn treialu platfform archebu ar y we yr wythnos hon, ac rwyf wedi dileu'r terfyn ar atgyfeiriadau gan awdurdodau lleol, ac rwyf hefyd wedi cyhoeddi polisi gweithwyr hanfodol newydd sy'n ymestyn nifer y grwpiau y gellir eu profi yn awr. Rydym bellach yn profi holl breswylwyr cartrefi gofal sy'n dangos symptomau a phob preswylydd cartref gofal sy'n dychwelyd o'r ysbyty. Gellir atgyfeirio pob aelod o staff cartrefi gofal sy'n dangos symptomau i gael profion hefyd yn awr.

Rwy'n parhau i fod yn hyderus, yn dilyn trafodaethau gyda'n prif gynghorydd gwyddonol ar iechyd, fod ein cynllun yn nodi'r dull cywir o sicrhau ein bod yn darparu'r profion cywir ar yr adeg gywir lle mae eu hangen yn y tymor byr a'r tymor hwy. Felly, rwy'n hyderus ar y pwynt hwn ein bod yn profi'r bobl iawn.

Ar bwnc gwahanol, rwy'n deall ei bod yn bwysig ein bod yn cydnabod ac yna'n ceisio deall, ar draws y DU, pam ein bod yn gweld nifer anghymesur o bobl o gymunedau du, Asiaidd a lleiafrifoedd ethnig sydd wedi mynd yn ddifrifol wael o ganlyniad i Covid-19.

Ddoe, cadarnheais y byddem ni yng Nghymru yn cyfrannu at yr adolygiad sy'n cael ei arwain gan Public Health England i archwilio rôl cyflyrau meddygol sy'n bodoli eisoes. Bydd swyddogion Llywodraeth Cymru yn ymdrechu i sefydlu a oes unrhyw ffactorau penodol a allai helpu i lywio penderfyniadau ynglŷn â'r angen i ni roi cyngor cyhoeddus gwahanol ynghylch cydafiachedd, ynysu, gwarchod a chyfarpar diogelu personol mewn perthynas â phobl o gymunedau du, Asiaidd a lleiafrifoedd ethnig. Byddwn yn gweithio gyda chynrychiolwyr o'n cymunedau du, Asiaidd a lleiafrifoedd ethnig yma yng Nghymru i helpu i lunio'r gwaith hwnnw wrth symud ymlaen.

Nawr, ar ofal cymdeithasol a diogelu plant, rwy'n gwybod bod pryderon mawr, nid yn unig gan Lywodraeth Cymru, ond gan randdeiliaid allweddol eraill. Rydym yn deall bod gwasanaethau o dan bwysau, ac ar yr un pryd, gwyddom fod yr argyfwng yn rhoi straen mawr ar bawb sy'n rhan o fywydau plant agored i niwed. Er mwyn cefnogi adrannau gwasanaethau cymdeithasol awdurdodau lleol a'u partneriaid i fynd i'r afael â'r heriau hynny, rwy'n falch o gadarnhau bod Llywodraeth Cymru bellach wedi cyhoeddi canllawiau gweithredol ar gyfer gwasanaethau cymdeithasol plant. Cawsant eu datblygu drwy weithio'n agos gyda rhanddeiliaid ac maent yn nodi mesurau y dylid eu rhoi ar waith i leihau effaith y pandemig; i helpu awdurdodau lleol a'u partneriaid i barhau i ddarparu cymorth effeithiol i blant sy'n agored i niwed, sydd mewn perygl neu sydd wedi cael profiad o ofal, tra'n cynnal eu dyletswyddau statudol.

Mae diogelu yn parhau i fod yn gyfrifoldeb i bawb. Rwy'n bryderus am y gostyngiad yn nifer yr atgyfeiriadau a'r adroddiadau o bryder am oedolion a phlant sydd mewn perygl o gael eu niweidio, eu cam-drin neu eu hesgeuluso yn ystod pandemig y coronafeirws. Felly, rwyf eisiau atgoffa pawb fod adrannau gwasanaethau cymdeithasol yn gweithredu yn ôl yr arfer a'u bod yn gallu ymateb i bryderon sydd gan bobl. Felly, os ydych yn teimlo y gall unrhyw un, boed yn oedolyn neu'n blentyn, fod mewn perygl o gael ei gam-drin, ei niweidio neu ei esgeuluso, gallwch roi gwybod drwy ffonio 101 neu gysylltu ag adran gwasanaethau cymdeithasol yr awdurdod lleol. Mae cymorth ar gael drwy linell gymorth Byw Heb Ofn i unrhyw un sydd â phryderon ynglŷn ag unrhyw un a allai fod yn dioddef cam-drin domestig neu drais rhywiol.

Ac yn olaf, rwy'n gofyn i'r cyhoedd beidio â llaesu dwylo. Rydym wedi cynyddu capasiti'r GIG yn sylweddol ac wedi cymryd camau eithriadol i newid y ffordd rydym yn byw ein bywydau. Nid oes amheuaeth fod hynny wedi atal lledaeniad llawer ehangach a mwy ffyrnig o goronafeirws yma yng Nghymru. Mae'r camau rydym i gyd yn eu cymryd yn achub bywydau. Fodd bynnag, mae llawer mwy i bawb ohonom ei wneud am beth amser i ddod.


Good afternoon, Minister. Thank you very much indeed for your statement. I would like to start by thanking not just all our health services and our community services, but everybody who's helping Wales to try to contain and deal with this dreadful situation that we're in. I'd also like to express my condolences to all the people who have lost those that they have loved so much over these last few awful weeks. I'd also like to put on record that I am grateful for our discussions on a regular basis, and I have found them very helpful in both understanding what's going on and in being able to scrutinise the Government. 

Turning to your statement, I'm delighted that you feel that there is improvement being made on the subject of personal protective equipment and getting it to the right place at the right time and to the right people. Can you please confirm, though, how much extra the Welsh Government is procuring outside of the four-nation buying strategy? I am completely of the same opinion that we should be in the four-nation buying strategy. There's obviously going to be a PPE-wide shortage in the world for many, many months to come, and it makes sense to have that consolidated buying power, but of course, there are many other strands that we can take advantage of. So, are you in a position to actually tell us a little bit more about the procurement of additional PPE supplies using the National Procurement Service that you've identified within your statement? 

I do also want to thank and welcome the great news that so many Welsh companies have turned their hand to helping us all in this very difficult time. 

Now, I'd like to turn to the testing part of your statement, Minister. I am concerned, deeply concerned, about the decision to drop the targets for testing. As the First Minister said in his contribution a little bit earlier on—his statement—we're in this for the long haul, and I think that this is such an important area. And I think you can tell it's an important area, because it's been raised today by so many other people. I think it is vital that if we are to emerge from lockdown with the chances of a second or third spike being really suppressed, we need to have a very strong testing regime.

I note your rapid review—I have a copy of it here, I've read it. To be frank, it doesn't say an awful lot more than we all knew and have known for these past few weeks, it's just taken time to produce it. I am disappointed that we're only up to 1,800 tests a day, down from the promised 9,000 when we first started all this. I do welcome the web-based booking platform, but I want to reiterate my call for there to be an identifiable lead who can deliver on a Wales testing programme, not just today, but in the months to come. Someone—and a team—with logistics and delivery success and experience, because we not only need point-of-care testing and regional testing centres, but we need those rapid results. In west Wales and north Wales, I'm still being told that those tests are coming back too late. We're going to be looking at at-home kits, we're going to need contact tracers, we're going to need to build software, we're going to have to look at the modelling that we’re going to need to do in order to get us out of lockdown, and that needs a dedicated team.

A couple of days ago, you said that testing was your No. 1 priority, the next day you said that PPE was your No. 1 priority. I absolutely recognise that you're being torn in all sorts of directions with competing priorities. I urge you, Minister, to considering giving this to a team that can really focus on it and deliver it, because it's going to be such a vital strategy for us to move forward.

I just want to deal with two other areas that I found regrettable were not in your statement. The first is around the fact that some three weeks ago, health trusts in England were given a reassurance that they could have their current debts written off to ensure that they could fully focus on fighting COVID-19. But here, there's no similar pledge, and I noticed the responses in yesterday's press conference when you were very keen to sort of say, 'Well, we don't really know what kind of money we're getting. We're not quite sure.' I can be clear—we’ve got £2 billion coming this year as a COVID fund; on top of that, we've got another £1.4 billion of consequentials. I noted in your written answer to my question, you said that you don't charge interest on the debt. Yes, absolutely, and you cite Cardiff and Vale as an example of a health board that's come out of debt, but let's be very clear, that board was under targeted intervention from Welsh Government for two and a half years, and it achieved that in pre-COVID times. We're in a different place now. We have health boards that, between them, owe £100 million of Welsh Government debt, and they still are also working on an assumption that all the work that they're doing now, Welsh Government will pick up the cost on. Will you please lay out, very clearly, the financial support that you intend to offer to these health boards?

My final set of questions, actually, is around the data that we're currently collecting. Data, of course, is always one of those things where you can interpret it in a great many ways, and different countries are measuring data in very different ways. But I am concerned that recent data sets that have come out show such enormous disparities, health Minister, between health boards in terms of numbers of people who have died in hospital, numbers of people who have died in care homes, in hospices, or even in their own homes. And I think that, without us really understanding that data, we cannot start to build up a significant picture of how the COVID-19 process is working; the kinds of people—when, where why, how—vital questions to understand anything to really get to grips with what's happened and what we need to do in future. So, will you please review how we're collectinig our data and how we're using it? So, one quick example: we're saying that, in Aneurin Bevan, only about 10 to 12 people died of COVID in care homes compared to the neighbouring health board where the number is almost three times higher. Now, it could be that they got it in a care home, they were taken to hospital, and that is, sadly, where they died. But that is very important data to understand, because then we know that the outbreak was actually in the care home and we can take those kinds of measures. So, will you please review that?

I obviously have a number of questions, but I can see that the Llywydd will want to hear other people, rightly, and so I'm going to stop there. Once again, I would like to say thank you very much for the information you do share on a regular basis.

Prynhawn da, Weinidog. Diolch yn fawr iawn am eich datganiad. Hoffwn ddechrau drwy ddiolch nid yn unig i'n holl wasanaethau iechyd a'n gwasanaethau cymunedol, ond i bawb sy'n helpu Cymru i geisio rheoli ac ymdopi â'r sefyllfa erchyll hon rydym ynddi. Hoffwn gydymdeimlo hefyd â'r holl bobl sydd wedi colli anwyliaid dros yr wythnosau erchyll diwethaf. Hoffwn gofnodi hefyd fy mod yn ddiolchgar am ein trafodaethau rheolaidd, ac maent wedi bod yn ddefnyddiol iawn i mi allu deall yr hyn sy'n digwydd a gallu craffu ar waith y Llywodraeth.  

Gan droi at eich datganiad, rwyf wrth fy modd eich bod yn teimlo bod gwelliant yn cael ei wneud mewn perthynas â chyfarpar diogelu personol a sicrhau ei fod yn y lle iawn, ar yr amser iawn ar gyfer y bobl iawn. A allwch chi gadarnhau, fodd bynnag, faint yn ychwanegol y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei gaffael y tu allan i strategaeth brynu'r pedair gwlad? Rwy'n rhannu'r farn yn llwyr y dylem fod yn rhan o strategaeth brynu'r pedair gwlad. Mae'n amlwg y bydd prinder cyfarpar diogelu personol yn y byd am fisoedd lawer i ddod, ac mae'n gwneud synnwyr i gael y pŵer prynu cyfunol hwnnw, ond wrth gwrs, mae nifer o lwybrau eraill y gallwn fanteisio arnynt. Felly, a ydych mewn sefyllfa i ddweud ychydig mwy wrthym ynglŷn â chaffael cyflenwadau cyfarpar diogelu personol ychwanegol gan ddefnyddio'r Gwasanaeth Caffael Cenedlaethol a nodwyd gennych yn eich datganiad?  

Rwyf hefyd eisiau diolch a chroesawu'r newyddion gwych fod cymaint o gwmnïau o Gymru wedi troi eu llaw at ein helpu yn ystod y cyfnod anodd hwn.

Nawr, hoffwn droi at y rhan o'ch datganiad sy'n ymwneud â phrofi, Weinidog. Rwy'n pryderu'n fawr am y penderfyniad i roi'r gorau i'r targedau ar gyfer profi. Fel y dywedodd y Prif Weinidog yn ei gyfraniad ychydig yn gynharach—yn ei ddatganiad—byddwn yn y sefyllfa hon am amser hir, ac rwy'n credu bod hwn yn faes hollbwysig. Ac rwy'n credu y gallwch ddweud ei fod yn faes pwysig am ei fod wedi cael sylw heddiw gan gynifer o bobl eraill. Os ydym eisiau rhoi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau symud gan gyfyngu'n helaeth ar y perygl o ail neu drydydd ymchwydd o'r clefyd, rwy'n credu ei bod hi'n hanfodol inni gael system brofi gref iawn ar waith.

Nodaf eich adolygiad cyflym—mae gennyf gopi ohono yma, rwyf wedi'i ddarllen. A bod yn onest, nid yw'n dweud llawer mwy na'r hyn roeddem i gyd yn ei wybod dros yr wythnosau diwethaf hyn, ond ei bod wedi cymryd amser i'w gynhyrchu. Rwy'n siomedig mai 1,800 prawf y dydd yn unig rydym wedi'i gyrraedd, i lawr o'r 9,000 a addawyd pan ddechreuodd hyn i gyd. Rwy'n croesawu'r platfform archebu ar y we, ond rwyf eisiau ailadrodd fy ngalwad am arweinydd adnabyddadwy a all ddarparu rhaglen brofi i Gymru, nid yn unig heddiw, ond ar gyfer y misoedd sydd i ddod. Rhywun—a thîm—sydd â logisteg, profiad a llwyddiant o ran cyflawni, oherwydd nid yn unig y mae angen profion yn y pwynt gofal a chanolfannau profi rhanbarthol arnom, rydym angen canlyniadau cyflym hefyd. Yng ngorllewin Cymru a gogledd Cymru, rwy'n dal i glywed bod canlyniadau profion yn dod yn ôl yn rhy hwyr. Byddwn yn edrych ar becynnau cartref, bydd angen olrhain cysylltiadau, bydd angen i ni adeiladu meddalwedd, bydd yn rhaid i ni edrych ar y modelu y byddwn angen ei wneud er mwyn ein galluogi i roi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau symud, ac mae angen tîm pwrpasol i wneud hynny.

Ychydig ddyddiau'n ôl, fe ddywedoch chi mai profi oedd eich prif flaenoriaeth, y diwrnod wedyn fe ddywedoch chi mai cyfarpar diogelu personol oedd eich prif flaenoriaeth. Rwy'n llwyr gydnabod eich bod yn cael eich tynnu i bob cyfeiriad gyda blaenoriaethau'n cystadlu'n erbyn ei gilydd. Rwy'n erfyn arnoch, Weinidog, i ystyried rhoi'r gwaith hwn i dîm a all ganolbwyntio arno a'i gyflawni, oherwydd bydd yn strategaeth mor hanfodol i ni allu symud ymlaen.

Hoffwn fynd i'r afael â dau faes arall na chafodd eu crybwyll yn eich datganiad er mar ofid i mi. Mae'r cyntaf yn ymwneud â'r ffaith bod ymddiriedolaethau iechyd yn Lloegr, oddeutu tair wythnos yn ôl, wedi cael sicrwydd y gellid dileu eu dyledion presennol er mwyn sicrhau y gallent ganolbwyntio'n llawn ar ymladd COVID-19. Ond yma, nid oes addewid tebyg wedi bod, a sylwais ar yr ymatebion yn y gynhadledd i'r wasg ddoe pan oeddech yn awyddus iawn i ddweud, 'Wel, nid ydym yn gwybod yn iawn pa fath o arian rydym yn ei gael. Nid ydym yn hollol siŵr.' Gallaf fod yn glir—byddwn yn cael cronfa COVID gwerth £2 biliwn eleni; ar ben hynny, mae gennym £1.4 biliwn arall o symiau canlyniadol. Yn eich ateb ysgrifenedig i fy nghwestiwn, sylwais eich bod yn dweud nad ydych yn codi llog ar y ddyled. Yn hollol, ac rydych yn cyfeirio at fwrdd iechyd Caerdydd a'r Fro fel enghraifft o fwrdd iechyd sydd bellach yn rhydd o ddyled, ond gadewch inni fod yn glir iawn, roedd y bwrdd hwnnw'n destun ymyrraeth wedi'i thargedu gan Lywodraeth Cymru am ddwy flynedd a hanner, a chyflawnodd hynny yn y cyfnod cyn-COVID. Rydym mewn sefyllfa wahanol yn awr. Mae gennym fyrddau iechyd sydd mewn dyled rhyngddynt o £100 miliwn i Lywodraeth Cymru, ac maent hwy hefyd yn dal i weithredu ar y rhagdybiaeth y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn talu am yr holl waith y maent yn ei wneud yn awr. A wnewch chi nodi, yn glir iawn, pa gymorth ariannol rydych yn bwriadu ei gynnig i'r byrddau iechyd hyn?

Mae fy set olaf o gwestiynau'n ymwneud â'r data rydym yn ei gasglu ar hyn o bryd. Mae data, wrth gwrs, bob amser yn un o'r pethau y gallwch ei ddehongli mewn llawer iawn o ffyrdd, ac mae gwahanol wledydd yn mesur data mewn ffyrdd gwahanol iawn. Ond rwy'n pryderu bod setiau data diweddar sydd wedi ymddangos yn dangos gwahaniaethau mor enfawr, Weinidog iechyd, rhwng byrddau iechyd o ran nifer y bobl sydd wedi marw yn yr ysbyty, nifer y bobl sydd wedi marw mewn cartrefi gofal, mewn hosbisau, neu hyd yn oed yn eu cartrefi eu hunain. A heb ddeall y data hwnnw'n iawn, nid wyf yn credu y gallwn ddechrau creu darlun sylweddol o sut y mae proses COVID-19 yn gweithio; y math o bobl—pryd, lle, pam, sut—cwestiynau hanfodol i ddeall unrhyw beth cyn y gellir mynd i'r afael o ddifrif â'r hyn sydd wedi digwydd a beth sydd angen inni ei wneud yn y dyfodol. Felly, a wnewch chi adolygu sut rydym yn casglu ein data a sut rydym yn ei ddefnyddio? Felly, un enghraifft gyflym: rydym yn dweud mai tua 10 i 12 o bobl yn unig a fu farw o COVID mewn cartrefi gofal ym mwrdd iechyd Aneurin Bevan o gymharu â'r bwrdd iechyd cyfagos lle mae'r nifer bron dair gwaith yn uwch. Nawr, efallai eu bod wedi'i ddal mewn cartref gofal, a'u bod wedi cael eu cludo i'r ysbyty, ac mai dyna lle buont farw yn anffodus. Ond mae hwnnw'n ddata pwysig iawn i'w ddeall, oherwydd rydym yn gwybod felly fod y clefyd wedi digwydd yn y cartref gofal mewn gwirionedd a gallwn roi mesurau ar waith yn unol â hynny. Felly, a wnewch chi adolygu hynny, os gwelwch yn dda?

Yn amlwg mae gennyf nifer o gwestiynau, ond gallaf weld y bydd y Llywydd eisiau clywed gan bobl eraill, a hynny'n briodol, ac felly rwyf am roi'r gorau iddi yn y fan honno. Unwaith eto, hoffwn ddiolch yn fawr i chi am y wybodaeth rydych yn ei rhannu'n rheolaidd.


On the final point that Angela Burns raised around data collection and uses, I'll happily review the data so we can be more certain about its accuracy and how it's then used to address areas of improvement and learning right across the system. I think it's always a fair point to think about how we review what we're doing and why and how information is used to enable us to improve.

On finance, I want to restate what I said yesterday: no local health board will be penalised for the action they have taken in responding to the once-in-a-century threat that coronavirus presents. I've spoken regularly with chairs and chief execs across the NHS family and it's not been raised with me at all that there are anxieties about how the finance will be reconciled at some point during the year, but it is just a point of accuracy that we aren't certain on the consequentials. From the headline statements that are made, we then have to translate what really arrives in Wales.

And the other point that none of us can avoid is the fact that we don't know the exact progress of coronavirus and the stress and the pressure that it will produce, not just in the significant additional resources we've put into creating a network of field hospitals, but, of course, the significant and ongoing pressure not just to provide PPE but, of course, the very real cost pressure that provides in itself and balancing that up against other activity that isn't taking place where costs aren't going but those staff are then largely redeployed. So, the financial movement around the system isn't certain, but to restate: no health board, no trust in Wales will be penalised for the activity that they are taking to keep all of us safe.

On testing, it is up to 1,800 tests today. Each Tuesday morning, I'll be publishing an update on the increase in testing and the forecast, and later today, I'll confirm a range of other figures. But in terms of the time frame for testing, my understanding is that I should be able to confirm when I've published matters today—and it's a matter of regret to me that I wasn't able to do this before today's session—that well over 90 per cent of people have their test results within two days of the test taking place. We've undertaken over 27,000 tests here in Wales, and on a per-head basis that means we're undertaking more testing than Scotland or England are. So, actually, our rate of activity compares with other UK nations. Our challenge is not just what we need in the here and now to make sure that critical workers including, of course, front-line health and social care staff, other emergency services and other partners receive that testing, but, obviously, the point that I've made repeatedly about the scale of the testing operation we need ahead of lockdown being withdrawn to make sure that we have a much more significant scale of testing and the spread and access to that testing as well.

On PPE, I just want to restate: we are far from complacent or sanguine about where we are. We know that we are running with a forecast of PPE coming in, but we're reliant on supplies coming in within each week to make sure that we're secure. The position on fluid resistant gowns we saw in England over the weekend is not something that we're taking any comfort in because we weren't in that position, because we do know that we need supplies coming in on a regular basis to make sure that we're not in that position where we have to reconsider what to do if the first source of PPE isn't available to us and to our staff. I can't give a running total of the amount of PPE that we've acquired outside of the four-nation purchasing routes, but we do continue to run through each of the opportunities that are presented to the National Procurement Service. We want to look at individual opportunities to work alongside other UK countries. And that is still taking place as well as our four-nation procurement. And what we've agreed to do is to be open with each other across the four Governments about how much we've got of each item. Because the mutual aid that the First Minister referred to that we provided to Northern Ireland, we may be looking for that mutual aid to be provided in the future, whether it's from England, Scotland or Northern Ireland. So, the openness we need is really important to make this work because the market that we're in is so competitive and so uncertain that an individual nation approach is not going to serve our staff or the public well. But I'll happily keep you updated in our regular conversations about where we are and the questions that I know you're asking in correspondence as well. I'm happy to do so.

Ar y pwynt olaf a godwyd gan Angela Burns ynglŷn â chasglu a defnyddio data, rwy'n hapus i adolygu'r data er mwyn inni allu bod yn fwy sicr am ei gywirdeb a sut y caiff ei ddefnyddio wedyn i fynd i'r afael â meysydd gwella a dysgu ar draws y system. Rwy'n credu ei bod bob amser yn bwynt teg i feddwl ynglŷn â sut rydym yn adolygu'r hyn rydym yn ei wneud a pham a sut y caiff gwybodaeth ei defnyddio i'n galluogi i wella.

O ran cyllid, rwyf am ailddatgan yr hyn a ddywedais ddoe: ni fydd yr un bwrdd iechyd lleol yn cael ei gosbi am y camau y maent wedi'u cymryd wrth ymateb i'r bygythiad unwaith mewn canrif y mae coronafeirws yn ei greu. Rwyf wedi siarad yn rheolaidd â chadeiryddion a phrif weithredwyr ar draws teulu'r GIG ac nid oes unrhyw un wedi tynnu fy sylw o gwbl at bryderon ynglŷn â sut y bydd y cyllid yn cael ei gysoni ar ryw adeg yn ystod y flwyddyn, ond pwynt o gywirdeb yn unig yw'r ffaith nad ydym yn sicr ynglŷn â'r symiau canlyniadol. O'r prif ddatganiadau a wneir, rhaid inni drosi'r hyn a ddaw i Gymru mewn gwirionedd.

A'r pwynt arall na all yr un ohonom ei osgoi yw'r ffaith nad ydym yn gwybod sut yn union y mae coronafeirws yn datblygu a hyd a lled y straen a'r pwysau y bydd yn eu cynhyrchu, nid yn unig mewn perthynas â'r adnoddau ychwanegol sylweddol rydym wedi'u darparu i greu rhwydwaith o ysbytai maes, ond wrth gwrs, y pwysau sylweddol a pharhaus i ddarparu cyfarpar diogelu personol a phwysau'r gost real iawn y mae hynny'n ei olygu ynddo'i hun, a chydbwyso hynny â gweithgarwch arall nad yw'n digwydd lle nad yw'r costau'n codi ond lle caiff y staff hynny eu hadleoli i raddau helaeth. Felly, nid yw'r modd y mae arian yn symud o amgylch y system yn sicr, ond i ailddatgan: ni fydd unrhyw fwrdd iechyd, nac unrhyw ymddiriedolaeth yng Nghymru, yn cael eu cosbi am y gweithgarwch y maent yn ei wneud i gadw pob un ohonom yn ddiogel.

Ar gynnal profion, rydym wedi cyrraedd 1,800 o brofion heddiw. Bob bore dydd Mawrth, byddaf yn cyhoeddi diweddariad ar y cynnydd mewn profion a'r rhagolygon, ac yn ddiweddarach heddiw, byddaf yn cadarnhau nifer o ffigurau eraill. Ond o ran yr amserlen ar gyfer profi, fy nealltwriaeth i yw y dylwn allu cadarnhau pan fyddaf wedi cyhoeddi materion heddiw—ac mae'n destun gofid i mi nad oeddwn yn gallu gwneud hyn cyn y sesiwn heddiw—fod dros 90 y cant o bobl yn derbyn eu canlyniadau o fewn deuddydd i gynnal y prawf. Rydym wedi cynnal dros 27,000 o brofion yma yng Nghymru, ac ar sail y pen o'r boblogaeth mae hynny'n golygu ein bod yn cynnal mwy o brofion na'r Alban a Lloegr. Felly, mewn gwirionedd, mae ein cyfradd weithgarwch yn cymharu â gwledydd eraill y DU. Mae'r her sy'n ein wynebu yn ymwneud nid yn unig â'r hyn rydym ei angen yn awr i sicrhau bod gweithwyr hanfodol, gan gynnwys staff iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol ar y rheng flaen, gwasanaethau brys eraill a phartneriaid eraill yn cael y prawf, ond yn amlwg, y pwynt rwyf wedi'i wneud dro ar ôl tro ynglŷn â graddau'r profi rydym ei angen cyn cefnu ar y cyfyngiadau symud er mwyn sicrhau ein bod yn profi ar raddfa lawer mwy sylweddol a gwasgariad a mynediad at y profion hynny hefyd.

Ar gyfarpar diogelu personol, hoffwn ailddatgan: rydym ymhell o fod yn llaesu dwylo neu'n hunanfodlon ynglŷn â'n sefyllfa. Rydym yn gwybod ein bod yn gweithredu gyda'r rhagdybiaeth y byddwn yn cael cyfarpar diogelu personol, ond rydym yn dibynnu ar gyflenwadau a ddaw i mewn bob wythnos i wneud yn siŵr ein bod yn ddiogel. Nid yw'r sefyllfa o ran gwisgoedd atal hylif a welsom yn Lloegr dros y penwythnos yn rhywbeth sy'n rhoi unrhyw gysur i ni am nad oeddem yn y sefyllfa honno, oherwydd gwyddom ein bod angen cyflenwadau rheolaidd i sicrhau nad ydym yn y sefyllfa honno lle mae'n rhaid inni ailystyried beth i'w wneud os nad yw'r ffynhonnell gyntaf o gyfarpar diogelu personol ar gael i ni ac i'n staff. Ni allaf roi cyfanswm y nifer o eitemau cyfarpar diogelu personol rydym wedi'u caffael y tu allan i lwybrau prynu'r pedair gwlad, ond rydym yn parhau i fynd drwy bob un o'r cyfleoedd sy'n cael eu cyflwyno i'r Gwasanaeth Caffael Cenedlaethol. Rydym yn awyddus i edrych ar gyfleoedd unigol i gydweithio â gwledydd eraill y DU. Ac mae hynny'n dal i ddigwydd yn ogystal â'n trefniadau caffael pedair gwlad. A'r hyn rydym wedi cytuno i'w wneud yw bod yn agored gyda'n gilydd ar draws y pedair Llywodraeth ynglŷn â faint sydd gennym o bob eitem. Oherwydd y cyd-gymorth y cyfeiriodd y Prif Weinidog ato a ddarparwyd gennym i Ogledd Iwerddon, efallai ein bod yn disgwyl i'r cyd-gymorth hwnnw gael ei ddarparu yn y dyfodol, boed o Loegr, yr Alban neu Ogledd Iwerddon. Felly, mae'r tryloywder rydym ei angen yn bwysig iawn i wneud i hyn weithio oherwydd mae'r farchnad rydym ynddi mor gystadleuol ac mor ansicr fel na fydd ymagwedd cenedl unigol o fudd i'n staff na'r cyhoedd. Ond rwy'n hapus iawn i roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i chi yn ein sgyrsiau rheolaidd ynglŷn â'n sefyllfa a'r cwestiynau y gwn eich bod yn eu gofyn mewn gohebiaeth hefyd. Rwy'n hapus i wneud hynny.


Gaf i ddiolch i'r Gweinidog am y diweddariad ac am ein sgyrsiau rheolaidd ni? Rydw i'n falch gallu gofyn y cwestiynau mewn fforwm gyhoeddus fel hyn. Gaf i gymryd y cyfle yma hefyd i ddiolch i'r holl weithwyr allweddol hynny mewn iechyd a gofal a meysydd allweddol eraill sydd yn gweithio mor, mor galed ar ein rhan ni gyd ar hyn o bryd?

Yn gyffredinol, dwi'n meddwl bod yna nifer o feysydd sydd dal yn sefyll allan: diffyg profion; pryderon am offer diogelwch neu PPE yn dal yn broblem wirioneddol ar lawr gwlad, ac ymhlith y rheini sydd ar y rheng flaen, wrth gwrs. Dydyn ni ddim yn profi digon. Does yna ddim cynlluniau i brofi digon, a does gan wasanaethau, yn enwedig y gwasanaethau gofal, dwi'n meddwl, ddim yr hyder y buaswn i'n licio eu gweld nhw yn ei gael yn ein cyflenwadau, wrth inni edrych ar yr wythnosau sydd o'n blaenau ni.

May I thank the Minister for his update and for our regular conversations? I’m pleased to ask these questions in a public forum such as this one. May I also take this opportunity to thank all of those key workers in healthcare and other key areas who are working so very hard on behalf of us all at the moment?

Generally speaking, I think that there are a number of areas that stand out: shortage of testing; concerns about PPE, which is still a very real problem on the ground, and for those on the front line, of course. We're not testing enough. There are no plans in place to test enough, and services, particularly care services, don't have the confidence that I would like to see them having in supplies generally, as we look at the weeks ahead. 

Let me focus on a few of those key issues, then. There's still, I think, a lot of confusion on testing. I remain, as you know, Minister, unconvinced about the Welsh Government's stance on testing. We've been told again today that just over 20,000 people have been tested in Wales to date, but to put that in context: under original targets, we'd have tested 20,000 since Monday morning. Now, you wouldn't have picked the original targets—8,000 a day-plus by now—out of the air; they'd have been based on advice. We know the World Health Organization advice is that testing is really a key part of the battle against coronavirus, so can you explain what change there has been in the advice that you are given on the value of testing, because we've gone from that targeted 8,000 or 9,000 a day to around 1,000? You just said a minute ago that it was 1,800 today. Now, it's capacity of 1,800 today; it was fewer than 1,000 tests again yesterday, so we need to know what you are being told differently.

Yesterday, we were told that there's less spreading than we thought: yes, but that's because of lockdown, because of effective social distancing; it's working perhaps better than we had feared. It doesn't make the virus less contagious, so don't we need to have effective community testing in place before we can come out of lockdown? In fact, shouldn't we say that we can't leave lockdown? We cannot have substantial lifting of restrictions until we have community testing in place, and that's need a plan. We don't seem to have one, or I haven't been convinced that we have one, so can the Minister please square that anomaly for us? How can we build up our testing ready for relaxing lockdown rules without even having a trajectory to follow for increasing testing numbers?

And the First Minister said today we have no capacity problem. If we have no capacity problem, why are you, quite rightly, putting £50 million towards increasing capacity? The way I see it, we're just not reaching that capacity quickly enough. The First Minister said that it's a matter of not having enough people being put forward or coming forward for testing. Well, how about having a policy that encourages people to come forward, as a growing community-testing model, so that we are building up for the release of lockdown? We all want it to happen as soon as possible, but we can't do it until we know that the time is right.

Let me turn to PPE: real concern. Two things we need to know, of course: that we have enough PPE on the shelves now, and this week and next week for those that need them. I think from what I understand, we're sort of okay at the moment, which is good, although I'm still hearing of issues, especially in the care sector. In the longer term, though, the concerns I hear are that there's a lack of confidence in what is on its way in coming weeks, how much of it, and, crucially, what the delivery schedules are to make sure it gets out to where it's needed. Now, can we expect to have that kind of detailed plan? And with the military, as I understand, having assisted with the review of distribution, can the results of that review be shared as a means of giving people confidence?

I'm still also interested—and I've asked the Minister on a number of occasions—where we stand in terms of being able to source our own PPE internationally, as well as being part of your important pooled efforts across the UK. We know the background: suppliers in England refusing to sell PPE to care homes in Wales; flights full of PPE landing in Scotland, a major order on its way to Northern Ireland, but nothing quite like that happening here. So, if we are putting in those kinds of orders ourselves, and getting our own supplies—from China, for example—that's great; it's good news. Maybe I could ask you to share details of those orders today. But we're also hearing of UK Government telling other devolved administrations, 'You can no longer procure yourselves internationally.' Perhaps you can tell us if you've had such an instruction.

Third brief area for questioning: can I ask what work is being done on PPE for public use? I think there's growing evidence that wearing masks might well be useful to slow transmission when some social distancing regulations are released. So, on top of PPE for professional use, what plans are being put in place by Welsh Government for the procurement or production or distribution of public-use masks, because it may well be that we'll all need them soon?

And finally—also a question from me on data. We have the daily data on deaths related to COVID in hospital settings, with a lag because of death registration. We then wait to see COVID-linked deaths figures in the community too, which suggests, I think, that around a third more are dying directly of COVID in total than the official daily figures from hospitals show. But, on top of that, we have those tragic deaths occurring—non-COVID deaths, but deaths most likely that wouldn't have occurred were it not for the current restrictions: people not seeking timely treatment, not visiting the doctor and so on. The Office for National Statistics has also compared death rates now with the usual death rates, and found that the figure to be almost double what we would have usually expected across the UK for this time of year. That's 8,000 more in the first full week of April. So, are you able to tell us with any confidence what you think the current figures are for the number of deaths in total in Wales now, and are we able from that to assess through that data the steps that could be taken to save lives? 

Gadewch imi ganolbwyntio ar ychydig o'r materion allweddol hynny, felly. Rwy'n meddwl bod llawer o ddryswch o hyd ynglŷn â phrofi. Fel y gwyddoch, Weinidog, rwy'n dal i fod heb fy argyhoeddi gan safbwynt Llywodraeth Cymru ar brofi. Cawsom wybod eto heddiw fod ychydig dros 20,000 o bobl wedi cael eu profi yng Nghymru hyd yn hyn, ond i roi hynny yn ei gyd-destun: o dan y targedau gwreiddiol, byddem wedi profi 20,000 ers bore Llun. Nawr, ni fyddech wedi dewis y targedau gwreiddiol—8,000 y dydd a mwy erbyn hyn—allan o unman; byddent wedi bod yn seiliedig ar gyngor. Gwyddom mai cyngor Sefydliad Iechyd y Byd yw bod profi yn rhan allweddol o'r frwydr yn erbyn coronafeirws, felly a allwch egluro pa newid a fu yn y cyngor a roddir ichi ar werth profi, oherwydd rydym wedi mynd o'r targed o 8,000 neu 9,000 y dydd i tua 1,000? Rydych newydd ddweud funud yn ôl ei fod yn 1,800 heddiw. Nawr, mae'n gapasiti o 1,800 heddiw; roedd yn llai na 1,000 o brofion ddoe, felly mae angen inni wybod beth sy'n cael ei ddweud yn wahanol wrthych.

Ddoe, dywedwyd wrthym fod llai o ledaeniad nag a feddyliom: oes, ond mae hynny oherwydd y cyfyngiadau symud, oherwydd cadw pellter cymdeithasol effeithiol; mae'n gweithio'n well nag yr oeddem wedi'i ofni o bosibl. Nid yw'n gwneud y firws yn llai heintus, felly onid oes angen inni gael profion cymunedol effeithiol ar waith cyn y gallwn roi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau symud? Yn wir, oni ddylem ddweud na allwn roi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau symud? Ni allwn gael gwared ar y cyfyngiadau i raddau sylweddol hyd nes y bydd gennym brofion cymunedol ar waith, ac mae angen cynllun i wneud hynny. Nid yw'n ymddangos bod gennym un, neu nid wyf wedi fy argyhoeddi bod gennym un, felly a all y Gweinidog gysoni'r anomaledd hwnnw i ni? Sut y gallwn ddatblygu ein profion yn barod ar gyfer llacio'r cyfyngiadau heb fod gennym lwybr i'w ddilyn ar gyfer cynyddu niferoedd y profion?

A dywedodd y Prif Weinidog heddiw nad oes gennym broblem capasiti. Os nad oes gennym broblem capasiti, pam eich bod chi, yn gwbl briodol, yn rhoi £50 miliwn tuag at gynyddu capasiti? Yn ôl yr hyn a welaf i, nid ydym yn cyrraedd y capasiti hwnnw'n ddigon cyflym. Dywedodd y Prif Weinidog ei fod yn ymwneud â'r ffaith nad oes digon o bobl yn mynd i gael profion. Wel, beth am gael polisi sy'n annog pobl i wneud hynny, fel model profi cymunedol sy'n tyfu, fel ein bod yn adeiladu tuag at roi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau? Mae pob un ohonom am iddo ddigwydd cyn gynted â phosibl, ond ni allwn ei wneud hyd nes ein bod yn gwybod bod yr amser yn iawn.

Gadewch imi droi at gyfarpar diogelu personol: pryder gwirioneddol. Dau beth sydd angen i ni ei wybod, wrth gwrs: fod gennym ddigon o gyfarpar diogelu personol ar y silffoedd yn awr, a'r wythnos hon a'r wythnos nesaf ar gyfer y rhai sydd eu hangen. O'r hyn rwy'n ei ddeall, rwy'n meddwl ein bod yn weddol agos ati ar y funud, sy'n beth da, er fy mod yn dal i glywed am broblemau, yn enwedig yn y sector gofal. Yn y tymor hwy, fodd bynnag, y pryderon a glywaf yw bod diffyg hyder yn yr hyn sydd ar ei ffordd yn yr wythnosau nesaf, faint ohono, ac yn hollbwysig, beth yw'r amserlenni cyflenwi er mwyn sicrhau ei fod yn cyrraedd y mannau lle mae ei angen. Nawr, a allwn ddisgwyl cael y math hwnnw o gynllun manwl? A chyda'r fyddin, yn ôl yr hyn a ddeallaf, wedi bod yn cynorthwyo gyda'r adolygiad o ddosbarthiad, a ellir rhannu canlyniadau'r adolygiad hwnnw fel ffordd o roi hyder i bobl?

Mae gennyf ddiddordeb mewn gwybod hefyd—ac rwyf wedi gofyn i'r Gweinidog droeon—lle rydym arni o ran gallu cyrchu ein cyfarpar diogelu personol ein hunain yn rhyngwladol, yn ogystal â bod yn rhan o'ch cydymdrechion pwysig ar draws y DU. Rydym yn gwybod y cefndir: cyflenwyr yn Lloegr yn gwrthod gwerthu cyfarpar diogelu personol i gartrefi gofal yng Nghymru; awyrennau'n llawn o gyfarpar diogelu personol yn glanio yn yr Alban; archeb fawr ar ei ffordd i Ogledd Iwerddon, ond nid oes unrhyw beth tebyg i hynny'n digwydd yma. Felly, os ydym yn cyflwyno archebion o'r fath ein hunain, a chael ein cyflenwadau ein hunain—o Tsieina, er enghraifft—mae hynny'n wych; mae'n newyddion da. Efallai y gallwn ofyn ichi rannu manylion yr archebion hynny heddiw. Ond rydym hefyd yn clywed am Lywodraeth y DU yn dweud wrth y gweinyddiaethau datganoledig, 'Ni chewch chi gaffael drosoch eich hunain yn rhyngwladol mwyach.' Efallai y gallwch ddweud wrthym a ydych wedi cael cyfarwyddyd o'r fath.

Y trydydd maes i holi yn ei gylch yn fyr: a gaf fi ofyn pa waith sy'n cael ei wneud ar gyfarpar diogelu personol i'w ddefnyddio gan y cyhoedd? Rwy'n credu bod tystiolaeth gynyddol y gallai gwisgo masgiau fod yn ddefnyddiol er mwyn arafu'r trosglwyddiad pan fydd rheoliadau cadw pellter cymdeithasol yn cael eu llacio. Felly, yn ychwanegol at gyfarpar diogelu personol at ddefnydd proffesiynol, pa gynlluniau sy'n cael eu rhoi ar waith gan Lywodraeth Cymru ar gyfer caffael neu gynhyrchu neu ddosbarthu masgiau at ddefnydd y cyhoedd, oherwydd mae'n ddigon posibl y bydd pawb ohonom eu hangen yn fuan?

Ac yn olaf—cwestiwn gennyf fi hefyd ar ddata. Rydym yn cael y data dyddiol ar farwolaethau sy'n gysylltiedig â COVID mewn ysbytai, ac mae oedi yn y broses o gofrestru marwolaethau. Rydym wedyn yn aros i weld ffigurau marwolaethau sy'n gysylltiedig â COVID yn y gymuned hefyd, sy'n awgrymu, rwy'n credu, fod tua thraean yn fwy yn marw'n uniongyrchol o COVID o ran cyfanswm nag y mae'r ffigurau dyddiol swyddogol o ysbytai yn ei ddangos. Ond ar ben hynny, mae gennym y marwolaethau trasig sy'n digwydd—marwolaethau nad ydynt yn rhai COVID, ond marwolaethau na fyddent wedi digwydd yn ôl pob tebyg oni bai am y cyfyngiadau presennol: pobl ddim yn mynd am driniaeth amserol, ddim yn mynd at y meddyg ac yn y blaen. Mae'r Swyddfa Ystadegau Gwladol hefyd wedi cymharu cyfraddau marwolaeth yn awr â'r cyfraddau marwolaeth arferol, a chanfod fod y ffigur bron yn ddwbl yr hyn y byddem fel arfer yn ei ddisgwyl ar draws y DU ar gyfer yr adeg hon o'r flwyddyn. Dyna 8,000 yn fwy yn yr wythnos lawn gyntaf o Ebrill. Felly, a allwch ddweud wrthym gydag unrhyw hyder beth gredwch chi yw'r ffigurau cyfredol ar gyfer nifer y marwolaethau yng Nghymru ar hyn o bryd, ac a ydym yn gallu asesu, drwy'r data hwnnw, y camau y gellid eu cymryd i achub bywydau?  


Thank you for that long list of questions, comments and points. When it comes to the starting point about testing and whether we're testing enough—we've talked about this in our other meetings and in the response I've provided in public forum in the commentary and press questions. In terms of whether we're testing enough, we are having enough capacity, and it's about making use of that capacity. That's why the review I ordered needed to look not just at how fast we're growing the capacity, but the use we're making of it and the system we have to get people from referral to testing. I recognise that there were some challenges in our system, which is why there have been some immediate changes to improve that. We've already seen a much greater throughput in terms of the people from the care sector. We've heard from local government already; they're putting through much greater numbers of their staff and people in the independent sector. We've deliberately drawn Care Forum Wales into the work we're doing so that those in the independent sector have a much clearer line of sight into how they can get their members of staff referred, and to understand the policy changes that have been made that I referred to in my statement, and crucially, that the local resilience forums across Wales, which are having to co-ordinate the emergency response across Wales, and the range of services, also understand how they can refer their members of staff through as well, to get that commonality and consistency and efficiency in the process. So, our current capacity is what that is being used for, and I've had a direct conversation with the chief scientific adviser on health, and I've also spoken to the chief medical officer each day as well, and they are confident.

One of the points you raised with me was about what advice we're getting. Where we are will meet the sort of need we have in that sector of workers. But the point that I have regularly made, and I know you referred to it as well in terms of your comment around the value of testing—I've regularly made the point that we need to have a much bigger community infrastructure that is in place and ready to go. That doesn't mean that we're testing it for the first time on the first day and trying to phase our way out of lockdown, but that the capacity is increased steadily, progressively, and that we have it in place before we do come out of lockdown. That's a point I've made several times over the past week.

The reason, though, why we're not having to test 5,000 people a day and more is because of the social distancing that's been introduced, because of the measures we took to put the country into lockdown, because of public response, because we have intervened and flattened so successively the current rate of infection. But that doesn't mean that we can come out of lockdown today, for a range of reasons that I think Members here understand perfectly well. That's why I've made the point successively, and I'll keep on making it, that we need that bigger infrastructure ready and in place before testing comes out. And I don't think there's an anomaly there, because that is exactly what I've said pretty consistently when I've been asked about this for the last week and more.

On the point about the weekly update—in that weekly update that is being published on a Tuesday morning, moving forward I'll not provide an update but I'll give an indication of where we expect to be across the next week. That comes from the advice that we get from within our system and Public Health Wales and other actors on how we're increasing our capacity here, what the UK contracts are providing for us, to give that idea of where we're going to be next. Because I didn't pluck a figure out of thin air—it was based on the advice we had. And in the testing review I indicated the reasons why we weren't able to get that previous figure on tests: the change in behaviour across the rest of the world; the previous arrangements we had in place; the fact that other countries prevented equipment leaving their countries, including some chemical reagents and physical testing kits; and the fact that some of that equipment has been delayed. Those are all very real factors that are outside of our control. So, rather than setting a new target when I can't control a range of those factors, and neither can our own actors here in the health family in Wales, I've committed to providing a regular update on what we are doing and what we expect to do to get to the point where we have that much bigger infrastructure in place.

On PPE, a regular schedule is provided to local authorities and within our healthcare system, in terms of when they can expect deliveries. To be fair, the leadership at the Welsh Local Government Association have recognised that there has been improvement in the understanding of what's coming and the delivery of that. As I said, over 40 per cent of our pandemic national health service stock has been provided to local authorities for use in the care sector, including by those individual businesses as well who would normally source their own PPE but are now having that provided free of charge by us, through the national health service, whereas, actually, in some parts of England they're still paying for that stock despite its provision coming through the healthcare system.

On the review the military have undertaken, it has given us confidence in the logistics in our delivery system. It's given us some pointers for improvement, and we look several times a week at what is happening and our ability to have the right levels of PPE, and where we think that there are potential supply issues. We're also providing some technical briefings to people who really do need to know this in the system, on the trade union side and employers, so they've got confidence to provide to their members and their employees on what actually is happening.

On procurement, we continue to work not just individually to follow up leads that are provided to us, but we're also, as I've indicated, working with Northern Ireland and Scotland, as well as England, and we've also agreed to come together on a four-nation basis. It's not so much a matter of instruction, but it's how we've agreed to work in pursuing those opportunities.

In terms of masks for the wider public—again, I've answered several questions on this in a number of fora over the last week—the evidence base is being reviewed. At present, the advice we have is that the public don't need to wear masks. We know a number of people already are. The wearing of masks is about protecting other people so that you don't spread coronavirus to someone else, and that's most effective for people who may be asymptomatic, but it's worth reminding ourselves that people who are symptomatic and haven't had a test should be self-isolating. People who are COVID-positive should certainly be self-isolating.

We'll need to consider the impact of asking the public to wear masks and what that means, making sure it doesn't compromise the supply of surgical-grade masks, but that, equally, we understand what the evidence base is. If that evidence base changes, then I'll be very happy to shift the position and the advice that we give to the public. We don't know everything about coronavirus—we learn more each day and each week. It's part of the reason why some of the advice has changed throughout the progress of the pandemic. I expect that on a range of things we'll be doing things differently in months to come compared to where we are today. 

On non-COVID-related mortality—your final point—last week, of course, the chief executive of NHS Wales raised this point in his press conference. I've referred to it several times this week, including in yesterday's press conference, and I have asked the health service to do some work already to understand those areas of non-COVID-related mortality, to understand how much that need is being suppressed for people who do have urgent care needs. As I've mentioned in my statements previously, the NHS is open for business for people with urgent care needs. I don't want people to be so fearful of coming to the national health service for treatment that they potentially end up risking their own health and well-being. Sometimes that has led to potentially avoidable mortality. It's a matter I did manage to discuss with chief executives and chairs earlier today. I want to provide more focus on that in the week ahead, because public behaviour is a big part of why we've had a success story in preventing the spread of coronavirus, but it's also part of the challenge that you highlighted, and we've talked about before, on those non-COVID-related areas of mortality and how we continue to restart other parts of our national health service in the future. 

Diolch ichi am y rhestr faith honno o gwestiynau, sylwadau a phwyntiau. O ran y man cychwyn ar gyfer profi ac a ydym yn cynnal digon o brofion—rydym wedi siarad am hyn yn ein cyfarfodydd eraill ac yn yr ymateb a ddarparwyd gennyf yn y fforwm cyhoeddus mewn sylwebaeth ac wrth ateb cwestiynau gan y wasg. O ran a ydym yn profi digon, mae gennym ddigon o gapasiti, ac mae'n ymwneud â gwneud defnydd o'r capasiti hwnnw. Dyna pam roedd angen i'r adolygiad y gofynnais amdano edrych nid yn unig ar ba mor gyflym rydym yn cynyddu'r capasiti, ond y defnydd a wnawn ohono a'r system sydd gennym i sicrhau bod pobl yn cael profion ar ôl eu hatgyfeirio. Rwy'n cydnabod bod rhai heriau yn ein system, a dyna pam y bu rhai newidiadau ar unwaith i wella hynny. Rydym eisoes wedi gweld llawer mwy o weithgaredd mewn perthynas â'r bobl o'r sector gofal. Rydym eisoes wedi clywed gan lywodraeth leol; maent yn cyflwyno niferoedd llawer mwy o'u staff a phobl yn y sector annibynnol. Rydym yn fwriadol wedi tynnu Fforwm Gofal Cymru i mewn i'r gwaith a wnawn fel bod gan y rheini yn y sector annibynnol lwybr mwy eglur o lawer o ran sut y gallant gael eu staff wedi'u hatgyfeirio, a deall y newidiadau polisi a wnaed y cyfeiriais atynt yn fy natganiad, ac yn hollbwysig, fod fforymau lleol Cymru gydnerth, sy'n gorfod cyd-gysylltu'r ymateb brys ledled Cymru, a'r amrywiaeth o wasanaethau, hefyd yn deall sut y gallant atgyfeirio eu haelodau staff yn ogystal, er mwyn sicrhau bod y broses yn gydradd, yn gyson ac yn effeithiol. Felly, ein capasiti presennol yw'r hyn y defnyddir hynny ar ei gyfer, ac rwyf wedi cael sgwrs uniongyrchol gyda'r prif gynghorydd gwyddonol ar iechyd, ac rwyf hefyd wedi siarad â'r prif swyddog meddygol bob dydd yn ogystal, ac maent yn hyderus.

Roedd un o'r pwyntiau a godwyd gennych yn ymwneud â pha gyngor a gawn. Bydd ein sefyllfa yn ateb yr angen sydd gennym yn y sector hwnnw o weithwyr. Ond y pwynt rwyf wedi'i wneud yn rheolaidd, a gwn ichi gyfeirio ato hefyd yn eich sylw ynglŷn â gwerth profion—rwyf wedi gwneud y pwynt yn rheolaidd fod angen inni gael seilwaith cymunedol llawer mwy ar waith ac yn barod i weithredu. Nid yw hynny'n golygu ein bod yn ei brofi am y tro cyntaf ar y diwrnod cyntaf ac yn ceisio rhoi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau symud fesul cam, ond bod y capasiti'n cael ei gynyddu'n raddol, yn gynyddol, a'i fod ar waith cyn inni roi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau symud. Dyna bwynt a wneuthum sawl gwaith dros yr wythnos ddiwethaf.

Ond y rheswm pam nad ydym yn gorfod profi 5,000 o bobl a mwy y dydd yw oherwydd y cadw pellter cymdeithasol a gyflwynwyd, oherwydd y mesurau a roddwyd ar waith i gyfyngu ar symud yn y wlad, oherwydd ymateb y cyhoedd, oherwydd ein bod wedi ymyrryd a gwastatáu'r gyfradd heintio bresennol mor llwyddiannus. Ond nid yw hynny'n golygu y gallwn roi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau symud heddiw, a hynny am amryw o resymau y credaf fod yr Aelodau yma'n eu deall yn iawn. Dyna pam y gwneuthum y pwynt droeon, a byddaf yn parhau i'w wneud, ein bod angen y seilwaith mwy hwnnw'n barod ac ar waith cyn i'r profion fynd allan. Ac nid wyf yn meddwl bod anghysondeb yn hynny, oherwydd dyna'n union y bûm yn ei ddweud yn eithaf cyson pan ofynnwyd i mi am hyn dros yr wythnos ddiwethaf a mwy.

Ar y pwynt am y diweddariad wythnosol—yn y diweddariad wythnosol sy'n cael ei gyhoeddi ar fore Mawrth, yn y dyfodol ni fyddaf yn rhoi diweddariad ond yn hytrach, byddaf yn nodi ble rydym yn disgwyl ei gyrraedd dros yr wythnos nesaf. Daw hynny o'r cyngor a gawn gan ein system ac Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru ac eraill ar sut rydym yn cynyddu ein capasiti yma, yr hyn y mae contractau'r DU yn ei ddarparu ar ein cyfer, i roi'r syniad o ble rydym yn mynd nesaf. Oherwydd nid tynnu ffigur o unman a wneuthum—roedd yn seiliedig ar y cyngor a gawsom. Ac yn yr adolygiad profion, nodais y rhesymau pam nad oeddem yn gallu cael y ffigur blaenorol hwnnw ar brofion: y newid mewn ymddygiad ar draws gweddill y byd; y trefniadau blaenorol a oedd gennym ar waith; y ffaith bod gwledydd eraill wedi rhwystro cyfarpar rhag gadael eu gwledydd, gan gynnwys adweithyddion cemegol a phecynnau profi ffisegol; a'r ffaith bod oedi wedi bod cyn cael rhywfaint o'r cyfarpar hwnnw. Mae'r rhain i gyd yn ffactorau real iawn sydd y tu hwnt i'n rheolaeth. Felly, yn hytrach na gosod targed newydd pan na allaf reoli amryw o'r ffactorau hynny, na'n gweithredwyr ein hunain yma ychwaith yn y teulu iechyd yng Nghymru, rwyf wedi ymrwymo i roi diweddariad rheolaidd ar yr hyn rydym yn ei wneud a'r hyn rydym yn disgwyl ei wneud i gyrraedd y pwynt lle bydd gennym seilwaith llawer mwy o faint yn ei le.

Ar gyfarpar diogelu personol, darperir amserlen reolaidd i awdurdodau lleol ac o fewn ein system gofal iechyd, ar gyfer pryd y gallant ddisgwyl cyflenwadau. A bod yn deg, mae'r arweinyddiaeth yng Nghymdeithas Llywodraeth Leol Cymru wedi cydnabod y bu gwelliant yn y ddealltwriaeth o'r hyn sy'n dod a'r ffordd y caiff ei gyflenwi. Fel y dywedais, mae dros 40 y cant o stoc pandemig ein gwasanaeth iechyd gwladol wedi cael ei ddarparu i awdurdodau lleol i'w ddefnyddio yn y sector gofal, gan gynnwys gan y busnesau unigol a fyddai fel arfer yn dod o hyd i'w cyfarpar diogelu personol eu hunain, ond sydd bellach yn ei gael gennym am ddim, drwy'r gwasanaeth iechyd gwladol, ond mewn rhai rhannau o Loegr maent yn dal i dalu am y stoc honno er ei bod yn cael ei darparu drwy'r system gofal iechyd.

Ar yr adolygiad y mae'r fyddin wedi'i gynnal, mae wedi rhoi hyder i ni yn logisteg ein system gyflenwi. Mae wedi rhoi rhai awgrymiadau i ni ynglŷn â lle i wella, ac rydym yn edrych sawl gwaith yr wythnos ar yr hyn sy'n digwydd a'n gallu i gael y lefelau cywir o gyfarpar diogelu personol, a lle rydym yn credu bod yna broblemau posibl gyda'r cyflenwad. Rydym hefyd yn darparu cyfarwyddyd technegol i bobl sydd wir angen gwybod hyn yn y system, ar ochr yr undebau llafur a chyflogwyr, fel bod ganddynt hyder i roi gwybod i'w haelodau a'u gweithwyr beth sy'n digwydd mewn gwirionedd.

Ar gaffael, rydym yn parhau i weithio nid yn unig fel unigolion i fynd ar drywydd awgrymiadau a roddir i ni, ond rydym hefyd, fel y nodais, yn gweithio gyda Gogledd Iwerddon a'r Alban, yn ogystal â Lloegr, ac rydym hefyd wedi cytuno i ddod at ein gilydd ar sail pedair gwlad. Nid gwneud hynny drwy gyfarwyddyd a wnawn fel y cyfryw, ond yn hytrach, drwy gytundeb rhyngom i weithio ar fynd ar drywydd y cyfleoedd hynny.

O ran masgiau ar gyfer y cyhoedd yn gyffredinol—unwaith eto, rwyf wedi ateb llawer o gwestiynau ar hyn mewn nifer o fforymau dros yr wythnos ddiwethaf—mae'r sylfaen dystiolaeth yn cael ei hadolygu. Ar hyn o bryd, y cyngor a gawn yw nad oes angen i'r cyhoedd wisgo masgiau. Gwyddom fod nifer o bobl yn gwneud hynny'n barod. Mae gwisgo masgiau'n golygu diogelu pobl eraill fel nad ydych chi'n lledaenu coronafeirws i rywun arall, ac mae hynny'n fwyaf effeithiol i bobl a allai fod yn asymptomatig, ond mae'n werth atgoffa ein hunain y dylai pobl sy'n dangos symptomau ac sydd heb gael prawf fod yn hunanynysu. Yn bendant, dylai pobl sydd wedi cael prawf COVID positif fod yn hunanynysu.

Bydd angen inni ystyried effaith gofyn i'r cyhoedd wisgo masgiau a beth y mae hynny'n ei olygu, gan sicrhau nad yw'n peryglu'r cyflenwad o fasgiau o safon lawfeddygol, ond ein bod, yn yr un modd, yn deall beth yw'r sylfaen dystiolaeth. Os bydd y sylfaen dystiolaeth yn newid, byddaf yn hapus iawn i newid y safbwynt a'r cyngor a roddwn i'r cyhoedd. Nid ydym yn gwybod popeth am coronafeirws—rydym yn dysgu mwy bob dydd a phob wythnos. Mae'n rhan o'r rheswm pam y mae rhywfaint o'r cyngor wedi newid dros hynt y pandemig. Rwy'n disgwyl y byddwn yn gwneud pethau'n wahanol ar amryw o bethau yn ystod y misoedd i ddod o gymharu â'r lle rydym heddiw.  

Ar farwolaethau nad ydynt yn gysylltiedig â COVID—eich pwynt olaf—yr wythnos diwethaf, wrth gwrs, cododd prif weithredwr GIG Cymru y pwynt hwn yn ei gynhadledd i'r wasg. Rwyf wedi cyfeirio ato sawl gwaith yr wythnos hon, gan gynnwys yn y gynhadledd i'r wasg ddoe, ac rwyf eisoes wedi gofyn i'r gwasanaeth iechyd wneud gwaith i ddeall y marwolaethau nad ydynt yn gysylltiedig â COVID, i ddeall faint y mae'r angen hwnnw'n cael ei lethu i bobl sydd ag anghenion gofal brys. Fel y crybwyllais yn fy natganiadau yn flaenorol, mae'r GIG ar agor i bobl ag anghenion gofal brys. Nid wyf eisiau i bobl fod mor ofnus fel nad ydynt yn troi at y gwasanaeth iechyd gwladol am driniaeth gan beryglu eu hiechyd a'u lles o bosibl. Weithiau mae hynny wedi arwain at farwolaethau y gellid eu hosgoi. Mae'n fater y llwyddais i'w drafod gyda phrif weithredwyr a chadeiryddion yn gynharach heddiw. Rwyf am roi mwy o bwyslais ar hynny yn ystod yr wythnos i ddod, oherwydd mae ymddygiad y cyhoedd yn rhan fawr o'r rheswm pam ein bod wedi cael llwyddiant yn atal lledaeniad coronafeirws, ond mae hefyd yn rhan o'r her rydych wedi tynnu sylw ati, ac rydym wedi siarad amdani o'r blaen, gyda marwolaethau nad ydynt yn rhai COVID a sut rydym yn parhau i ailgychwyn rhannau eraill o'n gwasanaeth iechyd gwladol yn y dyfodol.  


Thank you for your statement, Minister, and for your department's continuing efforts to help combat this disease—a disease that has killed nearly 200,000 people worldwide. Every one of those is someone's loved one, and my heart goes out to all those who have suffered loss at the hands of this invisible killer. Without the efforts of our NHS and social care heroes and volunteers, many, many more of us would be suffering from that loss.

Minister, in addition to our full-time social care staff, carers—both paid and unpaid—have a vital role to play during this crisis. Unfortunately, this vital role is not always recognised. One constituent who's been in touch with me has informed me that they're often forced to walk six miles home after caring for someone because public transport is reserved for key workers. Despite showing documents saying that she is a carer and a key worker, she has not been allowed very often on this transport.

Minister, do you accept that carers are key workers and will you work with the Minister for transport to ensure that our carers are rightly recognised as vital key workers, because without their efforts our health and care system would be overwhelmed?

Minister, the UK Government has also launched the CARE badge to enable the efforts of those working in social care to be recognised and rewarded. So, does the Welsh Government have similar plans?

I'm pleased to see that our care homes are getting supplies of PPE, although shortages still exist throughout the system. I accept that this is a world-wide issue. However, more needs to be done to ramp up domestic production and make it easier to ship in supplies. I have been contacted by freight companies concerned about the level of bureaucracy involved in shipping in PPE equipment. While I accept that checks have to be in place to ensure the efficacy of PPE, surely we can do more to streamline the processes during these times of crisis.

Minister, we also have to ensure that it is as simple as possible for companies and organisations to manufacture PPE. I have had contact with a wedding dress manufacturer locally who wishes to make gowns and masks for the NHS. So, Minister, what steps are you taking to make it easier for such companies to get involved, and will you consider what steps you can take to streamline the process, such as providing templates, et cetera, particularly for the face masks?

There is strong evidence to suggest that, when the lockdown is eventually lifted, the public on occasions, such as using public transport, will still be wearing face masks to help limit the spread of coronavirus. But we can't do that unless there are sufficient supplies of face masks to go around. So, Minister, do you have plans in place to increase these supplies?

And, finally, Minister, we have to plan, obviously, for the eventual relaxing of current lockdown measures, and I am grateful that the Welsh Government is recruiting people to help with contact tracing and have adopted the Symptom Tracker app. However, not everyone has a smartphone, so what plans do you have to improve symptom tracking for those without access to a smartphone?

Thank you, once again, Minister, for your continued efforts.

Diolch am eich datganiad, Weinidog, ac am ymdrechion parhaus eich adran i helpu i frwydro yn erbyn y clefyd hwn—clefyd sydd wedi lladd bron 200,000 o bobl ym mhob rhan o'r byd. Mae pob un o'r rheini'n annwyl i rywun, ac mae fy nghalon yn gwaedu dros bawb sydd wedi dioddef colled dan law'r lladdwr anweledig hwn. Heb ymdrechion ein GIG, arwyr gofal cymdeithasol a gwirfoddolwyr, byddai llawer iawn mwy ohonom yn dioddef o'r golled honno.

Weinidog, yn ogystal â'n staff gofal cymdeithasol amser llawn, mae gan ofalwyr—cyflogedig a di-dâl—ran hanfodol i'w chwarae yn ystod yr argyfwng hwn. Yn anffodus, nid yw'r rhan hanfodol hon yn cael ei chydnabod bob amser. Mae un etholwr sydd wedi cysylltu â mi wedi dweud wrthyf eu bod yn aml yn cael eu gorfodi i gerdded chwe milltir adref ar ôl gofalu am rywun oherwydd bod trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus wedi'i neilltuo ar gyfer gweithwyr allweddol. Er ei bod yn dangos dogfennau sy'n dweud ei bod yn ofalwr ac yn weithiwr allweddol, gwrthodwyd caniatâd iddi ar fwy nag un achlysur i deithio ar drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus.

Weinidog, a ydych chi'n derbyn bod gofalwyr yn weithwyr allweddol ac a wnewch chi weithio gyda'r Gweinidog trafnidiaeth i sicrhau y caiff ein gofalwyr eu cydnabod yn briodol fel gweithwyr allweddol hanfodol, oherwydd heb eu hymdrechion byddai ein system iechyd a gofal yn cael ei llethu?

Weinidog, mae Llywodraeth y DU hefyd wedi lansio'r bathodyn CARE er mwyn ei gwneud hi'n bosibl i ymdrechion y rhai sy'n gweithio mewn gofal cymdeithasol gael eu cydnabod a'u gwobrwyo. Felly, a oes gan Lywodraeth Cymru gynlluniau tebyg?

Rwy'n falch o weld bod ein cartrefi gofal yn cael cyflenwadau o gyfarpar diogelu personol, er bod prinder o hyd yn y system drwyddi draw. Rwy'n derbyn bod hon yn broblem fyd-eang. Fodd bynnag, mae angen gwneud mwy i wella cynhyrchiant domestig a'i gwneud yn haws dod â chyflenwadau i mewn. Cysylltodd cwmnïau cludo nwyddau â mi i ddweud eu bod yn pryderu ynglŷn â lefel y fiwrocratiaeth sy'n gysylltiedig â chludo cyfarpar diogelu personol. Er fy mod yn derbyn bod yn rhaid cael archwiliadau i sicrhau effeithiolrwydd cyfarpar diogelu personol, does bosibl na allwn wneud mwy i symleiddio'r prosesau yn ystod y cyfnod argyfyngus hwn.

Weinidog, rhaid inni hefyd sicrhau ei bod mor syml â phosibl i gwmnïau a sefydliadau weithgynhyrchu cyfarpar diogelu personol. Rwyf wedi cysylltu â gwneuthurwr gwisgoedd priodas yn lleol sy'n dymuno gwneud gwisgoedd a masgiau ar gyfer y GIG. Felly, Weinidog, pa gamau rydych yn eu cymryd i'w gwneud yn haws i gwmnïau o'r fath gyfrannu, ac a wnewch chi ystyried pa gamau y gallwch eu cymryd i symleiddio'r broses, megis darparu templedi, ac ati, yn enwedig ar gyfer masgiau wyneb?

Ceir tystiolaeth gref sy'n awgrymu, pan roddir y gorau i'r cyfyngiadau symud yn y pen draw, y bydd y cyhoedd ar adegau, wrth ddefnyddio trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus er enghraifft, yn dal i wisgo masgiau wyneb i helpu i gyfyngu ar ledaeniad coronafeirws. Ond ni allwn wneud hynny oni bai bod cyflenwadau digonol o fasgiau wyneb ar gael. Felly, Weinidog, a oes gennych gynlluniau ar y gweill ar gyfer cynyddu'r cyflenwadau hyn?

Ac yn olaf, Weinidog, mae'n rhaid i ni gynllunio, yn amlwg, ar gyfer llacio'r cyfyngiadau presennol yn y pen draw, ac rwy'n ddiolchgar fod Llywodraeth Cymru yn recriwtio pobl i helpu gydag olrhain cysylltiadau ac wedi mabwysiadu'r ap olrhain symptomau. Fodd bynnag, nid oes gan bawb ffôn clyfar, felly pa gynlluniau sydd gennych i wella'r broses o olrhain symptomau ar gyfer y rhai sydd heb ffôn clyfar at eu defnydd?

Diolch ichi, unwaith eto, Weinidog, am eich ymdrechion parhaus.


Thank you for that series of questions. We've actually worked alongside developers on the smartphone app and it's giving us a large amount of data in Wales to understand wider community activity and behaviour, but none of those systems are perfect and there are people who miss out—equally, not just on symptoms, on the data we're able to track about traffic movements and people movements as well to show the adherence to wider social distancing. 

So, we've got a range of surveillance efforts, not just on symptoms, on people reporting them, but also of course the numbers of people who contact our healthcare system if their symptoms give them enough cause for concern and they feel unwell.

So, there is a range of different areas to understand the challenges we face across systems and how we then address symptoms, particularly given the settings—that's why there's been so much concern about the care home sector. 

On face masks, I think it's again really important to reiterate that we don't want the public trying to acquire face masks that are medical grade to be used within our health or social care sector. It's about the evidence base that we have to understand whether or not masks would make a difference for the public, and, if so, what sort, and to make sure that they're manufactured in a very different way and to make it clear they're not in competition with those that front-line health and care workers need. Now, on the import of PP equipment, even if you take aside those matters that are reserved and we don't have control over, we certainly want to make sure that we test and understand the nature of the equipment that is being provided. I don't think anyone would want us to try to make that system any less properly rigorous. We want to know that people can have confidence in what they're being provided with. I know the economy Minister, through use of his local links, with the import of face masks that came in through a company in north Wales—we had to test that before having the assurance we could use it within our wider system. That's got to be the right thing to do. But every one of the leads we have is followed up and it's important to make that clear.

One of the frustrations that I have is that, for all of the well-meaning desire to help, some of those, of course, don't end up coming off, for reasons that I'm sure we could all understand. But my bigger frustration is the fact that, within all of the well-meaning and the positive things that do get taken forward, we still have to spend time working through what are fraudulent enquiries that are utterly mischievous, and that is a real sense of frustration. So many people in the world are behaving in an extraordinary manner to help their fellow citizen, but there are, sadly, some people who are looking to take advantage, and that is burning up lots of our precious time, energy and effort.

When it comes to recognition for carers, the economy Minister is going to be making a statement shortly, but we do need to think about the practical capacity of our transport network to take on additional need going into that, and it's a difficult balance. We regularly consider the role of carers, including unpaid carers and what they do, and many of us are, in fact, unpaid carers ourselves, when you think about friends and family who we care for. I'm certainly doing even more for my mother, as I'm sure many other people are with their parents and grandparents too, and that's really important to keep society going and to make sure that people who are living more restricted lives are able to do so well and to do so safely.

On the card issue that the UK Government have produced, that's actually—my understanding is it was a card for social care workers. What we've done in Wales is we've already provided a card—an electronic one, and there's a physical version going out—but that is so that our social care workers can be recognised as critical workers. That will help them with both assistance to practical restrictions in shops, when it is reserved for NHS and other critical workers, and to help them get practical assistance. We're also looking at rather more practical measures about how we recognise the significant efforts of our social care system, and a group of staff who we all recognise are relatively lowly paid, and we are reconsidering, quite rightly, the value they provide to our whole country.

Diolch ichi am y gyfres honno o gwestiynau. Rydym wedi gweithio gyda datblygwyr ar yr ap ffôn clyfar ac mae'n rhoi llawer iawn o ddata i ni yng Nghymru i ddeall gweithgarwch ac ymddygiad cymunedol ehangach, ond nid yw'r un o'r systemau hynny'n berffaith ac mae yna bobl sydd ar eu colled—yn yr un modd, nid o ran symptomau'n unig, ond o ran y data rydym yn gallu ei olrhain am symudiadau traffig a symudiadau pobl yn ogystal i ddangos lefelau cydymffurfiaeth o ran cadw pellter cymdeithasol yn ehangach.  

Felly, mae gennym amrywiaeth o ymdrechion i gadw golwg, nid yn unig ar symptomau, ond ar y bobl sy'n rhoi gwybod amdanynt, a hefyd, wrth gwrs, nifer y bobl sy'n cysylltu â'n system gofal iechyd os yw eu symptomau'n peri digon o bryder iddynt a'u bod yn teimlo'n anhwylus.

Felly, mae yna amrywiaeth o feysydd gwahanol i ddeall yr heriau sy'n ein hwynebu ar draws systemau a sut rydym yn mynd i'r afael â symptomau wedyn, yn enwedig o ystyried y lleoliadau—dyna pam y bu cymaint o bryder am y sector cartrefi gofal.  

Ar fasgiau wyneb, credaf ei bod unwaith eto'n bwysig iawn ailadrodd nad ydym am i'r cyhoedd geisio caffael masgiau wyneb o safon meddygol sydd i'w defnyddio yn ein sector iechyd neu ofal cymdeithasol. Mae'n ymwneud â'r sylfaen dystiolaeth sydd gennym i ddeall a fyddai masgiau'n gwneud gwahaniaeth i'r cyhoedd, ac os felly, pa fath o fasg, a gwneud yn siŵr eu bod yn cael eu cynhyrchu mewn ffordd wahanol iawn a'i gwneud yn glir nad ydynt yn cystadlu â'r rhai y mae gweithwyr iechyd a gofal rheng flaen eu hangen. Nawr, ar fewnforio cyfarpar diogelu personol, hyd yn oed os ydych yn rhoi'r materion hynny sydd wedi'u cadw yn ôl ac nad oes gennym reolaeth drostynt i'r naill ochr, rydym yn sicr am sicrhau ein bod yn profi ac yn deall natur y cyfarpar sy'n cael ei ddarparu. Nid wyf yn credu y byddai unrhyw un am i ni geisio gwneud y system honno'n llai trwyadl mewn unrhyw fodd. Rydym eisiau gwybod y gall pobl fod â hyder yn yr hyn a ddarperir iddynt. Rwy'n gwybod bod Gweinidog yr economi, drwy ddefnyddio'i gysylltiadau lleol, gyda mewnforio masgiau wyneb drwy gwmni yng ngogledd Cymru—bu'n rhaid inni brofi'r cyfarpar hwnnw cyn cael y sicrwydd y gallem ei ddefnyddio yn ein system ehangach. Rhaid mai dyna'r peth iawn i'w wneud. Ond awn ar drywydd pob un o'r awgrymiadau a gaiff eu cyflwyno i ni ac mae'n bwysig gwneud hynny'n glir.

Un o'r rhwystredigaethau sydd gennyf yw nad yw pob un sydd ag awydd caredig i helpu yn cael cyfle i wneud hynny, am resymau rwy'n siŵr y gall pawb ohonom eu deall. Ond o'r holl bethau da a charedig a chadarnhaol sy'n cael eu gwneud, fy rhwystredigaeth fwy yw'r ffaith ein bod yn dal i orfod treulio amser yn gweithio drwy'r hyn sy'n ymholiadau twyllodrus cwbl ddrygionus, ac mae hynny'n creu teimlad gwirioneddol rwystredig. Mae cynifer o bobl yn y byd yn ymddwyn mewn ffordd eithriadol i helpu eu cyd-ddinasyddion, ond yn anffodus, mae rhai pobl yn ceisio manteisio, ac mae hynny'n mynd â llawer o'n hamser prin, ein hegni a'n hymdrech.

Ar fater cydnabod gofalwyr, bydd Gweinidog yr economi'n gwneud datganiad cyn bo hir, ond mae angen inni feddwl am gapasiti ymarferol ein rhwydwaith trafnidiaeth i ymgymryd â'r angen ychwanegol o ran hynny, ac mae'n gydbwysedd anodd. Rydym yn ystyried rôl gofalwyr yn rheolaidd, gan gynnwys gofalwyr di-dâl a'r hyn a wnânt, ac mae llawer ohonom, mewn gwirionedd, yn ofalwyr di-dâl ein hunain, pan feddyliwch am ffrindiau a theulu rydym yn gofalu amdanynt. Rwy'n sicr yn gwneud hyd yn oed mwy dros fy mam, fel y mae llawer o bobl eraill gyda'u rhieni a'u neiniau a'u teidiau hefyd, ac mae hynny'n wirioneddol bwysig i gadw cymdeithas i fynd ac i wneud yn siŵr fod pobl sy'n byw bywydau mwy cyfyngedig yn gallu gwneud hynny'n dda ac yn ddiogel.

Ar fater y cerdyn y mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi'i gynhyrchu—fy nealltwriaeth i yw mai cerdyn i weithwyr gofal cymdeithasol ydoedd. Rydym eisoes wedi darparu cerdyn yng Nghymru—un electronig, ac mae fersiwn ffisegol yn mynd allan—ond mae hynny er mwyn i'n gweithwyr gofal cymdeithasol allu cael eu hadnabod fel gweithwyr hanfodol. Bydd hynny'n eu helpu gyda chymorth i gyfyngiadau ymarferol mewn siopau, pan gânt eu neilltuo ar gyfer y GIG a gweithwyr hanfodol eraill, ac yn eu helpu i gael cymorth ymarferol. Rydym hefyd yn edrych ar fesurau ychydig yn fwy ymarferol yn ymwneud â sut rydym yn cydnabod ymdrechion sylweddol ein system gofal cymdeithasol, a grŵp o staff y mae pawb ohonom yn cydnabod eu bod ar gyflogau cymharol isel, ac rydym yn ailystyried, yn gwbl briodol, y gwerth y maent yn ei roi i'n gwlad drwyddi draw.


Thank you, Minister, for your statement today. I'd like, first of all, to ask you if you could give us an update on the number of doctors and nurses who are previously retired and have returned to the NHS and perhaps also any student nurses and how they are able to plug those gaps.

My second question is around the announcement about GP online video consultations. Can you confirm that they are available across all of Wales now, and are there any plans to extend those to secondary care?

Diolch, Weinidog, am eich datganiad heddiw. Hoffwn, yn gyntaf oll, ofyn i chi a allech roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i ni am nifer y meddygon a'r nyrsys a oedd wedi ymddeol yn flaenorol ac sydd wedi dychwelyd i'r GIG ac efallai unrhyw fyfyrwyr nyrsio a sut y gallant lenwi'r bylchau hynny.

Mae fy ail gwestiwn yn ymwneud â'r cyhoeddiad ynghylch ymgynghoriadau fideo ar-lein gan feddygon teulu. A allwch gadarnhau eu bod ar gael ledled Cymru yn awr, ac a oes unrhyw gynlluniau i ymestyn y rheini i ofal eilaidd?

Yes, I'm happy to confirm that, when it comes to staff returning to the health service, there are over 10,000 staff who have now returned to the register that the NMC hold, and about 5 per cent of those are staff from Wales. That's a really good news story, because that's slightly more than our population share, and it does show a real willingness from recently retired staff to want to return. The NMC, as the regulator who holds the records, are writing out to people who have been retired from further back to see if they want to return. It's crucial we use those people in a way that is aligned with their skills, but also to recognise that some of them may need to be deployed away from front-line person-to-person care as well, so we make use of their skills without looking to compromise their own safety.

And it's the same picture with returning medics as well. There are a number of people who are retired who now have their own comorbidities where we need to make sure that we use them in a way that is entirely appropriate. I'll be able to give figures over the coming weeks on the number of undergraduates who have taken up the offer to come back to work and to be paid on 'Agenda for Change' conditions and to support the network that we have. And the need to scale that up is not what we thought it would be even a month ago, because of the fact that we haven't had the more significant upswing in coronavirus infections that we were planning and having to prepare for. So, that's a good news story—that we haven't needed to have all of those people working within our system. But it will matter as we move into not just restarting parts of our national health service, where we'll need to make use of that field hospital network; it will also matter about our ability to care for people who have urgent care needs. And, if we do see a further upswing in coronavirus, we'll need to be able to call on those people fairly rapidly, and I'm very grateful for the level of flexibility and commitment that all of those people have shown.

When it comes to the use of video-conferencing, I'm very pleased we've managed to roll this out across the country. There was a pilot in the Aneurin Bevan health board area. So, this was trialled in Gwent first and it was shown to be successful, and we've managed to roll that out much more rapidly than we would normally have done to a nationwide roll-out. It's part of my frustration in normal times that we aren't able to move more rapidly across the system. The real willingness of staff to make things happen and to remove barriers has been one of the really positive aspects of our response. That is available freely and comprehensively in primary care in general practice, and we are looking to roll that out further in secondary care as well, because some areas of that service already have a range of using digital technology and video-conferencing. I want to see that being a much more consistent part of the way we run our service. It's a point of necessity for the position that we're in, but, of course, it's a point of real advantage and opportunity for the future as we get used to different ways of working that make better use of everyone's time—both patients who need care, and our staff who provide it.

Ie, rwy'n hapus i gadarnhau, ynglŷn â staff sy'n dychwelyd i'r gwasanaeth iechyd, fod dros 10,000 o staff bellach wedi mynd yn ôl ar y gofrestr sydd gan y Cyngor Nyrsio a Bydwreigiaeth, ac mae oddeutu 5 y cant o'r rheini'n staff o Gymru. Mae'n newyddion dda iawn, oherwydd mae hynny ychydig yn fwy na'n cyfran o'r boblogaeth, ac mae'n dangos parodrwydd gwirioneddol gan staff sydd wedi ymddeol yn ddiweddar i fod eisiau dychwelyd. Mae'r Cyngor Nyrsio a Bydwreigiaeth, fel y corff rheoleiddio sy'n cadw'r cofnodion, yn ysgrifennu at bobl sydd wedi ymddeol ers mwy o amser i weld a ydynt am ddychwelyd. Mae'n hanfodol ein bod yn defnyddio'r bobl hynny mewn ffordd sy'n cyd-fynd â'u sgiliau, ond hefyd i gydnabod y gall fod angen defnyddio rhai ohonynt i ffwrdd o ofal am bobl ar y rheng flaen hefyd, felly rydym yn gwneud defnydd o'u sgiliau heb beryglu eu diogelwch eu hunain.

Ac mae'r un darlun gyda meddygon sy'n dychwelyd hefyd. Mae gan nifer o bobl sydd wedi ymddeol eu cydafiacheddau eu hunain bellach lle mae angen i ni wneud yn siŵr ein bod yn eu defnyddio mewn ffordd sy'n gwbl briodol. Byddaf yn gallu rhoi ffigurau dros yr wythnosau nesaf am nifer yr israddedigion sydd wedi derbyn y cynnig i ddychwelyd i'r gwaith a chael eu talu ar amodau'r 'Agenda ar gyfer Newid' a chefnogi'r rhwydwaith sydd gennym. Ac nid oes angen ymestyn hynny i'r graddau y credem y byddai'n rhaid ei wneud hyd yn oed fis yn ôl, oherwydd y ffaith amdani yw nad ydym wedi cael y cynnydd mwy sylweddol yn y nifer a heintiwyd gan y coronafeirws a gynlluniwyd gennym ac y bu'n rhaid paratoi ar eu cyfer. Felly, mae hynny'n newyddion dda—nad ydym wedi gorfod cael yr holl bobl hynny i weithio o fewn ein system. Ond fe fydd yn bwysig wrth inni symud nid yn unig at ailgychwyn rhannau o'n gwasanaeth iechyd gwladol, lle bydd angen inni ddefnyddio'r rhwydwaith hwnnw o ysbytai maes; bydd hefyd yn bwysig o ran ein gallu i ofalu am bobl sydd ag anghenion gofal brys. Ac os gwelwn gynnydd pellach yn y coronafeirws, bydd angen i ni allu galw ar y bobl hynny'n weddol gyflym, ac rwy'n ddiolchgar iawn am y lefel o hyblygrwydd ac ymrwymiad a ddangoswyd gan yr holl bobl hynny.

O ran defnyddio fideo-gynadledda, rwy'n falch iawn ein bod wedi llwyddo i gyflwyno hyn ledled y wlad. Cafwyd peilot yn ardal bwrdd iechyd Aneurin Bevan. Felly, cafodd hyn ei dreialu yng Ngwent yn gyntaf a dangoswyd ei fod yn llwyddiannus, ac rydym wedi llwyddo i'w gyflwyno'n llawer mwy cyflym nag y byddem wedi'i wneud fel arfer wrth gyflwyno cynllun yn genedlaethol. Rhan o fy rhwystredigaeth ar adegau arferol yw nad ydym yn gallu symud yn gyflymach ar draws y system. Mae gwir barodrwydd y staff i wneud i bethau ddigwydd ac i gael gwared ar rwystrau wedi bod yn un o'r agweddau gwirioneddol gadarnhaol ar ein hymateb. Mae hynny ar gael yn rhydd ac yn gynhwysfawr mewn gofal sylfaenol mewn ymarfer cyffredinol, ac rydym yn bwriadu ei gyflwyno ymhellach mewn gofal eilaidd hefyd, oherwydd mae gan rai meysydd o'r gwasanaeth hwnnw amrywiaeth o dechnoleg ddigidol a fideo-gynadledda eisoes. Rwyf am weld hynny'n rhan lawer mwy cyson o'r ffordd rydym yn rhedeg ein gwasanaeth. Mae'n angenrheidiol ar gyfer y sefyllfa rydym ynddi, ond wrth gwrs, mae'n fantais wirioneddol ac yn gyfle ar gyfer y dyfodol wrth i ni ddod i arfer â ffyrdd gwahanol o weithio sy'n gwneud gwell defnydd o amser pawb—y cleifion sydd angen gofal, a'n staff sy'n ei ddarparu.


I've now called Members from each of the political groups. I will need more succinct questions and answers from now on to try and call as many of you as possible. We're already out of time for this statement. Janet Finch-Saunders.

Rwyf bellach wedi galw Aelodau o bob un o'r grwpiau gwleidyddol. Bydd angen cwestiynau ac atebion mwy cryno o hyn ymlaen i geisio galw cynifer ohonoch ag sy'n bosibl. Mae'r amser ar ben ar gyfer y datganiad hwn eisoes. Janet Finch-Saunders.

[Inaudible.]—Llywydd. And, again, I would like to thank the Minister, Vaughan, for your statement and to acknowledge the considerable effort that you are trying to make to respond quickly to the ever-evolving COVID-19 crisis. Now, yesterday, you announced that Wales only had a few days of PPE stock available, and you'll recall that I wrote to you on 3 April, submitting a written Assembly question asking you to take urgent steps to ensure that adult and children's hospices have access to adequate personal protective equipment. Now, whilst I've still yet to receive a response, I do welcome the announcement that you've made of a three-month package of additional support worth up to £6.3 million for hospices in Wales, but can you clarify what steps you've also taken along those lines to ensure that, now that the funding's in place, they can actually access the PPE they require?

I appreciate that more than £62.2 million extra items of PPE have been sent to front-line workers, but I cannot overlook findings by the Royal College of Nursing that 54 per cent of those surveyed felt pressured to care for a COVID-19 patient without adequate protection and that 49 per cent of nursing staff treating COVID-19 patients not on ventilators said that they have not received training on what standard PPE to wear and when they should wear it. And I've also had that concern raised with me in the social care sector. I'm aware that the Welsh Government has been liaising with military planners regarding the demand for PPE, and, obviously, we hope this will assist in effective distribution, but will you clarify what steps are being taken to ensure that there's a fair distribution of PPE across the front line of health and social care in Wales?

You will be aware, Minister, that some companies have written to you and, notwithstanding what you've said about people fraudulently writing to you, people are offering up supplies, and they've had to approach me because they say that they haven't even received a response from you—so, a simple 'no', maybe. But leaving people in limbo when they read news reports that there's this panic on for PPE and when they're bothering to write to you and the finance Minister—to not receive a response isn't good enough.

Now, sadly, as of yesterday, it was estimated that 100 health and social care workers have died from COVID-19 in the UK. So, again, I would reiterate—I think it was Leanne Wood who asked about the families of the deceased here in Wales—whether grants will be available for those who have lost their lives to the global effort, in terms of funerals and things.

More worryingly, and this is really the thrust of all my questions, I've received a lot of concerns from the social care sector here about the non-testing of people leaving hospital, and social care homes being asked to take these people in. I have situations now where some social care providers are not prepared to do that for the lack of a test, because clearly, if they've got a COVID-free environment in a residential care home setting or nursing setting, that's how they want to keep it. But I would ask: how are these deaths being recorded? When you write to local authorities they say, 'We're not recording them. Care Inspectorate Wales are recording them.' You write to Care Inspectorate Wales and they say, 'We're not recording them.' So I would really like your clarity because the deaths in the social care sector across the UK have quadrupled, and it's a huge worry to those working in the social care sector, and it's a worry to me as a representative of those people and my constituents. I am being approached on social care matters very, very strongly at the moment.

So, I think I've asked you enough questions there, but I would like your comprehensive answers to those, which will provide me with some assurance. Thank you. Diolch.

[Anghlywadwy.]—Lywydd. Ac unwaith eto, hoffwn ddiolch i'r Gweinidog, Vaughan, am eich datganiad a chydnabod yr ymdrech sylweddol rydych yn ceisio ei gwneud i ymateb yn gyflym i'r argyfwng COVID-19 sy'n esblygu'n barhaus. Nawr, ddoe, fe gyhoeddoch chi mai dim ond ychydig ddyddiau o stoc cyfarpar diogelu personol oedd ar gael yng Nghymru, ac fe fyddwch yn cofio imi ysgrifennu atoch ar 3 Ebrill, yn cyflwyno cwestiwn ysgrifenedig Cynulliad yn gofyn i chi roi camau ar waith ar frys i sicrhau bod gan hosbisau oedolion a phlant fynediad at gyfarpar diogelu personol digonol. Nawr, er fy mod eto i gael ymateb, rwy'n croesawu'r cyhoeddiad rydych wedi'i wneud ynglŷn â phecyn tri mis o gymorth ychwanegol sy'n werth hyd at £6.3 miliwn i hosbisau yng Nghymru, ond a allwch egluro pa gamau rydych hefyd wedi'u cymryd i'r perwyl hwnnw i sicrhau, gan fod y cyllid yn ei le bellach, y gallant gael y cyfarpar diogelu personol sydd ei angen arnynt?

Rwy'n sylweddoli bod mwy na £62.2 miliwn o eitemau o gyfarpar diogelu personol ychwanegol wedi'u hanfon at weithwyr rheng flaen, ond ni allaf ddiystyru canfyddiadau'r Coleg Nyrsio Brenhinol fod 54 y cant o'r rhai a holwyd yn teimlo o dan bwysau i ofalu am glaf COVID-19 heb gyfarpar diogelu digonol a bod 49 y cant o'r staff nyrsio sy'n trin cleifion COVID-19 nad ydynt ar beiriant anadlu yn dweud nad oeddent wedi cael hyfforddiant ar ba gyfarpar diogelu personol safonol i'w wisgo a phryd y dylent ei wisgo. A chafodd y pryder hwnnw ei ddwyn i fy sylw yn y sector gofal cymdeithasol. Rwy'n ymwybodol fod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi bod yn cysylltu â chynllunwyr milwrol ynghylch y galw am gyfarpar diogelu personol, ac yn amlwg, rydym yn gobeithio y bydd hyn yn helpu gyda'r gwaith o'i ddosbarthu'n effeithiol, ond a wnewch chi egluro pa gamau sy'n cael eu cymryd i sicrhau bod cyfarpar diogelu personol yn cael ei ddosbarthu'n deg ar draws rheng flaen iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol yng Nghymru?

Fe fyddwch yn gwybod, Weinidog, fod rhai cwmnïau wedi ysgrifennu atoch ac er gwaethaf yr hyn a ddywedoch chi am bobl yn ysgrifennu'n dwyllodrus atoch, mae pobl yn cynnig cyflenwadau, ac maent wedi gorfod dod ataf fi am eu bod yn dweud nad ydynt wedi cael ymateb gennych chi hyd yn oed—felly, 'na' bach syml, efallai. Ond nid yw gadael pobl mewn limbo pan fyddant yn darllen adroddiadau newyddion yn dweud bod yna banig ynghylch cyfarpar diogelu personol a phan fyddant yn trafferthu ysgrifennu atoch chi a'r Gweinidog cyllid—nid yw peidio ag ymateb yn ddigon da.

Nawr, yn anffodus, yn y ffigurau ar gyfer ddoe, amcangyfrifwyd bod 100 o weithwyr iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol wedi marw o COVID-19 yn y DU. Felly, unwaith eto, hoffwn ailadrodd—rwy'n credu mai Leanne Wood a ofynnodd am deuluoedd y rhai a fu farw yma yng Nghymru—a fydd grantiau ar gael i'r rhai sydd wedi colli eu bywydau i'r ymdrech fyd-eang, o ran angladdau a phethau.

Yr hyn sy'n peri mwy o bryder i mi, a dyma yw byrdwn pob un o fy nghwestiynau, yw fy mod wedi cael llawer o bryderon gan y sector gofal cymdeithasol yma ynglŷn â'r methiant i gynnal profion ar bobl sy'n gadael yr ysbyty, a'r modd y gofynnir i gartrefi gofal cymdeithasol gymryd y bobl hyn. Mae gennyf sefyllfaoedd yn awr lle nad yw rhai darparwyr gofal cymdeithasol yn barod i wneud hynny oherwydd y methiant i gynnal profion, oherwydd yn amlwg, os oes ganddynt amgylchedd sy'n rhydd o COVID mewn cartref gofal preswyl neu leoliad nyrsio, dyna sut y maent am ei gadw. Ond hoffwn ofyn: sut y mae'r marwolaethau hyn yn cael eu cofnodi? Pan fyddwch chi'n ysgrifennu at awdurdodau lleol maent yn dweud, 'Nid ydym yn eu cofnodi. Arolygiaeth Gofal Cymru sy'n eu cofnodi.' Rydych chi'n ysgrifennu at Arolygiaeth Gofal Cymru ac maent hwy'n dweud, 'Nid ydym yn eu cofnodi.' Felly, hoffwn i chi egluro oherwydd mae nifer y marwolaethau yn y sector gofal cymdeithasol ar draws y DU wedi cynyddu bedair gwaith, ac mae'n bryder enfawr i'r rhai sy'n gweithio yn y sector gofal cymdeithasol, ac mae'n bryder i mi fel cynrychiolydd y bobl hynny a fy etholwyr. Caf fy holi'n aml iawn am faterion gofal cymdeithasol ar hyn o bryd.

Felly, rwy'n credu fy mod wedi gofyn digon o gwestiynau i chi, ond hoffwn gael eich atebion cynhwysfawr i'r rheini, atebion a fydd yn rhoi rhywfaint o sicrwydd i mi. Diolch.


Just to reiterate the point I made, I asked for succinct questions and succinct answers, so I'll need to ask the Minister as well to be succinct in his answers, and I would appreciate Members listening to what I say when I ask for succinct questions. Minister.

I ailadrodd y pwynt a wneuthum, gofynnais am gwestiynau cryno ac atebion cryno, felly bydd angen imi ofyn i'r Gweinidog fod yn gryno yn ei atebion hefyd, a byddwn yn gwerthfawrogi pe bai'r Aelodau'n gwrando ar yr hyn a ddywedaf pan ofynnaf am gwestiynau cryno. Weinidog.

Thank you, Llywydd. I think there were eight separate points made. I indicated we had about a week's supply of fluid-resistant gowns, we expect to receive more this week, but I was trying to be open with people about the position, and indeed staff and the public.

On hospice care, I did announce extra money for the hospice sector. PPE guidance needs to be followed within that sector as well, and as I say, the equipment, the PPE that we're providing is for use across health and social care, and obviously used appropriately and where necessary within hospices.

On the RCN survey, the key point is that I expect people to take up those issues with employers. We have well-rehearsed social partnership meetings here in Wales, and pretty much an open-door approach. In fact, the RCN and other trade unions themselves take part in a weekly meeting with me so they can raise issues directly with me. It's important that those individual issues are taken up with employers in the first instance, and I expect those to be resolved.

I'm happy to confirm that distribution is fair across the country. No region is advantaged or disadvantaged about how we meet the need across the country, across both health and social care, and if people do have examples of concerns where companies say they haven't had a response, I'd be grateful if Members could provide the details so that I can follow them up.

On testing on residents due to return to the care home sector from hospital, that's a matter I've covered in both the testing review and, I'm sure you'll have heard, I covered it in my statement today.

When it comes to the recording of deaths in the community, including in the care home sector, we already have, through the Office for National Statistics, a regular report on those deaths and where they take place. There is a time lag between those, because they need to review all death certificates, of between seven and 14 days from the headline figures that are released each day by Public Health Wales. So, there is pretty clear and transparent reporting of all deaths across all sectors.

Diolch ichi, Lywydd. Rwy'n credu bod wyth pwynt gwahanol wedi'u gwneud. Nodais fod gennym tua wythnos o wisgoedd atal hylif, rydym yn disgwyl cael mwy yr wythnos hon, ond roeddwn yn ceisio bod yn agored gyda phobl am y sefyllfa, a'r staff a'r cyhoedd yn wir.

Ar ofal hosbis, cyhoeddais arian ychwanegol ar gyfer y sector hosbisau. Mae angen dilyn y canllawiau ar gyfer cyfarpar diogelu personol yn y sector hwnnw hefyd, ac fel y dywedais, mae'r offer, y cyfarpar diogelu personol rydym yn ei ddarparu i'w ddefnyddio ar draws iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol, ac yn amlwg yn cael ei ddefnyddio'n briodol a lle bo angen mewn hosbisau.

Ar arolwg y Coleg Nyrsio Brenhinol, y pwynt allweddol yw fy mod yn disgwyl i bobl godi'r materion hynny gyda chyflogwyr. Rydym yn cael cyfarfodydd partneriaeth gymdeithasol helaeth yma yng Nghymru, a dull gweithredu drws agored fwy neu lai. Mewn gwirionedd, mae'r Coleg Nyrsio Brenhinol ac undebau llafur eraill eu hunain yn cymryd rhan mewn cyfarfod wythnosol gyda mi fel y gallant ddwyn materion i fy sylw yn uniongyrchol. Mae'n bwysig fod y materion unigol hynny'n cael eu trafod gyda chyflogwyr yn gyntaf, ac rwy'n disgwyl i'r rheini gael eu datrys.

Rwy'n hapus i gadarnhau bod y dosbarthiad yn deg ar draws y wlad. Nid oes unrhyw ranbarth yn cael mantais neu anfantais yn y ffordd rydym yn diwallu'r angen ar draws y wlad, ar draws y maes iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol, ac os oes gan bobl enghreifftiau o bryderon lle mae cwmnïau'n dweud nad ydynt wedi cael ymateb, byddwn yn ddiolchgar pe gallai'r Aelodau roi'r manylion i mi allu mynd ar eu trywydd.

O ran profi preswylwyr sydd ar fin dychwelyd i'r sector cartrefi gofal o'r ysbyty, mae hwnnw'n fater rwyf wedi'i drafod yn yr adolygiad profion ac rwy'n siŵr y byddwch wedi fy nghlywed yn ei gynnwys yn fy natganiad heddiw.

O ran cofnodi marwolaethau yn y gymuned, gan gynnwys yn y sector cartrefi gofal, mae gennym eisoes adroddiad rheolaidd drwy'r Swyddfa Ystadegau Gwladol ar y marwolaethau hynny a ble maent yn digwydd. Mae oedi rhwng y rheini, oherwydd mae angen iddynt adolygu pob tystysgrif farwolaeth, rhwng saith ac 14 diwrnod o'r prif ffigurau sy'n cael eu rhyddhau bob dydd gan Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru. Felly, ceir cofnod eithaf clir a thryloyw o bob marwolaeth ar draws pob sector.

It's an inexcusable failure, Minister, that you've not carried out the 5,000 tests a day in Wales that you promised. The World Health Organization advises that the countries that are best coping with this pandemic are mass testing, they're tracing and quarantining. There must be, at the very least, weekly testing for all key workers, whether they work in the public or the private sector, and until we have that, we can't relax the lockdown. I'd ask if you would accept that point. You've said you're working towards mass testing, but you didn't say in response to questions from my colleague Rhun ap Iorwerth whether you accept that point—that, unless we have mass testing in place, we cannot relax the restrictions.

I've had concerning reports from care homes as well, where PPE is in supply, but the manager has locked it down because it's being rationed. The policy is for it to be used when residents or others are showing symptoms, but we all know that, by the time symptoms are showing, the virus may well have already been transmitted. So, will you urgently issue guidance to enhance the protective measures that care homes and other closed settings should follow? I know PPE is a precious resource, but it's not acceptable to expect these low-waged workers and those that they look after to be put at risk in the way that they are under the current policy, in my view.

Mae'n fethiant anfaddeuol, Weinidog, nad ydych wedi cynnal y 5,000 o brofion y dydd a addawyd gennych yng Nghymru. Mae Sefydliad Iechyd y Byd yn cynghori fod y gwledydd sy'n ymdopi orau â'r pandemig hwn yn cynnal profion torfol, yn olrhain ac yn gosod cwarantin. Rhaid cynnal profion wythnosol fan lleiaf ar yr holl weithwyr allweddol, p'un a ydynt yn gweithio yn y sector cyhoeddus neu'r sector preifat, a hyd nes y cawn hynny, ni allwn lacio'r cyfyngiadau. Rwyf am ofyn a fyddech yn derbyn y pwynt hwnnw. Rydych chi wedi dweud eich bod yn gweithio tuag at gynnal profion torfol, ond ni ddywedoch chi mewn ymateb i gwestiynau gan fy nghyd-Aelod Rhun ap Iorwerth p'un a ydych yn derbyn y pwynt hwnnw—na allwn lacio'r cyfyngiadau os na chynhaliwn brofion ar raddfa fawr.

Rwyf wedi clywed adroddiadau sy'n peri pryder o gartrefi gofal hefyd, lle mae cyflenwad o gyfarpar diogelu personol ar gael, ond mae'r rheolwr yn ei gadw dan glo oherwydd ei fod yn cael ei ddogni. Y polisi yw ei ddefnyddio pan fydd preswylwyr neu eraill yn dangos symptomau, ond gwyddom i gyd ei bod yn ddigon posibl fod y feirws eisoes wedi'i drosglwyddo erbyn i'r symptomau ymddangos. Felly, a wnewch chi gyhoeddi canllawiau ar frys i wella'r mesurau diogelu y dylai cartrefi gofal a lleoliadau caeedig eraill eu dilyn? Rwy'n gwybod bod cyfarpar diogelu personol yn adnodd gwerthfawr, ond nid yw'n dderbyniol disgwyl i weithwyr ar gyflogau isel a'r rhai y maent yn gofalu amdanynt gael eu rhoi mewn perygl fel sy'n digwydd o dan y polisi presennol, yn fy marn i.


Okay. On the starting point, I just don't accept the premise that there's an inexcusable failure not to deliver a larger amount of testing. I've explained on several occasions the reasons why we weren't able to do it, the factors that were outside our control and what that means, and the direct advice we've had from our chief medical officer and our chief scientific adviser on health on how we make the best use of our testing resources, and the fact that we have enough testing capacity to address our front-line workers. I've also been crystal clear, not just today but on several occasions in the past, about the fact that large-scale testing is a prerequisite to move out of lockdown. I didn't need to be asked a question about that, I've proactively made that clear in a number of public statements.

I don't accept the premise that we need weekly testing for critical workers. We're not doing testing for the sake of it, we're only testing in a way that makes sense and is in accordance with the plan that we've had signed off. And, actually, it's not a dissimilar approach to the approach being taken by all four Governments across the UK on how we want to deploy our resources and the rationale that underpins it.

On PPE, I want to restate we're following the guidance. We had a review of the guidance right across the UK; all four nations are looking to follow that guidance and, in Wales, we haven't had to depart from it. And that is the point about making sure that we don't set a run on PPE use because we're responding to large-scale fears that people have, but that we provide confidence that the guidance is appropriate and is being followed, and that underscores why providing adequate amounts of PPE really is the No. 1 priority for me and for the Government at this point in time. 

O'r gorau. Ar y man cychwyn, nid wyf yn derbyn y rhagosodiad fod methiant anfaddeuol i beidio â darparu mwy o brofion. Rwyf wedi egluro ar sawl achlysur y rhesymau pam nad oeddem yn gallu gwneud hynny, y ffactorau a oedd y tu hwnt i'n rheolaeth a beth y mae hynny'n ei olygu, a'r cyngor uniongyrchol a gawsom gan ein prif swyddog meddygol a'n prif gynghorydd gwyddonol ar iechyd ar sut i wneud y defnydd gorau o'n hadnoddau profi, a'r ffaith bod gennym ddigon o gapasiti profi ar gyfer ein gweithwyr rheng flaen. Rwyf hefyd wedi bod yn hollol glir, nid yn unig heddiw ond ar sawl achlysur yn y gorffennol, am y ffaith bod cynnal profion ar raddfa fawr yn rhagofyniad cyn gallu rhoi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau. Nid oedd angen gofyn cwestiwn i mi ar hynny, rwyf wedi gwneud hynny'n glir mewn nifer o ddatganiadau cyhoeddus.

Nid wyf yn derbyn y rhagosodiad ein bod ni angen profion wythnosol ar weithwyr hanfodol. Nid ydym yn cynnal profion er mwyn cynnal profion, rydym yn profi mewn ffordd sy'n gwneud synnwyr ac sy'n unol â'r cynllun a gymeradwywyd gennym. Ac mewn gwirionedd, nid yw'n ddull annhebyg i ddull y pedair Llywodraeth ledled y DU o weithredu, o ran sut rydym am ddefnyddio ein hadnoddau a'r rhesymeg sy'n sail i hynny.

Ar gyfarpar diogelu personol, rwyf am ailddatgan ein bod yn dilyn y canllawiau. Cawsom adolygiad o'r canllawiau ledled y DU; mae'r pedair gwlad yn ceisio dilyn y canllawiau hynny ac yng Nghymru, nid ydym wedi gorfod gwyro oddi wrthynt. A dyna'r pwynt ynglŷn â gwneud yn siŵr nad ydym yn peri i bobl heidio i ddefnyddio cyfarpar diogelu personol am ein bod yn ymateb i'r ofnau mawr sydd gan bobl, ond ein bod yn rhoi hyder fod y canllawiau'n briodol ac yn cael eu dilyn, ac mae hynny'n tanlinellu pam mai darparu swm digonol o gyfarpar diogelu personol yw'r brif flaenoriaeth i mi ac i'r Llywodraeth ar hyn o bryd.  

Diolch, Llywydd. I can always be succinct, as you know. 

Three areas. PPE: I will want to highlight PPE because, again, I do get concerns from care home providers and also domiciliary care providers regarding PPE. It's important, I think, that we ensure they have sufficient levels, and I do think the guidance can be strengthened by Public Health Wales, because if you're in a lockdown situation, a care home is likely to be seeing infections because of an asymptomatic member of staff coming in with the virus and passing it on, so they should actually be using PPE at all points in time, not just when a case occurs within that home. So perhaps you could strengthen PHW's advice and guidance on that. 

Also in care homes—. I appreciate the website coming through, which will make things easier, but can you also look at ensuring that it's easier now for care home providers to have referrals by simply asking the council to do it directly, rather than having to go through PHW, which is causing more concern for some of the care home providers when members of staff are symptomic and they want them tested? A direct referral to the council might help that. 

Finally, I very much appreciate what you said to Rhun ap Iorwerth in relation to your discussions with health boards as to the preparations to introduce other treatments relating to the provision for non-COVID issues, but I've also received information that cancer referrals from GPs in other parts of the UK, in some areas, have gone down by 75 per cent. Are we aware of what percentage of cancer referrals—urgent cancer referrals—from GPs have changed, and will you look into this matter? Because it could be that patients are not wanting to go to GPs at this point in time, or it could be because GPs are being advised that certain types of conditions need to be met and they are therefore hesitant to refer themselves. We need to ensure that those who receive that type of urgency are not delayed because of a fear of overburdening the health system at this point in time. 

Diolch, Lywydd. Gallaf bob amser fod yn gryno, fel y gwyddoch. 

Tri maes. Cyfarpar diogelu personol: byddaf am dynnu sylw at gyfarpar diogelu personol oherwydd, unwaith eto, rwy'n clywed pryderon gan ddarparwyr cartrefi gofal a hefyd gan ddarparwyr gofal yn y cartref ynglŷn â chyfarpar diogelu personol. Rwy'n credu ei bod hi'n bwysig ein bod yn sicrhau bod ganddynt lefelau digonol, ac rwyf o'r farn y gall Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru gryfhau'r canllawiau, oherwydd os ydych dan gyfyngiadau symud, mae cartref gofal yn debygol o weld heintiau oherwydd bod aelod o staff asymptomatig yn dod i mewn gyda'r feirws ac yn ei drosglwyddo, felly dylent ddefnyddio cyfarpar diogelu personol ar bob adeg, nid yn unig pan fydd achos yn digwydd yn y cartref hwnnw. Felly, efallai y gallech gryfhau cyngor ac arweiniad Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru ynglŷn â hynny.  

Mewn cartrefi gofal hefyd—. Rwy'n gwerthfawrogi'r wefan sydd ar y gweill, a fydd yn gwneud pethau'n haws, ond a allwch chi hefyd ystyried sicrhau ei bod yn haws yn awr i ddarparwyr cartrefi gofal gael atgyfeiriadau drwy ofyn i'r cyngor ei wneud yn uniongyrchol, yn hytrach na gorfod mynd drwy Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru, sy'n peri mwy o bryder i rai o'r darparwyr cartrefi gofal pan fo aelodau o staff yn dangos symptomau a'u bod eisiau iddynt gael prawf? Gallai atgyfeirio uniongyrchol at y cyngor fod o gymorth yn hynny o beth.  

Yn olaf, rwy'n gwerthfawrogi'n fawr iawn yr hyn a ddywedoch chi wrth Rhun ap Iorwerth ynglŷn â'ch trafodaethau gyda byrddau iechyd ynghylch y paratoadau i gyflwyno triniaethau eraill sy'n ymwneud â'r ddarpariaeth ar gyfer materion nad ydynt yn rhai COVID, ond rwyf hefyd wedi cael gwybodaeth fod atgyfeiriadau canser gan feddygon teulu mewn rhannau eraill o'r DU, mewn rhai ardaloedd, wedi gostwng 75 y cant. A ydym yn ymwybodol o ba newid a fu yn y ganran o atgyfeiriadau canser—atgyfeiriadau canser brys—gan feddygon teulu, ac a wnewch chi ymchwilio i'r mater? Oherwydd efallai nad yw cleifion yn dymuno mynd at feddygon teulu yn awr, neu efallai mai'r rheswm yw bod meddygon teulu'n cael cyngor fod angen bodloni rhai mathau o amodau a'u bod felly'n petruso rhag atgyfeirio. Mae angen inni sicrhau nad yw'r rhai sydd ag anghenion brys o'r fath yn wynebu oedi oherwydd ofn gorlwytho'r system iechyd ar hyn o bryd.  

Thank you for the questions. I want to reiterate, on PPE, the point about the guidance needing to be followed. The last thing that we need to do is to encourage people to use PPE in larger quantities outside the guidance, because whilst that might provide some people who don't need it with more confidence, it will take away the supply from our front-line staff who really do. What we need is to make sure that each one of our front-line settings, including residential and domiciliary care, where they need to use PPE, have access to it. That's why we've taken the extraordinary step of using our public resources to provide PPE to independent businesses. We would not normally do that. If, in normal times, we were providing free of charge PPE to those going concerns, then people would have an entirely different set of questions, but it demonstrates this once-in-a-century threat that we are confronted with and the way that we are responding. 

On the process of referrals, I'm happy to report that that has already improved. And, as I've said, we've heard directly from local government that a much larger number of referrals are being made of workers in the care sector. It's important to me those aren't just people employed by local authorities directly but people in the independent sector, as Dai Rees highlights. So we need to make sure that they have referrals that are speeded through, whether through the local authority or directly, to make sure that they're provided with the test and promptly. Again, the figures that we've published today should give some confidence that those results are then provided quickly.  

On the particular point on cancer referrals, I recognise Dai Rees's longstanding interest in the work of the country on improving cancer outcomes, and it's one of the things that I am concerned about to make sure that urgent referrals where urgent care is needed don't get put to one side. That's already one of the things I've asked the service to look into as part of my concern to understand accurately the picture, and then not just to present that picture but actually to do something about it; to encourage people to come forward to address their very real healthcare need because, as we know, late referral, late recognition of cancer often leads to much more radical treatment and actually compromises the best prospects of people having a good outcome. So, they're definitely points that I want to take up, and you'll hear more from me over the coming weeks on the work that is being done to do just that, and I hope that provides an answer to Dai's question. 

Diolch am y cwestiynau. Hoffwn ailadrodd y pwynt, ar gyfarpar diogelu personol, ynglŷn â'r angen i ddilyn y canllawiau. Y peth olaf y mae angen inni ei wneud yw annog pobl i ddefnyddio llawer iawn o gyfarpar diogelu personol oddi allan i'r canllawiau, oherwydd er y gallai hynny roi mwy o hyder i rai pobl nad oes ei angen arnynt, bydd yn mynd â chyflenwad oddi wrth ein staff rheng flaen sydd ei angen yn ddybryd. Mae angen sicrhau bod pob un o'n lleoliadau rheng flaen, gan gynnwys gofal preswyl a gofal cartref, lle mae angen iddynt ddefnyddio cyfarpar diogelu personol, yn ei gael. Dyna pam ein bod wedi cymryd y cam eithriadol o ddefnyddio ein hadnoddau cyhoeddus i ddarparu cyfarpar diogelu personol i fusnesau annibynnol. Ni fyddem yn gwneud hynny fel arfer. Ar adeg arferol, pe baem yn darparu cyfarpar diogelu am ddim i'r rheini, byddai gan bobl set hollol wahanol o gwestiynau, ond mae'n dangos y bygythiad unwaith mewn canrif hwn sy'n ein hwynebu a'r ffordd rydym yn ymateb.  

Ar y broses atgyfeirio, rwy'n hapus i adrodd bod hynny eisoes wedi gwella. Ac fel y dywedais, clywsom yn uniongyrchol gan lywodraeth leol fod nifer lawer mwy o atgyfeiriadau'n cael eu gwneud ar gyfer gweithwyr yn y sector gofal. Mae'n bwysig i mi nad pobl a gyflogir yn uniongyrchol gan awdurdodau lleol yn unig yw'r rheini, ond pobl yn y sector annibynnol, fel y mae Dai Rees yn pwysleisio. Felly mae angen i ni wneud yn siŵr eu bod yn cael atgyfeiriadau cyflymach, boed hynny drwy'r awdurdod lleol neu'n uniongyrchol, i wneud yn siŵr eu bod yn cael y prawf yn brydlon. Unwaith eto, dylai'r ffigurau rydym wedi'u cyhoeddi heddiw roi rhywfaint o hyder fod y canlyniadau hynny'n cael eu darparu'n gyflym wedyn.    

Ar y pwynt penodol am atgyfeiriadau canser, rwy'n cydnabod diddordeb hirsefydlog Dai Rees yng ngwaith y wlad ar wella canlyniadau canser, ac mae'n un o'r pethau rwy'n poeni amdano i wneud yn siŵr nad yw atgyfeiriadau brys lle mae angen gofal brys yn cael eu gwthio i'r naill ochr. Mae hynny eisoes yn un o'r pethau rwyf wedi gofyn i'r gwasanaeth ymchwilio iddo yn rhan o fy awydd i ddeall y darlun yn gywir, ac yna nid yn unig i gyflwyno'r darlun hwnnw ond i wneud rhywbeth am y peth; annog pobl i gamu ymlaen i allu rhoi sylw i'w hangen gofal iechyd real iawn oherwydd, fel y gwyddom, mae atgyfeirio hwyr, adnabod canser yn hwyr yn aml yn arwain at driniaeth lawer mwy radical ac yn peryglu'r rhagolygon gorau i bobl allu cael canlyniad da. Felly, maent yn bendant yn bwyntiau rwyf am fynd ar eu trywydd, a byddwch yn clywed mwy gennyf dros yr wythnosau nesaf am y gwaith a wneir ar hynny, ac rwy'n gobeithio bod hynny'n ateb cwestiwn Dai.  


I think the reality, Minister, is that far too many people simply do not have PPE at the front line. Again, what I'm hearing this afternoon is almost a denial of the reality of the situation. So, my question is a very simple one: what did you do to ensure that PPE was ordered in January and February, and how much PPE was ordered for the Welsh NHS during that period? 

Credaf mai'r realiti, Weinidog, yw bod llawer gormod o bobl ar y rheng flaen heb gyfarpar diogelu personol. Unwaith eto, mae'r hyn rwy'n ei glywed y prynhawn yma bron â bod yn gwadu realiti'r sefyllfa. Felly, mae fy nghwestiwn yn un syml iawn: beth a wnaethoch i sicrhau bod cyfarpar diogelu personol yn cael ei archebu ym mis Ionawr a mis Chwefror, a faint o gyfarpar diogelu personol a gafodd ei archebu ar gyfer GIG Cymru yn ystod y cyfnod hwnnw?

As Mr McEvoy will understand, I don't have those particular figures at my fingertips, but I can absolutely confirm there's been no complacency and no denial on the scale of the challenge that we face, and if he'd just listened to the statement and the questions that I've answered in public on a range of occasions, we've distributed millions of additional items across health and social care. The 16.2 million items that have already been distributed from our pandemic stocks represent a huge additional influx of PPE across our system, and the work is tireless from our staff and people in the sector outside of the Government. And I want to pay tribute to them for the extraordinary efforts they are making to make sure that our front-line staff are properly equipped with PPE in what is an unprecedented global situation. 

Fel y bydd Mr McEvoy yn deall, nid oes gennyf y ffigurau penodol hynny wrth law, ond gallaf gadarnhau'n bendant na fu unrhyw laesu dwylo na gwadu maint yr her sy'n ein hwynebu, a phe bai ond wedi gwrando ar y datganiad a'r cwestiynau rwyf wedi'u hateb yn gyhoeddus ar amryw o achlysuron, rydym wedi dosbarthu miliynau o eitemau ychwanegol ar draws iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol. Mae'r 16.2 miliwn o eitemau sydd eisoes wedi'u dosbarthu o'n stociau pandemig yn fewnlif ychwanegol enfawr o gyfarpar diogelu personol ar draws ein system, ac mae'r gwaith yn ddiflino gan ein staff a phobl yn y sector y tu allan i'r Llywodraeth. Ac rwyf am dalu teyrnged iddynt am yr ymdrechion eithriadol y maent yn eu gwneud i sicrhau bod ein staff rheng flaen yn cael eu harfogi'n briodol â chyfarpar diogelu personol mewn sefyllfa fyd-eang na welwyd erioed mo'i thebyg o'r blaen.

Thank you, Minister, for all the work you and your officials are doing at this time. Following the Welsh Government investment, the Grange University Hospital was due to partially open at the end of April. Although the extra 350 beds will be ready and available as planned, over the last few days it has been very welcome to know that the Aneurin Bevan University Health Board are unlikely to need to use the extra capacity. The health board have said that they will keep the situation under constant review in case evidence changes, and we must not be complacent. The health board, their dedicated staff and the community have been at the sharp end since early March, and I know that the additional staff recruited will be deployed to support the existing services. Can the Minister assure me that the experiences learned by Aneurin Bevan health board will be shared with others, and also what more can be done to urge members of the public that if they are having a heart attack or stroke, for example, to call 999 as critical beds are available?  

Diolch, Weinidog, am yr holl waith rydych chi a'ch swyddogion yn ei wneud ar yr adeg hon. Yn dilyn buddsoddiad Llywodraeth Cymru, roedd Ysbyty Athrofaol Grange i fod i agor yn rhannol ddiwedd mis Ebrill. Er y bydd y 350 o welyau ychwanegol yn barod ac ar gael yn ôl y bwriad, yn ystod y diwrnodau diwethaf mae wedi bod yn braf iawn cael gwybod ei bod yn annhebygol y bydd angen i Fwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Aneurin Bevan ddefnyddio'r capasiti ychwanegol. Mae'r bwrdd iechyd wedi dweud y byddant yn adolygu'r sefyllfa'n gyson rhag ofn y bydd y dystiolaeth yn newid, a rhaid inni beidio â llaesu dwylo. Mae'r bwrdd iechyd, eu staff ymroddedig a'r gymuned wedi bod ar y pen blaen ers dechrau mis Mawrth, a gwn y bydd y staff ychwanegol a gaiff eu recriwtio'n cael eu defnyddio i gefnogi'r gwasanaethau presennol. A all y Gweinidog fy sicrhau y caiff y profiadau a ddysgwyd gan fwrdd iechyd Aneurin Bevan eu rhannu ag eraill, a hefyd beth arall y gellir ei wneud i annog aelodau o'r cyhoedd, os ydynt yn cael trawiad ar y galon neu strôc, er enghraifft, i ffonio 999 gan fod gwelyau critigol ar gael?

Yes, thank you. I think there are a couple of points I'd make briefly in response, and that is that it's a good news story that Aneurin Bevan don't need to make use of the capacity that is available at the Grange now. That demonstrates the impact of our social distancing measure, but the important message about not having complacency about what we're doing now so that people don't suddenly throw away the gains that we have made. But it is there available for future use because we do expect that as we release social distancing measures, we may find more need coming into our system, and the point is well made about suppressed need. For those people who are avoiding coming into our system because they're concerned about coming into a hospital environment now, despite the fact that they have urgent care needs themselves, I want to reiterate that message again: if you have an urgent care need, the NHS is still open for business; we want you to come forward with your urgent care need. In some cases, it really can be the difference between saving someone's life or not. 

And it's important to make the point about learning from what's being done, and I think absolutely across the system we're looking to learn from the expansion and the way that Aneurin Bevan have coped. I think it's the wrong time now to have a fully fledged public inquiry; that would be a massive unnecessary distraction. We need to learn as we move, learn as we do, and of course there'll be a time when there needs to be a much fuller backward look about what's been done and why. I'm sure that this Parliament will want to play its part in deciding how to do that. 

Ie, diolch. Rwy'n credu bod un neu ddau o bwyntiau yr hoffwn eu gwneud yn gyflym mewn ymateb, sef ei bod yn newydd da nad oes angen i Aneurin Bevan ddefnyddio'r capasiti sydd ar gael yn y Grange yn awr. Mae hynny'n dangos effaith ein mesurau cadw pellter cymdeithasol, ond y neges bwysig am beidio â bod yn hunanfodlon am yr hyn rydym yn ei wneud yn awr fel nad yw pobl yn sydyn yn afradu'r enillion a gawsom. Ond mae ar gael i'w ddefnyddio yn y dyfodol oherwydd ein bod yn disgwyl, wrth i ni ryddhau mesurau cadw pellter cymdeithasol, y gallai fod mwy o angen yn dod i mewn i'n system, ac mae'r pwynt wedi'i wneud yn dda am atal yr angen. I'r bobl sy'n osgoi dod i mewn i'n system oherwydd eu bod yn pryderu ynglŷn â dod i amgylchedd ysbyty yn awr, er bod ganddynt anghenion gofal brys eu hunain, rwyf am ailadrodd y neges honno eto: os oes gennych angen gofal brys, mae'r GIG yn dal ar agor fel arfer; rydym am i chi roi gwybod am eich angen gofal brys. Mewn rhai achosion, mae'n wir y gall wneud y gwahaniaeth rhwng achub bywyd rhywun neu beidio.

Ac mae'n bwysig gwneud y pwynt am ddysgu o'r hyn sy'n cael ei wneud, ac rwy'n meddwl yn bendant ar draws y system ein bod yn ceisio dysgu o'r ehangu a'r ffordd y mae Aneurin Bevan wedi ymdopi. Rwy'n credu mai dyma'r adeg anghywir yn awr i gael ymchwiliad cyhoeddus llawn; byddai hynny'n tynnu sylw mewn modd hynod o ddiangen. Mae angen i ni ddysgu wrth i ni symud, dysgu wrth i ni wneud hynny, ac wrth gwrs daw amser pan fydd angen edrych yn ôl yn llawnach o lawer ar yr hyn sydd wedi'i wneud a pham. Rwy'n siŵr y bydd y Senedd hon am chwarae ei rhan yn penderfynu sut i wneud hynny.


First, I'd just like to say that this was made by a couple of asylum seekers for me. It's obviously not suitable for healthcare workers, but it's beautifully made, and it's the sort of thing that we could get, for example, our design technology students making. So, perhaps you could pass that idea on to the education Minister. 

A couple of questions: one is around PPE. There is clearly a global bidding war going on, and care homes are simply too small and far too busy to be engaging in that. So, it really is the role of government, both local and national, to ensure that we have the PPE we need. I think we shouldn't be shooting the messenger when Sir Martin Evans says that it is astonishing that an advanced, industrial country like ourselves isn't able to source PPE from within our own country. And I don't mean that we need to be producing all items of PPE in Wales; I mean across the UK we should be able to be self-sufficient in PPE. And as this coronavirus pandemic is going to go on for many months, we really do need to ratchet up our ability to produce it for ourselves, otherwise there's absolutely no hope for developing countries. I just wanted to ask a question on that, which is what thought, if any, has been given to making it safe to reuse certain items of PPE, because that is what is happening anyway by people on the front line who fail to get certain items when they need them. So, is there any evidence that some of it could be reused rather than disposed of immediately after being used?

My second question is around testing, because you say that you're confident that all the right people have been tested. Well, some of my constituents who are care workers have had huge difficulty getting tested simply because they don't have a car. You cannot turn up to Cardiff City Stadium or these other drive-in facilities if you don't have a car, and putting them in a taxi doesn't meet the social distancing guidelines for someone with suspected COVID-19. But by not providing this testing, we are delaying the return to work of the individual who may not have COVID, and we are submitting their families to having to be self-isolated. And, so, as well as home testing—and I'd like a bit more information on the timescale for home testing—I wonder if you could tell us what possibility there is for mobile testing by the testers going to the care homes, and the prison, and other places where we know that people need to be tested in order to be able to make the work of care homes more manageable. 

Yn gyntaf, hoffwn ddweud bod hwn wedi'i wneud i mi gan ddau geisiwr lloches. Mae'n amlwg nad yw'n addas ar gyfer gweithwyr gofal iechyd, ond mae wedi'i wneud yn wych, a dyma'r math o beth y gallem gael ein myfyrwyr dylunio a thechnoleg i'w wneud, er enghraifft. Felly, efallai y gallech drosglwyddo'r syniad hwnnw i'r Gweinidog addysg.  

Dau gwestiwn: mae un yn ymwneud â chyfarpar diogelu personol. Mae'n amlwg fod brwydr geisiadau fyd-eang yn mynd rhagddi, ac mae cartrefi gofal yn rhy fach ac yn rhy brysur o lawer i gymryd rhan ynddi. Felly, rôl i lywodraeth, llywodraeth leol a chenedlaethol, yw sicrhau bod gennym y cyfarpar diogelu personol sydd ei angen arnom. Rwy'n meddwl na ddylem fod yn saethu'r negesydd pan fydd Syr Martin Evans yn dweud ei bod yn rhyfeddol nad yw gwlad ddatblygedig, ddiwydiannol fel ni'n gallu cyrchu cyfarpar diogelu personol yn ein gwlad ein hunain. Ac nid wyf yn golygu bod angen i ni gynhyrchu pob eitem o gyfarpar diogelu personol yng Nghymru; rwy'n golygu, ar draws y DU, y dylem allu bod yn hunangynhaliol mewn cyfarpar diogelu personol. A chan fod y pandemig coronafeirws hwn yn mynd i barhau am fisoedd lawer, mae gwir angen inni gynyddu ein gallu i'w gynhyrchu drosom ein hunain, neu fel arall nid oes unrhyw obaith i wledydd sy'n datblygu. Roeddwn eisiau gofyn cwestiwn am hynny, sef pa ystyriaeth a roddwyd, os o gwbl, i'w gwneud yn ddiogel i ailddefnyddio rhai eitemau o gyfarpar diogelu personol, oherwydd dyna sy'n digwydd beth bynnag gan bobl ar y rheng flaen sy'n methu cael eitemau penodol pan fydd eu hangen arnynt. Felly, a oes unrhyw dystiolaeth y gellid ailddefnyddio rhywfaint ohono yn hytrach na'i waredu yn syth ar ôl ei ddefnyddio?

Mae fy ail gwestiwn yn ymwneud â phrofion, oherwydd rydych chi'n dweud eich bod yn hyderus fod yr holl bobl iawn wedi cael profion. Wel, mae rhai o fy etholwyr sy'n weithwyr gofal wedi cael anhawster mawr i gael prawf, a hynny'n unig am nad oes ganddynt gar. Ni allwch fynd i Stadiwm Dinas Caerdydd neu gyfleusterau profi drwy ffenest y car eraill os nad oes gennych gar, ac nid yw eu rhoi mewn tacsi yn cyd-fynd â'r canllawiau cadw pellter cymdeithasol ar gyfer rhywun yr amheuir bod COVID-19 arnynt. Ond drwy beidio â darparu'r profion hyn, rydym yn cadw unigolion sydd heb COVID rhag dychwelyd i'w gwaith, ac rydym yn gorfodi eu teuluoedd i hunanynysu. Ac felly, yn ogystal â chynnal profion yn y cartref—a hoffwn gael ychydig mwy o wybodaeth am yr amserlen ar gyfer cynnal profion yn y cartref—tybed a allech ddweud wrthym pa bosibilrwydd sydd yna o gynnal profion symudol gan brofwyr sy'n mynd i'r cartrefi gofal, a'r carchar, a mannau eraill lle gwyddom fod angen profi pobl er mwyn gallu gwneud gwaith cartrefi gofal yn haws.  

Thank you for that final set of questions. On PPE, I just want to reiterate that we're taking an approach to pursue all leads and working constructively with other nations in the UK, because it's the responsible thing to do. And, in normal times, we'd be engaging in politics as normal. I think it's time to put all of that decisively to one side to get the right equipment for our staff. And this isn't about shooting the messenger when it comes to what Martin Evans said. It's not the view of Cardiff University that his judgment is one that applies to the work and the nature of our partnership with that university. It is a reality, though, of the fact that the global supply chains, which we have become used to having and delivering for us, have been interrupted significantly in a way that was not predictable even a short distance into the past. That's why so many Welsh manufacturers have responded to the call to change the way that they deliver goods to actually manufacture PPE and goods that we know that we need. And, of course, in terms of looking back and learning lessons, we need to look forward to understand what local supply chains we have to provide greater resilience for the supply of PPE across our health and social care system, and that is a point that is well understood within and outside the Government.

In terms of the reuse of PPE, it is possible that some PPE can be used, for example, in dentistry as a regular part of making use of some of the eye protectors that they wear. But that isn't a politically led choice or process; that's actually got to come on the basis of the evidence of what's safe, because if I decide and try to say now we should be reusing certain forms of PPE, that is not going to have the level of confidence that staff will understandably want, or indeed the public. Those are definite, professionally led conversations that are taking place about whether there is the potential for more reuse of PPE. 

And, on testing, we don't just have drive-in testing facilities as you know. So, for example, we do think we're getting closer to home testing. You'll have heard some of the publicity this week about home-testing kits that are being developed here in Wales. And that's certainly part of our plan, to want to be able to exploit those—that point-of-care testing—so we don't have to wait a long period of time to get from referral to test to result. But also community testing services that already exist across Wales do include people going to other people's places of work or, indeed, their homes. That's already taking place in the here and now, and that's part of the infrastructure we already have, and we're looking at trying to expand that again into the future.

Diolch am y set olaf honno o gwestiynau. Ar gyfarpar diogelu personol, rwyf am ailadrodd ein bod yn mynd ar drywydd pob awgrym ac yn gweithio'n adeiladol gyda gwledydd eraill y DU, am mai dyna'r peth cyfrifol i'w wneud. Ac ar adegau arferol, fe fyddem yn ymwneud â gwleidyddiaeth yn ôl yr arfer. Rwy'n credu ei bod yn bryd rhoi popeth felly o'r neilltu yn bendant er mwyn sicrhau'r cyfarpar cywir ar gyfer ein staff. Ac nid yw'n fater o saethu'r negesydd o ran yr hyn a ddywedodd Martin Evans. Nid yw Prifysgol Caerdydd o'r farn fod ei safbwynt yn un sy'n berthnasol i waith a natur ein partneriaeth â'r brifysgol honno. Mae'n wir, fodd bynnag, fod y cadwyni cyflenwi byd-eang y daethom i arfer â'u cael yn darparu ar ein cyfer, wedi cael eu tarfu'n sylweddol mewn modd na ellid ei ragweld hyd yn oed yn y gorffennol agos. Dyna pam y mae cymaint o weithgynhyrchwyr Cymru wedi ymateb i'r alwad i newid y ffordd y maent yn cyflenwi nwyddau er mwyn cynhyrchu cyfarpar diogelu personol a nwyddau y gwyddom ein bod eu hangen. Ac wrth gwrs, o ran edrych yn ôl a dysgu gwersi, mae angen i ni edrych ymlaen er mwyn deall pa gadwyni cyflenwi lleol sydd gennym i ddarparu mwy o allu i gyflenwi cyfarpar diogelu personol ar draws ein system iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol, ac mae hwnnw'n bwynt sy'n cael ei ddeall yn dda o fewn y Llywodraeth a thu hwnt.

Mewn perthynas ag ailddefnyddio cyfarpar diogelu personol, mae'n bosibl y gall rhywfaint o gyfarpar diogelu personol gael ei ddefnyddio, er enghraifft, mewn deintyddiaeth fel rhan reolaidd o wneud defnydd o rai o'r amddiffynwyr llygaid y maent yn eu gwisgo. Ond nid dewis na phroses a arweinir yn wleidyddol yw hynny; mae'n rhaid i hynny ddigwydd ar sail tystiolaeth o'r hyn sy'n ddiogel, oherwydd os byddaf yn penderfynu dweud yn awr y dylem fod yn ailddefnyddio rhai mathau o gyfarpar diogelu personol, ni fydd hynny'n rhoi'r lefel o hyder y mae staff ei heisiau, yn ddigon dealladwy, neu'r cyhoedd yn wir. Mae'r rhain yn sgyrsiau proffesiynol penodol sy'n mynd rhagddynt ar y potensial i ailddefnyddio mwy ar gyfarpar diogelu personol.  

Ac o ran profi, nid cyfleusterau profi trwy ffenest y car yn unig sydd gennym, fel y gwyddoch. Felly, er enghraifft, rydym yn credu ein bod yn agosáu at allu profi yn y cartref. Fe fyddwch wedi clywed peth o'r cyhoeddusrwydd yr wythnos hon ynghylch pecynnau profi yn y cartref sy'n cael eu datblygu yma yng Nghymru. Ac mae hynny'n sicr yn rhan o'n cynllun, i fod eisiau gallu manteisio ar y rheini—profion yn y pwynt gofal—fel nad oes rhaid i ni aros yn hir i symud o atgyfeiriad i brawf i ganlyniad. Ond hefyd, mae gwasanaethau profi cymunedol sydd eisoes yn bodoli ledled Cymru yn cynnwys pobl sy'n mynd i weithleoedd pobl eraill neu'n wir, i'w cartrefi. Mae hynny eisoes yn digwydd ar hyn o bryd, ac mae hynny'n rhan o'r seilwaith sydd gennym yn barod, ac rydym yn edrych ar geisio ehangu hynny eto i'r dyfodol.

4. Datganiad gan Weinidog yr Economi, Trafnidiaeth a Gogledd Cymru: Ymateb Coronafeirws (COVID-19)
4. Statement by the Minister for Economy, Transport and North Wales: Response to Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Yr eitem nesaf, felly, yw'r datganiad gan Weinidog yr Economi, Trafnidiaeth a Gogledd Cymru ar yr ymateb i goronafeirws. A chyn galw ar y Gweinidog, gaf i gadarnhau y bydd y Dirprwy Lywydd yn cymryd y Gadair ar gyfer y datganiad yma? Felly, dwi'n galw ar y Gweinidog i wneud ei ddatganiad—Vaughan Gething. Nage, nid Vaughan Gething, Ken Skates. [Torri ar draws.]

The next item, therefore, is the statement by the Minister for Economy, Transport and North Wales on the response to coronavirus. And before I call the Minister, can I confirm that the Deputy Presiding Officer will take the Chair for this statement? So, I call on the Minister to make his statement—Vaughan Gething. No, not Vaughan Gething, Ken Skates. [Interruption.]

I think Vaughan Gething needs to turn his microphone off. Vaughan Gething needs to turn his microphone off.

Rwy'n credu bod angen i Vaughan Gething ddiffodd ei feicroffon. Mae angen i Vaughan Gething ddiffodd ei feicroffon.

Can we ask Members, particularly the health and social services Minister—? Thank you. Sorry, Llywydd.

A gawn ni ofyn i Aelodau, yn enwedig y Gweinidog iechyd a gwasanaethau cymdeithasol—? Diolch. Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, Lywydd.

That's okay. I call on the Minister for economy to make his statement—Ken Skates. Can I just pause there? Can we have confirmation that the microphone for the Minister is now switched on, and that he can be heard? [Interruption.] We'll take a technical break for one minute, while we resume the Minister's microphone—Ken Skates's microphone.

Mae'n iawn. Rwy'n galw ar Weinidog yr economi i wneud ei ddatganiad—Ken Skates. A gaf fi oedi am eiliad? A gawn ni gadarnhad fod y meicroffon ar gyfer y Gweinidog ymlaen yn awr, a bod modd ei glywed? [Torri ar draws.] Fe gymerwn seibiant technegol am funud, tra byddwn yn ailddechrau meicroffon y Gweinidog—meicroffon Ken Skates.

Ataliwyd y Cyfarfod Llawn am 15:52.

Ailymgynullodd y Cynulliad am 15:53, gyda'r Llywydd (Elin Jones) yn y Gadair.

Plenary was suspended at 15:52.

The Assembly reconvened at 15:53, with the Llywydd (Elin Jones) in the Chair.

Okay, we are resuming the session, and I now call on the Minister for economy to make his statement—Ken Skates.

Iawn, rydym yn ailddechrau'r sesiwn, a galwaf yn awr ar Weinidog yr economi i wneud ei ddatganiad—Ken Skates.

Daeth y Dirprwy Lywydd (Ann Jones) i’r Gadair.

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Ann Jones) took the Chair.

Diolch, Llywydd. I'd like to start by thanking Members across the Chamber for the very positive discussions that I've had with colleagues, right across all parties, in the last few weeks. Some very constructive ideas have come from those discussions, many of which we've used to shape the support that we are now providing to businesses across Wales, and to individuals as well. So, I want Members to know just how very grateful I am for that advice and counsel.

Now, there can be no doubt of the scale of the economic challenge that lies ahead of us. The Office for Budget Responsibility’s reference scenario depicts UK gross domestic product falling by 35 per cent in the second quarter of this year. So there is no avoiding a recession, but if we are to avert a major depression, it is absolutely imperative that Governments across the UK do everything in their power to shelter business through the storm, and protect workers from the very great threat of unemployment.

Now, as a Welsh Government, we've made a commitment to play our part in that work. It is why we have re-examined our budgets and made tough decisions, right across Government, to put in place a new £0.5 billion economic resilience fund. Our fund provides significant financial support that is additional to that provided by the UK Government. It provides vital support for businesses, particularly those small and medium-sized firms that are so critical to the Welsh economy, and that isn’t available to firms in England. We've done this because we want to support good businesses in 2019 to be good businesses in 2021. We want to support people who had a good job in 2019 to have a good job in 2021.

Diolch, Lywydd. Hoffwn ddechrau trwy ddiolch i'r Aelodau ar draws y Siambr am y trafodaethau cadarnhaol a gefais gyda chyd-Aelodau o bob plaid yn ystod yr wythnosau diwethaf. Mae rhai syniadau adeiladol iawn wedi codi o'r trafodaethau hynny, ac rydym wedi defnyddio llawer ohonynt i lunio'r cymorth rydym bellach yn ei roi i fusnesau ledled Cymru, ac i unigolion hefyd. Felly, rwyf am i'r Aelodau wybod pa mor ddiolchgar ydwyf am y cyngor a'r cyfarwyddyd hwnnw.

Nawr, nid oes unrhyw amheuaeth ynglŷn â maint yr her economaidd sydd o'n blaenau. Mae senario cyfeirio'r Swyddfa Cyfrifoldeb Cyllidebol yn dynodi y bydd cynnyrch domestig gros y DU yn gostwng 35 y cant yn ystod ail chwarter y flwyddyn hon. Felly nid oes modd osgoi dirwasgiad, ond os ydym am osgoi dirwasgiad mawr, mae'n gwbl hanfodol fod Llywodraethau ledled y DU yn gwneud popeth yn eu gallu i roi cysgod i fusnesau drwy'r storm, a diogelu gweithwyr rhag bygythiad gwirioneddol o golli swyddi.

Nawr, fel Llywodraeth Cymru, rydym wedi ymrwymo i chwarae ein rhan yn y gwaith hwnnw. Dyna pam ein bod wedi ailedrych ar ein cyllidebau ac wedi gwneud penderfyniadau anodd ar draws y Llywodraeth i sefydlu cronfa cadernid economaidd newydd gwerth £0.5 biliwn. Mae ein cronfa yn darparu cymorth ariannol sylweddol sy'n ychwanegol at yr hyn a ddarperir gan Lywodraeth y DU. Mae'n cynnig cymorth hanfodol i fusnesau, yn enwedig y cwmnïau bach a chanolig eu maint sydd mor hanfodol i economi Cymru, ac nid yw hynny ar gael i gwmnïau yn Lloegr. Rydym wedi gwneud hyn oherwydd ein bod yn awyddus i gynorthwyo busnesau da yn 2019 i fod yn fusnesau da yn 2021. Rydym am gefnogi pobl a oedd â swydd dda yn 2019 i fod â swydd dda yn 2021.

So, last Friday, we opened the application process for the fund. The rate of applications in the days since has been unprecedented. More than 6,000 grant applications were received within just 24 hours of the launch. And as of 6 a.m. this morning, the economic resilience fund has received 5,842 microbusiness applications, totalling £56.7 million, and 2,267 SME applications that have totalled £127.3 million. So, overall, the total is 8,109 applications, totalling £184 million.  

I think that that demand speaks to the scale of the crisis that we now find ourselves in, and that's why I was pleased on Monday of this week to have responded with pace to release a further £100 million into this current phase of the economic resilience fund. It's worth saying that this work builds on the more than £440 million-worth of business rates grants that have now reached nearly 35,000 businesses across Wales.

Local authorities, Dirprwy Lywydd, have worked with urgency and with skill to process payments and are doing a fantastic job getting funding to businesses as quickly as possible. So, I'd like to  thank every single local authority who has played a part in this work.

I'd also like to pay further tribute to the staff at both Business Wales and the Development Bank of Wales, and to my officials, who've worked tirelessly, often in difficult personal circumstances, to develop the most comprehensive package of support for businesses anywhere in the UK.

We've sought to strike the balance between supporting as many enterprises as possible and making a meaningful contribution to each one’s survival. But in doing so, we are not losing sight of our longer term ambitions: the need to decarbonise the Welsh economy, the need to increase the incidence of fair work and the need to raise the skills levels of individuals across Wales. And that is why we have asked each recipient of our support to sign up to the principles of the economic contract.

The fund and criteria will be reviewed before the next phase is released. And I'd like to welcome, in addition, the action of the UK Government in terms of the job retention scheme that is now opened, and I welcome the extension of the scheme as well until at least the end of June. 

On Monday, the UK Government announced a package of support to innovative new companies that are not eligible for existing coronavirus rescue schemes. To qualify, a company must have raised £0.25 million or more privately in the last five years. It’s important, I think, that the UK Government monitors progress of the scheme to ensure that this threshold does not deter vibrant and viable businesses from accessing support.

In Wales, start-ups that were established prior to 1 March of this year will be able to apply for the economic resilience fund if they meet, of course, the eligibility criteria. This sits alongside the already well-established and high-quality package of pre-COVID support for small businesses that is available through the Development Bank of Wales and, of course, Business Wales’s start-up loans and comprehensive advice.

So, while a lot has been done, I also should say that there is still a lot to be done. There is an urgent need to see more of the promised lending guaranteed by the UK Government, getting to the front line. The UK Government must continue to support and press the high-street banks to be far more responsive to the needs of our businesses at this incredibly difficult time. I believe that there is a lot that high-street banks could learn from our very own Development Bank of Wales in the way that it has adapted to the current period that we're in—making sure that it has adapted its own policies and processes to get funding and support to businesses without delay.

So, Dirprwy Lywydd, we are all incredibly proud of businesses all over Wales—businesses that are stepping up to support the fight against COVID and to assist our NHS. There has been an overwhelmingly positive response from the business community to our call to action on PPE. Through it, we are now seeing innovative ways of working as businesses switch to making devices and products that will make a huge difference to our health and social care staff.

Those currently furloughed or out of work, though, need support too. And that's why, on Monday, I launched our new e-learning provision aimed at improving skills and supporting mental well-being by helping individuals to prepare positively for the future, whatever that may bring. Through our new offer we have made available a range of high-quality and free online learning resources from trusted providers like the Open University. This provision is supported by online careers advice and guidance available for use by individuals across Wales via the Working Wales website.

I now look forward to taking colleagues’ questions.

Felly, ddydd Gwener diwethaf, agorasom y broses ymgeisio ar gyfer y gronfa. Mae cyfradd y ceisiadau yn y dyddiau ers hynny wedi bod yn ddigynsail. Daeth mwy na 6,000 o geisiadau am grant i law o fewn 24 awr i'r lansiad. Erbyn 6 o'r gloch fore heddiw, roedd y gronfa cadernid economaidd wedi cael 5,842 o geisiadau gan ficrofusnesau, cyfanswm o £56.7 miliwn, a 2,267 o geisiadau gan fusnesau bach a chanolig eu maint, cyfanswm o £127.3 miliwn. Mae hynny gyda'i gilydd yn 8,109 o geisiadau, a chyfanswm o £184 miliwn.  

Credaf fod y galw hwnnw'n dyst i raddfa'r argyfwng rydym yn ei ganol ar hyn o bryd, a dyna pam roeddwn yn falch ddydd Llun yr wythnos hon i fod wedi ymateb yn gyflym i ryddhau £100 miliwn ychwanegol i gymal cyfredol y gronfa cadernid economaidd. Mae'n werth dweud bod y gwaith hwn yn adeiladu ar y gwerth mwy na £440 miliwn o grantiau ardrethi busnes sydd bellach wedi cyrraedd bron i 35,000 o fusnesau ledled Cymru.

Ddirprwy Lywydd, mae awdurdodau lleol wedi gweithio'n gyflym ac yn ddeheuig i brosesu taliadau ac maent yn gwneud gwaith gwych i drosglwyddo cyllid i fusnesau cyn gynted ag sy'n bosibl. Felly, hoffwn ddiolch i bob un awdurdod lleol sydd wedi chwarae rhan yn y gwaith hwn.

Hoffwn roi teyrnged unwaith eto hefyd i staff Busnes Cymru a Banc Datblygu Cymru, a fy swyddogion, sydd wedi gweithio'n ddiflino, yn aml mewn amgylchiadau personol anodd, i ddatblygu'r pecyn cymorth mwyaf cynhwysfawr i fusnesau yn unrhyw ran o'r DU.

Rydym wedi ceisio sicrhau cydbwysedd rhwng cefnogi cymaint o fentrau â phosibl a gwneud cyfraniad ystyrlon i oroesiad pob un. Ond wrth wneud hynny, nid ydym yn colli golwg ar ein huchelgeisiau mwy hirdymor: yr angen i ddatgarboneiddio economi Cymru, yr angen i gynyddu gwaith teg a'r angen i godi lefelau sgiliau unigolion ledled Cymru. A dyna pam rydym wedi gofyn i bob un sy'n derbyn ein cymorth ymrwymo i egwyddorion y contract economaidd.

Bydd y gronfa a'r meini prawf yn cael eu hadolygu cyn rhyddhau'r cymal nesaf. Yn ogystal, hoffwn groesawu'r camau y mae Llywodraeth y DU yn eu cymryd gyda'r cynllun cadw swyddi sydd bellach ar agor, ac rwyf hefyd yn croesawu'r ffaith bod y cynllun wedi'i ymestyn tan ddiwedd mis Mehefin fan lleiaf.  

Ddydd Llun, cyhoeddodd Llywodraeth y DU becyn cymorth i gwmnïau arloesol newydd nad ydynt yn gymwys ar gyfer cynlluniau achub coronafeirws sy'n bodoli eisoes. I fod yn gymwys, mae'n rhaid bod cwmni wedi codi £0.25 miliwn neu fwy yn breifat yn ystod y pum mlynedd diwethaf. Mae'n bwysig, rwy'n credu, fod Llywodraeth y DU yn monitro cynnydd y cynllun i sicrhau nad yw'r trothwy hwn yn atal busnesau bywiog a hyfyw rhag cael cymorth.

Yng Nghymru, bydd busnesau newydd a sefydlwyd cyn 1 Mawrth eleni yn gallu gwneud cais i'r gronfa cadernid economaidd os ydynt yn bodloni'r meini prawf cymhwysedd, wrth gwrs. Mae'r pecyn hwn yn cyd-fynd â'r pecyn cymorth hirsefydlog a safonol ar gyfer busnesau bach o'r cyfnod cyn COVID sydd ar gael trwy Fanc Datblygu Cymru ac wrth gwrs, benthyciadau dechrau busnes a chyngor cynhwysfawr Busnes Cymru.

Felly, er bod llawer wedi'i wneud, dylwn ddweud hefyd fod llawer i'w wneud eto. Mae angen taer i weld mwy o'r benthyca a addawyd ac a warentir gan Lywodraeth y DU yn cyrraedd y rheng flaen. Rhaid i Lywodraeth y DU barhau i gefnogi a phwyso ar fanciau'r stryd fawr i fod yn llawer mwy ymatebol i anghenion ein busnesau ar yr adeg hynod anodd hon. Credaf fod llawer y gallai banciau'r stryd fawr ei ddysgu gan ein Banc Datblygu Cymru ein hunain yn y ffordd y mae wedi addasu i'r cyfnod rydym yn ei ganol ar hyn o bryd—sicrhau ei fod wedi addasu ei bolisïau a'i brosesau ei hun i gael cyllid a chymorth i fusnesau yn ddi-oed.

Felly, Ddirprwy Lywydd, rydym i gyd yn hynod o falch o fusnesau ar hyd a lled Cymru—busnesau sy'n camu i'r adwy i gefnogi'r frwydr yn erbyn COVID ac i gynorthwyo ein GIG. Cafwyd ymateb hynod gadarnhaol gan y gymuned fusnes i'n galwad i weithredu ar gyfarpar diogelu personol. Yn sil hynny, rydym yn awr yn gweld ffyrdd arloesol o weithio wrth i fusnesau newid i greu dyfeisiau a chynnyrch a fydd yn gwneud gwahaniaeth enfawr i'n staff iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol.

Serch hynny, mae angen cymorth ar y gweithwyr sydd ar hyn o bryd ar ffyrlo neu'n ddi-waith. Dyna pam y gwneuthum lansio ein darpariaeth e-ddysgu newydd ddydd Llun gyda'r nod o wella sgiliau a chefnogi llesiant meddyliol trwy helpu unigolion i baratoi'n gadarnhaol ar gyfer y dyfodol, beth bynnag a ddaw. Drwy ein cynnig newydd, rydym wedi darparu ystod o adnoddau dysgu ar-lein o ansawdd uchel am ddim gan ddarparwyr dibynadwy fel y Brifysgol Agored. Cefnogir y ddarpariaeth hon gan gyngor a chanllawiau gyrfaoedd ar-lein sydd ar gael i'w defnyddio gan unigolion ledled Cymru trwy wefan Cymru'n Gweithio.

Edrychaf ymlaen yn awr at ateb cwestiynau gan fy nghyd-Aelodau.


Thank you very much, Minister. Russell George. Russell George?

Diolch yn fawr, Weinidog. Russell George. Russell George?

Russell has not been unmuted. 

Mae meic Russell wedi'i ddiffodd.

Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. 

Diolch yn fawr, Ddirprwy Lywydd.

Thank you, Minister. Can I thank you for your statement, and can I also thank you for your weekly meetings with opposition spokespeople? I think they're invaluable, because they allow us to raise issues directly with you, as well as being updated. So, that's greatly appreciated, Minister. Can I genuinely welcome your statement? I think that the financial assistance being provided by both the UK Government and the Welsh Government is very good to date. And also I think it's quite right what the First Minister said earlier today in that it's important that schemes complement each other from both Governments. 

The Chancellor announced his £250 million future fund for business start-ups and the tech sector, and I wonder how you are supporting businesses in Wales to attract funding from that particular scheme. I think it's also important to take into account the Enterprise Research Centre, which published some data I think in the last couple of days, showing that Wales could be the most significantly hardest hit, as a result of the coronavirus and restrictions brought into place, and they've provided some detail with that. But, clearly, I think you said yourself, Minister, we have a higher percentage of smaller businesses here in Wales, especially in rural Wales, so I think we need to be adapting accordingly. 

The economic resilience fund was very welcome. From my perspective, I was telling businesses 10 days or two weeks ago that were contacting me: 'Please, just wait. The economic resilience fund is going to fill those gaps that are left'. I appreciate that any Government can't fill all the gaps, but I was expecting more gaps to be filled than what is currently the case, as announced. But I very much hope that you are going to bring forward further schemes that will support those existing gaps that exist, and I'm particularly thinking of—and I'll go though a few of the gaps now— VAT, for example. Businesses that are not registered for VAT—these businesses are small business; most small businesses in Wales, or a large number of them, are not going to be registered for VAT—are currently excluded from the criteria. So, it would be good to have confirmation that, in the next phase of the scheme, those businesses are going to be serviced. I know that Paul Davies raised this with the First Minister earlier on, but the First Minister didn't give any detailed answer at that point. 

There's still the issue of those who are self-employed, sole traders who recently have become self-employed, and aren't able to produce accounts. And there's also the issue of those who haven't been able to put in tax returns yet or with an irregular turnover. I am particularly thinking of businesses that may invoice, so they had work in January, February, and invoices went out and they're now being paid in March and April, but they've currently got no work coming in. So, they aren't able to meet the criteria that's been set in the current EDF funding with regard to 40 per cent reduction loss in turnover or profit. 

Then, there are some issues around business rates that I hope you can address. I appreciate that this crosses over with your colleague, the finance Minister, but there are many businesses that are excluded, and it does seem to me that there needs to be some degree of tapering or accommodation for this. There are businesses, for example, with a rateable value of £12,500, that are excluded, whilst businesses with a rateable value of just a little bit less are receiving £10,000 in grant money, and there are businesses in the hospitality sector, for example, with a rateable value—. I know one with a £53,000 rating that's not able to receive any funding at all, whilst a business with just a rateable value of £49,000-odd would receive £25,000 grant funding. So, what degree of tapering might come forward in future Welsh Government initiatives of business rate relief?

On business rate relief as well, I'm very pleased that the Welsh Government got the money out to local authorities quickly, but there are some differences between local authorities in how they are delivering the funding direct to businesses, unfortunately. Some local authorities are doing well, such as Powys County Council in my own area, which got the money out very, very quickly. So, I very much commend that. But some local authorities are just not getting that money out, and other systems are far more bureaucratic.

The tourism sector—I know it's been mentioned earlier today. There's been a significant downturn in this particular sector, and I wonder what further Government support you can confirm that will come forward to support this particular sector. Obviously, very crucial. And also, businesses that have a seasonal turnover as well, especially some that need do demonstrate a loss in profit. Clearly, some won't be able to do that because of the seasonal nature.

Also, coming to the end, the recovery phase. If you could just confirm that the economic resilience fund is just for the here and now, or is it for the longer term? I assume that it's just for the here and now, and that the Government's going to come forward with a further larger package in terms of how we move beyond the current phase, and we get support out to help businesses change their business models, innovate through technology, et cetera.

And finally, the Development Bank for Wales—I'm very pleased that they got loans out quickly to people. It’s a good news story, perhaps, to a degree, that many businesses have been supported. But, of course, the funds have dried up, so what other additional funds can the Welsh Government lever in itself from its own resources or the UK Government's or European funding as well?

Diolch yn fawr, Weinidog. A gaf fi ddiolch i chi am eich datganiad, ac a gaf fi hefyd ddiolch i chi am eich cyfarfodydd wythnosol gyda llefarwyr y gwrthbleidiau? Rwy'n credu eu bod yn amhrisiadwy, gan eu bod yn caniatáu i ni godi materion yn uniongyrchol gyda chi, yn ogystal â chael y wybodaeth ddiweddaraf. Felly, mae hynny'n cael ei werthfawrogi'n fawr, Weinidog. A gaf fi roi croeso diffuant i'ch datganiad? Rwy'n credu bod y cymorth ariannol sy'n cael ei ddarparu gan Lywodraeth y DU a Llywodraeth Cymru yn dda iawn hyd yma. Rwyf hefyd yn credu bod yr hyn ddywedodd y Prif Weinidog yn gynharach heddiw yn hollol iawn, ei bod yn bwysig i gynlluniau gan y ddwy Lywodraeth ategu ei gilydd.  

Cyhoeddodd y Canghellor gronfa'r dyfodol gwerth £250 miliwn ar gyfer busnesau newydd a'r sector technoleg, a tybed sut rydych chi'n cefnogi busnesau yng Nghymru i ddenu cyllid o'r cynllun arbennig hwnnw. Rwy'n credu ei bod hefyd yn bwysig ystyried y Ganolfan Ymchwil Menter, a gyhoeddodd ddata yn ystod yr ychydig ddyddiau diwethaf, rwy'n meddwl, sy'n dangos mai Cymru fyddai'n dioddef fwyaf o bosibl o ganlyniad i'r coronafeirws a'r cyfyngiadau a roddwyd ar waith, ac maent wedi cynnwys manylion i gyd-fynd â hynny. Ond yn amlwg, rwy'n credu eich bod wedi dweud eich hun, Weinidog, mae gennym ganran uwch o fusnesau llai yma yng Nghymru, yn enwedig yng nghefn gwlad Cymru, felly rwy'n credu bod angen inni addasu yn unol â hynny. 

Roedd croeso mawr i'r gronfa cadernid economaidd. O'm rhan i, roeddwn yn dweud wrth fusnesau a oedd yn cysylltu â mi 10 diwrnod neu bythefnos yn ôl: 'Os gwelwch yn dda, arhoswch. Mae'r gronfa cadernid economaidd yn mynd i lenwi'r bylchau hynny sydd ar ôl'. Rwy'n sylweddoli na all unrhyw Lywodraeth lenwi'r holl fylchau, ond roeddwn yn disgwyl i fwy o fylchau gael eu llenwi nag sydd wedi digwydd hyd yma, yn ôl yr hyn a gyhoeddwyd. Ond rwy'n gobeithio'n arw y byddwch yn cyflwyno cynlluniau pellach a fydd o gymorth i lenwi'r bylchau sy'n bodoli, ac rwy'n meddwl yn benodol am—a byddaf yn rhestru rhai o'r bylchau yn awr—TAW, er enghraifft. Mae busnesau nad ydynt wedi'u cofrestru ar gyfer TAW—busnesau bach yw'r rhain; nid yw'r rhan fwyaf o fusnesau bach yng Nghymru, neu nifer sylweddol ohonynt, yn mynd i fod wedi cofrestru ar gyfer TAW—wedi'u heithrio o'r meini prawf ar hyn o bryd. Felly, byddai'n dda cael cadarnhad fod y busnesau hynny, yng nghyfnod nesaf y cynllun, yn mynd i gael eu gwasanaethu. Rwy'n gwybod bod Paul Davies wedi codi hyn gyda'r Prif Weinidog yn gynharach, ond ni roddodd y Prif Weinidog ateb manwl ar y pwynt hwnnw.

Mae problem o hyd gyda'r rhai sy'n hunangyflogedig, unig fasnachwyr a ddaeth yn hunangyflogedig yn ddiweddar nad ydynt yn gallu cynhyrchu cyfrifon. Mae problem hefyd gyda'r rhai nad ydynt wedi gallu cyflwyno ffurflenni treth eto neu sydd â throsiant afreolaidd. Rwy'n meddwl yn arbennig am fusnesau sydd o bosibl yn anfonebu, felly roedd ganddynt waith ym mis Ionawr, mis Chwefror, ac anfonwyd anfonebau allan ac maent yn cael eu talu ym mis Mawrth a mis Ebrill, ond nid oes ganddynt unrhyw waith yn dod i mewn ar hyn o bryd. Felly, nid ydynt yn gallu bodloni'r meini prawf a bennwyd yng nghyllid presennol y gronfa cadernid economaidd mewn perthynas â gostyngiad o 40 y cant mewn trosiant neu elw.

Yna, mae rhai materion yn ymwneud ag ardrethi busnes rwy'n gobeithio y gallwch roi sylw iddynt. Rwy'n sylweddoli bod hyn yn gorgyffwrdd â gwaith eich cyd-Weinidog, y Gweinidog cyllid, ond mae llawer o fusnesau wedi'u heithrio, ac mae'n ymddangos i mi fod angen rhyw gymaint o dapro neu gymhwysiad ar gyfer hyn. Mae yna fusnesau, er enghraifft, gyda gwerth ardrethol o £12,500, sydd wedi'u heithrio, tra bo busnesau sydd â gwerth ardrethol o ychydig bach yn llai yn cael £10,000 o arian grant, ac mae busnesau yn y sector lletygarwch, er enghraifft, gyda gwerth ardrethol—. Rwy'n gwybod am un gyda gwerth ardrethol o £53,000 nad yw'n gallu cael unrhyw gyllid o gwbl, tra bydd busnes gyda gwerth ardrethol o tua £49,000 yn cael arian grant o £25,000. Felly, faint o dapro y gellid ei gyflwyno ym mentrau rhyddhad ardrethi busnes Llywodraeth Cymru yn y dyfodol?

Hefyd ar ryddhad ardrethi busnes, rwy'n falch iawn fod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi trosglwyddo'r arian i awdurdodau lleol yn gyflym, ond yn anffodus, mae peth gwahaniaeth rhwng awdurdodau lleol o ran sut y maent yn darparu'r cyllid yn uniongyrchol i fusnesau. Mae rhai awdurdodau lleol yn gwneud yn dda, megis Cyngor Sir Powys yn fy ardal i, a drosglwyddodd yr arian yn gyflym iawn. Felly, rwy'n cymeradwyo hynny'n fawr. Ond mae rhai awdurdodau lleol yn methu trosglwyddo'r arian hwnnw, ac mae systemau eraill yn llawer mwy biwrocrataidd.

Y sector twristiaeth—rwy'n gwybod iddo gael ei grybwyll yn gynharach heddiw. Gwelwyd dirywiad sylweddol yn y sector penodol hwn, a tybed pa gymorth pellach gan y Llywodraeth y gallwch gadarnhau y bydd yn cael ei gyflwyno i gefnogi'r sector penodol hwn. Yn amlwg, mae hynny'n hollbwysig. Hefyd, mae yna fusnesau sydd â throsiant tymhorol hefyd, yn enwedig rhai sydd angen dangos colled yn yr elw. Yn amlwg, ni fydd rhai yn gallu gwneud hynny oherwydd natur dymhorol hyn.

Hefyd, gan dynnu at y terfyn, y cyfnod adfer. A allwch chi gadarnhau mai yn y cyfnod presennol yn unig y bydd y gronfa cadernid economaidd ar waith, neu a yw yno'n fwy hirdymor? Rwy'n cymryd mai yn y cyfnod presennol yn unig y bydd ar waith, ac y bydd y Llywodraeth yn cyflwyno pecyn arall mwy ar gyfer symud y tu hwnt i'r cyfnod presennol, a'n bod yn cael cymorth allan i helpu busnesau i newid eu modelau busnes, arloesi drwy dechnoleg, ac ati.

Ac yn olaf, Banc Datblygu Cymru—rwy'n falch iawn eu bod wedi trosglwyddo benthyciadau yn gyflym i bobl. Mae'n newyddion da, efallai, i ryw raddau, fod llawer o fusnesau wedi cael cymorth. Ond wrth gwrs, mae'r cronfeydd wedi sychu, felly pa gyllid ychwanegol arall y gall Llywodraeth Cymru eu sicrhau o'i hadnoddau ei hun neu gyllid Llywodraeth y DU neu arian Ewropeaidd yn ogystal?


Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, and can I thank Russell George, both for his kind remarks at the beginning and for the questions that he's asked? I think the way that you, Russell, Helen Mary, David and I have been able to work over the last month shows that you can operate in a collegiate way across political parties without losing strong scrutiny of Government as well. So, I am very grateful for the way that we've been able to work together in assessing what is best for the country.

In terms of the questions that have been asked, I'll try to run through them in the order that they were asked. First of all, the future fund—the fund that was announced for start-ups. I've already said that there is a difficulty within the criteria for Welsh start-ups regarding the requirement to have raised £0.25 million privately in the last five years, and on top of that, of course, then money put in by the UK Government has to be matched by private investors, but if the money isn't repaid, then the UK Government will take an ownership stake in the company.

I know that the Government has reviewed the coronavirus business interruption loan scheme. I'm hopeful that it is monitoring very closely how effective this particular scheme is as well and, should it transpire that further revisions are required here, that it will make the necessary changes in order to assist businesses across the country, because at the moment, there is a risk that it would benefit primarily those in London.

It has to be said, though, that there are other alternatives that are impressing— that UK Government Ministers are considering, including using the existing research and development tax relief regime to bring forward the payment of significant sums of money. The money is already in the system, but it could be advanced sooner to support businesses.

It's worth saying that start-ups that were established prior to 1 March 2020 can apply for the economic resilience fund if they meet the criteria. So, that support is available to them, and that's additional, of course, over what businesses and start-ups would have in England. The development bank itself operates its two specific funds to assist with start-ups and specific sector, tech start-ups.

Now, in terms of the ERF, you are right to assume that this particular fund is for the rescue stage. As we now look at resetting the economy and recovering from COVID-19, we'll look at the most appropriate means of supporting businesses moving forward. That second phase of that tranche of £100 million will enable us to look at some of the remaining gaps and you've highlighted a number of them.

Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd, ac a gaf fi ddiolch i Russell George, am ei sylwadau caredig ar y dechrau ac am y cwestiynau y mae wedi eu gofyn? Rwy'n credu bod y ffordd rydych chi, Russell, Helen Mary, David a minnau wedi gallu gweithio dros y mis diwethaf yn dangos eich bod yn gallu gweithredu mewn ffordd golegol ar draws pleidiau gwleidyddol heb golli craffu cadarn ar y Llywodraeth hefyd. Felly, rwy'n ddiolchgar iawn am y ffordd rydym wedi gallu cydweithio wrth asesu'r hyn sydd orau i'r wlad.

O ran y cwestiynau sydd wedi'u gofyn, fe geisiaf fynd drwyddynt yn y drefn y'u gofynnwyd. Yn gyntaf oll, cronfa'r dyfodol—y gronfa a gyhoeddwyd ar gyfer busnesau newydd. Rwyf eisoes wedi dweud bod anhawster ynghlwm wrth y meini prawf ar gyfer busnesau newydd yng Nghymru ynglŷn â'r gofyniad i fod wedi codi £0.25 miliwn yn breifat yn ystod y pum mlynedd diwethaf, ac ar ben hynny wrth gwrs, mae'n rhaid sicrhau arian cyfatebol gan fuddsoddwyr preifat ar gyfer unrhyw arian a gyfrannir gan Lywodraeth y DU, ond os nad yw'r arian yn cael ei ad-dalu, bydd Llywodraeth y DU yn cymryd cyfran o berchnogaeth y cwmni.

Rwy'n gwybod bod y Llywodraeth wedi adolygu'r cynllun benthyciadau tarfu ar fusnes yn sgil y coronafeirws. Rwy'n gobeithio ei bod yn monitro effeithiolrwydd y cynllun penodol hwn yn agos iawn hefyd, a phe bai'n dod yn amlwg fod angen diwygiadau pellach yma, y bydd yn gwneud y newidiadau angenrheidiol er mwyn cynorthwyo busnesau ledled y wlad, oherwydd ar hyn o bryd, mae perygl mai i fusnesau Llundain y byddai'n fwyaf buddiol.

Rhaid dweud, fodd bynnag, fod yna ddewisiadau amgen eraill sy'n creu argraff—sydd dan ystyriaeth gan Weinidogion Llywodraeth y DU, gan gynnwys defnyddio'r drefn bresennol ar gyfer lleihau'r dreth ar ymchwil a datblygu i gyflymu'r broses o dalu symiau sylweddol o arian. Mae'r arian eisoes yn y system, ond gellid ei ryddhau'n gynt i gefnogi busnesau.

Mae'n werth dweud y gall busnesau newydd a sefydlwyd cyn 1 Mawrth 2020 wneud cais i'r gronfa cadernid economaidd os ydynt yn bodloni'r meini prawf. Felly, mae'r cymorth hwnnw ar gael iddynt, ac mae hynny'n ychwanegol, wrth gwrs, at yr hyn a fyddai ar gael i fusnesau a busnesau newydd yn Lloegr. Mae'r banc datblygu ei hun yn gweithredu ei ddwy gronfa benodol i gynorthwyo gyda busnesau newydd a busnesau technoleg newydd mewn sectorau penodol.

Nawr, o ran y gronfa cadernid economaidd, rydych yn iawn i dybio bod y gronfa benodol hon ar gyfer y cyfnod achub. Wrth i ni edrych yn awr ar ailosod yr economi ac adfer ar ôl COVID-19, byddwn yn edrych ar y ffordd fwyaf priodol o gefnogi busnesau wrth inni symud ymlaen. Bydd ail gam y gyfran honno o £100 miliwn yn ein galluogi i edrych ar rai o'r bylchau sydd ar ôl ac rydych chi wedi tynnu sylw at nifer ohonynt.

One of the biggest gaps that has occupied our thinking is the non-VAT registered microbusiness. Now, the reason that we built in that particular piece of criteria into phase 1 of ERF was to avoid significant fraud, because it enabled us to check the address of a business, the existence of a business. Moving forward, the Scottish Government have introduced a model that we were considering, which is essentially a bursary. That might be the option that we settle on. But one thing is for sure: we wish to address that particular segment of the economy.

In terms of sole traders that have recently taken up employment and some of the other gaps that Russell George highlighted, in many respects, these are welfare matters that may require the attention of officials who are concerned with the discretionary assistance fund, and across departments, we're looking at how we can utilise an enhanced discretionary assistance fund for the purpose of filling in some of these gaps. 

We had to set cut-offs at some point in terms of the level of grants that businesses would receive. In terms of tapering rates relief in the future, it's something that I'll certainly be discussing with my colleagues, principally the finance Minister. And I'd share Russell George's congratulations of Powys council, which has, I think, consistently, week on week, been at the front of getting grants out to businesses. In the first few days, I think within the first week, they managed to administer 2,000 grants, which was very impressive.

The UK Government has indicated that it will be publishing all of the English councils' performance, and given that that is likely to happen very soon across the border, I think it makes sense that we consider it here, but I've also asked UK Government to publish, if you like, a league table for the high-street back-ups with regard to the coronavirus business interruption loan scheme, so that we can check which of the banks really are stepping up and which are failing their customers.

The next stage of the Development Bank of Wales COVID-19 loan scheme could attract money from UK Government. We've certainly asked for it and the development bank itself has applied to become a CBILS lender. That would provide huge opportunity in terms of being able to provide more money sooner for Welsh businesses. It's quite a staggering fact that the Development Bank of Wales, in contrast to what's happening with CBILS, has assured us that it will be able to get money out of the door for all of the successful applicants by the end of this month. That's a pretty impressive achievement if they are able to deliver on that.

There will be, as we consider the reset and recovery, there will be huge opportunities. Of course, certain sectors will contract, certain sectors will change considerably, but there will also be many opportunities, and we wish to make sure that we've got the support mechanisms. There's a huge amount of thought at the moment going into this concerning how we can embrace and exploit emerging opportunities that will be driven largely by behavioural change. 

Russell George has identified one particular sector that will require a lengthier period of support—that being the visitor economy. I've already taken up a UK Government Minister's concern of the tourism sector and other sectors and sub-sectors that will likely require further support in the months ahead, particularly with regard to the job retention scheme.

I'm also aware of many conversations that have taken place that are involving the Deputy Minister for Culture, Sport and Tourism on a UK basis to examine what sector-wide support may be offered across Great Britain and Northern Ireland. There is a need, I think, once we begin to emerge from coronavirus, to consider what protocols as well need to be introduced in order to safely resume the visitor economy across Wales. Those protocols, if they were to be certified, could give assurance to customers and to visitors that businesses are complying with post-COVID-19 requirements in order to operate successfully, and I think that's the safest way to resume activities in this important sector.

Un o'r bylchau mwyaf sydd wedi mynnu ein sylw yw'r microfusnes nad yw'n gofrestredig ar gyfer TAW. Nawr, y rheswm pam ein bod wedi cynnwys y maen prawf penodol hwnnw yng ngham 1 y gronfa cadernid economaidd oedd er mwyn osgoi twyll sylweddol, oherwydd ei fod yn ein galluogi i wirio cyfeiriad busnes, bodolaeth busnes. Wrth symud ymlaen, mae Llywodraeth yr Alban wedi cyflwyno model y buom yn ei ystyried, sef bwrsari yn y bôn. Efallai mai dyna fydd yr opsiwn y byddwn yn ei ddewis. Ond mae un peth yn sicr: rydym eisiau mynd i'r afael â'r rhan arbennig honno o'r economi.

O ran unig fasnachwyr sydd wedi dechrau gweithio'n ddiweddar a rhai o'r bylchau eraill y tynnodd Russell George sylw atynt, mewn sawl ffordd, mae'r rhain yn faterion lles a allai alw am sylw swyddogion sy'n ymwneud â'r gronfa cymorth dewisol, ac ar draws adrannau, rydym yn edrych ar sut y gallwn ddefnyddio cronfa cymorth dewisol estynedig i gau rhai o'r bylchau hyn.  

Bu'n rhaid inni sefydlu torbwyntiau ar ryw bwynt ar gyfer lefel y grantiau y byddai busnesau'n eu cael. O ran tapro rhyddhad ardrethi yn y dyfodol, mae'n rhywbeth y byddaf yn sicr yn ei drafod gyda fy nghyd-Weinidogion, y Gweinidog cyllid yn bennaf. A byddwn yn rhannu llongyfarchiadau Russell George i gyngor Powys, sydd wedi bod ar flaen y gad yn gyson, o wythnos i wythnos, yn trosglwyddo grantiau i fusnesau. Yn ystod yr ychydig ddyddiau cyntaf, o fewn yr wythnos gyntaf rwy'n credu, llwyddasant i weinyddu 2,000 o grantiau, ac roedd hynny'n drawiadol iawn.

Mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi nodi y bydd yn cyhoeddi perfformiad holl gynghorau Lloegr, ac o gofio bod hynny'n debygol o ddigwydd yn fuan iawn dros y ffin, credaf ei fod yn gwneud synnwyr inni ystyried hynny yma, ond rwyf hefyd wedi gofyn i Lywodraeth y DU gyhoeddi tabl cynghrair, os mynnwch, o gefnogaeth y stryd fawr i'r cynllun benthyciadau tarfu ar fusnes yn sgil y coronafeirws, fel y gallwn wirio pa rai o'r banciau sy'n camu i'r adwy a pha rai sy'n gwneud cam â'u cwsmeriaid.

Gallai cam nesaf cynllun benthyciadau COVID-19 Banc Datblygu Cymru ddenu arian gan Lywodraeth y DU. Rydym yn sicr wedi gofyn amdano ac mae'r banc datblygu ei hun wedi gwneud cais i fod yn fenthyciwr cynllun benthyciadau tarfu ar fusnes yn sgil y coronafeirws. Byddai hynny'n cynnig cyfle enfawr o ran gallu darparu mwy o arian yn gynt i fusnesau Cymru. Mae'n ffaith syfrdanol fod Banc Datblygu Cymru, yn wahanol i'r hyn sy'n digwydd gyda'r cynllun benthyciadau tarfu ar fusnes yn sgil y coronafeirws, wedi ein sicrhau y bydd yn gallu trosglwyddo arian i bob un o'r ymgeiswyr llwyddiannus erbyn diwedd y mis hwn. Bydd yn eithaf trawiadol os llwyddant i gyflawni hynny.

Wrth inni ystyried yr ailosod a'r adfer, bydd cyfleoedd enfawr yn codi. Wrth gwrs, bydd rhai sectorau'n crebachu, bydd rhai sectorau'n newid yn sylweddol, ond bydd llawer o gyfleoedd hefyd, ac rydym eisiau gwneud yn siŵr fod y mecanweithiau cymorth gennym yn eu lle. Mae cryn dipyn o feddwl ar hyn o bryd ynglŷn â sut y gallwn groesawu a manteisio ar y cyfleoedd sy'n dod i'r amlwg a fydd yn cael eu sbarduno'n bennaf gan newid mewn ymddygiad.  

Mae Russell George wedi nodi un sector penodol a fydd yn galw am gyfnod hwy o gymorth—yr economi ymwelwyr. Rwyf eisoes wedi mynd ar drywydd pryder Gweinidog Llywodraeth y DU ynghylch y sector twristiaeth a sectorau ac is-sectorau eraill a fydd yn debygol o fod angen rhagor o gymorth yn y misoedd i ddod, yn enwedig mewn perthynas â'r cynllun cadw swyddi.

Rwyf hefyd yn ymwybodol o lawer o sgyrsiau a gafodd y Dirprwy Weinidog Diwylliant, Chwaraeon a Thwristiaeth ar sail y DU i archwilio pa gymorth ar draws y sector y gellid ei gynnig ar draws Prydain a Gogledd Iwerddon. Pan fyddwn yn dechrau ymadfer wedi cyfnod y coronafeirws, rwy'n credu hefyd y bydd angen ystyried pa brotocolau sydd angen eu cyflwyno er mwyn ailgychwyn yr economi ymwelwyr yn ddiogel ar draws Cymru. Gallai'r protocolau hynny, pe baent yn cael eu hardystio, roi sicrwydd i gwsmeriaid ac i ymwelwyr fod busnesau'n cydymffurfio â gofynion ôl-COVID-19 er mwyn gweithredu'n llwyddiannus, ac rwy'n credu mai dyna'r ffordd fwyaf diogel o ailgychwyn gweithgarwch yn y sector pwysig hwn.


Can I begin by echoing what Russell George has said and thank the Minister and, indeed, his staff, who have been very responsive to specific concerns that I and my colleagues have raised and also very open to new ideas and new suggestions? I would submit that this is a very positive model for the way in which a Government ought to be engaging with constructive opposition at this time, and I really appreciate the Minister for making sure that that's happened.

If I may just briefly raise some specific issues. I was very pleased to hear the Minister say that the economic resilience fund—he is very conscious that it doesn't meet all the businesses he'd like it to, particularly those businesses that don't register for VAT. I'm very pleased to hear him say that that will be kept under review. I wonder if the Minister can give us an indication today about when that might be able to happen, because as I know he's aware, those very small businesses are ones who may have less put by, they may be more vulnerable and arguably may need help more quickly than larger businesses that might have more robust relationships with their banks. And speaking of banks, I want to particularly welcome what the Minister has said about, as it were, a league table for the high-street banks, about those who are being helpful and those who are not. I'd say, more broadly, I think, that the people of Wales will remember those big businesses who conducted themselves well and they will remember those that have not, and I'm sure the Minister will agree with me about that.

In his statement, the Minister mentions the UK Government's furlough scheme, the job retention scheme, and I know that we're all very pleased that that's in place, but the Minister is aware that there are some issues, and there are some gaps, and I'm grateful for the opportunity that he's given me to provide him with some evidence about particularly those people who are left behind because they've changed employment at this time—their previous employers won't furlough them, sometimes perhaps because they left without leaving a positive relationship, and new employers who would wish to do so. I wonder if the Minister can update us this afternoon about the discussions that I know he's been having with the UK Government about this, and whether he feels that there is a possibility, now the main scheme is in place—the most obvious evidence being payroll—that there is any possibility of flexibility. And, finally, the Minister has acknowledged in his responses to Russell George that there are still some gaps, and I would say, in this context, that when you're making these big steps so quickly, there will be gaps; I don't think anybody is surprised in that.

Now, when the First Minister was questioned about related issues and thinking about where the gaps are and how they are to be filled, the First Minister talked about pressing the UK Government to fill those gaps, and I'm sure none of us would disagree with that, and we all acknowledge, of course, the limited resources available to the Welsh Government. But in the past, the Minister has said—and I think he has said really this afternoon in response to Russell George—that he will look to plug some of those gaps with Wales-only schemes if he has to.

I was interested to hear him again refer to the assistance fund, the discretionary assistance fund, and I wonder whether he can give some further consideration to using that fund to provide an emergency basic income to some of those people who will be falling through the gaps, because we can't make furlough schemes for everybody, and when he thinks he will have an assessment of how many businesses and how many individual sole traders are falling through the gaps and how soon a new scheme might be able to be in place to support them. Thank you.

A gaf fi ddechrau drwy adleisio'r hyn a ddywedodd Russell George a diolch i'r Gweinidog ac yn wir, i'w staff, sydd wedi bod yn ymatebol iawn i bryderon penodol rwyf fi a fy nghyd-Aelodau wedi'u codi a hefyd yn agored iawn i syniadau newydd ac awgrymiadau newydd? Byddwn yn awgrymu bod hwn yn fodel cadarnhaol iawn ar gyfer y ffordd y dylai Llywodraeth ymgysylltu â gwrthwynebiad adeiladol ar yr adeg hon, ac rwy'n gwerthfawrogi'r ffordd y mae'r Gweinidog wedi sicrhau bod hynny'n digwydd yn fawr iawn.

Os caf godi rhai materion penodol yn fyr. Roeddwn yn falch iawn o glywed y Gweinidog yn dweud bod y gronfa cadernid economaidd—mae'n ymwybodol iawn nad yw'n cynnwys yr holl fusnesau yr hoffai eu cynnwys, yn enwedig y busnesau nad ydynt yn cofrestru ar gyfer TAW. Rwy'n falch iawn o'i glywed yn dweud y bydd hynny'n cael ei adolygu'n rheolaidd. Tybed a all y Gweinidog roi syniad inni heddiw pa bryd y gallai hynny ddigwydd, oherwydd fel y gwn ei fod yn gwybod, mae'r busnesau bach iawn hynny'n rhai a all fod â llai wrth gefn, gallent fod yn fwy agored i niwed ac efallai y bydd arnynt angen cymorth yn gyflymach na busnesau mwy a allai fod â pherthynas fwy cadarn â'u banciau. A siarad am fanciau, rwyf am groesawu'n arbennig yr hyn y mae'r Gweinidog wedi'i ddweud am dabl cynghrair, fel petai, ar gyfer banciau'r stryd fawr, ynghylch y rhai sy'n helpu a'r rhai nad ydynt yn helpu. Byddwn i'n dweud, yn fwy cyffredinol, rwy'n credu, y bydd pobl Cymru yn cofio'r busnesau mawr a wnaeth ymddwyn yn dda ac y byddant yn cofio am y rhai na wnaethant hynny, ac rwy'n siŵr y bydd y Gweinidog yn cytuno â mi ynglŷn â hynny.

Yn ei ddatganiad, mae'r Gweinidog yn sôn am gynllun ffyrlo Llywodraeth y DU, y cynllun cadw swyddi, ac rwy'n gwybod ein bod i gyd yn falch iawn o weld hynny ar waith, ond mae'r Gweinidog yn ymwybodol fod rhai problemau, ac mae rhai bylchau, ac rwy'n ddiolchgar am y cyfle y mae wedi'i roi i mi ddarparu rhywfaint o dystiolaeth iddo am y bobl hynny'n arbennig sy'n cael eu gadael ar ôl am eu bod wedi newid eu gwaith ar yr adeg hon—ni fydd eu cyflogwyr blaenorol yn eu rhoi ar ffyrlo, weithiau efallai am eu bod wedi gadael heb fod y berthynas rhyngddynt yn gadarnhaol, a chyflogwyr newydd a fyddai'n dymuno gwneud hynny. Tybed a all y Gweinidog roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf inni y prynhawn yma am y trafodaethau y gwn ei fod wedi eu cael gyda Llywodraeth y DU ynglŷn â hyn, ac a yw'n teimlo bod posibilrwydd, gan fod y prif gynllun ar waith bellach—a'r dystiolaeth amlycaf yw'r gyflogres—o weld unrhyw bosibilrwydd o hyblygrwydd. Ac yn olaf, mae'r Gweinidog wedi cydnabod yn ei ymatebion i Russell George fod rhai bylchau o hyd, a byddwn yn dweud, yn y cyd-destun hwn, pan fyddwch yn gwneud y camau mawr hyn mor gyflym, fe fydd yna fylchau; nid wyf yn credu bod neb yn synnu ynglŷn â hynny.

Nawr, pan holwyd y Prif Weinidog ynglŷn â materion cysylltiedig a meddwl ynglŷn â ble mae'r bylchau a sut y gellid eu llenwi, soniodd y Prif Weinidog am bwyso ar Lywodraeth y DU i lenwi'r bylchau hynny, ac rwy'n siŵr na fyddai neb ohonom yn anghytuno â hynny, ac rydym i gyd yn cydnabod, wrth gwrs, yr adnoddau cyfyngedig sydd ar gael i Lywodraeth Cymru. Ond yn y gorffennol, mae'r Gweinidog wedi dweud—ac rwy'n meddwl ei fod wedi dweud y prynhawn yma wrth ymateb i Russell George—y bydd yn ceisio cau rhai o'r bylchau hynny â chynlluniau ar gyfer Cymru'n unig os bydd raid.

Roedd yn ddiddorol ei glywed eto'n cyfeirio at y gronfa gymorth, y gronfa cymorth dewisol, a tybed a all roi ystyriaeth bellach i ddefnyddio'r gronfa honno i ddarparu incwm sylfaenol brys i rai o'r bobl a fydd yn disgyn drwy'r bylchau, oherwydd ni allwn wneud cynlluniau ffyrlo i bawb, a phryd y mae'n credu y caiff asesiad o faint o fusnesau a faint o unig fasnachwyr unigol sy'n disgyn drwy'r bylchau a pha mor fuan y gallai cynllun newydd fod ar waith i'w cefnogi. Diolch.

Can I thank Helen Mary Jones again for her very kind and generous comments and the questions asked? We certainly don't have a monopoly on ideas within Welsh Government. We are seeking views, ideas and innovation from far and wide, and I've got to say, we have had a lot of constructive ideas from Members across the Chamber. I'm incredibly grateful to Helen Mary for those ideas and the intelligence as well that she and her office have been able to provide during this time.

Just reflecting on the group of individuals and small businesses that are falling through the gap regarding VAT registration, my aim is to detail phase 2 of the ERF in the coming 10 days to two weeks, so that we can essentially have a seamless movement from ERF phase 1 into phase 2, recognising that the current phase, with a requirement of, or an application total of over £180 million, will not last a significant length of time beyond—[Inaudible.] So, I do not wish to have a gap between phase 1 and phase 2 if it can be avoided. And I think you're absolutely right regarding the performance of high-street banks. Memories will live very long from this experience and people will judge and then make decisions on the basis of the performance of high-street banks and others. I do think it's right that the UK Government, if it's choosing to publish, if you like, a league table for local authority performance in England, also does the same with the banks. It's only fair, in my view, that that should be applied.

In terms of furlough—the reason I raise furlough is because, Helen Mary, you've identified a group of individuals who have fallen through the crack in terms of the cut-off date. We've been supported by the Scottish Government in our call for the date to be pushed back to 1 April. That would also capture a significant number of people who are seasonal workers within the visitor economy. I have to say, the discussions that I have with Ministers in the UK Government are always very amicable, constructive, they're open to our ideas, and, indeed, they've been able to announce changes to certain support packages based on our recommendations, based on the intelligence that we've been getting. So, they're currently considering that further extension to 1 April. A quad-call took place this afternoon during Plenary; I wasn't able to be on it so my colleague Lee Waters took my place. If there is any news about a possible extension to furlough that has come back from as a consequence of that call, I'll make sure that that information is shared with Members.

I just want to pick up on the question about to what extent we should be plugging gaps left by UK Government activities. There is only so much we can do with our finite resource. The UK Government really needs to be seen as the Government that has the extraordinarily deep pockets that we do not have, but that's not to say to say that we can't intervene in a Wales-only way—that's precisely what we did with the £0.5 billion economy resilience fund. Normally we spend—through the business and regions division of Government, business support and investment—about £30 million a year, so I do think that £500 million, £0.5 billion, demonstrates the scale of what we've done. But I think, when it comes to support such as an emergency basic income scheme, that would be incredibly expensive, probably unaffordable for the Welsh Government, certainly given the commitments we've already made. Trying to find the quantum of money that would be required for that would be nigh on impossible, but it is something that we have said to the UK Government should most certainly be considered. We're looking at how we can use the discretionary assistance fund to support more people. The demand for DAF at the moment is quite incredible, so even if we were to significantly increase the amount of money that's available through the DAF, it would not replicate, it would not offer what an alternative, emergency basic income scheme would offer. That's why we've been pretty consistent and clear in saying to the UK Government, 'Look, you can introduce this emergency scheme, it can be time-limited, but it will make a massive difference to very, very vulnerable people who are currently falling through the gaps.'

A gaf fi ddiolch i Helen Mary Jones eto am ei sylwadau caredig a hael iawn a'r cwestiynau a ofynnwyd? Yn sicr nid oes gennym fonopoli ar syniadau yn Llywodraeth Cymru. Rydym yn ceisio barn, syniadau ac arloesedd o bell ac agos, ac mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud, rydym wedi cael llawer o syniadau adeiladol gan Aelodau ar draws y Siambr. Rwy'n hynod ddiolchgar i Helen Mary hefyd am y syniadau a'r wybodaeth y mae hi a'i swyddfa wedi gallu eu darparu ar yr adeg hon.

Wrth fyfyrio ar y grŵp o unigolion a busnesau bach sy'n disgyn drwy'r bwlch mewn perthynas â chofrestru ar gyfer TAW, fy nod yw rhoi manylion am gam 2 y gronfa cadernid economaidd yn ystod y 10 diwrnod i bythefnos nesaf, fel y gallwn symud yn ddidrafferth yn y bôn o gam 1 i gam 2, gan gydnabod na fydd y cyfnod presennol, gyda gofyniad, neu gyfanswm ceisiadau o dros £180 miliwn, yn para am gyfnod sylweddol y tu hwnt i—[Anghlywadwy.] Felly, nid wyf yn dymuno cael bwlch rhwng cam 1 a cham 2 os gellir ei osgoi. Ac rwy'n credu eich bod yn llygad eich lle o ran perfformiad banciau'r stryd fawr. Bydd atgofion yn byw'n hir iawn o'r profiad hwn a bydd pobl yn barnu ac yna'n gwneud penderfyniadau ar sail perfformiad banciau'r stryd fawr ac eraill. Rwy'n credu ei bod yn iawn fod Llywodraeth y DU, os yw'n dewis cyhoeddi tabl cynghrair, os mynnwch, ar berfformiad awdurdodau lleol yn Lloegr, hefyd yn gwneud yr un peth gyda'r banciau. Nid yw ond yn deg, yn fy marn i, y dylid cymhwyso hynny.

O ran y ffyrlo—y rheswm pam rwy'n crybwyll ffyrlo yw oherwydd, Helen Mary, eich bod wedi nodi grŵp o unigolion sydd wedi disgyn drwy'r bwlch o ran y dyddiad terfyn. Rydym wedi cael ein cefnogi gan Lywodraeth yr Alban yn ein galwad am i'r dyddiad gael ei wthio'n ôl i 1 Ebrill. Byddai hynny hefyd yn dal nifer sylweddol o bobl sy'n weithwyr tymhorol o fewn yr economi ymwelwyr. Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud, mae'r trafodaethau a gaf gyda Gweinidogion yn Llywodraeth y DU bob amser yn gyfeillgar, yn adeiladol, maent yn agored i'n syniadau ni, ac yn wir, maent wedi gallu cyhoeddi newidiadau i becynnau cymorth penodol yn seiliedig ar ein hargymhellion, yn seiliedig ar y wybodaeth rydym wedi bod yn ei chael. Felly, maent wrthi'n ystyried yr estyniad pellach hwnnw i 1 Ebrill. Cynhaliwyd galwad bedair ochrog y prynhawn yma yn ystod y Cyfarfod Llawn; nid oeddwn yn gallu cymryd rhan ynddi felly fe gymerodd fy nghyd-Aelod Lee Waters fy lle. Os oes unrhyw newyddion am estyniad posibl i'r ffyrlo wedi dod yn ôl o ganlyniad i'r alwad honno, byddaf yn sicrhau bod y wybodaeth yn cael ei rhannu â'r Aelodau.

Hoffwn fynd ar drywydd y cwestiwn ynglŷn ag i ba raddau y dylem fod yn llenwi bylchau yn sgil gweithgareddau Llywodraeth y DU. Dim ond hyn a hyn y gallwn ei wneud gyda'n hadnoddau cyfyngedig. Mae gwir angen i Lywodraeth y DU gael ei gweld yn Llywodraeth sydd â'r pocedi eithriadol o ddwfn yn wahanol i ni, ond nid yw hynny'n gyfystyr â dweud na allwn ymyrryd mewn ffordd ar gyfer Cymru'n unig—dyna'n union a wnaethom gyda'r gronfa cadernid economaidd gwerth £0.5 biliwn. Fel arfer, rydym yn gwario—drwy'r is-adran busnes a rhanbarthau o'r Llywodraeth, cymorth busnes a buddsoddi—tua £30 miliwn y flwyddyn, felly rwy'n credu bod £500 miliwn, £0.5 biliwn, yn dangos maint yr hyn rydym wedi'i wneud. Ond o ran cymorth megis cynllun incwm sylfaenol brys, rwy'n credu y byddai hwnnw'n anhygoel o ddrud, yn anfforddiadwy yn ôl pob tebyg i Lywodraeth Cymru, yn sicr o ystyried yr ymrwymiadau rydym eisoes wedi'u gwneud. Byddai ceisio dod o hyd i'r swm o arian y byddai ei angen ar gyfer hynny bron yn amhosibl, ond mae'n rhywbeth rydym wedi'i ddweud wrth Lywodraeth y DU y dylid yn sicr iawn ei ystyried. Rydym yn edrych ar sut y gallwn ddefnyddio'r gronfa cymorth dewisol i gefnogi mwy o bobl. Mae'r galw am y gronfa cymorth dewisol ar hyn o bryd yn eithaf anghredadwy, felly hyd yn oed pe baem yn cynyddu'n sylweddol y swm o arian sydd ar gael drwy'r gronfa honno, ni fyddai'n atgynhyrchu, ni fyddai'n cynnig yr hyn y byddai cynllun incwm sylfaenol brys amgen yn ei gynnig. Dyna pam ein bod wedi bod yn weddol gyson ac yn glir wrth ddweud wrth Lywodraeth y DU, 'Edrychwch, gallwch gyflwyno'r cynllun brys hwn, gall fod am amser cyfyngedig, ond bydd yn gwneud gwahaniaeth enfawr i bobl hynod o agored i niwed sy'n disgyn drwy'r bylchau ar hyn o bryd.'


I'm being contacted by sole traders—driving instructors, photographers, plumbers—whose work has just ended. They've made enquiries and they've been told there is no support for them within the current system. Is that correct, and if it's not correct, can you ask whoever's giving that information out to tell them what support there is for them, because these are people who have just lost the whole of their income?

The second point I'd like to raise is about having a strategy for each economic sector. If I look at retail, for example, there are some companies who have never had it so good—online retailers and food retailers who don't have to have any special offers because they've just got a queue forming outside. They've never had it so good, it's like Christmas every week, whereas you've got other retailers who are doing no retail whatsoever.

We're seeing one major retailer failing each week, and I expect there to be far more than that of local retailers, who just will not be able to reopen. Is there anything that can be done to support some of these smaller retailers? We know their rates have gone—they've still got their rent and they've still got the other overheads. There's all of these payments they've got to make in order to just keep their building.

Mae unig fasnachwyr yn cysylltu â mi—hyfforddwyr gyrru, ffotograffwyr, plymwyr—i ddweud bod eu gwaith newydd ddod i ben. Maent wedi gwneud ymholiadau ac maent wedi cael gwybod nad oes cefnogaeth iddynt o fewn y system bresennol. A yw hynny'n gywir, ac os nad yw'n gywir, a wnewch chi ofyn i bwy bynnag sy'n rhoi'r wybodaeth honno i ddweud wrthynt pa gymorth sydd ar gael iddynt, oherwydd mae'r rhain yn bobl sydd newydd golli eu holl incwm?

Mae'r ail bwynt yr hoffwn ei godi yn ymwneud â chael strategaeth ar gyfer pob sector economaidd. Os edrychaf ar fanwerthu, er enghraifft, mae rhai cwmnïau nad ydynt erioed wedi ei chael hi cystal—manwerthwyr ar-lein a manwerthwyr bwyd nad oes raid iddynt gael unrhyw gynigion arbennig oherwydd mae ganddynt giw yn ffurfio y tu allan. Nid ydynt erioed wedi ei chael hi cystal, mae fel Nadolig bob wythnos, tra bo gennych fanwerthwyr eraill sy'n methu gwerthu o gwbl.

Rydym yn gweld un manwerthwr mawr yn methu bob wythnos, ac rwy'n disgwyl y bydd llawer mwy na hynny o fanwerthwyr lleol na fyddant yn gallu ailagor. A oes unrhyw beth y gellir ei wneud i gefnogi rhai o'r manwerthwyr llai hyn? Gwyddom fod eu hardrethi wedi mynd—mae'n dal i fod angen iddynt dalu rhent ac mae ganddynt y gorbenion eraill o hyd. Mae'n rhaid iddynt wneud yr holl daliadau hyn ddim ond er mwyn cadw eu hadeilad.


Can I thank Mike Hedges for his contribution? I think in terms of support for those who have just recently found they've got a massive fall in their turnover, their income, as a consequence of coronavirus, they can check their eligibility through Business Wales—the online portal—for the economic resilience fund. There's also the support from the UK Government for the self-employed.

I can't comment on each and every sector at this time, and each and every business that may find themselves struggling to identify whether there is support available. The best way for a business to do that for sure is to go over to the Business Wales website and to look at the various schemes that are available there. Specifically with regard to the ERF, which is linked—the criteria are linked—to significant reductions in turnover, there is an eligibility tool that is very simple. A sole trader could go through it in a matter of minutes to be able to ascertain whether they'd be eligible for that support or any other support that Business Wales is providing advice on.

In terms of the retail sector, this is another sector that, in all likelihood, will require a lengthier period of support from Governments. There is no doubt whatsoever, though, that because of behaviour change that's going to be inspired by this period, there will be a further acceleration of the shift towards a lot of online retail. That will have knock-on effects for the nature of the high street—what a high street or what a town centre is actually going to be for in the years to come. So, work is under way in the housing and local government department concerning the town-centre-first approach, and how we can reshape town centres against this new pressure of coronavirus and the likely impact that it will have on long-term consumer trends.

That said, we are also working on the retail sector—specifically, this is work in north Wales, where we've drawn together local authorities, the economic ambition board, the retail sector itself and Welsh Government on a piece of work that has three strands to it, which includes the future of the high street. I would certainly consider extending this piece of work to the other three regions of Wales, because I think it's going to be a vital, vital concern for local authorities, for Welsh Government and for the sector.

A gaf fi ddiolch i Mike Hedges am ei gyfraniad? O ran cymorth i'r rheini sydd newydd ganfod bod eu trosiant, eu hincwm, wedi gostwng yn helaeth o ganlyniad i'r coronafeirws, rwy'n credu y gallant wirio eu cymhwystra drwy Busnes Cymru—y porth ar-lein—ar gyfer y gronfa cadernid economaidd. Mae cymorth gan Lywodraeth y DU hefyd ar gyfer yr hunangyflogedig.

Ni allaf roi sylwadau ar bob sector ar hyn o bryd, a bydd pob busnes yn cael trafferth gweld a oes cymorth ar gael. Y ffordd orau i fusnes wneud hynny'n sicr yw mynd draw i wefan Busnes Cymru ac edrych ar y gwahanol gynlluniau sydd ar gael yno. Yn benodol mewn perthynas â'r gronfa cadernid economaidd, sy'n gysylltiedig—mae'r meini prawf yn gysylltiedig—â gostyngiadau sylweddol mewn trosiant, mae yna adnodd cymhwystra sy'n syml iawn. Gallai unig fasnachwr fynd drwyddo mewn munudau i weld a fyddai'n gymwys i gael y cymorth hwnnw neu unrhyw gymorth arall y mae Busnes Cymru yn darparu cyngor yn ei gylch.

O ran y sector manwerthu, mae hwn yn sector arall a fydd, yn ôl pob tebyg, yn galw am gyfnod hwy o gymorth gan Lywodraethau. Nid oes amheuaeth o gwbl, fodd bynnag, oherwydd newid ymddygiad a ysbrydolir gan y cyfnod hwn, y bydd y newid tuag at lawer o fanwerthu ar-lein yn cyflymu eto. Bydd hynny'n cael sgil-effeithiau ar natur y stryd fawr—diben y stryd fawr neu ganol tref yn y blynyddoedd i ddod. Felly, mae gwaith ar y gweill yn yr adran tai a llywodraeth leol ar y dull canol trefi'n gyntaf o weithredu, a sut y gallwn ail-lunio canol trefi yn erbyn pwysau newydd y coronafeirws a'r effaith y mae'n debygol o'i chael ar dueddiadau hirdymor defnyddwyr.

Wedi dweud hynny, rydym hefyd yn gweithio ar y sector manwerthu—gwaith yng ngogledd Cymru yw hwn yn benodol, lle rydym wedi dwyn ynghyd awdurdodau lleol, y bwrdd uchelgais economaidd, y sector manwerthu ei hun a Llywodraeth Cymru ar ddarn o waith sydd â thair elfen iddo, yn cynnwys dyfodol y stryd fawr. Byddwn yn sicr yn ystyried ymestyn y darn hwn o waith i dri rhanbarth arall Cymru, oherwydd rwy'n credu y bydd yn fater cwbl allweddol i awdurdodau lleol, i Lywodraeth Cymru ac i'r sector.

Thank you. David Rowlands. Can somebody unmute Mr Rowlands's microphone? There we go.

Diolch. David Rowlands. A all rhywun agor meicroffon Mr Rowlands? Dyna ni.

Okay, I've done it myself. Fine.

Thank you very much, Minister, for your statement this afternoon, but also can I thank you for the regular weekly updates we get as spokespersons, which are very comprehensive and, in fact, leave very little wriggle room for questions, if I could say that?

Can I also say that I think that many of the agencies you're using for the interventions, particularly local authorities, and the Development Bank of Wales in particular—can we all thank them for the tremendous work they are doing? It's without doubt that they are stepping up to the plate.

I would like to reiterate quite a few things that Helen Mary Jones and Russell George said with regard to the ability of certain sectors to access funds. It's very difficult to know exactly where the gaps are, and we appreciate that, and also the fact that we have to remember that this is public money and there must be safeguards with regard to the scrutiny of people applying for those funds. So, we realise that there may be delays in those funds coming through.

One of the areas that I want to specifically ask about is the construction industry, where there seems to be a very mixed bag of what's going on in the construction industry. For instance, what is happening on the A465 at this moment? Is there still progress going on there or are the works closed down? What's coming back to you from the construction industry with regard to what's happening with the COVID-19 crisis?

O'r gorau, rwyf wedi'i wneud fy hun. Iawn.

Diolch yn fawr iawn, Weinidog, am eich datganiad y prynhawn yma, ond a gaf fi hefyd ddiolch i chi am y diweddariadau wythnosol rheolaidd a gawn fel llefarwyr, sy'n gynhwysfawr iawn ac sydd, mewn gwirionedd, yn gadael fawr iawn o le i ofyn cwestiynau, os caf ddweud hynny?

A gaf fi ddweud hefyd fy mod yn credu bod llawer o'r asiantaethau rydych chi'n eu defnyddio ar gyfer yr ymyriadau, yn enwedig awdurdodau lleol, a Banc Datblygu Cymru yn benodol—a gawn ni i gyd ddiolch iddynt am y gwaith aruthrol y maent yn ei wneud? Heb os nac oni bai, maent yn camu i'r adwy.

Hoffwn ailadrodd cryn dipyn o bethau a ddywedodd Helen Mary Jones a Russell George ynglŷn â gallu sectorau penodol i gael gafael ar arian. Mae'n anodd iawn gwybod ble yn union mae'r bylchau, ac rydym yn sylweddol0i hynny, a hefyd y ffaith bod yn rhaid inni gofio mai arian cyhoeddus yw hwn a bod yn rhaid cael mesurau diogelu ar gyfer craffu ar bobl sy'n gwneud cais am y cyllid hwnnw. Felly, rydym yn sylweddoli y gall fod oedi cyn i'r cronfeydd hynny ddod drwodd.

Un o'r meysydd rwyf am ofyn yn benodol yn ei gylch yw'r diwydiant adeiladu, lle mae'n ymddangos bod yna gymysgedd mawr o bethau'n digwydd. Er enghraifft, beth sy'n digwydd ar yr A465 ar hyn o bryd? A oes cynnydd yn digwydd o hyd neu a yw'r gwaith wedi'i atal? Beth rydych chi'n ei glywed gan y diwydiant adeiladu o ran beth sy'n digwydd gydag argyfwng COVID-19?


Can I thank David Rowlands, Deputy Presiding Officer, for his questions, and again for his kind comments too regarding the discussions that we've had, and the contributions that Members across all parties have made in our fight against coronavirus?

I'll certainly pass on his thanks, which I'm sure are reflected across the Chamber, to local authorities, to the development bank and to Business Wales. The pressure that people within those organisations are under is quite incredible and often they are forgotten. Equally, civil servants—the pressure that they're under is just incredibly intense right now and, again, they're often not remembered amongst the applause for critical workers, but they really are doing their utmost to keep people safe and to keep our economy as healthy as it can be.

So, we're seeing actually that the Business Wales website is getting around about 0.5 million hits a week at the moment. It's quite incredible, the traffic to that site, and their staff are taking around about 250 to 300 calls each day—a really good committed team of over 40 people who are showing incredible compassion to people who are really stressed and anxious at the moment, trying to keep their businesses afloat.

Just moving on to how we spend the money, of course, you're right, we have to be concerned with fraudulent attempts to extract public money from the Welsh Government, and I've highlighted one particular area of support that have the criteria set in a way that would prevent fraudulent applications being made. It was the non-VAT registered group that unfortunately suffered as a consequence, but who we aim to be assisting in phase 2. But then there's the additional question of what sort of value—over and above keeping that company alive, keeping those people in employment—we're actually getting for the investment. 

Well, I'm pleased that we've been able to introduce the economic contract into the grants process. We want to make sure we get maximum value for investment. We will be revisiting those businesses in the months to come, ensuring that they can demonstrate how they've been able to decarbonise, what they've done, in the time since signing the economic contract, to improve the health and mental health and skills of the workforce, and how they've grown as well, because we want to make sure that we invest in those businesses that are viable for the future, that are responsible businesses.

I'm going to turn briefly, if I may, to the construction sector. We've been obviously engaged in discussions across all four nations regarding construction sites and in terms of ensuring that advice for workers is as clear and accessible as possible. But the picture, as you've alluded to, David Rowlands, is not 100 per cent clear and there are currently different interpretations across all four nations, and amongst the companies, which is not entirely helpful.

The regulations that we've published with the supplementary guidance, I think provide probably the clearest guidance anywhere in the UK. And, as a consequence of that, I've had discussions with the likes of the Civil Engineering Contractors Association and skills bodies representing the construction sector. As a result of that, I think we have seen construction in a number of areas being maintained in order to support the health and economic effort that's under way right now. So, for example, construction of the Grange hospital is continuing—it's close to completion. That will provide an extra 350 invaluable hospital beds. It's right that that construction project should be completed; the A465 as well—a vital piece of economic infrastructure that will be at the heart of the regional economy and the resurgence from coronavirus in the years to come.

Other projects such as Caernarfon's Bontnewydd bypass as well, we wish to see delivered in the time frame that it was meant to be delivered, because it is of such importance to communities and to the local economy. However, that guidance must be adhered to at all times on construction sites.

I think it's also fair to say that construction will play a pivotal role in the recovery phase. We know that investment in infrastructure can provide the fastest way to grow an economy out of a recession, and we are now facing a recession. So, we're looking at how we can use not just large-scale construction projects but often smaller scale projects that benefit supply chains a little more in order to maintain work now, but also to expand employment opportunities as soon as we can, once we're through this virus.

A gaf fi ddiolch i David Rowlands, Ddirprwy Lywydd, am ei gwestiynau, a hefyd am ei sylwadau caredig am y trafodaethau a gawsom, a'r cyfraniadau a wnaeth Aelodau ar draws pob plaid yn ein brwydr yn erbyn coronafeirws?

Yn sicr fe wnaf gyfleu ei ddiolchiadau, ac rwy'n siŵr eu bod wedi eu hategu ar draws y Siambr, i awdurdodau lleol, i'r banc datblygu ac i Busnes Cymru. Mae'r pwysau sydd ar bobl yn y sefydliadau hynny'n eithaf anhygoel, a chânt eu hanghofio'n aml. Yn yr un modd, gweision sifil—mae'r pwysau sydd arnynt yn anferthol ar hyn o bryd ac unwaith eto, nid ydynt yn cael eu cofio'n aml ynghanol y gymeradwyaeth i weithwyr hanfodol, ond maent yn gwneud eu gorau glas i gadw pobl yn ddiogel ac i gadw ein heconomi mor iach ag y gall fod.

Felly, rydym yn gweld bod gwefan Busnes Cymru yn cael tua 0.5 miliwn o ymweliadau yr wythnos ar hyn o bryd. Mae'r traffig i'r wefan honno'n eithaf anhygoel, ac mae eu staff yn cael tua 250 i 300 o alwadau ffôn bob dydd—tîm ymroddedig gwirioneddol dda o dros 40 o bobl sy'n dangos tosturi anhygoel at bobl sydd dan bwysau ac yn bryderus iawn ar hyn o bryd, yn ceisio cadw eu busnesau'n fyw.

Gan symud ymlaen at sut rydym yn gwario'r arian, wrth gwrs, rydych yn iawn, mae'n rhaid i ni ymdrin ag ymdrechion twyllodrus i gael gafael ar arian cyhoeddus gan Lywodraeth Cymru, ac rwyf wedi tynnu sylw at un maes penodol o gymorth lle mae'r meini prawf wedi'u gosod mewn ffordd a fyddai'n atal ceisiadau twyllodrus rhag cael eu gwneud. Y grŵp nad ydynt wedi cofrestru ar gyfer TAW sydd wedi dioddef o ganlyniad i hyn yn anffodus, ond rydym yn anelu at gynorthwyo'r grŵp hwn yng ngham 2. Ond wedyn mae'r cwestiwn ychwanegol ynglŷn â pha fath o werth—yn fwy na chadw'r cwmni hwnnw'n fyw, cadw'r bobl hynny mewn gwaith—rydym yn ei gael am y buddsoddiad mewn gwirionedd.  

Wel, rwy'n falch ein bod wedi gallu cyflwyno'r contract economaidd i'r broses grantiau. Rydym am sicrhau ein bod yn cael y gwerth gorau posibl o'n buddsoddiad. Byddwn yn ailedrych ar y busnesau hynny yn ystod y misoedd i ddod, gan sicrhau y gallant ddangos sut y maent wedi gallu datgarboneiddio, yr hyn y maent wedi'i wneud, yn yr amser ers llofnodi'r contract economaidd, i wella iechyd ac iechyd meddwl a sgiliau'r gweithlu, a sut y maent wedi tyfu hefyd, oherwydd rydym am sicrhau ein bod yn buddsoddi yn y busnesau sy'n hyfyw ar gyfer y dyfodol, busnesau sy'n gyfrifol.

Rwy'n mynd i droi'n fyr, os caf, at y sector adeiladu. Rydym wedi bod yn cymryd rhan mewn trafodaethau ar draws y pedair gwlad ynglŷn â safleoedd adeiladu a sicrhau bod cyngor i weithwyr mor glir a hygyrch â phosibl. Ond fel y nodwyd gennych, David Rowlands, nid yw'r darlun yn berffaith ac mae dehongliadau gwahanol ar hyn o bryd ar draws y pedair gwlad, ac ymhlith y cwmnïau, ac nid yw hynny'n fanteisiol iawn.

Rwy'n credu mai'r rheoliadau a gyhoeddwyd gyda'r canllaw atodol sy'n rhoi'r arweiniad cliriaf yn unman yn y DU. Ac o ganlyniad i hynny, rwyf wedi cael trafodaethau gyda Chymdeithas y Contractwyr Peirianneg Sifil a chyrff sgiliau sy'n cynrychioli'r sector adeiladu. O'r herwydd, rwy'n credu ein bod wedi gweld adeiladu mewn nifer o ardaloedd yn cael ei gynnal er mwyn cefnogi'r ymdrech iechyd a'r economi sydd ar waith ar hyn o bryd. Felly, er enghraifft, mae gwaith adeiladu ysbyty'r Grange yn parhau—mae'n agos at gael ei gwblhau. Bydd yn darparu 350 o welyau ysbyty ychwanegol amhrisiadwy. Mae'n iawn i'r prosiect adeiladu hwnnw gael ei gwblhau; yr A465 hefyd—darn hanfodol o seilwaith economaidd a fydd yn ganolog i'r economi ranbarthol a'r broses o ymadfer wedi'r coronafeirws yn y blynyddoedd i ddod.

Rydym am weld prosiectau eraill hefyd fel ffordd osgoi Bontnewydd, Caernarfon yn cael ei chyflawni o fewn yr amserlen a fwriadwyd ar ei chyfer, oherwydd ei bod mor bwysig i gymunedau ac i'r economi leol. Fodd bynnag, rhaid cadw at y canllawiau bob amser ar safleoedd adeiladu.

Rwy'n credu ei bod hefyd yn deg dweud y bydd y gwaith adeiladu'n chwarae rhan ganolog yn ystod y cam adfer. Gwyddom y gall buddsoddi mewn seilwaith ddarparu'r ffordd gyflymaf o dyfu economi allan o ddirwasgiad, ac rydym yn wynebu dirwasgiad yn awr. Felly, rydym yn edrych ar sut y gallwn ddefnyddio prosiectau adeiladu ar raddfa fawr, yn ogystal â phrosiectau llai o faint yn aml hefyd a fydd o ychydig mwy o fudd i gadwyni cyflenwi er mwyn cynnal gwaith yn awr, ond hefyd i ehangu cyfleoedd cyflogaeth cyn gynted ag y gallwn, pan fyddwn wedi dod trwy gyfnod y feirws.


Thank you very much. Can I just put the usual statement out that we've had a major speaker from each of the parties, so can the rest of you just ask your questions? We've got a number of people who want to ask their questions of the Minister for economy, so it's really down to you as to how many I can call. Nick Ramsay.

Diolch yn fawr iawn. A gaf fi roi'r datganiad arferol ein bod wedi cael prif siaradwr gan bob un o'r pleidiau, felly a all y gweddill ohonoch ofyn eich cwestiynau'n unig? Mae gennym nifer o bobl sydd eisiau gofyn eu cwestiynau i Weinidog yr economi, felly mater i chi yw sawl un y gallaf eu galw. Nick Ramsay.

[Inaudible.]—Dirprwy Lywydd, and can I concur with previous sentiments that we're thinking of those on the front line at the moment in our public services? And I know that the Minister for economy has stated that as well.

If I could just ask a couple of questions about the economy specifically, then transport, Minister. First of all, a number of speakers, including Russ George, have spoken about the problem of some businesses that feel that they're falling through the gaps, as it were. One of those that I spoke to recently, one business owner, is concerned that, if you qualify for rate relief, that can exclude you from the resilience fund and you can go around in circles. So, I wonder if you could clarify the situation there.

Also, I've been contacted by the owner of a soft play centre in Abergavenny only today, and she's had concerns about the criteria for applying for emergency funding, on the basis that I think you either have to be hospitality or leisure, and her business fits into neither of those. In fact, it probably fits into both and, clearly, a soft play centre, it may be something that isn't seen as important as other facilities at certain points in time, but, of course, parents, children, when we come out of this problem time that we're in, those people will be relying on it; parents will be relying on that sort of educational and play experience for their children. So, I wonder if you could look again at the categories and those businesses that might not fit strictly into one category.

And, finally on the economy, the self-employed—a local businessman, again concerned that, to be eligible for Welsh Government emergency funding, you have to have an average profit, I think, or show an average profit, over three years, and he was concerned that, actually, it's the last year that is most specific to him. So, I don't know whether you could, or ask your officials to, look into whether there could be some exceptions made in terms of the profitability of businesses.

Secondly, the second area I wanted to just mention briefly was transport and PPE availability. Firstly, public transport: a key worker at the Heath hospital who I know waited 75 minutes the other night for a bus home. I just wonder what's being done to support the bus industry at this time, particularly when it comes to our key workers and providing them transport back and forth; they're on the front line. And, of course, the bus drivers themselves and the staff with Transport for Wales—they're on the front line as well, and I wonder whether PPE has been considered for them. I know there are stresses and strains on that at the moment, but that might be something to look at going forward.

And the haulage industry, which some speakers have mentioned, and delivery drivers—Amazon and the like—they're working very hard for companies at the moment, and they are, probably, in many cases, keeping the economy moving in terms of people getting their supplies and people getting their shopping. So, I just wonder what help is being made available to companies like that to provide adequate protection for their drivers and for their staff.

Very finally, Minister, on the issue of social distancing, it's a very difficult thing to achieve on public transport, so I just wonder how you're liaising with Transport for Wales to make sure that, when it does come to this, and, indeed, when we do start coming out of the lockdown, as, hopefully, we will at some point, if there are still any social distancing implications in place, then Transport for Wales and public transport will be given the sort of support and guidance that they need.

[Anghlywadwy]—Ddirprwy Lywydd, ac a gaf fi gytuno â'r datganiadau blaenorol ein bod yn meddwl am y rheini ar y rheng flaen ar hyn o bryd yn ein gwasanaethau cyhoeddus? A gwn fod Gweinidog yr economi wedi dweud hynny hefyd.

Os caf ofyn ychydig o gwestiynau am yr economi'n benodol, yna trafnidiaeth, Weinidog. Yn gyntaf oll, mae nifer o siaradwyr, gan gynnwys Russ George, wedi sôn am broblem rhai busnesau sy'n teimlo eu bod yn disgyn drwy'r bylchau, fel petai. Mae un o'r rhai y siaradais â hwy'n ddiweddar, un perchennog busnes, yn pryderu, os byddwch yn gymwys i gael rhyddhad ardrethi, y gall hynny eich eithrio o'r gronfa cadernid ac y gallwch droi mewn cylchoedd. Felly, tybed a allech chi egluro'r sefyllfa o ran hynny.

Hefyd, mae perchennog canolfan chwarae meddal yn y Fenni wedi cysylltu â mi heddiw ddiwethaf, ac mae hi'n pryderu am y meini prawf ar gyfer gwneud cais am arian argyfwng, ar y sail fy mod yn meddwl bod yn rhaid i chi naill ai fod yn fusnes lletygarwch neu'n fusnes hamdden, ac nid yw ei busnes yn perthyn i'r naill gategori na'r llall. Mewn gwirionedd, mae'n debyg ei fod yn perthyn i'r ddau ac yn amlwg, fel canolfan chwarae meddal, efallai ei fod yn rhywbeth nad yw'n cael ei ystyried mor bwysig â chyfleusterau eraill ar adegau penodol mewn amser, ond wrth gwrs, pan ddown allan o'r broblem hon rydym ynddi, bydd rhieni, plant, yn dibynnu ar y math hwnnw o brofiad addysg a chwarae i'w plant. Felly, tybed a allech chi edrych eto ar y categorïau a'r busnesau na fyddant yn ffitio'n hawdd i un categori.

Ac yn olaf ar yr economi, yr hunangyflogedig—roedd dyn busnes lleol unwaith eto yn pryderu, er mwyn bod yn gymwys i gael cyllid argyfwng gan Lywodraeth Cymru, fod yn rhaid i chi gael elw cyfartalog, rwy'n meddwl, neu ddangos elw cyfartalog dros dair blynedd, ac roedd yn pryderu mai'r flwyddyn ddiwethaf sy'n fwyaf perthnasol yn ei achos ef. Felly, nid wyf yn gwybod a allech chi ystyried, neu ofyn i'ch swyddogion edrych i weld a ellid gwneud eithriadau o ran proffidioldeb busnesau.

Yn ail, yr ail faes roeddwn am ei grybwyll yn fyr oedd trafnidiaeth a faint o gyfarpar diogelu personol sydd ar gael. Yn gyntaf, trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus: arhosodd gweithiwr allweddol rwy'n ei adnabod yn ysbyty'r Waun am 75 munud am fws adref y noson o'r blaen. Tybed beth sy'n cael ei wneud i gefnogi'r diwydiant bysiau ar hyn o bryd, yn enwedig o safbwynt ein gweithwyr allweddol a darparu trafnidiaeth yn ôl ac ymlaen iddynt; maent ar y rheng flaen. Ac wrth gwrs, y gyrwyr bysiau eu hunain a staff Trafnidiaeth Cymru—maent hwy ar y rheng flaen hefyd, ac rwy'n meddwl tybed a yw cyfarpar diogelu personol wedi cael ei ystyried ar eu cyfer hwy. Gwn fod pwysau a straen ar hynny ar hyn o bryd, ond gallai hynny fod yn rhywbeth i edrych arno yn y dyfodol.

A'r diwydiant cludo nwyddau y mae rhai siaradwyr wedi sôn amdano, a'r gyrwyr dosbarthu nwyddau—Amazon a'u tebyg—maent yn gweithio'n galed iawn i gwmnïau ar hyn o bryd, ac mae'n debyg iawn eu bod, mewn llawer achos, yn cadw'r economi i symud o ran bod pobl yn cael eu cyflenwadau a phobl yn cael eu siopa. Felly, tybed pa gymorth sy'n cael ei ddarparu i gwmnïau o'r fath er mwyn rhoi digon o amddiffyniad i'w gyrwyr ac i'w staff.

Yn olaf, Weinidog, ar fater cadw pellter cymdeithasol, mae'n beth anodd iawn i'w gyflawni ar drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus, felly tybed sut rydych yn cysylltu â Trafnidiaeth Cymru i wneud yn siŵr ar hyn, ac yn wir, pan ddechreuwn roi'r gorau i'r cyfyngiadau, fel y gwnawn ar ryw adeg gobeithio, os oes unrhyw ofynion cadw pellter cymdeithasol yn dal i fod ar waith, y bydd Trafnidiaeth Cymru a thrafnidiaeth gyhoeddus yn cael y math o gymorth ac arweiniad fydd ei angen arnynt.


Can I thank Nick Ramsay for his questions? I'll turn to the economy questions first of all, and, in terms of the enquiries that he's had from a soft play company, I've had an incredible number of enquiries from soft play businesses that have found themselves in a similar position. It is true that they're not classed as leisure or retail or hospitality, and so they weren't able to benefit from the initial round of support. We were aware of this when we developed the ERF, and, for the most part, soft play businesses are microbusinesses or small or medium-sized enterprises. A huge number of them employ no more than nine people, so they're classed as microbusinesses. They are, for the most part, VAT registered. They've suffered, by and large, a fall of 40 per cent or more, and so they are eligible, I believe, for the microbusiness element of the economic resilience fund. That's certainly where we've been pointing soft play businesses to for appropriate support, and those details are available on Business Wales's website.

We'll take up the last question that you raised regarding the economy and how we might be able to support people who have been operating for three years, but whose profitability performance has varied quite significantly over those three years. I'll ask officials to pick up on that.

In terms of transport, we have, of course, provided the bus industry with the hardship fund. After we announced that, the UK Government made an announcement that, essentially, ensured that Scotland, Wales and England were offering the same degree of support to bus operators during this time. But we're obviously, as you can imagine, now considering how to support buses as we emerge from coronavirus