Y Cyfarfod Llawn - Y Bumed Senedd
Plenary - Fifth Senedd
27/01/2021Cynnwys
Contents
Yn y fersiwn ddwyieithog, mae’r golofn chwith yn cynnwys yr iaith a lefarwyd yn y cyfarfod. Mae’r golofn dde yn cynnwys cyfieithiad o’r areithiau hynny.
In the bilingual version, the left-hand column includes the language used during the meeting. The right-hand column includes a translation of those speeches.
Cyfarfu'r Senedd drwy gynhadledd fideo am 13:29 gyda'r Llywydd (Elin Jones) yn y Gadair.
The Senedd met by video-conference at 13:29 with the Llywydd (Elin Jones) in the Chair.
Croeso i'r Cyfarfod Llawn. Cyn i ni ddechrau, dwi eisiau nodi ychydig o bwyntiau. Mae Cyfarfod Llawn a gynhelir drwy gynhadledd fideo, yn unol â Rheolau Sefydlog Senedd Cymru, yn gyfystyr â thrafodion y Senedd at ddibenion Deddf Llywodraeth Cymru 2006. Bydd rhai o ddarpariaethau Rheol Sefydlog 34 yn gymwys ar gyfer y cyfarfod heddiw, ac mae'r rhain wedi'u nodi ar eich agenda chi. Dwi eisiau atgoffa Aelodau hefyd fod y Rheolau Sefydlog sy'n ymwneud â threfn yn y Cyfarfod Llawn yn berthnasol i'r cyfarfod yma.
Welcome to this Plenary meeting. Before we begin, I want to set out a few points. A Plenary meeting held by video-conference, in accordance with the Standing Orders of the Welsh Parliament, constitutes Senedd proceedings for the purposes of the Government of Wales Act 2006. Some of the provisions of Standing Order 34 will apply for today's Plenary meeting, and these are set out on your agenda. I would remind Members that Standing Orders relating to order in Plenary meetings apply to this meeting.
Yr eitem gyntaf, felly, yw'r cwestiynau i Weinidog yr Economi, Trafnidiaeth a Gogledd Cymru, ac mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf gan Caroline Jones.
The first item is questions to the Minister for Economy, Transport and North Wales, and the first question is from Caroline Jones.
1. Pa gamau y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu cymryd i wella economi Gorllewin De Cymru yn ngoleuni’r pandemig COVID-19? OQ56189
1. What action is the Welsh Government taking to improve the economy of South Wales West in light of the COVID-19 pandemic? OQ56189
Thank you. Well, of course, we’ve provided the most generous package of support for businesses anywhere in the United Kingdom since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, worth over £2 billion, and £1.7 billion of that is now in businesses' accounts. In south-west Wales, the latest restrictions fund has seen over 3,600 businesses receive over £12.4 million, and the sector-specific fund has made 268 offers worth £2.8 million to date.
Diolch. Wel, wrth gwrs, rydym wedi darparu'r pecyn cymorth mwyaf hael i fusnesau yn unrhyw ran o'r Deyrnas Unedig ers dechrau pandemig COVID-19, gwerth mwy na £2 biliwn, ac mae £1.7 biliwn o’r swm hwnnw bellach yng nghyfrifon busnesau. Yn ne-orllewin Cymru, mae'r gronfa ddiweddaraf i fusnesau dan gyfyngiadau wedi darparu dros £12.4 miliwn i dros 3,600 o fusnesau, ac mae'r gronfa sector-benodol wedi gwneud 268 cynnig gwerth cyfanswm o £2.8 miliwn hyd yn hyn.
Thank you, Minister. I recently contacted you regarding the plight of gaming arcades, and in your response you state that you had to take difficult decisions on eligibility criteria. These businesses, which your Government has classified as being the same as casinos or licensed betting establishments—which they're not—are being denied the same support as other leisure businesses in Wales. And whilst their counterparts in Scotland and England receive support, why is it the case that bingo halls can receive support but high-street gaming arcades cannot? Minister, will you arrange to meet with representatives of the three impacted businesses within my region to hear their plight? If these businesses are forced to close, hundreds of people will lose their jobs. Thank you.
Diolch, Weinidog. Yn ddiweddar, cysylltais â chi ynglŷn â thrafferthion arcedau hapchwarae, ac yn eich ymateb dywedwch fod yn rhaid ichi wneud penderfyniadau anodd ar feini prawf cymhwysedd. Mae'r busnesau hyn, y mae eich Llywodraeth wedi'u categoreiddio fel rhai sydd yr un fath â chasinos neu sefydliadau betio trwyddedig—er nad ydynt—yn cael eu hamddifadu o'r cymorth a roddir i fusnesau hamdden eraill yng Nghymru. Ac er bod busnesau cyfatebol yn yr Alban a Lloegr yn derbyn cymorth, pam y gall neuaddau bingo dderbyn cymorth ond nid arcedau hapchwarae ar y stryd fawr? Weinidog, a wnewch chi drefnu i gyfarfod â chynrychiolwyr y tri busnes yr effeithiwyd arnynt yn fy rhanbarth i er mwyn clywed eu trafferthion? Os caiff y busnesau hyn eu gorfodi i gau, bydd cannoedd o bobl yn colli eu swyddi. Diolch.
Can I thank Caroline Jones for her question? I'm always willing to meet with businesses and with representative bodies. Of course, if a formal invitation is made, we'll give it very, very sympathetic consideration. In relation to the issue, though—to gaming and gambling—the guidance that is used by local authorities clearly states, in relation to those venues, arcades of the type that could be classified as amusements rather than gambling premises are considered leisure establishments and are eligible for the grants, either via the small business rate relief route, or where the rateable value of the premises makes them eligible for the larger £5,000 as leisure facilities. But as I've already said on numerous occasions during the course of this pandemic, very difficult decisions have had to be made, and, in so doing, we are still offering the most generous package of support anywhere in the United Kingdom to protect jobs. To date, we've been able to protect more than 140,000 jobs across Wales as a result of our direct action.
A gaf fi ddiolch i Caroline Jones am ei chwestiwn? Rwyf bob amser yn barod i gyfarfod â busnesau a chyrff cynrychiadol. Wrth gwrs, os rhoddir gwahoddiad ffurfiol, byddwn yn rhoi ystyriaeth gydymdeimladol iawn iddo. Mewn perthynas â'r mater sy'n codi, serch hynny—hapchwarae a gamblo—mae'r canllawiau a ddefnyddir gan awdurdodau lleol yn nodi'n glir, mewn perthynas â'r lleoliadau hynny, fod arcedau o'r math y gellid eu categoreiddio’n arcedau difyrion yn hytrach na’n sefydliadau gamblo yn cael eu hystyried yn sefydliadau hamdden ac yn gymwys i gael y grantiau, naill ai drwy ryddhad ardrethi busnesau bach, neu pan fo gwerth ardrethol y safle’n eu gwneud yn gymwys i gael y swm mwy o £5,000 fel cyfleusterau hamdden. Ond rwyf wedi dweud ar sawl achlysur eisoes yn ystod y pandemig hwn, bu’n rhaid gwneud penderfyniadau anodd iawn, ac wrth wneud hynny, rydym yn dal i gynnig y pecyn cymorth mwyaf hael yn unrhyw ran o'r Deyrnas Unedig er mwyn diogelu swyddi. Hyd yn hyn, rydym wedi gallu diogelu mwy na 140,000 o swyddi ledled Cymru o ganlyniad i'n gweithredu uniongyrchol.
South Wales West is already experiencing its own economic shocks, not least due to the exposure of supply chains, which feed into the now fragile hospitality, tourism and leisure sector. Minister, you've recognised that fragility with ring-fenced financial support for many front-line businesses, but, of course, they still won't be buying stock or committing to capital improvements at this point. Developing the foundational economy is a big plank of your policy, as is the promotion of Welsh food and drink. You've insisted that viable businesses should still be with us once we're through the pandemic, so where are you at the moment in securing the viability of that gate-to-plate path?
Mae Gorllewin De Cymru eisoes yn dioddef ei ergydion economaidd ei hun, yn anad dim o ganlyniad i ba mor agored yw’r cadwyni cyflenwi sy'n bwydo i mewn i'r sector lletygarwch, twristiaeth a hamdden sydd bellach yn fregus iawn. Weinidog, rydych wedi cydnabod y bregusrwydd hwnnw gyda chymorth ariannol wedi'i glustnodi i lawer o fusnesau rheng flaen, ond wrth gwrs, ni fyddant yn prynu stoc nac yn ymrwymo i welliannau cyfalaf ar hyn o bryd. Mae datblygu'r economi sylfaenol yn rhan fawr o'ch polisi, ynghyd â hyrwyddo bwyd a diod o Gymru. Rydych wedi mynnu y dylai busnesau hyfyw fod gyda ni o hyd wedi’r pandemig, felly ble rydych chi arni ar hyn o bryd o ran sicrhau hyfywedd y llwybr gât i'r plât hwnnw?
Can I thank Suzy Davies for her question? I should actually say that, in terms of considering capital investments, we did make available £100 million in business development grants, which was taken by a huge number of businesses—great interest in that particular scheme and the demand was incredible. That was specifically designed to encourage businesses to invest in their future. So, we have already made a considerable sum of money available for capital improvements. And in terms of that pathway to recovery, just last Friday the First Minister announced an additional £200 million to the restrictions fund, taking it to a total of £650 million, to enable businesses to have that bridge to the period of recovery.
In terms of the supply chain, we've also been able to allow supply chain businesses to access funds where they are able to prove a significant downturn in turnover. And it's worth just mentioning to Members that, in direct regard to that key sector that Suzy Davies has mentioned—hospitality—a typical hospitality business in Wales with the equivalent of six full-time staff could now be eligible to receive between £12,000 and £14,000, to help them through this desperately difficult period of restrictions. And that compares favourably to what's on offer across the border, where £9,000 is the highest award available to businesses in that sector of the same size. That demonstrates just how generous the offer is in Wales and how determined we are, as a Welsh Government, to secure the futures of as many businesses and as many employees as possible.
A gaf fi ddiolch i Suzy Davies am ei chwestiwn? O ran ystyried buddsoddiadau cyfalaf, dylwn ddweud ein bod wedi sicrhau bod £100 miliwn ar gael mewn grantiau datblygu busnes, a aeth i nifer enfawr o fusnesau—cafwyd cryn dipyn o ddiddordeb yn y cynllun penodol hwnnw a bu’r galw yn anhygoel. Lluniwyd y cynllun yn benodol i annog busnesau i fuddsoddi yn eu dyfodol. Felly, rydym eisoes wedi sicrhau bod swm sylweddol o arian ar gael ar gyfer gwelliannau cyfalaf. Ac o ran y llwybr hwnnw at adferiad, ddydd Gwener diwethaf, cyhoeddodd y Prif Weinidog £200 miliwn ychwanegol ar gyfer y gronfa i fusnesau dan gyfyngiadau, gan ei chynyddu i gyfanswm o £650 miliwn, er mwyn galluogi busnesau i bontio i’r cyfnod adfer.
O ran y gadwyn gyflenwi, rydym hefyd wedi gallu caniatáu i fusnesau’r gadwyn gyflenwi gael mynediad at arian pan allant brofi gostyngiad sylweddol yn eu trosiant. Ac mae'n werth sôn wrth yr Aelodau, o ran y sector allweddol hwnnw y soniodd Suzy Davies amdano—lletygarwch—y gallai busnes lletygarwch nodweddiadol yng Nghymru sydd â'r hyn sy'n cyfateb i chwe aelod o staff amser llawn fod yn gymwys i dderbyn rhwng £12,000 a £14,000, i'w cynorthwyo drwy'r cyfnod anodd hwn o gyfyngiadau. Ac mae hynny'n cymharu'n ffafriol â'r hyn sydd ar gael dros y ffin, gan mai £9,000 yw'r swm uchaf sydd ar gael i fusnesau o'r un maint yn y sector hwnnw. Mae hynny'n dangos pa mor hael yw'r cynnig yng Nghymru a pha mor benderfynol rydym ni, fel Llywodraeth Cymru, i ddiogelu dyfodol cymaint o fusnesau a chymaint o weithwyr â phosibl.
Minister, over £32 million has been given out in business grants to businesses across Neath Port Talbot and I very much welcome that. But many of those small businesses depend upon one large business—Tata—in my constituency, and they have previously applied to the UK Government for help from the coronavirus business interruption loan scheme funding. They haven't heard yet. Have you had a chance to speak to the new Secretary of State for the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy to discuss how he can support Tata during this particular time?
Weinidog, mae dros £32 miliwn wedi’i roi mewn grantiau busnes i fusnesau ar draws Castell-nedd Port Talbot, ac rwy'n croesawu hynny’n fawr. Ond mae llawer o'r busnesau bach hynny’n dibynnu ar un busnes mawr—Tata—yn fy etholaeth, ac maent wedi gwneud cais i Lywodraeth y DU o'r blaen am gymorth drwy gyllid y cynllun benthyciadau tarfu ar fusnes yn sgil y coronafeirws. Nid ydynt wedi clywed unrhyw beth eto. A ydych wedi cael cyfle i siarad ag Ysgrifennydd Gwladol newydd yr Adran Busnes, Ynni a Strategaeth Ddiwydiannol i drafod sut y gall gefnogi Tata yn ystod y cyfnod penodol hwn?
Can I thank Dai Rees for his question and say that a call with the new Secretary of State is now scheduled? It's in our diary. I have previously had very constructive relationships with other Ministers in BEIS, including, I'd particularly mention, Nadhim Zahawi, who is very collaborative in his approach, and we spoke on numerous occasions about the need to support the steel industry. Of course, that support has not yet been forthcoming from the UK Government. It's absolutely crucial that a deal is provided to the sector as a whole, but that specific support is agreed with Tata, recognising the strategic purpose of Tata as the UK's primary steel maker, and that is absolutely vital in terms of our national security and our economic well-being. So, these are the points that I'll be pressing upon the new Secretary of State when I speak with him.
A gaf fi ddiolch i Dai Rees am ei gwestiwn a dweud bod galwad gyda'r Ysgrifennydd Gwladol newydd bellach wedi'i threfnu? Mae hynny yn ein dyddiadur. Roedd gennyf berthynas adeiladol iawn gyda Gweinidogion eraill yn yr Adran Busnes, Ynni a Strategaeth Ddiwydiannol, gan gynnwys, dylwn grybwyll yn benodol, Nadhim Zahawi, sy'n gydweithredol iawn, ac rydym wedi siarad ar sawl achlysur ynglŷn â'r angen i gefnogi'r diwydiant dur. Wrth gwrs, ni chafwyd y cymorth hwnnw eto gan Lywodraeth y DU. Mae'n gwbl hanfodol fod cytundeb yn cael ei ddarparu ar gyfer y sector cyfan, ond bod cymorth penodol yn cael ei gytuno â Tata, gan gydnabod pwrpas strategol Tata fel prif wneuthurwr dur y DU, ac mae hynny'n gwbl hanfodol i'n diogelwch cenedlaethol a'n lles economaidd. Felly, dyma’r pwyntiau y byddaf yn eu pwysleisio wrth yr Ysgrifennydd Gwladol newydd pan fyddaf yn siarad ag ef.
2. A wnaiff y Gweinidog roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf am gefnogaeth i fusnesau yng Nghaerffili y mae pandemig y coronafeirws yn effeithio arnynt? OQ56176
2. Will the Minister provide an update on support for businesses in Caerphilly affected by the coronavirus pandemic? OQ56176
Yes, of course. In Caerphilly, the latest restrictions fund has seen over 1,500 businesses receive more than £4.5 million and the sector-specific fund has made 61 offers worth £478,000 to date.
Gwnaf, wrth gwrs. Yng Nghaerffili, mae'r gronfa ddiweddaraf i fusnesau dan gyfyngiadau wedi darparu mwy na £4.5 miliwn i dros 1,500 o fusnesau ac mae'r gronfa sector-benodol wedi gwneud 61 cynnig gwerth cyfanswm o £478,000 hyd yma.
I'd like to thank the Minister for meeting with representatives of businesses in Caerphilly and for the constructive responses that he gave. I just wanted to follow up on a few issues that have come out of that. Over the past few weeks, I've been contacted again by those businesses, who've expressed some concerns about the current financial package. One has said—a dance studio in Ystrad Mynach—that they cannot access support from the economic resilience fund due to them not paying their staff through PAYE, despite being in more or less the same position as other businesses of similar size otherwise. Another that contacted me is a farm park, who told me that the economic resilience fund cannot be used to support staff salaries even though the staff cannot be furloughed due to having to care for the park's animals. And I've had further concerns from representatives of the hair and beauty sector, who can't access support from the present round of ERF funding despite being unable to open. There's a fine line in the hospitality sector between being eligible and being not eligible, and I think, sometimes, businesses are falling on the wrong side of that fine line, which I'd like the Minister to address, and particularly with the next round of funding in mind. So, in the next round of funding, can those issues please be addressed to make sure that those businesses are catered for? And can he also tell us, with the First Minister having announced £200 million in the next round, when the detail of that next round of funding will be announced?
Hoffwn ddiolch i'r Gweinidog am gyfarfod â chynrychiolwyr busnesau yng Nghaerffili ac am yr ymatebion adeiladol a roddodd. Hoffwn holi ynglŷn ag ychydig o faterion sydd wedi deillio o hynny. Dros yr ychydig wythnosau diwethaf, mae'r busnesau hynny wedi cysylltu â mi unwaith eto, gan fynegi rhai pryderon ynglŷn â’r pecyn ariannol cyfredol. Mae un wedi dweud—stiwdio ddawns yn Ystrad Mynach—na allant gael mynediad at gymorth drwy’r gronfa cadernid economaidd gan nad ydynt yn talu eu staff ar sail talu wrth ennill, er eu bod yn yr un sefyllfa fwy neu lai â busnesau eraill o faint tebyg fel arall. Parc fferm yw un arall a gysylltodd â mi, a dywedodd wrthyf na ellir defnyddio’r gronfa cadernid economaidd i gynnal cyflogau staff er na ellir rhoi’r staff ar ffyrlo am eu bod yn gorfod gofalu am anifeiliaid y parc. Ac mae cynrychiolwyr y sector trin gwallt a harddwch wedi mynegi pryderon pellach i mi am nad ydynt yn gallu cael cymorth drwy rownd gyllido bresennol y gronfa cadernid economaidd er nad ydynt yn gallu agor. Prin yw’r gwahaniaeth yn y sector lletygarwch rhwng bod yn gymwys a pheidio â bod yn gymwys, ac weithiau rwy'n credu bod busnesau’n cwympo ar yr ochr anghywir i'r gwahaniaeth hwnnw, a hoffwn i’r Gweinidog fynd i'r afael â hynny, ac yn enwedig gyda'r rownd gyllido nesaf mewn golwg. Felly, yn y rownd gyllido nesaf, a ellir mynd i'r afael â'r materion hynny i sicrhau y ceir darpariaeth ar gyfer y busnesau hynny? Ac a all ddweud wrthym hefyd, gan fod y Prif Weinidog wedi cyhoeddi £200 miliwn yn y rownd nesaf, pa bryd y bydd manylion y rownd gyllido nesaf honno’n cael eu cyhoeddi?
Can I thank Hefin David not just for his questions, but also for the opportunity to meet with him recently and the representatives of businesses from Caerphilly? I thought it was a very valuable discussion that we had, and certainly we are always exploring how we can plug the gaps that people and businesses are falling through as a result of the UK Government and the Welsh Government schemes. Now, the Deputy Minister, I should, first of all, say, recently met with ExcludedUK—my colleague Jane Hutt—to discuss issues and problems faced by many millions of people across the United Kingdom, including here in Wales. In addition to this, the Minister for Finance and I recently wrote to the Chancellor, pressing him for further support to be made available to businesses and to working people. Today, Members may have seen that, in Prime Minister's questions, the Prime Minister was asked about extending business and employee support to ensure that fewer people and businesses fall through the gaps, and he said that a statement would be forthcoming regarding that very matter.
Our package has been designed with, obviously, affordability in mind, but also with the available funding that we have, and sometimes we have had to make difficult decisions. But our purpose has been to plug as many gaps as possible left by UK Government schemes. And with regard to some of the examples that Hefin has outlined, and first of all the dance business, while a business without PAYE staff can't access the ERF sector fund, a business that has a rateable property would be able to, via their local authority, secure a grant of £3,000 or £5,000 from the ERF restrictions fund. And that also applies to the businesses within the hair and beauty sector. Now, Hefin is also right that, last Friday, the First Minister outlined an additional £200 million that will be made available to support businesses in the coming weeks. The details of that additional support package will be published very soon, in a matter of days. In the meanwhile, I should also assure Members that the discretionary fund operated by local authorities remains open to applications. That's a £25 million fund, and that fund is designed to allow businesses to secure grants of up to £2,000.
A gaf fi ddiolch i Hefin David nid yn unig am ei gwestiynau, ond hefyd am y cyfle i gyfarfod ag ef yn ddiweddar a chynrychiolwyr busnesau o Gaerffili? Roeddwn yn credu bod y drafodaeth a gawsom yn werthfawr iawn, ac yn sicr, rydym bob amser yn archwilio sut y gallwn lenwi'r bylchau y mae pobl a busnesau yn cwympo drwyddynt o ganlyniad i gynlluniau Llywodraeth y DU a Llywodraeth Cymru. Nawr, dylwn ddweud yn gyntaf oll fod y Dirprwy Weinidog wedi cyfarfod ag ExcludedUK yn ddiweddar—fy nghyd-Aelod Jane Hutt—i drafod materion a phroblemau y mae miliynau o bobl yn eu hwynebu ledled y Deyrnas Unedig, gan gynnwys yma yng Nghymru. Yn ogystal â hyn, ysgrifennodd y Gweinidog Cyllid a minnau at y Canghellor yn ddiweddar, gan bwyso arno i sicrhau bod cymorth pellach ar gael i fusnesau ac i bobl sy'n gweithio. Heddiw, efallai y bydd yr Aelodau wedi gweld, yn y cwestiynau i Brif Weinidog y DU, iddo gael ei holi ynglŷn ag ymestyn cymorth i fusnesau a gweithwyr er mwyn sicrhau bod llai o bobl a busnesau yn cwympo drwy’r bylchau, a dywedodd y byddai datganiad yn cael ei wneud cyn bo hir ar yr union fater hwnnw.
Lluniwyd ein pecyn gyda fforddiadwyedd mewn golwg, yn amlwg, ond hefyd gyda'r cyllid sydd ar gael i ni, ac weithiau, bu’n rhaid inni wneud penderfyniadau anodd. Ond ein nod oedd llenwi cymaint â phosibl o’r bylchau yng nghynlluniau Llywodraeth y DU. Ac o ran rhai o'r enghreifftiau a amlinellwyd gan Hefin, ac yn gyntaf oll y busnes dawns, er na all busnes heb staff a gyflogir ar sail talu wrth ennill gael mynediad at gronfa sectorau penodol y gronfa cadernid economaidd, byddai busnes a chanddo eiddo ardrethol yn gallu sicrhau grant drwy eu hawdurdod lleol o £3,000 neu £5,000 o gyllid y gronfa cadernid economaidd ar gyfer busnesau dan gyfyngiadau. Ac mae hynny hefyd yn berthnasol i'r busnesau yn y sector trin gwallt a harddwch. Nawr, mae Hefin hefyd yn llygad ei le fod y Prif Weinidog, ddydd Gwener diwethaf, wedi amlinellu £200 miliwn ychwanegol a fydd ar gael i gefnogi busnesau yn ystod yr wythnosau nesaf. Bydd manylion y pecyn cymorth ychwanegol hwnnw’n cael eu cyhoeddi cyn bo hir, ymhen ychydig ddyddiau. Yn y cyfamser, dylwn sicrhau'r Aelodau hefyd fod y gronfa ddewisol a weithredir gan awdurdodau lleol yn parhau i fod yn agored i geisiadau. Mae'r gronfa honno'n werth £25 miliwn, ac wedi'i chynllunio i ganiatáu i fusnesau gael grantiau o hyd at £2,000.
Thank you, Minister. As an extension of that question, I wanted to ask you about businesses falling through the gaps because there are still quite a few businesses falling through the gaps. So, I welcome what you've said, and I look forward to seeing more detail and what you're planning to do about it. Can I ask you specifically about support for the self-employed who work from home and have recently set up new businesses? I've been contacted by a constituent who set up a new business venture in November of 2019, and, after undergoing the appropriate training he needed to do, he was planning on starting trading in that business in the early part of 2020. However, this couldn't happen because it entailed visiting people's homes, which was banned, obviously, under the coronavirus regulations. As a result, he made no profit and accrued a significant debt as a result of setting up his business. I'm just wondering what assistance you're providing to businesses like his who were very unlucky in the time they started their business, obviously.
Diolch, Weinidog. Gan ehangu ar y cwestiwn hwnnw, hoffwn ofyn i chi am fusnesau sy'n cwympo drwy'r bylchau gan fod cryn dipyn o fusnesau’n cwympo drwy'r bylchau o hyd. Felly, rwy'n croesawu'r hyn rydych wedi'i ddweud, ac edrychaf ymlaen at weld mwy o fanylion a'r hyn rydych yn bwriadu ei wneud yn ei gylch. A gaf fi ofyn i chi'n benodol ynghylch cymorth i bobl hunangyflogedig sy'n gweithio gartref ac sydd wedi sefydlu busnesau newydd yn ddiweddar? Mae etholwr a sefydlodd fenter busnes newydd ym mis Tachwedd 2019 wedi cysylltu â mi, ac ar ôl iddo gyflawni'r hyfforddiant priodol roedd angen iddo’i wneud, roedd yn bwriadu dechrau masnachu yn y busnes hwnnw yn gynnar yn 2020. Fodd bynnag, ni allai hyn ddigwydd gan ei fod yn galw am ymweld â chartrefi pobl, rhywbeth a oedd wedi’i wahardd, yn amlwg, dan y rheoliadau coronafeirws. O ganlyniad, ni wnaeth unrhyw elw ac aeth i ddyled sylweddol o ganlyniad i sefydlu ei fusnes. Tybed pa gymorth rydych yn ei roi i fusnesau fel ei fusnes ef a fu’n anlwcus iawn o ran yr adeg y gwnaethant ddechrau eu busnes wrth gwrs.
Can I thank Laura Jones for highlighting that particular case? And, obviously, if Laura Anne Jones would write to me with some of the detail, I will give it specific consideration as well to see whether we are able to assist. But, in general terms, in regard to start-up businesses, we did of course make available during the pandemic grants for start-ups to protect them, and within Caerphilly itself 84 start-up grants have been awarded, totalling more than £200,000, demonstrating the Welsh Government's commitment to start-ups. And we are currently considering further support for start-up businesses in the coming weeks and months as part of that overall package of support that has been announced by the First Minister.
A gaf fi ddiolch i Laura Jones am dynnu sylw at yr achos penodol hwnnw? Ac yn amlwg, os gwnaiff Laura Anne Jones ysgrifennu ataf gyda rhywfaint o'r manylion, fe roddaf ystyriaeth benodol iddo hefyd i weld a allwn fod o gymorth. Ond yn gyffredinol, o ran busnesau newydd, gwnaethom ddarparu grantiau yn ystod y pandemig ar gyfer busnesau newydd er mwyn eu diogelu, ac yng Nghaerffili ei hun, mae 84 o grantiau wedi'u rhoi i fusnesau newydd, gwerth cyfanswm o fwy na £200,000, ac mae hynny’n dangos ymrwymiad Llywodraeth Cymru i fusnesau newydd. Ac ar hyn o bryd, rydym yn ystyried cymorth pellach i fusnesau newydd dros yr wythnosau a'r misoedd nesaf fel rhan o'r pecyn cymorth cyffredinol a gyhoeddwyd gan y Prif Weinidog.
As stated by the Minister, we acknowledge that the support offered to Welsh businesses has been the most generous of all UK Governments. However, the finances available to Welsh businesses, even with the help of the UK Government, are patently not enough, given the number of businesses across all sectors who are either closing permanently or are shedding jobs at an alarming rate, as evidenced by three large retail outlets that have closed recently in Pontypool town centre. It is becoming increasingly obvious that the only possibility of stopping this catastrophic damage to the Welsh economy is to end the lockdowns. Could the Minister give any indication as to when this will happen so that those in desperate economic situations may see some light at the end of the tunnel?
Fel y nododd y Gweinidog, rydym yn cydnabod mai’r cymorth a gynigiwyd i fusnesau Cymru yw’r mwyaf hael o holl Lywodraethau'r DU. Fodd bynnag, mae’n amlwg nad yw'r cyllid sydd ar gael i fusnesau Cymru yn ddigon, hyd yn oed gyda chymorth Llywodraeth y DU, o ystyried nifer y busnesau ar draws pob sector sydd naill ai'n cau'n barhaol neu sy'n cael gwared ar swyddi ar raddfa frawychus, fel y gwelwyd wrth i dri safle manwerthu mawr ynghanol y dref ym Mhont-y-pŵl gau yn ddiweddar. Mae'n dod yn fwyfwy amlwg mai'r unig bosibilrwydd o atal y niwed trychinebus hwn i economi Cymru yw dod â'r cyfyngiadau symud i ben. A all y Gweinidog roi unrhyw syniad pryd y bydd hyn yn digwydd fel y gall y rheini sydd mewn sefyllfaoedd economaidd enbyd weld rhywfaint o oleuni ar ben draw’r twnnel?
Can I thank David Rowlands for his question and say that, first and foremost, this is an unprecedented crisis that we are facing globally? We have never faced such a pandemic in our lifetimes, and so the support that's required for businesses, of course, whilst it's been substantial indeed, goes no way to actually covering many of the additional costs and the loss of revenue that businesses would have experienced during the course of the pandemic. Most businesses want to be open, as I think all Members would recognise, rather than be forced to close due to lockdowns.
The plan for emerging from lockdowns is pretty clear in terms of where we need to be in regard to test positivity and infection rates. But, in the meantime, we stand ready to support every business during this period of lockdown to ensure that they can survive. Again, in regard to the Caerphilly area, there are some excellent examples of how the Welsh Government has supported businesses and secured jobs in recent months—businesses like Bergstrom, IG Doors, Hydro Sapa, MII Engineering. Between those, we've been able to grant award more than £1 million and secure the best part of 1,000 jobs. That's an impressive achievement for Caerphilly and demonstrates how, in every single part of Wales, the Welsh Government is stepping in to secure employment, to save people's prospects.
A gaf fi ddiolch i David Rowlands am ei gwestiwn a dweud, yn anad dim, fod yr hyn rydym yn ei wynebu’n fyd-eang yn argyfwng na welwyd mo'i debyg o'r blaen? Nid ydym erioed wedi wynebu pandemig o'r fath yn ystod ein hoes, ac felly nid yw'r cymorth sydd ei angen ar fusnesau, er ei fod wedi bod yn sylweddol, yn ddigon i wneud iawn am lawer o'r costau ychwanegol a’r refeniw y byddai busnesau wedi'i golli yn ystod y pandemig. Mae'r rhan fwyaf o fusnesau eisiau bod ar agor, fel y credaf y byddai'r holl Aelodau'n ei gydnabod, yn hytrach na chael eu gorfodi i gau oherwydd cyfyngiadau symud.
Mae'r cynllun ar gyfer dod allan o gyfyngiadau symud yn eithaf clir o ran ble mae angen inni fod mewn perthynas â phrofion positif a chyfraddau heintio. Ond yn y cyfamser, rydym yn barod i gefnogi pob busnes yn ystod y cyfyngiadau symud hyn i sicrhau y gallant oroesi. Unwaith eto, mewn perthynas ag ardal Caerffili, ceir rhai enghreifftiau rhagorol o sut y mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi cefnogi busnesau a diogelu swyddi dros y misoedd diwethaf—busnesau fel Bergstrom, IG Doors, Hydro Sapa, MII Engineering. Rhwng y busnesau hynny, rydym wedi gallu dyfarnu mwy nag £1 filiwn mewn grantiau a diogelu bron i 1,000 o swyddi. Mae hynny'n gyflawniad gwych i Gaerffili ac mae'n dangos sut y mae Llywodraeth Cymru, ym mhob rhan o Gymru, yn camu i'r adwy i ddiogelu cyflogaeth er mwyn cynnal gobeithion pobl ar gyfer y dyfodol.
Cwestiynau nawr gan lefarwyr y pleidiau. Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr yn gyntaf yr wythnos yma, Russell George.
Questions now from party spokespeople. The Conservative spokesperson first this week, Russell George.
Diolch, Presiding Officer, and good afternoon, Minister. Two weeks ago, Minister, you launched the £180 million sector-specific fund to support the hospitality, tourism and leisure sectors. How many businesses have already been supported and how much has been allocated, and how much money is still left in that pot to be allocated to those businesses?
Diolch, Lywydd, a phrynhawn da, Weinidog. Bythefnos yn ôl, Weinidog, fe wnaethoch chi lansio'r gronfa sector-benodol sy'n werth £180 miliwn i gefnogi sectorau lletygarwch, twristiaeth a hamdden. Faint o fusnesau sydd eisoes wedi cael cymorth a faint sydd wedi'i ddyrannu, a faint o arian sydd ar ôl yn y pot hwnnw i'w ddyrannu i'r busnesau hynny?
Well, can I thank Russell George for his question? The sector-specific fund at the outset came under intense demand from businesses, obviously, because there is a desperate need for support for those enterprises that are suffering so dearly right now. I can tell Russell George and Members that, as of today, more than 7,600 applications have been submitted, worth in the region of £70 million already. The fund, obviously, remains open as planned and we continue to provide status updates on the Business Wales website as and when required. So far, more than 880 offers, worth in excess of £5.5 million, have been made, with £3 million of that accepted by businesses and more than £2 million has already been made in terms of payment.
Wel, a gaf fi ddiolch i Russell George am ei gwestiwn? Yn amlwg, bu cryn dipyn o alw gan fusnesau ar y cychwyn am arian o’r gronfa sector-benodol gan fod angen dirfawr am gymorth i'r mentrau sy'n dioddef yn fawr ar hyn o bryd. Gallaf ddweud wrth Russell George a'r Aelodau fod mwy na 7,600 o geisiadau wedi'u cyflwyno hyd yn hyn, sy'n werth cyfanswm o oddeutu £70 miliwn eisoes. Mae'r gronfa, yn amlwg, yn parhau i fod ar agor fel y cynlluniwyd, ac rydym yn parhau i ddarparu diweddariadau ar ei statws ar wefan Busnes Cymru yn ôl yr angen. Hyd yn hyn, gwnaed mwy na 880 o gynigion, gwerth dros £5.5 miliwn, gyda busnesau'n derbyn £3 miliwn o’r swm hwnnw, ac mae mwy na £2 filiwn eisoes wedi'i dalu.
Thank you for your answer, Minister. I would suggest that those figures aren't particularly good. If only 7,600 businesses have actually brought forward applications, then the money hasn't even got to them yet; they're just applications that have been received. That tells us that there are thousands and thousands of businesses across Wales that haven't been supported in this particular sector. And from my perspective, it's so important that this financial support gets to businesses as quickly as possible. I know that you will agree with me that any business that was viable last year should be viable later this year when we see, hopefully, the end of this horrible pandemic.
But I'm particularly concerned about the hospitality sector, because it's this area that has been under the greatest level of restriction for the longest period of time. They've been under restrictions before the late December lockdown. Now, I know in response to question 1 today, Minister, you mentioned that the latest package of support for a typical hospitality business in Wales with the equivalent of six full-time staff would be eligible for between £12,000 and £14,000 in total. My concern is that I've had dozens of businesses contact me—small businesses in the hospitality sector, and other Members have had the same, because we've heard from some today also—who have fallen through the net of financial support, mainly because they don't meet the criteria for the economic resilience fund because it's too restrictive for a range of reasons: either the businesses have to employ staff on pay as you earn or because the fund is aimed at larger value-added-tax registered businesses, and so on. Can you either introduce a discretionary fund for those small businesses in the hospitality sector or can you look at the eligibility criteria for support and make that less restrictive?
Diolch am eich ateb, Weinidog. Byddwn yn awgrymu nad yw'r ffigurau hynny'n arbennig o dda. Os mai 7,600 o fusnesau yn unig sydd wedi cyflwyno ceisiadau, nid yw'r arian wedi eu cyrraedd hwy eto hyd yn oed; dim ond ceisiadau a ddaeth i law yw'r rheini. Mae hynny'n dweud wrthym fod miloedd ar filoedd o fusnesau ledled Cymru heb gael unrhyw gymorth yn y sector penodol hwn. Ac o’m safbwynt i, mae’n hynod bwysig fod y cymorth ariannol hwn yn cyrraedd busnesau cyn gynted â phosibl. Gwn y byddwch yn cytuno â mi y dylai unrhyw fusnes a oedd yn hyfyw y llynedd fod yn hyfyw yn ddiweddarach eleni pan fyddwn, gobeithio, yn gweld diwedd ar y pandemig erchyll hwn.
Ond rwy'n arbennig o bryderus am y sector lletygarwch, gan mai’r maes hwn sydd wedi bod dan y lefel uchaf o gyfyngiadau am y cyfnod hiraf o amser. Maent wedi bod dan gyfyngiadau cyn cyfyngiadau symud diwedd mis Rhagfyr. Nawr, gwn ichi sôn mewn ymateb i gwestiwn 1 heddiw, Weinidog, y byddai'r pecyn cymorth diweddaraf ar gyfer busnes lletygarwch nodweddiadol yng Nghymru gyda'r hyn sy'n cyfateb i chwe aelod o staff amser llawn yn gymwys am gyfanswm o rhwng £12,000 a £14,000. Fy mhryder i yw bod dwsinau o fusnesau wedi cysylltu â mi—busnesau bach yn y sector lletygarwch, ac mae’r un peth wedi digwydd i Aelodau eraill, gan inni glywed gan rai ohonynt heddiw hefyd—sydd wedi cwympo drwy rwyd y cymorth ariannol, yn bennaf am nad ydynt yn bodloni'r meini prawf ar gyfer y gronfa cadernid economaidd gan eu bod yn rhy gyfyngol am nifer o resymau: naill ai mae'n rhaid i'r busnesau gyflogi staff ar sail talu wrth ennill neu am fod y gronfa wedi'i hanelu at fusnesau mwy sydd wedi cofrestru at ddibenion treth ar werth ac ati. A wnewch chi gyflwyno cronfa ddewisol ar gyfer y busnesau bach hynny yn y sector lletygarwch neu a wnewch chi edrych ar y meini prawf cymhwysedd ar gyfer cymorth a’u gwneud yn llai cyfyngol?
I thank Russell George for his further questions and say that, in terms of the overall numbers, there are between 8,500 and 9,000 businesses within the sector that the specific fund has been established to support. So, of those 8,500 to 9,000 businesses, I think 7,600 applications is pretty impressive so far, but obviously we are leaving the fund open to give every opportunity to those remaining businesses to apply for support, and indeed we made the decision to extend the period the fund is going to be open for. Obviously, this is vitally important money for businesses that will continue to suffer during the winter months. But, as I've already said, we're already putting money into the bank accounts of those businesses—a significant sum of money has already been awarded and drawn down.
In terms of a discretionary fund, obviously we wouldn't want to duplicate what is already on offer and local authorities still have their discretionary funds open for applications—a £25 million fund. We're open to ideas as to how we can support every sector across the economy, and crucially the hospitality sector. If we look at some of the comparisons as well with the UK, with the larger businesses, we'd see that for businesses with a rateable value of between £12,000 and £50,000, in England, the maximum award is currently around about £6,000; in Northern Ireland, about £14,400; in Scotland, for hospitality, it's around £12,000; here in Wales, £25,000. And if you look at the larger businesses, those with rateable values of between £50,00 and £500,000, in England the maximum would be £9,000; Northern Ireland, £19,200; in Scotland, again, specifically for hospitality businesses, it would be £34,000. There is an opportunity here in Wales for those businesses of that size and type to draw down £110,000. That demonstrates just how significant our funds are in Wales and how we are still offering the most generous package of support for businesses. But, of course, as we consider future rounds of support, we are always open to ideas, and any suggestions from any Members will be welcome and received very well here in this department.
Diolch i Russell George am ei gwestiynau pellach ac rwy'n dweud o ran y niferoedd cyffredinol, fod y sector y sefydlwyd y gronfa benodol i’w gefnogi yn cynnwys rhwng 8,500 a 9,000 o fusnesau. Felly, o'r 8,500 a 9,000 o fusnesau, credaf fod 7,600 o geisiadau yn eithaf da hyd yn hyn, ond yn amlwg, rydym yn gadael y gronfa ar agor i roi pob cyfle i'r busnesau sydd ar ôl wneud cais am gymorth, ac yn wir, gwnaethom y penderfyniad i ymestyn y cyfnod y bydd y gronfa'n agored. Yn amlwg, mae hwn yn arian hanfodol bwysig i fusnesau a fydd yn parhau i ddioddef yn ystod misoedd y gaeaf. Ond fel rwyf wedi’i ddweud eisoes, rydym eisoes yn rhoi arian yng nghyfrifon banc y busnesau hynny—mae swm sylweddol o arian eisoes wedi'i ddyfarnu a'i dynnu i lawr.
Ac o ran cronfa ddewisol, yn amlwg, ni fyddem am ddyblygu'r hyn sydd eisoes ar gael ac mae cronfeydd dewisol yr awdurdodau lleol yn dal i fod yn agored i geisiadau—£25 miliwn o gyllid. Rydym yn agored i syniadau ynglŷn â sut y gallwn gefnogi pob sector ar draws yr economi, ac yn enwedig y sector lletygarwch. Os edrychwn ar rai o'r cymariaethau â’r DU hefyd, gyda’r busnesau mwy o faint, byddem yn gweld, ar gyfer busnesau a chanddynt werth ardrethol o rhwng £12,000 a £50,000, yn Lloegr, fod y dyfarniad uchaf oddeutu £6,000 ar hyn o bryd; yng Ngogledd Iwerddon, mae oddeutu £14,400; yn yr Alban, ar gyfer lletygarwch, mae oddeutu £12,000; yma yng Nghymru, £25,000. Ac os edrychwch ar y busnesau mwy o faint, y rheini a chanddynt werthoedd ardrethol o rhwng £50,00 a £500,000, yn Lloegr, yr uchafswm fyddai £9,000; Gogledd Iwerddon, £19,200; yn yr Alban, unwaith eto, yn benodol ar gyfer busnesau lletygarwch, byddai'n £34,000. Mae cyfle yma yng Nghymru i fusnesau o'r maint a'r math hwnnw gael £110,000. Mae hynny'n dangos pa mor arwyddocaol yw ein cronfeydd yng Nghymru a sut rydym yn dal i gynnig y pecyn cymorth mwyaf hael i fusnesau. Ond wrth gwrs, wrth inni ystyried rowndiau cymorth yn y dyfodol, rydym bob amser yn agored i syniadau, a bydd unrhyw awgrymiadau gan unrhyw Aelodau yn cael croeso a derbyniad da iawn yma yn yr adran hon.
Well, can I thank the Minister for his offer, and I'm certainly happy to take him up on that? I think the headlines from me, in terms of ideas, would be to make the criteria less restrictive on the economic resilience fund, to allow more businesses to apply. I appreciate that hospitality businesses on the high street might have got the non-domestic rate relief, but they weren't able to have any additional funding because of the restrictions in place for many of those types of businesses.
I was interested in the evidence that you and your officials gave last week, of course, to the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee. Your officials seemed to acknowledge that there is a large sum of money that the Welsh Government has not yet allocated. You also suggested that your department is perhaps reluctant to draw down or ask for further money from the finance Minister because you're fearful that you won't be able to design and deploy suitable funding schemes quickly enough in order for that money to be spent before the end of the financial year, which, again, would make me push for that to be less restrictive on the criteria, in terms of the economic resilience fund. From my perspective, businesses in non-essential retail, hospitality, tourism and leisure—a whole range of businesses—are crying out for additional support, and that money needs to be spent quickly, and every single bit of money that is available, that the Welsh Government has, has to be spent rather than lost, to ensure that struggling businesses survive through this pandemic.
Wel, a gaf fi ddiolch i'r Gweinidog am ei gynnig, ac rwy'n sicr yn fwy na pharod i'w dderbyn? Rwy'n credu mai'r prif bethau gennyf fi, o ran syniadau, fyddai gwneud y meini prawf yn llai cyfyngol ar gyfer y gronfa cadernid economaidd, er mwyn caniatáu i fwy o fusnesau wneud cais. Rwy'n sylweddoli y gallai busnesau lletygarwch ar y stryd fawr fod wedi cael y rhyddhad ardrethi annomestig, ond nid oedd modd iddynt gael unrhyw arian ychwanegol oherwydd y cyfyngiadau sydd ar waith ar gyfer llawer o'r mathau hynny o fusnesau.
Roedd gennyf ddiddordeb yn y dystiolaeth a roesoch chi a'ch swyddogion yr wythnos diwethaf, wrth gwrs, i Bwyllgor yr Economi, Seilwaith a Sgiliau. Roedd eich swyddogion i'w gweld yn cydnabod bod yna swm mawr o arian nad yw Llywodraeth Cymru wedi'i ddyrannu eto. Fe awgrymoch chi hefyd fod eich adran yn amharod efallai i dynnu rhagor o arian i lawr neu ofyn am ragor o arian gan y Gweinidog Cyllid gan eich bod yn ofni na fyddwch yn gallu llunio cynlluniau cyllido addas a’u rhoi ar waith yn ddigon cyflym er mwyn i'r arian hwnnw gael ei wario cyn diwedd y flwyddyn ariannol, a fyddai, unwaith eto, yn gwneud imi wthio am weld hynny'n llai cyfyngol ar y meini prawf, o ran y gronfa cadernid economaidd. O'm safbwynt i, mae busnesau ym maes manwerthu nad yw’n hanfodol, lletygarwch, twristiaeth a hamdden—ystod eang o fusnesau—yn ymbil am gymorth ychwanegol, ac yn dweud bod angen gwario arian yn gyflym, a bod angen gwario pob darn bach o arian sydd ar gael, sydd gan Lywodraeth Cymru, yn hytrach na'i golli, er mwyn sicrhau bod busnesau sy'n ei chael hi'n anodd yn goroesi'r pandemig hwn.
I'd agree entirely with Russell George that there is a need for urgency in terms of how we support businesses, get money into business accounts and, I think, between Welsh Government, Business Wales and local authorities, the effort has been really quite remarkable in Wales, in terms of the speed at which we've been able to administer grants and awards. But Russell George is also right that we need to ensure that we have systems in place and teams in place that enable us to get money into business accounts by the end of the financial year. We would not wish to send back any financial resource if we can use that money instead to support businesses, and that's why we've always been keen, as we've designed these various schemes, to ensure that we can guarantee that we will be able to deposit money in bank accounts before the end of year, and that mentality will continue.
And in terms of asking the finance Minister for additional financial resource, well, I can tell Members that that £200 million additional fund that was announced by the First Minister last Friday came off the back of discussions between myself and the finance Minister, and the finance Minister kindly agreed to the more generous option of support that was put before her, recognising, as all colleagues do across Government, the urgent need and continued need to support people in employment and to make sure that we save as many businesses as we possibly can.
Byddwn yn cytuno’n llwyr â Russell George fod angen brys o ran sut rydym yn cefnogi busnesau, yn sicrhau bod arian yn cyrraedd cyfrifon busnes, ac yn fy marn i, rhwng Llywodraeth Cymru, Busnes Cymru ac awdurdodau lleol, mae’r ymdrech wedi bod yn eithaf rhyfeddol yng Nghymru, o ran pa mor gyflym rydym wedi gallu rhoi grantiau a dyfarniadau. Ond mae Russell George hefyd yn llygad ei le fod angen inni sicrhau bod gennym systemau ar waith a thimau ar waith sy'n ein galluogi i roi arian mewn cyfrifon busnes erbyn diwedd y flwyddyn ariannol. Ni fyddem yn dymuno anfon unrhyw adnoddau ariannol yn ôl os gallwn ddefnyddio'r arian hwnnw yn lle hynny i gefnogi busnesau, a dyna pam ein bod bob amser wedi bod yn awyddus, wrth inni lunio'r cynlluniau amrywiol hyn, i sicrhau ein bod yn gallu adneuo arian mewn cyfrifon banc cyn diwedd y flwyddyn, a bydd y meddylfryd hwnnw'n parhau.
Ac o ran gofyn i’r Gweinidog Cyllid am adnoddau ariannol ychwanegol, wel, gallaf ddweud wrth yr Aelodau fod y gronfa ychwanegol honno o £200 miliwn a gyhoeddwyd gan y Prif Weinidog ddydd Gwener diwethaf wedi deillio o drafodaethau rhwng y Gweinidog Cyllid a minnau, ac roedd y Gweinidog Cyllid yn ddigon caredig i gytuno i’r opsiwn mwy hael o gymorth a gynigiwyd iddi, gan gydnabod, fel y gwna pob un o'r cyd-Aelodau ar draws y Llywodraeth, yr angen brys a’r angen parhaus i gynnal pobl mewn gwaith ac i sicrhau ein bod yn achub cymaint o fusnesau ag y gallwn.
Llefarydd Plaid Cymu nawr, Helen Mary Jones.
Plaid Cymru spokesperson now, Helen Mary Jones.
Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd. Further to the Minister's responses to Russell George, does he share the concerns that did seem to be being expressed to the committee last week about actually getting the money out of the door quickly enough? In saying this, Llywydd, I completely acknowledge that this is a huge task, and that many of the people who've been involved, at all levels, in delivering support for businesses in Wales have made absolutely heroic efforts. But I, like others who've spoken already today, have got some concerns about actually getting that resource to the right place fast enough.
I have, for example, heard that, in one part of Wales, a survey of hospitality businesses showed that 75 per cent of them had been refused for one or another of the Welsh Government's schemes. They were unable to be clear to me about which schemes they'd been turned down for. And I put this to the Minister as well, that there is quite a bit of complexity out there between support that is available from UK Government and support that's available from the Welsh Government, and I ask the Minister what further he can do to ensure that businesses understand what they should apply for and how they can access that. Does the Minister consider that there may be a case, if there are issues in getting money out of the door centrally, let's say through Business Wales, to divert some of the new resource to provide additional discretionary support, administered by local authorities, who may find it easier to determine if some of those businesses that perhaps don't meet the formal criteria, but they will have a better idea of whether those are genuine businesses or not?
Diolch yn fawr, Lywydd. Yn ychwanegol at ymatebion y Gweinidog i Russell George, a yw’n rhannu’r pryderon a fynegwyd yn y pwyllgor yr wythnos diwethaf, yn ôl pob golwg, ynglŷn â sicrhau bod yr arian yn cael ei ddarparu’n ddigon cyflym? Wrth ddweud hyn, Lywydd, rwy’n cydnabod yn llwyr fod hon yn dasg enfawr, a bod llawer o’r bobl sydd wedi bod ynghlwm, ar bob lefel, wrth ddarparu cymorth i fusnesau yng Nghymru wedi gwneud ymdrechion cwbl arwrol. Ond fel eraill sydd wedi siarad eisoes heddiw, mae gennyf rai pryderon ynglŷn â sicrhau bod yr adnoddau hynny’n mynd i’r lle iawn yn ddigon cyflym.
Rwyf wedi clywed, er enghraifft, fod arolwg o fusnesau lletygarwch mewn un rhan o Gymru wedi dangos bod 75 y cant ohonynt wedi cael eu gwrthod ar gyfer un neu'r llall o gynlluniau Llywodraeth Cymru. Nid oeddent yn gallu dweud yn glir wrthyf ar gyfer pa gynlluniau y cawsant eu gwrthod. A dywedais hyn wrth y Gweinidog hefyd, fod cryn dipyn o gymhlethdod i’w gael rhwng y cymorth sydd ar gael gan Lywodraeth y DU a’r cymorth sydd ar gael gan Lywodraeth Cymru, a gofynnaf i'r Gweinidog beth arall y gall ei wneud i sicrhau bod busnesau'n deall yr hyn y dylent wneud cais amdano a sut y gallant gael mynediad ato. Os oes problemau gyda darparu arian yn ganolog, er enghraifft drwy Busnes Cymru, a yw'r Gweinidog o'r farn y gallai fod achos dros ddargyfeirio rhywfaint o'r adnoddau newydd ar gyfer darparu cymorth dewisol ychwanegol wedi'i weinyddu gan awdurdodau lleol, a allai ei chael hi'n haws penderfynu a oes rhai busnesau'n methu bodloni'r meini prawf ffurfiol efallai, ond bydd ganddynt well syniad a ydynt yn fusnesau dilys ai peidio?
Well, can I thank Helen Mary Jones for the points that she raises and the very valid questions? And I should begin by saying that, normally, this department would administer something in the region of £20 million to £30 million of business support grants through the business and regions budget line in an average year. And, of course, there would be other grants that would be awarded for entrepreneurial start-ups and so forth, but that pales into insignificance compared to the amount of grant awards that we've made this year: £1.7 billion of money is already in the accounts of businesses from the £2 billion available to us. One hundred and seventy-eight thousand grants have been made to businesses, worth £1 billion, through local authorities. That is a remarkable effort. Five hundred and twenty million pounds has been made available to businesses through the Welsh Government's economic resilience fund, supporting thousands and thousands of businesses and 140,000-plus people in employment. So, in terms of being able to get money into bank accounts swiftly, I think we have an incredibly strong story to tell. But we wish to make sure that we continue with that swift pace of administration in the weeks and months to come.
What we are keen to do, as well, is to ensure that businesses don't submit duplicate applications for grants, and, unfortunately, it's become quite apparent of late that a significant number of businesses have indeed submitted duplicate applications, and that can sometimes then hold up an award because we have to cross-reference applications against others, so that we don't make multiple awards to the same business. And so, what I would urge businesses to do, to ensure that they support us in helping them, is to sign up to Business Wales so that they get regular updates, regular digital news letters, and to ensure that when they are considering making an application, whether it be for UK or Welsh Government support, that they do look at the eligibility criteria very carefully, so that they are not then disappointed as a result of either missing details of the eligibility criteria or, indeed, ignoring them completely. It's absolutely essential that businesses help us to help them by applying only once for grants and by applying for the ones that are relevant to them.
Wel, a gaf fi ddiolch i Helen Mary Jones am y pwyntiau y mae'n eu codi a'r cwestiynau dilys iawn? A dylwn ddechrau drwy ddweud y byddai'r adran hon, fel arfer, yn gweinyddu rhywle rhwng £20 miliwn a £30 miliwn o grantiau cymorth busnes drwy linell wariant busnes a rhanbarthau mewn blwyddyn gyffredin. Ac wrth gwrs, byddai grantiau eraill yn cael eu dyfarnu ar gyfer busnesau entrepreneuraidd newydd ac ati, ond nid yw hynny'n ddim o’i gymharu â swm y grantiau rydym wedi'u dyfarnu eleni: mae £1.7 biliwn o arian eisoes yng nghyfrifon busnesau o'r £2 biliwn sydd ar gael i ni. Mae 178,000 o grantiau wedi'u rhoi i fusnesau, gwerth £1 biliwn, drwy awdurdodau lleol. Mae honno'n ymdrech ryfeddol. Mae £520 miliwn ar gael i fusnesau drwy gronfa cadernid economaidd Llywodraeth Cymru, i gefnogi miloedd ar filoedd o fusnesau a mwy na 140,000 o bobl mewn gwaith. Felly, o ran gallu rhoi arian mewn cyfrifon banc yn gyflym, credaf fod gennym hanes anhygoel o gryf. Ond rydym am sicrhau ein bod yn parhau i weinyddu’n gyflym yn yr wythnosau a'r misoedd i ddod.
Yr hyn rydym yn awyddus i'w wneud, hefyd, yw sicrhau nad yw busnesau'n cyflwyno ceisiadau dyblyg am grantiau, ac yn anffodus, mae'n dod yn eithaf amlwg yn ddiweddar fod nifer sylweddol o fusnesau wedi cyflwyno ceisiadau dyblyg, a gall hynny weithiau arwain at oedi cyn rhoi dyfarniad gan fod rhaid inni groesgyfeirio ceisiadau yn erbyn ei gilydd, fel nad ydym yn dyfarnu sawl dyfarniad i'r un busnes. Ac felly, yr hyn y byddwn yn annog busnesau i'w wneud, er mwyn sicrhau eu bod yn ein cefnogi i'w cynorthwyo, yw ymuno â Busnes Cymru fel eu bod yn cael diweddariadau rheolaidd, newyddlenni digidol rheolaidd, ac i sicrhau, pan fyddant yn ystyried gwneud cais, boed hynny am gymorth gan Lywodraeth y DU neu Lywodraeth Cymru, eu bod yn edrych ar y meini prawf cymhwysedd yn ofalus iawn, fel na chânt eu siomi naill ai o ganlyniad i fethu manylion y meini prawf cymhwysedd, neu'n wir, eu hanwybyddu'n llwyr. Mae'n gwbl hanfodol fod busnesau yn ein cynorthwyo ni i'w cynorthwyo hwy drwy wneud ceisiadau am grantiau unwaith yn unig, a thrwy wneud ceisiadau am y rhai sy'n berthnasol iddynt hwy.
I'm grateful to the Minister for his answer. There is still quite a complex picture out there, and I'll return to this through correspondence with the Minister about the issue of whether we can use local authorities more, particularly for getting support to some of the very smallest businesses that are still really important in terms of the people that they employ.
Can I ask the Minister now about longer term support? Obviously, we hope we're going to have an election in May, but we also know that some of the major UK schemes—and I'm thinking in particular of the job retention scheme, the furlough scheme—at the moment are scheduled to come to an end at the end of March. I wonder if the Minister has any sense, given that, unfortunately, the position with regard to the virus is still very serious—we can see some improvements, but it's still very serious—does the Minister have any indication from the UK Government as to whether or not these UK Government schemes are likely to be further extended, if we do find ourselves in a situation where businesses like hospitality can't reopen? And what consideration are the Minister and his team giving to what the Welsh Government will be able to do if that UK support does not continue or does not continue in its present form? I appreciate, of course, that the Welsh Government isn't resourced to do something like the furlough scheme, but I put it to the Minister that you may be wanting to consider what sectors are going to be most likely to continue to be impacted and whether or not you will be able to provide some support, going on further into the summer, particularly for hospitality and tourism businesses if they can't open.
Rwy'n ddiolchgar i'r Gweinidog am ei ateb. Mae’r darlun yn un eithaf cymhleth o hyd, a byddaf yn dychwelyd at hyn drwy ohebiaeth â'r Gweinidog ynglŷn ag a allwn ddefnyddio awdurdodau lleol i raddau mwy, yn enwedig er mwyn sicrhau cymorth i rai o'r busnesau lleiaf un sy'n dal i fod yn bwysig iawn o ran y bobl maent yn eu cyflogi.
A gaf fi ofyn i'r Gweinidog nawr am gymorth mwy hirdymor? Yn amlwg, rydym yn gobeithio cael etholiad ym mis Mai, ond gwyddom hefyd fod rhai o gynlluniau mawr y DU—ac rwy'n meddwl yn benodol am y cynllun cadw swyddi, y cynllun ffyrlo—i fod i ddod i ben ddiwedd mis Mawrth ar hyn o bryd. Tybed a oes gan y Gweinidog unrhyw syniad, o ystyried, yn anffodus, fod y sefyllfa mewn perthynas â'r feirws yn dal i fod yn ddifrifol iawn—gallwn weld rhai gwelliannau, ond mae'n dal i fod yn ddifrifol iawn—a yw’r Gweinidog wedi cael unrhyw arwydd gan Lywodraeth y DU ynglŷn ag a yw cynlluniau Llywodraeth y DU yn debygol o gael eu hymestyn ymhellach ai peidio, os ydym mewn sefyllfa lle na all busnesau fel lletygarwch ailagor? A pha ystyriaeth y mae'r Gweinidog a'i dîm yn ei rhoi i'r hyn y gall Llywodraeth Cymru ei wneud os na fydd cymorth y DU yn parhau, neu os nad yw'n parhau ar ei ffurf bresennol? Rwy'n sylweddoli, wrth gwrs, nad oes gan Lywodraeth Cymru adnoddau i wneud rhywbeth fel y cynllun ffyrlo, ond hoffwn ddweud wrth y Gweinidog y gallech fod eisiau ystyried pa sectorau yw’r rhai mwyaf tebygol o barhau i gael eu heffeithio ac a fyddwch yn gallu darparu rhywfaint o gymorth ai peidio yn nes ymlaen yn yr haf, yn enwedig i fusnesau lletygarwch a thwristiaeth os na allant agor.
Well, can I thank Helen Mary Jones for her further contribution? And she's absolutely right, we would not be in a position—we would simply not be able to afford to replace schemes such as the job retention scheme and the self-employment support scheme in Wales. That requires the might of the UK Treasury. But, throughout this pandemic, what we have done is respond swiftly and appropriately when the UK Government has made announcements regarding support that they are able to offer, and we have shaped our packages to ensure that we plug the gaps and that we add value.
We are awaiting a response from the UK Government with regard to the very many asks that we recently made—and have been calling for for some time—in a formal letter to the Chancellor. I and my friend and colleague Rebecca Evans wrote to the Chancellor asking for the job retention scheme to be preserved for longer. We also asked for other guarantees, including flexibility from HMRC for deferred payments to be allowed for schemes such as the coronavirus business interruption loan scheme. We're awaiting the response from the Chancellor. We haven't had any indication as to whether our ask will be met with a degree of sympathy.
I've also been calling for clarity as to whether the UK Government is going to bring forward a directors income support scheme, which I know that ExcludedUK have been campaigning for and that many people have been requesting. So, we are awaiting details from the UK Government as we approach the budget, and I would hope that the UK Government would, again, recognise the need to extend that crucially important job retention scheme and other schemes, and to be acting with fairness and flexibility with regard to the other areas of activity that I've outlined.
Wel, a gaf fi ddiolch i Helen Mary Jones am ei chyfraniad pellach? Ac mae’n llygad ei lle, ni fyddem mewn sefyllfa—ni fyddem yn gallu fforddio rhoi cynlluniau ar waith yn lle’r cynllun cadw swyddi a'r cynllun cymorth incwm i’r hunangyflogedig yng Nghymru. Mae angen grym Trysorlys y DU i wneud hynny. Ond drwy gydol y pandemig, rydym wedi ymateb yn gyflym ac yn briodol wedi i Lywodraeth y DU wneud cyhoeddiadau ynglŷn â’r cymorth y gallant ei gynnig, ac rydym wedi llunio ein pecynnau i sicrhau ein bod yn llenwi’r bylchau ac yn ychwanegu gwerth.
Rydym yn aros am ymateb gan Lywodraeth y DU mewn perthynas â'r nifer fawr o bethau rydym wedi bod yn gofyn amdanynt yn ddiweddar—ac wedi bod yn galw amdanynt ers peth amser—mewn llythyr ffurfiol at y Canghellor. Ysgrifennais i a fy nghyfaill a'm cyd-Aelod, Rebecca Evans, at y Canghellor yn gofyn iddo gadw'r cynllun cadw swyddi am gyfnod hirach. Gwnaethom ofyn hefyd am fathau eraill o sicrwydd, gan gynnwys hyblygrwydd gan CThEM i ganiatáu gohirio taliadau ar gyfer cynlluniau fel y cynllun benthyciadau tarfu ar fusnes yn sgil y coronafeirws. Rydym yn aros am ymateb y Canghellor. Nid ydym wedi cael unrhyw arwydd i ddynodi faint o gydymdeimlad a fydd ganddo â'n cais.
Rwyf hefyd wedi bod yn galw am eglurder ynglŷn ag a yw Llywodraeth y DU yn mynd i gyflwyno cynllun cymorth incwm i gyfarwyddwyr, gan y gwn fod ExcludedUK wedi bod yn ymgyrchu dros hynny a bod llawer o bobl wedi bod yn gofyn amdano. Felly, rydym yn aros am fanylion gan Lywodraeth y DU wrth inni agosáu at y gyllideb, a byddwn yn gobeithio y byddai Llywodraeth y DU, unwaith eto, yn cydnabod yr angen i ymestyn y cynllun cadw swyddi hanfodol hwnnw a chynlluniau eraill, ac yn gweithredu gyda thegwch a hyblygrwydd mewn perthynas â'r meysydd gweithgaredd eraill rwyf wedi'u hamlinellu.
I'm grateful to the Minister for his answer, and I'm particularly pleased to see that he's continuing to take up the case of those excluded from support, as represented by ExcludedUK. I know the Minister is very well aware of the extent to which this COVID crisis has highlighted and thrown into sharp relief some of the underlying structural injustices and inequalities, whether that's between communities geographically in Wales—we saw Dwyfor Meirionnydd being the county where the most people signed on to receive universal credit, because they weren't able to access their employment in tourism—and we've seen the black and minority ethnic communities particularly badly affected.
I met—virtually, of course—last weekend with some young people from Kidwelly and the wider Llanelli area, and they were telling me that they're really keen to be able to build successful careers here in Wales, but also their focus was wanting to stay in their own community if they can—much more, perhaps, than might have been the case in the past. They wanted to be sure that there would be opportunities for them to do that. They were also very concerned about others, and particularly spoke to me about black people and people of colour in the context of Black Lives Matter. What can the Minister do today to set out for those young people, and young people like them, how he will plan to ensure that those opportunities are available in communities where the economies traditionally have not been strong—and west Wales and parts of the Valleys, of course, are typical of that—and how he will ensure that some of those structural inequalities that have excluded people from opportunities will be addressed in his plans to rebuild the economy after the crisis comes to an end?
Rwy'n ddiolchgar i'r Gweinidog am ei ateb, ac rwy'n arbennig o falch o weld ei fod yn parhau i ddadlau achos y rheini sy’n cael eu heithrio rhag cymorth, fel y mae ExcludedUK yn eu cynrychioli. Gwn fod y Gweinidog yn ymwybodol iawn o'r graddau y mae argyfwng COVID wedi tynnu sylw at rai o'r anghyfiawnderau a'r anghydraddoldebau strwythurol sylfaenol, boed yn ddaearyddol rhwng cymunedau yng Nghymru—gwelsom mai Dwyfor Meirionnydd yw’r sir lle mae'r nifer fwyaf o bobl wedi cofrestru i dderbyn credyd cynhwysol, am na allent fynd i'w gwaith ym maes twristiaeth—ac rydym wedi gweld cymunedau du a lleiafrifoedd ethnig yn cael eu heffeithio'n arbennig o wael.
Cyfarfûm—yn rhithiol, wrth gwrs—â phobl ifanc o Gydweli ac ardal ehangach Llanelli y penwythnos diwethaf, ac roeddent yn dweud wrthyf eu bod yn wirioneddol awyddus i allu adeiladu gyrfaoedd llwyddiannus yma yng Nghymru, ond roeddent hefyd yn awyddus i aros yn eu cymuned eu hunain os gallant—i raddau llawer mwy, o bosibl, nag y byddent wedi bod yn y gorffennol. Roeddent am fod yn sicr y byddai cyfleoedd ar gael iddynt wneud hynny. Roeddent hefyd yn bryderus iawn am eraill, a buont yn siarad â mi’n benodol am bobl dduon a phobl groenliw yng nghyd-destun mudiad Mae Bywydau Du o Bwys. Beth y gall y Gweinidog ei wneud heddiw i nodi ar gyfer y bobl ifanc hynny, a phobl ifanc debyg iddynt, sut y bydd yn cynllunio i sicrhau bod y cyfleoedd hynny ar gael mewn cymunedau lle nad yw'r economïau wedi bod yn gryf yn draddodiadol—ac mae gorllewin Cymru a rhannau o'r Cymoedd, wrth gwrs, yn nodweddiadol o hynny—a sut y bydd yn sicrhau yr eir i'r afael â rhai o'r anghydraddoldebau strwythurol sydd wedi rhwystro pobl rhag cael cyfleoedd yn ei gynlluniau i ailadeiladu'r economi wedi i'r argyfwng ddod i ben?
Helen Mary Jones raises yet another important point, and that is that no young person should have to move out of their community in order to move up in the world. They simply should not have to move away from home if they do not wish to do so. In support of young people, who we know from previous recessions will find it more difficult to enter the jobs market, we have established the barriers fund, we've established the COVID commitment and we've enhanced the Communities for Work Plus budget.
In particular, the COVID commitment provides for thousands of apprenticeship opportunities that would otherwise be lost, an extension to the pilot schemes of the personal learning accounts—we're making it a national scheme—and, of course, it provides, crucially at this time, I think, further support for mental health and resilience, which is most definitely needed for all people, but particularly for young people. The barriers fund is focused on young people in particular, but also people from black, Asian and minority ethnic communities. That allows individuals to draw down grants of up to £2,000 to set up their own businesses. That fund will also be aligned with support and advice from Business Wales to give those start-ups the best prospects for the future.
There are other schemes in place that are designed to support those who are furthest from the jobs market and those who are most likely to be adversely impacted by coronavirus, including the incentive scheme that we established for apprenticeships, where a business is able to draw down up to £3,000 if they take on a young person as an apprentice. All of these schemes are designed to ensure that as many young people as possible do not experience the long-term, deep, scarring effects of an economic downturn that we know, in previous generations, too many people have had to endure.
Mae Helen Mary Jones yn codi pwynt pwysig arall, sef na ddylai unrhyw unigolyn ifanc orfod symud o’u cymuned er mwyn llwyddo mewn bywyd. Ni ddylent orfod symud oddi cartref os nad ydynt yn dymuno gwneud hynny. Er mwyn cefnogi pobl ifanc, y gwyddom o ddirwasgiadau blaenorol y byddant yn ei chael hi’n anoddach cael mynediad at y farchnad swyddi, rydym wedi sefydlu'r gronfa rwystrau, rydym wedi sefydlu’r ymrwymiad COVID ac rydym wedi cynyddu cyllideb Cymunedau am Waith a Mwy.
Yn benodol, mae’r ymrwymiad COVID yn darparu ar gyfer miloedd o gyfleoedd prentisiaeth a fyddai fel arall yn cael eu colli, estyniad i gynlluniau peilot y cyfrifon dysgu personol—rydym yn ei wneud yn gynllun cenedlaethol—ac wrth gwrs, mae'n darparu mwy o gymorth ar gyfer cadernid ac iechyd meddwl, sy'n hanfodol ar yr adeg hon, yn fy marn i, rhywbeth sydd ei angen ar bawb yn bendant, ond pobl ifanc yn enwedig. Mae'r gronfa rwystrau yn canolbwyntio ar bobl ifanc yn benodol, ond hefyd ar bobl o gymunedau pobl dduon ac Asiaidd a lleiafrifoedd ethnig. Mae'n caniatáu i unigolion dynnu grantiau o hyd at £2,000 i lawr i sefydlu eu busnesau eu hunain. Bydd y gronfa honno hefyd yn cyd-fynd â chymorth a chyngor gan Busnes Cymru i roi'r gobaith gorau i'r busnesau hynny ar gyfer y dyfodol.
Mae cynlluniau eraill ar waith a gynlluniwyd i gefnogi'r bobl sydd bellaf o'r farchnad swyddi a'r bobl fwyaf tebygol o gael eu heffeithio’n andwyol gan y coronafeirws, gan gynnwys y cynllun cymhelliant a sefydlwyd gennym ar gyfer prentisiaethau, lle gall busnes dynnu i lawr hyd at £3,000 os ydynt yn cyflogi unigolyn ifanc fel prentis. Mae'r holl gynlluniau hyn wedi'u llunio i sicrhau nad yw cymaint o bobl ifanc â phosibl yn wynebu effeithiau hirdymor, dwfn, a niweidiol dirywiad economaidd y gwyddom fod gormod o bobl mewn cenedlaethau blaenorol wedi gorfod eu dioddef.
3. A wnaiff y Gweinidog ddatganiad am effaith Brexit ar economi Gogledd Cymru? OQ56190
3. Will the Minister make a statement on the impact of Brexit on the economy of North Wales? OQ56190
The agreement reached between the UK Government and the European Union on 24 December 2020, following negotiations, makes trading with the EU considerably more complex. We will continue to do everything possible to support businesses, including Holyhead port, as they adjust, whilst working alongside the UK Government.
Mae'r cytundeb a gafwyd rhwng Llywodraeth y DU a'r Undeb Ewropeaidd ar 24 Rhagfyr 2020, yn dilyn negodiadau, yn golygu bod masnachu gyda'r UE yn fwy cymhleth o lawer. Byddwn yn parhau i wneud popeth yn ein gallu i gefnogi busnesau, gan gynnwys porthladd Caergybi, wrth iddynt addasu, gan weithio ochr yn ochr â Llywodraeth y DU.
Diolch ichi am yr ateb, oherwydd mynd ar ôl dyfodol porthladd Caergybi oeddwn i eisiau ei wneud. Mae'n amlwg yn destun gofid yn sgil y newid rydyn ni wedi ei weld yn yr wythnosau diwethaf, gyda busnes ar y route o Gaergybi i Ddulyn wedi haneru o beth fyddem ni fel arfer yn ei weld ar yr adeg yma. Mae Stena Estrid hefyd, wrth gwrs, wedi cael ei symud i route o Ddulyn i Cherbourg, er ei bod hi nôl, mae'n debyg, yr wythnos yma am gyfnod byrhoedlog; mae'n debyg yn y tymor hirach y bydd hi ddim. Felly, mae yna gonsérn, wrth gwrs, ynglŷn â'r effaith hirdymor ar y porthladd. Yr hyn dwi eisiau gofyn yw beth mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei wneud i gynorthwyo gyda'r gwaith o hwyluso'r defnydd o'r porthladd pan mae'n dod i weithio gyda chwmnïau sy'n symud nwyddau, busnesau a, pan ddaw'r amser, teithwyr hefyd. Oherwydd mae angen gwarchod dyfodol y porthladd, wrth gwrs, ond mae e yn gwneud cyfraniad pwysig nid dim ond i economi Ynys Môn ond i economi gogledd Cymru gyfan.
Thank you for that response, because I was going to pursue the future of the port of Holyhead. It's clearly a cause of concern given the changes we've seen over the last few weeks, with business on the Dublin to Holyhead route having halved from what we would usually see at this time. Stena Estrid has also been shifted to the Dublin to Cherbourg route, although it's back now for the short term; in the longer term, it won't be. So, there is concern, of course, about the long-term impact on the port. What I want to ask is what the Welsh Government is doing to assist with the work of facilitating the use of the port when it comes to working with haulage companies, businesses and, when the time comes, passengers too. Because we do need to safeguard the future of the port, of course, but it does make an important contribution, not only to the Anglesey economy, but the economy of the whole of north Wales.
Indeed. Llyr Huws Gruffydd is absolutely right; it makes a very significant contribution to the Welsh economy and, I'd argue as well, to the UK economy as a whole, which is why it's vitally important that the UK Government respond favourably to the letter that I sent just yesterday addressed to Grant Shapps. In that letter, I expressed my very deep concern over the significant bureaucratic pressures that have been placed on businesses and hauliers involved in trade between the UK and the EU, and how it was having a disproportionate impact on Welsh ports, primarily Holyhead, but also Fishguard and Milford Haven. What we are seeing is that there is a significant increase in capacity on certain routes, including from Rosslare port to Europe, where capacity has been increased by over 500 per cent to meet demand. That demonstrates the real risk to Holyhead and other Welsh ports, and that is why we are calling for the UK Government to respond urgently to support our ports. As soon as I receive a response to my correspondence, I'll be sure to share it with Members.
Yn wir. Mae Llyr Huws Gruffydd yn llygad ei le; mae'n gwneud cyfraniad sylweddol iawn at economi Cymru, a byddwn yn dadlau hefyd, at economi'r DU yn ei chyfanrwydd, a dyna pam ei bod yn hanfodol bwysig fod Llywodraeth y DU yn ymateb yn ffafriol i'r llythyr a anfonais ddoe at Grant Shapps. Yn y llythyr hwnnw, mynegais fy mhryder dwys iawn ynghylch y pwysau biwrocrataidd sylweddol a osodwyd ar fusnesau a chludwyr nwyddau sy'n masnachu rhwng y DU a'r UE, a sut roedd hynny’n cael effaith anghymesur ar borthladdoedd Cymru, Caergybi yn bennaf, ond Abergwaun ac Aberdaugleddau yn bennaf. Yr hyn a welwn yw cynnydd sylweddol yn y capasiti ar rai llwybrau, gan gynnwys o borthladd Rosslare i Ewrop, lle mae'r capasiti wedi'i gynyddu dros 500 y cant i ateb y galw. Mae hynny'n dangos y risg wirioneddol i Gaergybi a phorthladdoedd eraill Cymru, a dyna pam ein bod yn galw ar Lywodraeth y DU i ymateb ar frys i gefnogi ein porthladdoedd. Cyn gynted ag y byddaf yn derbyn ymateb i fy ngohebiaeth, byddaf yn sicr o'i rannu gyda'r Aelodau.
Minister, last week was Farmhouse Breakfast Week, and as you will know, being a representative in north Wales, farming is an important part of the north Wales economy. One of the opportunities presented by Brexit is the opportunity to change public sector procurement rules so that farmers and other producers can get more of their produce purchased by the public sector. What action are you taking as the economy Minister to ensure that this is something that the farming community and others across Wales can take advantage of going forward, and where are we at in terms of the Welsh Government's review of procurement processes, given that we have now left the European Union?
Weinidog, yr wythnos diwethaf oedd Wythnos Brecwast Fferm, ac fel y gwyddoch, gan eich bod yn gynrychiolydd yng ngogledd Cymru, mae ffermio’n rhan bwysig o economi gogledd Cymru. Un o'r cyfleoedd a gyflwynir gan Brexit yw'r cyfle i newid rheolau caffael y sector cyhoeddus fel y gall ffermwyr a chynhyrchwyr eraill werthu mwy o'u cynnyrch i’r sector cyhoeddus. Pa gamau rydych yn eu cymryd fel Gweinidog yr economi i sicrhau bod hyn yn rhywbeth y gall y gymuned ffermio ac eraill ledled Cymru fanteisio arno wrth symud ymlaen, a ble rydym arni gydag adolygiad Llywodraeth Cymru o brosesau caffael, o gofio ein bod bellach wedi gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd?
Can I thank Darren Millar for his question and say that, first and foremost, it's not just through procurement that we can promote more and better local sourcing? What I've been very impressed by is some of the outcomes of the foundational economy challenge fund, where there are examples, particularly in terms of seafood, of businesses within the foundational economy capturing more business locally, rather than purely relying on exports. That's being driven by collaboration and by the seed funding the foundational economy challenge fund has provided, and, of course, now we're looking at scaling up and learning from those lessons that have emerged as a consequence of the challenge fund. I'll certainly invite my colleague the finance Minister to respond in detail regarding where we are on procurement policy, but, obviously, we wish to see local procurement take place wherever and whenever possible. There are good examples—there are superb examples—of that happening across Wales. We want to make sure that it's scaled up and that lessons are learnt and applied.
A gaf fi ddiolch i Darren Millar am ei gwestiwn a dweud, yn gyntaf oll, nad drwy gaffael yn unig y gallwn hyrwyddo mwy o gyrchu lleol a gwell cyrchu lleol? Yr hyn sydd wedi creu cryn argraff arnaf yw rhai o ganlyniadau cronfa her yr economi sylfaenol, lle ceir enghreifftiau, yn enwedig o ran bwyd môr, o fusnesau yn yr economi sylfaenol yn manteisio ar fwy o fusnes yn lleol, yn hytrach na dibynnu'n llwyr ar allforion. Caiff hynny ei lywio gan gydweithredu a chan yr arian sbarduno y mae cronfa her yr economi sylfaenol wedi'i ddarparu, ac wrth gwrs, rydym bellach yn ystyried cynyddu a dysgu o'r gwersi sydd wedi dod i'r amlwg o ganlyniad i'r gronfa her. Byddaf yn sicr yn gwahodd fy nghyd-Aelod y Gweinidog Cyllid i ymateb yn fanwl o ran ble rydym arni ar y polisi caffael, ond yn amlwg, rydym am weld caffael lleol lle bynnag a phryd bynnag y bo modd. Mae enghreifftiau da i’w cael—mae enghreifftiau gwych i’w cael—o hynny’n digwydd ledled Cymru. Rydym am sicrhau bod hynny’n cael ei gynyddu a bod gwersi'n cael eu dysgu a'u gweithredu.
4. A wnaiff y Gweinidog ddatganiad am fuddsoddiad Llywodraeth Cymru i gefnogi datblygiad economaidd ym Mlaenau'r Cymoedd? OQ56186
4. Will the Minister make a statement on Welsh Government investment to support economic development in the Heads of the Valleys? OQ56186
Our strategy is to lay a strong and positive foundation for change across the area. To date, the Tech Valleys programme has made commitments of over £27 million, which will facilitate at least 600 sustainable jobs. The Transforming Towns programme, too, has a strong Heads of the Valleys focus as part of its £110 million investment.
Ein strategaeth yw gosod sylfaen gref a chadarnhaol ar gyfer newid ar draws yr ardal. Hyd yn hyn, mae rhaglen y Cymoedd Technoleg wedi gwneud ymrwymiadau o dros £27 miliwn, a fydd yn hwyluso o leiaf 600 o swyddi cynaliadwy. Mae'r rhaglen Trawsnewid Trefi hefyd yn canolbwyntio’n gryf ar Flaenau’r Cymoedd fel rhan o'i buddsoddiad o £110 miliwn.
I'm grateful to the Minister for that response. We've seen a number of different reports published over the last few days, and without spending time listing them all, they all say essentially two things: first of all that the depth of the economic challenge facing us post COVID and post Brexit is far greater than, perhaps, we would have recognised some time ago, and the second thing they say is that the depth of this challenge is also not borne equally, that we're seeing equality across different communities and different parts of the country having an impact whereby the poorest communities are affected far more harshly than richer communities. One of the issues that's facing the Heads of the Valleys, of course, is that an economy requires support and needs continued investment. We've seen the UK Government respond to this by cutting back on the European funds that they promised us—not a penny less—and also breaking their promises over the shared prosperity fund and other things. How is the Welsh Government going to make good the broken promises from the Conservatives? How will the Welsh Government look towards the investment to take forward the Heads of the Valleys in the future to ensure that the reports we're seeing this week do not become a reality for the people that we all seek to represent?
Rwy'n ddiolchgar i'r Gweinidog am ei ymateb. Rydym wedi gweld nifer o adroddiadau gwahanol yn cael eu cyhoeddi dros yr ychydig ddyddiau diwethaf, a heb dreulio amser yn rhestru pob un ohonynt, mae pob un yn dweud dau beth yn y bôn: yn gyntaf oll, fod dyfnder yr her economaidd sy'n ein hwynebu ar ôl COVID ac ar ôl Brexit yn fwy o lawer nag y byddem, efallai, wedi’i gydnabod beth amser yn ôl, a'r ail beth y maent yn ei ddweud yw nad yw dyfnder yr her yn cael ei ysgwyddo’n gyfartal, ein bod yn gweld cydraddoldeb ar draws gwahanol gymunedau a gwahanol rannau o'r wlad yn cael effaith lle mae'r cymunedau tlotaf yn cael eu heffeithio'n llawer gwaeth na chymunedau cyfoethocach. Un o'r materion sy'n wynebu Blaenau’r Cymoedd, wrth gwrs, yw bod angen cymorth a buddsoddiad parhaus ar economi. Rydym wedi gweld Llywodraeth y DU yn ymateb i hyn drwy dorri’r cronfeydd Ewropeaidd y gwnaethant eu haddo i ni—heb fod geiniog ar ein colled—yn ogystal â thorri eu haddewidion mewn perthynas â’r gronfa ffyniant gyffredin a phethau eraill. Sut y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn gwneud iawn am yr addewidion a dorrwyd gan y Ceidwadwyr? Sut y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn sicrhau’r buddsoddiad i fwrw ymlaen â Blaenau'r Cymoedd yn y dyfodol i wneud yn siŵr nad yw'r adroddiadau a welwn yr wythnos hon yn dod yn realiti i'r bobl y mae pob un ohonom yn ceisio’u cynrychioli?
I think that's an excellent and timely point. I was just reading earlier the report from Sheffield Hallam University by Steve Fothergill and Christina Beatty on the impact of coronavirus on older industrial Britain. I believe that they are soon to speak to the cross-party group on industrial communities that Vikki Howells chairs. They were making the point in their report that the downturn has wiped out 10 years' progress in the economy of older industrial Britain. So, clearly, there is a challenge here right across the UK in communities facing similar challenges, which the European structural funding, of course, was designed to address. The UK Government does now have a moral obligation to replace those to make sure that its successor programmes are attuned to the needs of those communities. So far, they have not done so, but there is still time for them to keep their promises.
On top of that, the Welsh Government is doing a number of things. Obviously, the project I mentioned in my earlier answer—the Tech Valleys and the Valleys taskforce project—has made a number of very practical and useful interventions in Alun Davies's own constituency, and we've got some further announcements due on that soon. But allied to that, touching on the interventions from Darren Millar and from Helen Mary Jones, it's about what we do for the grounded communities, essentially—for those young people in Kidwelly and in Blaina and elsewhere who want to make a future where they and their families have grown up. That's where our everyday economy project really is tightly focused: how do we make use of the money we're already spending through the public sector to make sure that as much of that does not leak out of the community as possible. That can make real tangible impacts.
I know Alun Davies and I have discussed before the opportunities for food processing and production along the Heads of the Valleys road in particular. In NHS Wales, we know from our own analysis that 49 per cent of the money we spend on food goes outside of Wales. Now, we can shift some of that back into Wales, and in every part of Wales there are food producers that could be supplying their local health boards. That will make a real, everyday impact to our economies and communities. And food is just one example. So, that is part of a reform programme that I'm leading work on and that we have early progress on, but there's much more to do.
Credaf fod hwnnw'n bwynt rhagorol ac amserol. Yn gynharach, bûm yn darllen yr adroddiad o Brifysgol Sheffield Hallam gan Steve Fothergill a Christina Beatty ar effaith y coronafeirws ar y Brydain ddiwydiannol hŷn. Rwy'n credu eu bod yn mynd i siarad â'r grŵp trawsbleidiol ar gymunedau diwydiannol a gadeirir gan Vikki Howells cyn bo hir. Roeddent yn gwneud y pwynt yn eu hadroddiad fod y dirywiad wedi dileu 10 mlynedd o gynnydd yn economi’r Brydain ddiwydiannol hŷn. Felly, yn amlwg, mae her yma ledled y DU mewn cymunedau sy'n wynebu heriau tebyg, heriau y cynlluniwyd cyllid strwythurol Ewropeaidd, wrth gwrs, i fynd i'r afael â hwy. Mae gan Lywodraeth y DU rwymedigaeth foesol yn awr i ddarparu cyllid yn ei le i sicrhau bod ei rhaglenni olynol yn cyd-fynd ag anghenion y cymunedau hynny. Hyd yn hyn, nid ydynt wedi gwneud hynny, ond mae amser o hyd iddynt gadw eu haddewidion.
Yn ychwanegol at hynny, mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn gwneud nifer o bethau. Yn amlwg, mae'r prosiect y soniais amdano yn fy ateb cynharach—y Cymoedd Technoleg a phrosiect tasglu'r Cymoedd—wedi gwneud nifer o ymyriadau ymarferol a defnyddiol iawn yn etholaeth Alun Davies, a byddwn yn gwneud rhai cyhoeddiadau pellach ynglŷn â hynny cyn bo hir. Ond ynghyd â hynny, gan gyffwrdd â'r ymyriadau gan Darren Millar a chan Helen Mary Jones, mae'n ymwneud â'r hyn a wnawn dros y cymunedau ar lawr gwlad, yn y bôn—dros y bobl ifanc yng Nghydweli a Blaenau ac mewn mannau eraill sydd am sicrhau dyfodol i’w hunain yn y lle y maent hwy a’u teuluoedd wedi cael eu magu. Dyna ble mae ffocws cryf ein prosiect economi bob dydd: sut rydym yn defnyddio'r arian rydym eisoes yn ei wario drwy'r sector cyhoeddus i sicrhau bod cymaint ohono â phosibl yn aros yn y gymuned. Gall hynny gael effeithiau gweladwy go iawn.
Gwn fod Alun Davies a minnau eisoes wedi trafod y cyfleoedd ar gyfer prosesu a chynhyrchu bwyd ar hyd ffordd Blaenau’r Cymoedd yn arbennig. Yn GIG Cymru, gwyddom o'n dadansoddiad ein hunain fod 49 y cant o'r arian a wariwn ar fwyd yn mynd y tu allan i Gymru. Nawr, gallwn symud rhywfaint ohono yn ôl i Gymru, ac ym mhob rhan o Gymru, ceir cynhyrchwyr bwyd a allai fod yn cyflenwi eu byrddau iechyd lleol. Bydd hynny'n cael effaith wirioneddol, bob dydd ar ein heconomïau a'n cymunedau. Ac un enghraifft yn unig yw bwyd. Felly, mae hynny'n rhan o raglen ddiwygio rwy'n arwain gwaith arni ac y gwelsom gynnydd cynnar arni, ond mae mwy o lawer i'w wneud.
5. A wnaiff y Gweinidog roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf am broses WelTAG sy'n archwilio amlder cynyddol ar lwybr rheilffordd Maesteg-Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr? OQ56169
5. Will the Minister provide an update on the WelTAG process that is examining increased frequency on the Maesteg-Bridgend rail route? OQ56169
Increasing the frequency of services to Maesteg is a key component of the south Wales metro. Transport for Wales are now undertaking stage 2 of the WelTAG process to assess the options for increasing service frequency on this vitally important route.
Mae cynyddu amlder gwasanaethau i Faesteg yn elfen allweddol o fetro de Cymru. Mae Trafnidiaeth Cymru bellach yn cyflawni cam 2 proses Arweiniad ar Arfarnu Trafnidiaeth Cymru (WelTAG) i asesu'r opsiynau ar gyfer cynyddu amlder gwasanaethau ar y llwybr hanfodol bwysig hwn.
Minister, can I welcome that response? I genuinely give my thanks to you, your officials, Network Rail, TfW and Bridgend council officers for their engagement on this vital matter of increasing the frequency of the service on the Maesteg to Bridgend and Cardiff line. It's something, as you know, I've been campaigning on relentlessly—probably to your frustration in some ways—since I arrived in the Senedd back in 2016. I'm like the squeaky wheel on the locomotive, demanding attention. We've completed the WelTAG stage, now on to WelTAG 2. So, can you today reconfirm clearly and loudly Welsh Government's commitment to give us those more trains on the Llynfi line to add to the welcome Sunday service that we gained last year, and to the improvements to carriage stock we've already had? And when the pandemic allows, will he meet with me and campaigners to discuss the welcome progress that we now see?
Weinidog, a gaf fi groesawu eich ymateb? Rwy’n wirioneddol ddiolchgar i chi, eich swyddogion, Network Rail, Trafnidiaeth Cymru a swyddogion cyngor Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr am eu hymwneud ar y mater hanfodol hwn, sef cynyddu amlder y gwasanaeth ar reilffordd Maesteg i Ben-y-bont ar Ogwr a Chaerdydd. Mae'n rhywbeth rwyf wedi bod yn ymgyrchu'n ddi-baid drosto, fel y gwyddoch—er rhwystredigaeth i chi mewn rhai ffyrdd yn ôl pob tebyg—ers imi ddod i’r Senedd yn ôl yn 2016. Rwyf fel yr olwyn wichlyd ar y locomotif, yn mynnu sylw. Rydym wedi cwblhau'r cam WelTAG, ac ymlaen nawr i WelTAG 2. Felly, a allwch gadarnhau ymrwymiad Llywodraeth Cymru yn glir ac yn groyw heddiw i roi mwy o drenau i ni ar reilffordd Llynfi i ychwanegu at y gwasanaeth dydd Sul roeddem yn falch o'i gael y llynedd, ac at y gwelliannau i gerbydau rydym eisoes wedi'u cael? A phan fydd y pandemig yn caniatáu, a wnaiff gyfarfod â mi ac ymgyrchwyr i drafod y cynnydd rydym yn ei weld bellach ac sydd i'w groesawu?
I most certainly will, and can I thank Huw Irranca-Davies for the campaign that he's mounted on behalf of his constituents regarding this matter? We're now working on phase 2 of the WelTAG process to develop options further, and it's important this work continues to take place with the support and engagement of local stakeholders, and Huw Irranca-Davies has been hugely supportive of our efforts to bring together those stakeholders with Transport for Wales. I'll ask my officials to provide Huw Irranca-Davies with details of the five options being considered, and how the next stages of work will be taken forward by Transport for Wales. Obviously, I need to just state that rail infrastructure is not yet a devolved matter, and so we do need the UK Government to step up to the plate and to help us to do this work, and we expect Network Rail to deliver, and UK Government to fund a safe system for crossing at the railway at Pencoed, and we're working with them to ensure that we can make this happen and it is most certainly a priority of mine and this Government.
Gwnaf, yn sicr, ac a gaf fi ddiolch i Huw Irranca-Davies am ei ymgyrchu ar ran ei etholwyr mewn perthynas â'r mater hwn? Rydym yn gweithio ar gam 2 proses WelTAG yn awr i ddatblygu opsiynau ymhellach, ac mae'n bwysig fod y gwaith hwn yn parhau gyda chefnogaeth ac ymgysylltiad rhanddeiliaid lleol, ac mae Huw Irranca-Davies wedi bod yn gefnogol iawn i'n hymdrechion i ddod â’r rhanddeiliaid hynny a Trafnidiaeth Cymru at ei gilydd. Fe ofynnaf i fy swyddogion roi manylion y pum opsiwn sy'n cael eu hystyried i Huw Irranca-Davies, a sut y bydd Trafnidiaeth Cymru yn bwrw ymlaen â chamau nesaf y gwaith. Yn amlwg, mae angen imi nodi nad yw seilwaith rheilffyrdd yn fater sydd wedi'i ddatganoli hyd yma, ac felly mae angen i Lywodraeth y DU ysgwyddo'i chyfrifoldeb a'n cynorthwyo i wneud y gwaith hwn, ac rydym yn disgwyl i Network Rail gyflawni, ac i Lywodraeth y DU ariannu system groesi ddiogel ar y rheilffordd ym Mhencoed, ac rydym yn gweithio gyda hwy i sicrhau y gallwn wneud i hyn ddigwydd, ac yn sicr, mae’n flaenoriaeth i mi a'r Llywodraeth hon.
6. A wnaiff y Gweinidog ddatganiad am effaith y coronafeirws ar yr economi yng Nghanol De Cymru? OQ56184
6. Will the Minister make a statement on the effect of coronavirus on the economy in South Wales Central? OQ56184
Yes, of course. We'll do all that we possibly can do to make sure that businesses are able to recover from the pandemic and we'll continue to support jobs and our economy.
In South Wales Central, the latest restrictions fund has seen more than 4,700 businesses receive in excess of £15.5 million and the sector-specific fund has made 175 payments worth more than £1 million so far.
Gwnaf, wrth gwrs. Byddwn yn gwneud popeth a allwn i sicrhau y gall busnesau adfer wedi'r pandemig a byddwn yn parhau i gefnogi swyddi a'n heconomi.
Yng Nghanol De Cymru, mae'r gronfa ddiweddaraf ar gyfer busnesau dan gyfyngiadau wedi darparu mwy na £15.5 miliwn i 4,700 o fusnesau ac mae'r gronfa sector-benodol wedi gwneud 175 o daliadau gwerth mwy nag £1 filiwn hyd yn hyn.
Thanks for that response. Minister, you will have heard the exchanges in the Chamber yesterday regarding Cardiff Airport, which has, of course, been badly hit by the pandemic. Now, the claim from the Welsh Government side seems to be that Bristol Airport is receiving grants from the UK Government, which is ignoring or neglecting Cardiff Airport. It may be that the UK Government has seen the many millions of public money that have been poured into Cardiff Airport since the Welsh Government took the decision to buy it, so they may take the view that Cardiff Airport has received more than enough public money via Cardiff Bay. Now, in terms of value for money, there has been a struggle to make a return on this public investment into Cardiff Airport. A lot of people in Wales, particularly in north Wales, see much taxpayers' money poured into Cardiff Airport with no real benefit to them. Has the Welsh Government put a limit on the amount of taxpayers' money that they're willing to set aside for Cardiff Airport, and do you think they should do that?
Diolch am eich ymateb. Weinidog, byddwch wedi clywed y dadleuon yn y Siambr ddoe ynglŷn â Maes Awyr Caerdydd, sydd, wrth gwrs, wedi cael ei effeithio’n wael gan y pandemig. Nawr, ymddengys mai'r honiad gan ochr Llywodraeth Cymru yw bod Maes Awyr Bryste yn cael grantiau gan Lywodraeth y DU, sy'n anwybyddu neu'n esgeuluso Maes Awyr Caerdydd. Efallai fod Llywodraeth y DU wedi gweld y miliynau lawer o arian cyhoeddus sydd wedi cael ei dywallt i Faes Awyr Caerdydd ers i Lywodraeth Cymru benderfynu ei brynu, felly efallai eu bod o'r farn fod Maes Awyr Caerdydd wedi derbyn mwy na digon o arian cyhoeddus drwy Fae Caerdydd. Nawr, o ran gwerth am arian, mae gwneud elw ar y buddsoddiad cyhoeddus hwn ym Maes Awyr Caerdydd wedi bod yn anodd. Mae llawer o bobl yng Nghymru, yn enwedig yng ngogledd Cymru, yn gweld llawer o arian trethdalwyr yn cael ei dywallt i mewn i Faes Awyr Caerdydd heb unrhyw fudd gwirioneddol iddynt hwy. A yw Llywodraeth Cymru wedi rhoi terfyn ar faint o arian trethdalwyr y maent yn barod i'w roi o'r neilltu ar gyfer Maes Awyr Caerdydd, ac a ydych yn credu y dylent wneud hynny?
I'd first of all say that there's an odd rationale in Gareth Bennett's argument. He says that essentially, public money should be ploughed into privately owned airports, but public money from Westminster should not be invested in a publicly owned airport within Wales. My argument would be that actually, with most passenger airports globally having some form of public ownership, and some form of public support, it stands to reason that Cardiff international airport should be receiving a fair share of support from the UK Government, and the First Minister was absolutely right to compare the generous offer of support to Bristol Airport as a failure to support Cardiff international airport.
And with regard to sentiments towards Cardiff international airport in the north, it's a fact that Anglesey airport exists primarily on the basis of having that vitally important north-south air route provided, and therefore, Cardiff international airport does provide the existence of jobs and prosperity in a significant part of north Wales.
And I would again argue that it's not just the direct financial support that can be awarded to Cardiff Airport that will ensure its long-term survival—and hopefully in the future we'll see it thrive; there are other ways that UK Government could assist Cardiff international airport. We've outlined them on many occasions, and I hope that in the coming months we will see the UK Government respond positively, including, importantly, the devolution of air passenger duty, which could make a significant difference to Cardiff international.
Yn gyntaf oll, byddwn yn dweud bod rhesymeg od yn nadl Gareth Bennett. Yn y bôn, mae'n dweud y dylid tywallt arian cyhoeddus i feysydd awyr preifat, ond na ddylid buddsoddi arian cyhoeddus o San Steffan mewn maes awyr mewn dwylo cyhoeddus yng Nghymru. Gyda'r rhan fwyaf o feysydd awyr i deithwyr ar draws y byd mewn rhyw fath o berchnogaeth gyhoeddus, ac yn cael rhyw fath o gymorth cyhoeddus, fy nadl i fyddai ei bod hi'n gwneud synnwyr fod maes awyr rhyngwladol Caerdydd yn cael cyfran deg o gymorth gan Lywodraeth y DU, ac roedd y Prif Weinidog yn llygad ei le i gymharu'r cynnig hael o gymorth i Faes Awyr Bryste fel methiant i gefnogi maes awyr rhyngwladol Caerdydd.
Ac o ran teimladau tuag at faes awyr rhyngwladol Caerdydd yn y gogledd, mae'n ffaith bod maes awyr Ynys Môn yn bodoli'n bennaf am fod ganddo'r llwybr awyr hanfodol rhwng y gogledd a’r de, ac felly, mae maes awyr rhyngwladol Caerdydd yn darparu swyddi a ffyniant i ran sylweddol o ogledd Cymru.
A byddwn yn dadlau eto nad y cymorth ariannol uniongyrchol y gellir ei roi i Faes Awyr Caerdydd yn unig a fydd yn sicrhau y bydd yn goroesi yn hirdymor—ac rwy'n gobeithio y byddwn yn ei weld yn ffynnu yn y dyfodol; mae ffyrdd eraill y gallai Llywodraeth y DU gynorthwyo maes awyr rhyngwladol Caerdydd. Rydym wedi eu hamlinellu ar sawl achlysur, ac yn y misoedd nesaf, gobeithio y byddwn yn gweld Llywodraeth y DU yn ymateb yn gadarnhaol, gan gynnwys, yn hollbwysig, datganoli’r doll teithwyr awyr, a allai wneud gwahaniaeth sylweddol i faes awyr rhyngwladol Caerdydd.
7. A wnaiff y Gweinidog ddatganiad am gymorth ariannol i fusnesau a gaewyd ym mis Ionawr 2021 oherwydd rheoliadau COVID-19? OQ56188
7. Will the Minister make a statement on financial support for businesses closed in January 2021 due to COVID-19 regulations? OQ56188
Yes, absolutely. On Friday 22 January, we further enhanced our package of support to businesses affected by alert level four restrictions by £200 million, taking its total to £650 million.
Gwnaf, yn sicr. Ddydd Gwener 22 Ionawr, gwnaethom ddarparu £200 miliwn ychwanegol i’n pecyn cymorth i fusnesau yr effeithiwyd arnynt gan gyfyngiadau lefel pedwar, gan ei gynyddu i gyfanswm o £650 miliwn.
Thank you, Minister. I can tell you that that money will be not just very welcome, but is needed in Wales. Now, I have a number of small accommodation owners contacting me stating that the only Welsh Government funding they can access is the restrictions business fund non-domestic rate grant. It seems that, for some reason, now, tourism businesses are blocked from the sector specific fund that I thought was initially aimed at them. They cannot apply. This is what one Aberconwy business owner told me last week: 'We are approaching breaking point now. We've taken all available measures to keep our outgoings to an absolute minimum, but our monthly overheads are simply too great for us.' You have to remember that, here in Aberconwy, most of these businesses have been in lockdown since 1 October, and then the series of lockdowns that came afterwards. So, there is reason for hope as a further £200 million has been announced, but we've not been provided with the details as to how this will be used, and the set criteria. So, would you clarify this today? But more importantly, do you think that you could look at small guesthouses, bed and breakfasts, and those that don't have half a dozen employees? Sometimes they're just small businesses, but once their income goes, they are in a real fix. Thanks.
Diolch, Weinidog. Gallaf ddweud wrthych y bydd yr arian hwnnw nid yn unig yn cael ei groesawu'n fawr, ond fod mawr ei angen yng Nghymru. Nawr, mae nifer o berchnogion llety bach yn cysylltu â mi i nodi mai'r unig gyllid y gallant gael gafael arno gan Lywodraeth Cymru yw grant ardrethi annomestig y gronfa i fusnesau dan gyfyngiadau. Am ryw reswm, mae'n ymddangos bod busnesau twristiaeth bellach yn cael eu rhwystro rhag cael mynediad at y gronfa sector-benodol y credwn ei bod wedi'i hanelu atynt ar y cychwyn. Ni chânt wneud cais. Dyma a ddywedodd un perchennog busnes yn Aberconwy wrthyf yr wythnos diwethaf: ‘Rydym yn agosáu at y torbwynt nawr. Rydym wedi cymryd yr holl gamau sydd ar gael i gadw ein halldaliadau mor isel â phosibl, ond mae ein gorbenion misol yn rhy fawr i ni.' Mae'n rhaid ichi gofio, yma yn Aberconwy, fod y rhan fwyaf o'r busnesau hyn wedi bod dan gyfyngiadau symud ers 1 Hydref, ac yna'r gyfres o gyfyngiadau symud a ddaeth wedi hynny. Felly, mae rheswm i obeithio wrth i £200 miliwn arall gael ei gyhoeddi, ond nid ydym wedi cael unrhyw fanylion ynglŷn â sut y bydd yr arian hwn yn cael ei ddefnyddio, a'r meini prawf a osodwyd. Felly, a wnewch chi egluro hyn heddiw? Ond yn bwysicach fyth, a ydych yn credu y gallech edrych ar westai bach, busnesau gwely a brecwast, a'r rheini a chanddynt lai na hanner dwsin o weithwyr? Weithiau, dim ond busnesau bach ydynt, ond pan fydd eu hincwm yn diflannu, maent mewn trafferthion go iawn. Diolch.
Can I thank Janet Finch-Saunders for her question, which is so very important to the economy, not just of her constituency, but to north Wales and, indeed, the whole of Wales? Tourism and hospitality are vitally important, supporting thousands upon thousands of people, many of whom are amongst the lowest income earners, and are most likely to be adversely impacted themselves by coronavirus. So, that's why this Welsh Government is so determined to support the sector as much as possible. Indeed, I've already outlined how 10,600 business in tourism and hospitality have already applied for that sector-specific financial support. We're keeping that fund open for an extra period of time to ensure that many of those businesses that have not applied do apply.
I can't comment on the points raised in respect of the specific business that Janet Finch-Saunders outlined, but of course, if the Member would write to me, we'll look at the detail of that particular case. But I can assure the Member that, within Conwy local authority, 146 offers worth more than £1.4 million have already been made to businesses through the sector specific fund. I believe that 67 businesses have already accepted those offers, and in terms of the latest restrictions fund, which is a significant fund indeed, within the local authority area of Conwy, more than 2,160 grants have already been paid out, amounting to more than £6.8 million. So, that demonstrates how money is getting into those business accounts at speed, and on top of that there is still £25 million available through the local authority discretionary funds, available for businesses—often those businesses that have fallen through the gaps. But of course, if the Member wishes to write to me with those specific cases, I would be happy to respond to her correspondence.
A gaf fi ddiolch i Janet Finch-Saunders am ei chwestiwn, sydd mor bwysig i'r economi, nid yn unig yn ei hetholaeth, ond i ogledd Cymru, ac yn wir, i Gymru gyfan? Mae twristiaeth a lletygarwch yn hanfodol bwysig, ac yn cefnogi miloedd ar filoedd o bobl, llawer ohonynt ymhlith yr enillwyr ar yr incwm isaf, ac ymhlith y rhai mwyaf tebygol o gael eu heffeithio'n andwyol gan y coronafeirws. Felly, dyna pam fod Llywodraeth Cymru mor benderfynol o gefnogi'r sector i’r graddau mwyaf posibl. Yn wir, rwyf eisoes wedi amlinellu sut y mae 10,600 o fusnesau twristiaeth a lletygarwch eisoes wedi gwneud cais am y cymorth ariannol sector-benodol hwnnw. Rydym yn cadw'r gronfa honno ar agor am gyfnod ychwanegol o amser i sicrhau bod llawer o'r busnesau nad ydynt wedi gwneud cais eto yn gwneud hynny.
Ni allaf wneud sylwadau ar y pwyntiau a godwyd mewn perthynas â'r busnes penodol a ddisgrifiodd Janet Finch-Saunders, ond wrth gwrs, os gall yr Aelod ysgrifennu ataf, fe edrychwn ar fanylion yr achos penodol hwnnw. Ond gallaf roi sicrwydd i’r Aelod fod 146 o gynigion gwerth mwy na £1.4 miliwn eisoes wedi eu gwneud i fusnesau drwy'r gronfa sector-benodol yn awdurdod lleol Conwy. Credaf fod 67 o fusnesau eisoes wedi derbyn y cynigion hynny, ac o ran y gronfa ddiweddaraf i fusnesau dan gyfyngiadau, sy'n gronfa sylweddol yn wir, yn ardal awdurdod lleol Conwy, mae mwy na 2,160 o grantiau eisoes wedi'u talu, cyfanswm o fwy na £6.8 miliwn. Felly, mae hynny'n dangos sut y mae arian yn mynd i'r cyfrifon busnes hynny'n gyflym, ac yn ogystal, mae £25 miliwn ar gael o hyd drwy gronfeydd dewisol yr awdurdodau lleol, ar gael i fusnesau—yn aml y busnesau sydd wedi cwympo drwy'r bylchau. Ond wrth gwrs, os yw'r Aelod yn dymuno ysgrifennu ataf gyda'r achosion penodol hynny, rwy’n fwy na pharod i ymateb i'w gohebiaeth.
8. A wnaiff y Gweinidog ddatganiad am gynlluniau gwella ffyrdd yng nghanolbarth Cymru? OQ56172
8. Will the Minister make a statement on road improvement schemes in mid Wales? OQ56172
Yes, of course I will. Consultation is about to commence on several minor improvement schemes to address safety concerns in mid Wales. I will also be making an announcement for the start of the new Dyfi bridge scheme shortly having now agreed a revised construction programme.
Gwnaf, wrth gwrs. Mae'r ymgynghoriad ar fin cychwyn ar sawl cynllun gwella bach i fynd i'r afael â phryderon diogelwch yng nghanolbarth Cymru. Byddaf hefyd yn gwneud cyhoeddiad ar ddechrau cynllun pont newydd afon Dyfi cyn bo hir, gan fod rhaglen adeiladu ddiwygiedig bellach wedi’i chytuno.
Thank you, Minister. I'm very pleased to hear about the Dyfi bridge. I know that's a question that's been asked for some time, and I hope we do get that firm commitment and detail that we need on that.
My specific question really concerns delays around the Cefn bridge in Trewern, causing huge congestion and disruption for people living in the area and across Wales. This is bridge that's been hit a number of times. Prior to Christmas, traffic lights were in operation sadly yet again on the bridge. I've certainly conducted my own survey through using my engagement fund through the Senedd facilities, and what people have said is that we do need some significant road improvements on the A458 Welshpool to Shrewsbury route. I would be grateful, Minister, if you could perhaps discuss this with officials. I think there were a number of issues around speed restrictions, et cetera, that need to be looked at. So, can you, Minister, confirm when the Cefn bridge will be repaired again, and can the Minister also forward me proposals for any road improvement schemes on the A458?
Diolch, Weinidog. Rwy'n falch iawn o glywed am bont afon Dyfi. Gwn fod hwnnw'n gwestiwn sydd wedi’i ofyn ers peth amser, ac rwy'n gobeithio y byddwn yn cael y manylion a’r ymrwymiad cadarn rydym eu hangen mewn perthynas â hynny.
Mae fy nghwestiwn penodol yn ymwneud ag oedi ger pont Cefn yn Nhre-wern, sy’n achosi tagfeydd enfawr ac yn tarfu ar bobl sy'n byw yn yr ardal honno a ledled Cymru. Mae’r bont hon wedi cael ei tharo nifer o weithiau. Cyn y Nadolig, roedd goleuadau traffig ar waith ar y bont unwaith eto, yn anffodus. Yn sicr, rwyf wedi cynnal fy arolwg fy hun gan ddefnyddio fy nghronfa ymgysylltu drwy gyfleusterau'r Senedd, a'r hyn y mae pobl wedi'i ddweud yw bod angen gwelliannau ffordd sylweddol ar yr A458 rhwng y Trallwng a'r Amwythig. Byddwn yn ddiolchgar pe gallech drafod hyn gyda swyddogion o bosibl. Credaf fod nifer o faterion yn codi y dylid edrych arnynt mewn perthynas â chyfyngiadau cyflymder ac ati. Felly, Weinidog, a allwch gadarnhau pa bryd y bydd pont Cefn yn cael ei hatgyweirio eto, ac a all y Gweinidog anfon cynigion ataf hefyd ar gyfer unrhyw gynlluniau gwelliannau ffordd ar yr A458?
Can I thank Russell George for his question? And with regard to the Cefn bridge, I do apologise for any inconvenience caused as a result of the work that is required, and I will write to the Member with a full response. With regard to the A458 Welshpool to Shrewsbury road, of course, we're working with counterparts across the border on improvement schemes to routes that cross Wales and England's border. Of course, I'll be keen to ensure that the Member is notified whenever there is any progress on any of those cross-border schemes and, again, I'll write to him with further details.FootnoteLink
A gaf fi ddiolch i Russell George am ei gwestiwn? Ac mewn perthynas â phont Cefn, rwy'n ymddiheuro am unrhyw anghyfleustra a achoswyd o ganlyniad i'r gwaith y mae angen ei wneud, a byddaf yn ysgrifennu at yr Aelod gydag ymateb llawn. O ran ffordd yr A458 rhwng y Trallwng a’r Amwythig wrth gwrs, rydym yn gweithio gyda swyddogion cyfatebol dros y ffin ar gynlluniau i wella llwybrau sy'n croesi ffin Cymru a Lloegr. Wrth gwrs, byddaf yn awyddus i sicrhau bod yr Aelod yn cael ei hysbysu pan fydd unrhyw gynnydd ar unrhyw un o'r cynlluniau trawsffiniol hynny, ac unwaith eto, byddaf yn ysgrifennu ato gyda manylion pellach.FootnoteLink
Diolch i'r Gweinidog.
Thank you, Minister.
Yr eitem nesaf, felly, yw'r cwestiynau i'r Gweinidog sydd â chyfrifoldeb am bontio Ewropeaidd, ac mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf gan Helen Mary Jones.
The next item is questions to the Counsel General and Minister for European transition, and the first question is from Helen Mary Jones.
1. Pa asesiad y mae'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol wedi'i wneud o'r effaith y bydd y cytundeb masnach rhwng y DU a'r UE yn ei chael ar ddyfodol diwydiant dur Cymru, yn enwedig gwaith Trostre yn Llanelli? OQ56175
1. What assessment has the Counsel General made of the impact that the trade agreement between the UK and EU will have on the future of the Welsh steel industry, particularly the Trostre works in Llanelli? OQ56175
We understand the steel industry and unions have cautiously welcomed the EU-UK trade co-operation agreement. We welcome the tariff-free quotas agreed for GB steel exports to the EU, but share the concerns of the industry about the capacity of sales to Northern Ireland counting against these quotas.
Rydym yn deall bod y diwydiant dur ac undebau wedi rhoi croeso gofalus i’r cytundeb cydweithredu masnachol rhwng yr UE a’r DU. Rydym yn croesawu’r cwotâu di-dariff y cytunwyd arnynt ar gyfer allforion dur Prydain i’r UE, ond rydym yn rhannu pryderon y diwydiant fod capasiti gwerthiannau i Ogledd Iwerddon yn cyfrif yn erbyn y cwotâu hyn.
I'm grateful to the Counsel General for his answer. Obviously, the future of the industry depends on being able to move towards a decarbonised future, and I wonder if the Counsel General can inform of us today of any further discussions that have taken place between the Welsh Government and the UK Government with regard to their support for the future of the industry in Wales in that regard. And can he tell us whether the Welsh Government will be able to make further support available for the company in areas such as skills and research and development, bearing in mind that if we are to have a successful steel industry in future, and to be able to take advantage of that tariff-free arrangement, there'll be an extensive need to update the industry and how it operates?
Rwy'n ddiolchgar i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol am ei ateb. Yn amlwg, mae dyfodol y diwydiant yn dibynnu ar allu symud tuag at ddyfodol wedi'i ddatgarboneiddio, a tybed a all y Cwnsler Cyffredinol roi gwybod inni heddiw ynglŷn ag unrhyw drafodaethau pellach a gafwyd rhwng Llywodraeth Cymru a Llywodraeth y DU mewn perthynas â'u cymorth i ddyfodol y diwydiant yng Nghymru yn hynny o beth. Ac a all ddweud wrthym p'un a fydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn gallu sicrhau bod cymorth pellach ar gael i'r cwmni mewn meysydd fel sgiliau ac ymchwil a datblygu, gan gofio, os ydym am gael diwydiant dur llwyddiannus yn y dyfodol, a gallu manteisio ar y trefniant di-dariff, y bydd angen mawr i ddiweddaru'r diwydiant a sut y mae'n gweithredu?
Well, in terms of the updating of the industry on the operation of the tariff-free arrangements, obviously, she will know that there is a moment in June of this year when the safeguard arrangements need to be clarified, and we are pressing as a Government for immediate clarification from—[Inaudible.]
Wel, o ran diweddaru’r diwydiant ar weithrediad y trefniadau di-dariff, yn amlwg, bydd yn gwybod y bydd adeg ym mis Mehefin eleni pan fydd angen egluro’r trefniadau diogelu, ac rydym yn pwyso fel Llywodraeth am eglurhad ar unwaith gan—[Anghlywadwy.]
Ataliwyd y Cyfarfod Llawn am 14:28.
Plenary was suspended at 14:28.
Ailymgynullodd y Senedd am 14:38, gyda'r Llywydd yn y Gadair.
The Senedd reconvened at 14:38, with the Llywydd in the Chair.
Jeremy Miles, felly, i barhau gyda'i ateb i gwestiwn Helen Mary Jones.
Jeremy Miles to continue with his response to the question from Helen Mary Jones.
Diolch, Llywydd. In terms of supporting the steel sector in Wales, in order to respond to the new arrangements, one of the first considerations that we need clarity on with the sector is in relation to the safeguard measures that currently apply to protect certain quantities of steel exports into the EU. Those safeguards expire, as the Member may be aware, in June of this year, and we're seeking immediate clarification from the UK Government about the status at that point. We recognise, certainly, in Wales, that an announcement coming close to the wire would not be in the interests of the sector in Wales.
In terms of the other kind of support that the Member was asking about, obviously we've funded skills support in the sector for a number of years, and continue to do that, including in relation to the workforce at Tata. And, indeed, there's a significant amount of work happening in the sector in relation to decarbonisation, which the industry itself is keen to ensure happens in a way that can support and sustain the industry into the future. And I know in her own—. She mentioned Trostre in Llanelli in her question, and I know from my discussions with Lee Waters, the Member of the Senedd for Llanelli, that he is closely in touch with the works in relation to those sorts of issues as well.
Diolch, Lywydd. O ran cefnogi'r sector dur yng Nghymru, er mwyn ymateb i'r trefniadau newydd, un o'r ystyriaethau cyntaf rydym angen eglurder yn ei gylch gyda'r sector yw'r mesurau diogelu sy'n berthnasol ar hyn o bryd i ddiogelu symiau penodol o allforion dur i'r UE. Daw'r mesurau diogelu hynny i ben, fel y gŵyr yr Aelod efallai, ym mis Mehefin eleni, ac rydym yn gofyn am eglurhad ar unwaith gan Lywodraeth y DU ynglŷn â'r statws bryd hynny. Rydym yn cydnabod, yn sicr, yng Nghymru, na fyddai cyhoeddiad munud olaf o fudd i'r sector yng Nghymru.
O ran y math arall o gymorth roedd yr Aelod yn gofyn amdano, mae'n amlwg ein bod wedi ariannu cymorth sgiliau yn y sector ers nifer o flynyddoedd, ac yn parhau i wneud hynny, gan gynnwys mewn perthynas â'r gweithlu yn Tata. Ac yn wir, mae cryn dipyn o waith yn digwydd yn y sector mewn perthynas â datgarboneiddio, ac mae'r diwydiant ei hun yn awyddus i sicrhau bod y gwaith hwnnw'n digwydd mewn ffordd a all gefnogi a chynnal y diwydiant i'r dyfodol. A gwn, yn ei—. Soniodd am Trostre yn Llanelli yn ei chwestiwn, a gwn o fy nhrafodaethau gyda Lee Waters, yr Aelod o'r Senedd dros Lanelli, ei fod mewn cysylltiad agos â'r gwaith ynglŷn â'r mathau hynny o faterion hefyd.
Thank you, Minister, for that clarity, particularly on the safeguarding agenda, because it is important that we look at how we protect steel imports and exports, and the trade agreement is looking at that. I'm also concerned about, perhaps, how steel comes in and is stored in bonded warehouses or steel stockholders, and the concern is that, when people then say, 'We're using British steel', they're particularly talking about British-sourced steel, not British-produced steel. Now, it's important, therefore, that we go through this next step to ensure that we use Welsh- and British-produced steel, and not simply steel that's sourced in the UK. Will you therefore have discussions with your colleagues in the Cabinet, and with the UK Ministers, to ensure that they now start reflecting upon British-produced steel to ensure that, when they put in their procurement, they are supporting our steel industry and not simply using bonded warehouses to get steel in from elsewhere, which is going to damage our steel industry?
Diolch am yr eglurder hwnnw, Weinidog, yn enwedig ynglŷn â'r agenda ddiogelu, oherwydd mae'n bwysig inni edrych ar sut rydym yn diogelu mewnforion ac allforion dur, ac mae'r cytundeb masnach yn edrych ar hynny. Rwyf hefyd yn pryderu ynglŷn â sut y mae'r dur yn dod i mewn, efallai, ac yn cael ei storio mewn warysau bond neu lefydd cadw stoc ddur, a'r pryder yw, pan fydd pobl yn dweud wedyn, 'Rydym yn defnyddio dur Prydain', maent yn sôn yn benodol am ddur o ffynonellau Prydeinig, nid dur a gynhyrchir ym Mhrydain. Nawr, mae'n bwysig, felly, ein bod yn gweithredu'r cam nesaf hwn i sicrhau ein bod yn defnyddio dur o Gymru a Phrydain, ac nid dur sy'n a gyrchir yn y DU yn unig. A wnewch chi drafod gyda'ch cyd-Weinidogion yn y Cabinet felly, a chyda Gweinidogion y DU, i sicrhau eu bod yn dechrau ystyried dur a gynhyrchir ym Mhrydain nawr i sicrhau, pan fyddant yn gwneud eu caffael, eu bod yn cefnogi ein diwydiant dur yn hytrach na defnyddio warysau bond i gaffael dur o fannau eraill, gan niweidio ein diwydiant dur?
Absolutely. I take very much the point that David Rees raises in his question. It's absolutely essential that we do all that we can, and continue to do all that we can, to support British-produced steel, and in our case, of course, Welsh-produced steel. One of the considerations that we are anxious about is that one of the consequences of the safeguarding arrangements currently in place is that the quota that protects British-produced steel effectively is eaten up, if you like, by transit of steel into Northern Ireland. And so that is one of the concerns—you want to make sure that should not reduce the overall availability of the protection available to British steel.
Yn sicr. Rwy'n sicr yn derbyn y pwynt y mae David Rees yn ei godi yn ei gwestiwn. Mae'n gwbl hanfodol ein bod yn gwneud popeth yn ein gallu, ac yn parhau i wneud popeth yn ein gallu, i gefnogi dur a gynhyrchir ym Mhrydain, a dur a gynhyrchir yng Nghymru yn ein hachos ni wrth gwrs. Un o'r ystyriaethau rydym yn bryderus yn ei chylch yw mai un o ganlyniadau'r trefniadau diogelu sydd ar waith ar hyn o bryd yw bod y cwota sy'n diogelu dur a gynhyrchir ym Mhrydain yn cael ei lyncu i bob pwrpas, os mynnwch, gan ddur tramwy i Ogledd Iwerddon. Ac felly dyna un o'r pryderon—rydych eisiau sicrhau na ddylai hynny leihau argaeledd cyffredinol y diogelwch sydd ar gael i ddur Prydain.
2. Pa drafodaethau y mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi'u cynnal gyda Llywodraeth y DU ynghylch hawliau gweithwyr ers diwedd y cyfnod pontio? OQ56180
2. What discussions has the Welsh Government held with the UK Government about workers' rights since the end of the transition period? OQ56180
We have consistently said to the UK Government, through the Joint Ministerial Committee (EU Negotiations) and in bilateral discussions, that the UK must commit to non-regression from existing standards and employment rights. The UK must stick to the obligations it has entered into in the EU-UK trade and co-operation agreement.
Rydym wedi dweud yn gyson wrth Lywodraeth y DU, drwy'r Cyd-bwyllgor Gweinidogion (Negodiadau'r UE) ac mewn trafodaethau dwyochrog, fod yn rhaid i'r DU ymrwymo i gadw at y safonau a'r hawliau cyflogaeth presennol. Mae'n rhaid i'r DU gadw at y rhwymedigaethau y mae wedi cytuno iddynt yn y cytundeb masnach a chydweithredu rhwng yr UE a'r DU.
Thank you, Minister, and can I welcome the First Minister's robust defence of workers' rights in response to questions in the Senedd yesterday, because news that the UK Tory Government is again planning to attack workers' rights should shock no-one? We know our history, and we know the price that was paid to secure and improve the rights of workers, and it should make people angry, and I hope make them organise in resistance through their trade unions.
Minister, there are less than 100 days to the Senedd elections and we can now clearly see that workers' rights are on the ballot paper. So, to avoid any more broken Tory promises, promises that are now as smelly as the rotting fish in our sea ports, can I ask you to assure me that the Welsh Government, and the party that we represent here in this Senedd, will challenge any attempt by the Tories to sacrifice workers' rights on the altar of their free market dogma?
Diolch, Weinidog, ac a gaf fi groesawu amddiffyniad cadarn y Prif Weinidog o hawliau gweithwyr mewn ymateb i gwestiynau yn y Senedd ddoe, oherwydd ni ddylai'r newyddion fod Llywodraeth Dorïaidd y DU yn bwriadu ymosod ar hawliau gweithwyr unwaith eto fod yn syndod i neb? Gwyddom ein hanes, a gwyddom y pris a dalwyd i sicrhau a gwella hawliau gweithwyr, a dylai wneud pobl yn ddig a'u paratoi i wrthsefyll, gobeithio, drwy eu hundebau llafur.
Weinidog, mae llai na 100 diwrnod nes etholiadau'r Senedd a gallwn weld yn glir yn awr fod hawliau gweithwyr ar y papur pleidleisio. Felly, er mwyn osgoi rhagor o addewidion toredig y Torïaid, addewidion sydd bellach mor ddrewllyd â'r pysgod sy'n pydru yn ein porthladdoedd, a gaf fi ofyn ichi fy sicrhau y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru, a'r blaid a gynrychiolwn yma yn y Senedd hon, yn herio unrhyw ymgais gan y Torïaid i aberthu hawliau gweithwyr ar allor eu dogma marchnad rydd?
I thank Dawn Bowden for that supplementary, and for her longstanding advocacy of the cause of trade union membership as well. Workers across Wales and the UK will be utterly dismayed, I think, that, at the height of a pandemic and economic crises, the UK Government think that it's remotely appropriate to consider taking an axe to basic protections on working time and holiday pay entitlements. We want work to be fairer, safer and more secure, and we will absolutely resist the Conservative and the Brexiteer fantasy that our future lies in a deregulated and exploitative workplace. The UK Government says it's committed to maintaining existing protections, and, if that is true, then why is it undertaking a review? I agree with Dawn Bowden—faced with a UK Government that seems determined to strip away their rights at work, it's more important than ever that workers should join a trade union, and we will use every lever to mitigate the damaging impact of any UK Government attempt to dilute workers' rights and protections. Whether that's the power of the public purse or our social partnership approach, we are absolutely committed, as a Welsh Labour-led Government, to justice in the workplace and to fair work practices.
Diolch i Dawn Bowden am y cwestiwn atodol hwnnw, ac am ei chefnogaeth hirsefydlog i achos undebaeth lafur hefyd. Credaf y bydd gweithwyr ledled Cymru a'r DU yn gwbl siomedig fod Llywodraeth y DU, ar anterth pandemig ac argyfyngau economaidd, yn credu ei bod yn briodol mewn unrhyw fodd o gwbl i ystyried torri amddiffyniadau sylfaenol ar amser gweithio a hawliau tâl gwyliau. Rydym eisiau i waith fod yn decach ac yn fwy diogel, a byddwn yn llwyr wrthwynebu ffantasi'r Ceidwadwyr a chefnogwyr Brexit sy'n honni bod ein dyfodol yn gorwedd mewn gweithle camfanteisiol wedi'i ddadreoleiddio. Dywed Llywodraeth y DU ei bod wedi ymrwymo i gynnal amddiffyniadau sy'n bodoli eisoes, ac os yw hynny'n wir, pam y mae'n cynnal adolygiad? Rwy'n cytuno â Dawn Bowden—yn wyneb Llywodraeth y DU sy'n ymddangos fel pe bai'n benderfynol o ddileu eu hawliau yn y gwaith, mae'n bwysicach nag erioed fod gweithwyr yn ymuno ag undeb llafur, a byddwn yn defnyddio pob dull o liniaru effaith niweidiol unrhyw ymgais gan Lywodraeth y DU i wanhau hawliau ac amddiffyniadau gweithwyr. Boed hynny drwy bŵer pwrs y wlad neu ein dull partneriaeth gymdeithasol, rydym wedi ymrwymo'n llwyr, fel Llywodraeth Cymru dan arweiniad y Blaid Lafur, i gyfiawnder yn y gweithle ac i arferion gwaith teg.
Cwestiynau nawr gan lefarwyr y pleidiau. Llefarydd Plaid Cymru, Dai Lloyd.
Questions now from the party spokespeople. Plaid Cymru spokesperson, Dai Lloyd.
Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd, a phrynhawn da, Gweinidog.
Thank you, Llywydd, and good afternoon, Minister.
It was good to see a written statement from you, Minister, last week, informing Members that you'd issued formal proceedings in the administrative courts seeking permission for a judicial review to the UK internal market Act. Now, Plaid Cymru supports this endeavour. As we've stated before many times, the Act undermines Welsh democracy and drives a coach and horses through the devolution settlement. I hope that the Minister will keep Members continuously informed over the developing situation with regard to this legal action. In the meantime, however, could the Minister update us on whether or not he has discussed this legal action with counterparts in the other devolved administrations? Could he perhaps outline to us what efforts are being made to include the Scottish Government and Northern Ireland Executive, as supporters of this legal action, which, as I'm sure he would agree with me, will undoubtedly bolster the credibility of the case in favour of a judicial review into this latest power grab?
Roedd yn dda gweld datganiad ysgrifenedig gennych chi yr wythnos diwethaf, Weinidog, yn hysbysu'r Aelodau eich bod wedi dwyn achos cyfreithiol yn y llysoedd gweinyddol i geisio caniatâd i gynnal adolygiad barnwrol o Ddeddf marchnad fewnol y DU. Nawr, mae Plaid Cymru yn cefnogi'r ymgais hon. Fel rydym wedi'i ddweud droeon o'r blaen, mae'r Ddeddf yn tanseilio democratiaeth Cymru ac yn gyrru ceffyl a throl drwy'r setliad datganoli. Rwy'n gobeithio y bydd y Gweinidog yn parhau i ddarparu'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i'r Aelodau am y sefyllfa sy'n datblygu mewn perthynas â'r camau cyfreithiol hyn. Yn y cyfamser, fodd bynnag, a allai'r Gweinidog roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf inni ynglŷn ag a yw wedi trafod y camau cyfreithiol hyn gyda chymheiriaid yn y gweinyddiaethau datganoledig eraill? A allai amlinellu wrthym, efallai, pa ymdrechion sy'n cael eu gwneud i gynnwys Llywodraeth yr Alban a Gweithrediaeth Gogledd Iwerddon, fel cefnogwyr i'r camau cyfreithiol hyn, gan y byddai hynny, fel y bydd yn cytuno rwy'n siŵr, yn sicr o gryfhau hygrededd yr achos o blaid cynnal adolygiad barnwrol i'r ymdrechion diweddaraf hyn i gipio pŵer?
Certainly. Well, the Member will obviously understand that I would not wish to disclose the detail of conversations between law officers in different parts of the UK. However, I can obviously say that he will perhaps have noted from the pleadings that we have acknowledged that both the law officers of Scotland and Northern Ireland are interested parties in the sense of having an interest in the outcome. The Scottish Government, as he may also have seen, has issued more than one statement of support for the course of action that we are taking as a Government. We are now at a stage where the initial application will be for the court to decide whether we have leave to bring a judicial review before an actual hearing takes place. And I think if, as we hope, the court does grant us leave to take the action forward, then I think it's at that point that the decision of other devolved Governments would crystallise about their relationship to the legal proceedings.
Yn sicr. Wel, bydd yr Aelod yn amlwg yn deall na fyddwn eisiau datgelu manylion sgyrsiau rhwng swyddogion y gyfraith mewn gwahanol rannau o'r DU. Fodd bynnag, gallaf ddweud wrth gwrs y bydd wedi nodi o'r plediadau o bosibl ein bod wedi cydnabod bod gan swyddogion y gyfraith yn yr Alban a Gogledd Iwerddon ddiddordeb yn yr ystyr bod ganddynt ddiddordeb yn y canlyniad. Mae Llywodraeth yr Alban, fel y gwelodd hefyd efallai, wedi cyhoeddi mwy nag un datganiad o gefnogaeth i'r camau rydym yn eu cymryd fel Llywodraeth. Rydym bellach ar y cam lle mai'r cais cychwynnol fydd i'r llys benderfynu a gawn gyflwyno adolygiad barnwrol cyn i wrandawiad gael ei gynnal. Ac os bydd y llys yn caniatáu i ni fwrw ymlaen â'r achos, fel rydym yn gobeithio, credaf mai ar y pwynt hwnnw y byddai penderfyniad Llywodraethau datganoledig eraill yn ymffurfio ynglŷn â'u perthynas â'r achos cyfreithiol.
Thank you for that, Minister. Moving on, buried deep within the UK-EU trade and co-operation agreement is an article that states that the European Parliament and UK Parliament,
'may establish a Parliamentary Partnership Assembly'
consisting of MPs and MEPs. My understanding is that there is already talk within the UK and European Parliaments as to how to get this moving, but nothing's been formalised yet. As we know, the UK-EU agreement covers many areas of policy that are in fact devolved. Does the Minister agree with me, therefore, that we cannot just accept that only MPs from Westminster would be allowed to be represented on such a committee, and may I ask that, given that the establishment of this partnership committee has yet to be formalised, whether the Welsh Government, if they haven't already, could make representations and work with others to ensure that parliamentarians from across the devolved administrations are represented on this committee?
Diolch ichi am hynny, Weinidog. Gan symud ymlaen, wedi'i gladdu'n ddwfn o fewn y cytundeb masnach a chydweithredu rhwng y DU a'r UE ceir erthygl sy'n nodi y caiff Senedd Ewrop a Senedd y DU,
sefydlu Cynulliad Partneriaeth Seneddol
sy'n cynnwys Aelodau Seneddol ac Aelodau o Senedd Ewrop. Yn ôl yr hyn a ddeallaf, mae trafodaethau eisoes ar y gweill yn Senedd y DU a Senedd Ewrop ynglŷn â sut i sicrhau bod hyn yn digwydd, ond nid oes dim wedi'i ffurfioli eto. Fel y gwyddom, mae cytundeb y DU-UE yn cwmpasu llawer o feysydd polisi sydd wedi'u datganoli mewn gwirionedd. A yw'r Gweinidog yn cytuno â mi, felly, na allwn dderbyn mai dim ond Aelodau Seneddol o San Steffan a fyddai'n cael eu cynrychioli ar bwyllgor o'r fath, ac a gaf fi ofyn, o gofio nad yw'r gwaith o sefydlu'r pwyllgor partneriaeth hwn wedi'i ffurfioli eto, a allai Llywodraeth Cymru, os nad ydynt eisoes wedi gwneud hynny, gyflwyno sylwadau a gweithio gydag eraill i sicrhau bod seneddwyr o bob rhan o'r gweinyddiaethau datganoledig yn cael eu cynrychioli ar y pwyllgor hwn?
Dai Lloyd raises a very important point in that question. The agreement makes a number of provisions in relation to the future governance of the relationship. Generally speaking, apart from, I think, in one context, the devolved institutions aren't expressly included in that. And one of the points that I've made already myself to UK Ministers relates to making sure that Wales has that role in the governance structures, going forward, which reflects exactly the point about the devolved nature of many of the areas under discussion through those governance frameworks. We're developing what we would regard as a detailed ask in relation to that, but the principle point has already been made: that Wales needs to be properly represented in that set of structures in the way that, when we were part of the European Union, the Council of Ministers' arrangements made provision for that sort of engagement.
Mae Dai Lloyd yn codi pwynt pwysig iawn yn ei gwestiwn. Mae'r cytundeb yn gwneud nifer o ddarpariaethau mewn perthynas â llywodraethu'r berthynas yn y dyfodol. Yn gyffredinol, ar wahân i un cyd-destun, rwy'n credu, nid yw'r sefydliadau datganoledig wedi'u cynnwys yn benodol yn hynny. Ac mae un o'r pwyntiau rwyf wedi'i wneud eisoes i Weinidogion y DU yn ymwneud â sicrhau bod gan Gymru'r rôl honno yn y strwythurau llywodraethu wrth symud ymlaen, sy'n adlewyrchu'r union bwynt am natur ddatganoledig llawer o'r meysydd sy'n cael eu trafod drwy'r fframweithiau llywodraethu hynny. Rydym yn datblygu'r hyn y byddem yn ei ystyried yn ofyniad manwl mewn perthynas â hynny, ond mae'r pwynt o egwyddor eisoes wedi'i wneud: fod angen i Gymru gael ei chynrychioli'n briodol yn y set honno o strwythurau yn yr un ffordd ag yr oedd trefniadau Cyngor y Gweinidogion yn darparu ar gyfer y math hwnnw o ymgysylltiad pan oeddem yn rhan o'r Undeb Ewropeaidd.
Thank you. Finally, I raised the issue of the UK shared prosperity fund with you, Minister, back in December and how this will impact the Welsh Government's ability to implement their own framework for regional investment in Wales. You stated, in response to my question, Minister, that,
'the UK Government ought to engage with us about how we can, even at this late hour, make sure that the people in Wales have the promises they were made kept, both with regard to how the funds are spent, but also crucially what those funds are.'
Last week, the UK Government announced that they intended to plough ahead and bypass the devolved administrations and replace European structural funds with a centrally controlled fund in Whitehall. Where does this leave, therefore, the Welsh Government's own framework for regional investment, given that you yourself have said that the delivery of this framework is dependent on positive engagement with the UK Government—your words. Are these plans now dead in the water?
Diolch. Yn olaf, codais fater cronfa ffyniant gyffredin y DU gyda chi yn ôl ym mis Rhagfyr a sut y bydd hyn yn effeithio ar allu Llywodraeth Cymru i weithredu eu fframwaith eu hunain ar gyfer buddsoddi rhanbarthol yng Nghymru. Dywedasoch, mewn ymateb i fy nghwestiwn, Weinidog, y dylai
'Llywodraeth y DU ymgysylltu â ni, hyd yn oed ar yr awr hwyr hon, ynglŷn â sut y gallwn sicrhau bod yr addewidion a wnaed i bobl Cymru yn cael eu cadw, o ran sut y caiff yr arian ei wario, ond hefyd, yn hollbwysig, o ran beth yw'r arian hwnnw.'
Yr wythnos diwethaf, cyhoeddodd Llywodraeth y DU ei bod yn bwriadu bwrw ymlaen heibio i'r gweinyddiaethau datganoledig a chael cronfa wedi'i rheoli'n ganolog yn Whitehall yn lle cronfeydd strwythurol Ewropeaidd. Ble mae hyn yn gadael fframwaith Llywodraeth Cymru ar gyfer buddsoddi rhanbarthol felly, o gofio eich bod chi eich hun wedi dweud bod cyflawni'r fframwaith yn dibynnu ar ymgysylltiad cadarnhaol â Llywodraeth y DU—eich geiriau chi. A yw'r cynlluniau hyn bellach wedi mynd i'r gwellt?
They are not dead in the water; they are the fruit of very considerable joint working with the private sector, public sector, third sector, universities, and so on, right across Wales, and they remain the Welsh Government's ambition for supporting regional investment in Wales through the shared prosperity fund and, indeed, in any other way. We are working with stakeholders to understand, obviously, what is a shifting landscape in Westminster in relation to this. What I would say to the Member is that we have not had the close discussions we would have expected to have at this stage, even, as it were, at this late stage, with the relevant Whitehall department. I think there has been a woeful lack of ministerial engagement with us around that. My understanding is that there has been a delay in the piloting—in the prospectus for the pilots—which won't now, obviously, be happening in January, and I think may not even happen in February. I do want to reiterate that the framework provides an approach for the future that has a broad base of support in Wales, which the UK Government would, I think, do well to engage, because that represents what businesses, local government and, as I say, other public bodies across Wales want to see as the future of regional funding in Wales. We have a plan. It's a plan that has been consulted on and co-designed and co-developed, and that is the framework that I think best represents the way for the shared prosperity fund to be put to work, and that should be done in partnership with us, rather than attempting to circumvent the Welsh Government.
Nid ydynt wedi mynd i'r gwellt; maent yn ffrwyth cydweithredu sylweddol iawn â'r sector preifat, y sector cyhoeddus, y trydydd sector, prifysgolion, ac yn y blaen, ym mhob rhan o Gymru, ac maent yn parhau i fod yn uchelgais Llywodraeth Cymru i gefnogi buddsoddiad rhanbarthol yng Nghymru drwy'r gronfa ffyniant gyffredin, ac mewn unrhyw ffordd arall yn wir. Rydym yn gweithio gyda rhanddeiliaid i ddeall, yn amlwg, yr hyn sy'n dirwedd newidiol yn San Steffan mewn perthynas â hyn. Yr hyn y byddwn yn ei ddweud wrth yr Aelod yw nad ydym wedi cael y trafodaethau agos y byddem wedi disgwyl eu cael ar y cam hwn, hyd yn oed mor hwyr â hyn yn y dydd fel petai, gyda'r adran berthnasol yn Whitehall. Credaf fod diffyg ymgysylltiad gweinidogol truenus wedi bod â ni ynghylch hynny. Yn ôl yr hyn a ddeallaf, bu oedi cyn treialu—yn y prosbectws ar gyfer y cynlluniau peilot—na fyddant yn digwydd nawr ym mis Ionawr, yn amlwg, ac rwy'n credu efallai na fyddant yn digwydd ym mis Chwefror hyd yn oed. Hoffwn ailadrodd bod y fframwaith yn darparu dull ar gyfer y dyfodol sydd â sylfaen eang o gefnogaeth yng Nghymru, a byddai o fudd i Lywodraeth y DU ymgysylltu â hi, oherwydd mae'n cynrychioli'r hyn y mae busnesau, llywodraeth leol, a chyrff cyhoeddus eraill ledled Cymru, fel y dywedais, eisiau ei weld fel dyfodol cyllid rhanbarthol yng Nghymru. Mae gennym gynllun. Mae'n gynllun yr ymgynghorwyd arno ac mae'n gynllun sydd wedi'i gyd-gynllunio a'i gyd-ddatblygu, a dyna'r fframwaith sy'n cynnig y ffordd orau i weithredu'r gronfa ffyniant gyffredin yn fy marn i, a dylid gwneud hynny mewn partneriaeth â ni, yn hytrach na cheisio mynd heibio i Lywodraeth Cymru.
Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr, Janet Finch-Saunders.
The Conservative spokesperson, Janet-Finch Saunders.
Diolch, Llywydd. To my delight, the UK Government has announced that seafood exporters across the UK will now receive Government funding of up to £23 million. That funding is to support businesses that have been most adversely affected by the coronavirus pandemic and the challenges of adjusting to new requirements for exporting. So, I hope, Counsel General, you will join with me in welcoming the action taken by the UK Government to support our Welsh fisheries. In fact, alongside money, the UK Government is, for example, providing clear guidance on the required IT forms, working closely with the individual businesses to help them get used to the new procedures required, and they are co-operating with French authorities and the EU Commission to ensure that minor administrative issues associated with export health certificates have not prevented goods from entering the market. Now, contrast this with the Welsh Government approach. The Minister, Ken Skates MS, wrote to me on 22 January, noting that the Welsh Government are continuing to monitor the difficult market situation for the Welsh seafood industry and what other options there might be for supporting the sector. So, will you advise, please, what steps you will be taking, through your capacity as the Minister for European transition, to provide support for the Welsh fisheries sector in addition to what the UK Government is already offering?
Diolch, Lywydd. Er mawr lawenydd i mi, mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi cyhoeddi y bydd allforwyr bwyd môr ledled y DU yn cael cyllid o hyd at £23 miliwn gan y Llywodraeth yn awr. Mae'r cyllid hwnnw ar gyfer cefnogi busnesau sydd wedi cael eu heffeithio fwyaf gan y pandemig coronafeirws a'r heriau o addasu i ofynion newydd ar gyfer allforio. Felly, Gwnsler Cyffredinol, rwy'n gobeithio y gwnewch chi ymuno â mi i groesawu'r camau a gymerwyd gan Lywodraeth y DU i gefnogi ein pysgodfeydd yng Nghymru. Yn wir, ochr yn ochr ag arian, mae Llywodraeth y DU, er enghraifft, yn darparu canllawiau clir ar y ffurflenni TG angenrheidiol, gan weithio'n agos gyda'r busnesau unigol i'w helpu i ddod i arfer â'r gweithdrefnau newydd sydd eu hangen, ac maent yn cydweithredu ag awdurdodau Ffrainc a Chomisiwn yr UE i sicrhau nad yw mân faterion gweinyddol sy'n gysylltiedig â thystysgrifau iechyd allforio wedi atal nwyddau rhag dod i mewn i'r farchnad. Nawr, cyferbynnwch hyn â dull Llywodraeth Cymru o weithredu. Ysgrifennodd y Gweinidog, Ken Skates AS, ataf ar 22 Ionawr, gan nodi bod Llywodraeth Cymru yn parhau i fonitro sefyllfa anodd y farchnad i ddiwydiant bwyd môr Cymru a pha opsiynau eraill a allai fod ar gyfer cefnogi'r sector. Felly, a wnewch chi ddweud, os gwelwch yn dda, pa gamau y byddwch yn eu cymryd, yn rhinwedd eich swydd fel y Gweinidog pontio Ewropeaidd, i ddarparu cymorth i sector pysgodfeydd Cymru ar ben yr hyn y mae Llywodraeth y DU eisoes yn ei gynnig?
Can I first welcome Janet Finch-Saunders to her new responsibilities? What I want to say at the start is that we obviously welcome the availability of this sum of money. It isn't a fund that has been co-designed, as it ought to have been, with the devolved Governments, and the detail on eligibility and roll-out remain, I think, at this point very vague, so we are working and hope to work with the UK Government to understand that better. What I should say, though, is that the challenge that the fisheries sector is under is entirely the responsibility of the UK Government in relation to the decisions it has taken as a matter of political choice in the negotiations with the European Union. We as a Government were fearful that this would come to pass, and hence our call for the UK Government to prioritise smooth access to markets, which they have failed to do. Many people prioritise their Ruritanian sense of sovereignty above the livelihoods of fishers and others, and those people will have to account to those sectors for having taken that view, and I include the Member in that. Fishers deal with products that are very perishable, and I suspect that the political reputations of those who have been complicit in the deal, which has undermined the well-being of the fishing sector, will find their own political positions perishable as well, in due course.
A gaf fi groesawu Janet Finch-Saunders yn gyntaf i'w chyfrifoldebau newydd? I ddechrau, hoffwn ddweud ein bod yn amlwg yn croesawu argaeledd y swm hwn o arian. Nid yw'n gronfa sydd wedi'i chyd-gynllunio, fel y dylai fod, gyda'r Llywodraethau datganoledig, ac mae'r manylion ynglŷn â chymhwysedd a chyflwyno yn parhau, rwy'n credu, i fod yn amwys iawn ar hyn o bryd, felly rydym yn gweithio ac yn gobeithio gweithio gyda Llywodraeth y DU i ddeall hynny'n well. Yr hyn y dylwn ei ddweud, serch hynny, yw mai cyfrifoldeb Llywodraeth y DU yn llwyr yw'r her sy'n wynebu'r sector pysgodfeydd mewn perthynas â'r penderfyniadau y mae wedi'u gwneud fel mater o ddewis gwleidyddol yn y negodiadau gyda'r Undeb Ewropeaidd. Roeddem ni fel Llywodraeth yn ofni y byddai hyn yn digwydd, a dyna pam y gwnaethom alw ar Lywodraeth y DU i flaenoriaethu mynediad llyfn at farchnadoedd, ac maent wedi methu gwneud hynny. Mae llawer o bobl yn rhoi blaenoriaeth uwch i'w hymdeimlad Rwritanaidd o sofraniaeth nag i fywoliaeth pysgotwyr ac eraill, a bydd y bobl hynny'n atebol i'r sectorau dan sylw am fod wedi mabwysiadu'r fath safbwynt, ac rwy'n cynnwys yr Aelod yn hynny. Mae pysgotwyr yn trin cynhyrchion sy'n ddarfodus iawn, ac rwy'n tybio y bydd enw da gwleidyddol y rhai a fu'n gefnogol i'r cytundeb sydd wedi tanseilio llesiant y sector pysgota, yn gweld bod eu statws gwleidyddol hwy eu hunain yn ddarfodus hefyd maes o law.
Thank you. One example of action you could take is to encourage the Welsh Government to review the exclusion of crew members employed on a share-of-catch basis from the ERF sector-specific grant. Now, it will come of no surprise to you that I am again pleased that the Prime Minister's trade deal does allow UK goods and components to be sold without tariffs and without quotas in the EU market. However, I do acknowledge that the Farmers Union of Wales have raised concerns about the impact of trade friction on the agriculture sector. Now, during the Joint Ministerial Committee (EU Negotiations) on the trade and co-operation agreement on Tuesday 29 December, you called for the UK Government to put in place new support measures for the economy to help businesses through the transition. And the UK Government is now taking that action. I'm aware that farming Minister Victoria Prentis has been undertaking discussions with the French, the Irish and the Dutch, so will you clarify what further steps you will take to assist the agriculture sector with mitigating trade friction?
Diolch. Un enghraifft o rywbeth y gallech ei weithredu yw annog Llywodraeth Cymru i adolygu'r ffaith bod aelodau o griwiau a gyflogir ar sail cyfran o'r ddalfa yn cael eu heithrio o grant sector-benodol y gronfa cadernid economaidd. Nawr, ni fydd yn syndod i chi fy mod i'n falch unwaith eto fod cytundeb masnach Prif Weinidog y DU yn caniatáu i nwyddau a chydrannau'r DU gael eu gwerthu heb dariffau a heb gwotâu ym marchnad yr UE. Fodd bynnag, rwy'n cydnabod bod Undeb Amaethwyr Cymru wedi mynegi pryderon am effaith gwrthdaro masnach ar y sector amaethyddol. Nawr, yn ystod y Cyd-bwyllgor Gweinidogion (Negodiadau'r UE) ar y cytundeb masnach a chydweithredu ddydd Mawrth 29 Rhagfyr, galwasoch ar Lywodraeth y DU i roi mesurau cymorth newydd ar waith ar gyfer yr economi i helpu busnesau drwy'r cyfnod pontio. Ac mae Llywodraeth y DU bellach yn cymryd y camau hynny. Rwy'n ymwybodol fod y Gweinidog ffermio, Victoria Prentis, wedi bod yn cynnal trafodaethau gyda'r Ffrancwyr, y Gwyddelod a'r Iseldirwyr, felly a wnewch chi egluro pa gamau pellach y byddwch yn eu cymryd i gynorthwyo'r sector amaethyddol gyda lleddfu gwrthdaro masnach?
Well, we continue to work with the agriculture sector and, indeed, every other to understand the new barriers to trade that the UK Government's political choices have imposed upon them. I think it's important for the Member, in acknowledging the existence of a zero-tariff, zero-quota deal, to be quite clear sighted about the fact that the complexity in the trading relationship between our exporters and the European Union is vastly greater than it was on 31 December, and that will impose significant costs that those businesses are now wrestling with. We will do all that we can to support businesses in Wales in all sectors to continue exporting and to understand the new red tape that the Boris Johnson agreement has imposed upon them. But let us be clear that the root cause of that is the deal, and no amount of UK Government action or Welsh Government action can change, unfortunately, the fundamentals of that new relationship, which impose new barriers.
Wel, rydym yn parhau i weithio gyda'r sector amaethyddol, a chyda phob sector arall yn wir, i ddeall y rhwystrau newydd i fasnachu y mae dewisiadau gwleidyddol Llywodraeth y DU wedi'u gorfodi arnynt. Wrth gydnabod bodolaeth cytundeb heb dariffau a heb gwotâu, rwy'n credu ei bod hi'n bwysig i'r Aelod fod yn eithaf clir ynglŷn â'r ffaith bod cymhlethdod y berthynas fasnachu rhwng ein hallforwyr a'r Undeb Ewropeaidd yn llawer mwy na'r hyn ydoedd ar 31 Rhagfyr, a bydd yn gosod y costau sylweddol y mae'r busnesau hynny'n ymgodymu â hwy erbyn hyn. Byddwn yn gwneud popeth yn ein gallu i gefnogi busnesau ym mhob sector yng Nghymru i barhau i allforio ac i ddeall y fiwrocratiaeth newydd y mae cytundeb Boris Johnson wedi'i gorfodi arnynt. Ond gadewch inni fod yn glir mai'r cytundeb sydd wrth wraidd hynny, ac yn anffodus, ni all unrhyw gamau gweithredu gan Lywodraeth y DU na Llywodraeth Cymru newid hanfodion y berthynas newydd honno, sy'n gosod rhwystrau newydd.
Thank you, but again, my questions, really, are trying to ascertain what you are actually doing, rather than saying, 'Oh, this is for the UK Government' or, 'It's for those who wanted Brexit'. I'm trying to establish what you are doing in your capacity. Now, I appreciate that the Welsh Government has urged all hauliers and freight companies that transport goods from Welsh ports to Ireland to familiarise themselves with the process. In fact, there is some hope that the pressure of paperwork will ease with practice and familiarity, and, hopefully, in the short term.
Now, with regard to sailings from Wales to the EU, you will be aware of concerns that there could be a shift away from Holyhead, particularly in terms of weekend and off-peak traffic. Now, Wales office Minister, David T.C. Davies, has highlighted that there are issues that could be some teething problems, and I am very aware that our Secretary of State for Wales, Simon Hart MP, is keeping a very wary eye on this matter. So, I hope that this situation is only a temporary dip, especially as the fact remains that Welsh ports are the quickest and most efficient route between Ireland and the UK and then onward to the EU. So, what steps, please, will you commit to taking to promote the benefit to EU businesses of continuing to use our Welsh ports? You have a role to play in this, Counsel General, and I'm asking you not only to step up to the plate, but actually to tell the Senedd exactly what you are doing. Diolch.
Diolch, ond eto, mae fy nghwestiynau'n ceisio canfod beth rydych yn ei wneud mewn gwirionedd, yn hytrach na dweud, 'O, mater i Lywodraeth y DU yw hwn' neu, 'Mater i'r rhai a oedd eisiau Brexit yw hwn'. Rwy'n ceisio sefydlu'r hyn rydych chi'n ei wneud yn rhinwedd eich swydd. Nawr, rwy'n sylweddoli bod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi annog yr holl gludwyr a chwmnïau cludo llwythi sy'n cludo nwyddau o borthladdoedd Cymru i Iwerddon i ymgyfarwyddo â'r broses. Yn wir, mae rhywfaint o obaith y bydd pwysau gwaith papur yn lleddfu drwy ymarfer ac ymgyfarwyddo, a hynny, gobeithio, yn y tymor byr.
Nawr, o ran hwylio o Gymru i'r UE, fe fyddwch yn ymwybodol o bryderon y gallai fod pethau'n symud o Gaergybi, yn enwedig o ran traffig penwythnos ac allfrig. Nawr, mae Gweinidog swyddfa Cymru, David T.C. Davies, wedi tynnu sylw at y ffaith bod rhai problemau cychwynnol, ac rwy'n ymwybodol iawn fod Ysgrifennydd Gwladol Cymru, Simon Hart AS, yn cadw llygad barcud ar y mater hwn. Felly, rwy'n gobeithio mai dim ond gostyngiad dros dro yw hwn, yn enwedig gan mai porthladdoedd Cymru yw'r llwybrau cyflymaf a mwyaf effeithlon o hyd rhwng Iwerddon a'r DU ac yna ymlaen i'r UE. Felly, pa gamau, os gwelwch yn dda, y byddwch yn ymrwymo i'w cymryd i hyrwyddo'r budd o barhau i ddefnyddio ein porthladdoedd yng Nghymru i fusnesau'r UE? Mae gennych rôl i'w chwarae yn hyn, Gwnsler Cyffredinol, ac rwy'n gofyn i chi nid yn unig i wneud yr hyn sydd ei angen, ond dweud wrth y Senedd hefyd beth yn union rydych chi'n ei wneud. Diolch.
I'd be glad to take up Janet Finch-Saunders's invitation, and, forgive me, I was assuming that she was aware of the contents of the end of transition action plan, which stipulates in quite close detail everything that we're doing. But, anyway, I'll refer her to the contents of that for detail.
On the specific point that she makes, I myself found it rather offensive to describe these as 'teething troubles', actually; these are consequences of a freely negotiated agreement that were foreseeable and, indeed, foreseen. So, it is incumbent on governments to support port operators and freight companies and hauliers as well. We are doing that, as a Welsh Government. We're working with the UK Government and with the Irish Government, in fact. We've managed to ensure that the turnarounds at Holyhead, for example, have reduced from around 20 per cent of vehicles to something in the order of 5, 6 or 7 per cent—it varies, obviously. We've participated and led on detailed webinars with hauliers and freight companies, with many people coming on board to understand the new barriers that they face. We work closely with the ports, closely with HMRC and closely with the Irish Government in relation to this. What I want to see and what the Welsh Government wants to see is the land bridge protected. It is the fastest route, in ordinary circumstances, and it's certainly more effective and efficient, and we want to make sure that hauliers recognise that and support it. What we do not accept is that these can be dismissed as teething troubles, as UK Government Ministers have done. We think it requires a proactive approach of working together to solve the problem and explain to hauliers, and that is a much better approach than simply brushing them off as teething problems.
Byddwn yn falch o dderbyn gwahoddiad Janet Finch-Saunders, a maddeuwch imi, roeddwn yn tybio ei bod yn ymwybodol o gynnwys cynllun gweithredu diwedd y cyfnod pontio, sy'n nodi popeth rydym yn ei wneud yn eithaf manwl. Ond beth bynnag, fe'i cyfeiriaf at gynnwys hwnnw am fanylion.
O ran y pwynt penodol y mae'n ei wneud, roeddwn yn ystyried ei disgrifiad o'r rhain fel 'trafferthion cychwynnol' braidd yn sarhaus mewn gwirionedd; canlyniadau cytundeb a negodwyd yn rhydd yw'r rhain, canlyniadau a oedd yn bosibl eu rhagweld ac yn wir, fe gawsant eu rhagweld. Felly, mae'n ddyletswydd ar lywodraethau i gefnogi gweithredwyr porthladdoedd a chludwyr a chwmnïau cludo llwythi hefyd. Rydym yn gwneud hynny, fel Llywodraeth Cymru. Rydym yn gweithio gyda Llywodraeth y DU a chyda Llywodraeth Iwerddon, mewn gwirionedd. Rydym wedi llwyddo i sicrhau bod y gyfradd wrthod yng Nghaergybi, er enghraifft, wedi gostwng o tua 20 y cant o gerbydau i tua 5, 6 neu 7 y cant—mae'n amrywio, yn amlwg. Rydym wedi cymryd rhan ac wedi arwain gweminarau manwl gyda chludwyr a chwmnïau cludo llwythi, gyda llawer o bobl yn ymuno i ddeall y rhwystrau newydd y maent yn eu hwynebu. Rydym yn gweithio'n agos gyda'r porthladdoedd, Cyllid a Thollau Ei Mawrhydi a Llywodraeth Iwerddon mewn perthynas â hyn. Rwyf fi a Llywodraeth Cymru eisiau sicrhau bod y bont dir yn cael ei diogelu. Dyma'r llwybr cyflymaf, mewn amgylchiadau cyffredin, ac mae'n sicr yn fwy effeithiol ac effeithlon, ac rydym eisiau sicrhau bod cludwyr yn cydnabod hynny ac yn ei gefnogi. Nid ydym yn derbyn y syniad y gellir diystyru'r rhain fel trafferthion cychwynnol, fel y mae Gweinidogion Llywodraeth y DU wedi'i wneud. Credwn fod angen dull rhagweithiol o gydweithio i ddatrys y broblem ac egluro'r sefyllfa i gludwyr, ac mae hwnnw'n ddull llawer gwell na'u diystyru fel trafferthion cychwynnol.
[Inaudible.]—new—
[Anghlywadwy.]—newydd—
If you can start again, David; I'm sorry, the microphone wasn't unmuted in time.
Os gallwch ddechrau eto, David; mae'n ddrwg gennyf, nid oedd y meicroffon wedi cael ei agor mewn pryd.
I was a bit quick off the mark.
Roeddwn braidd yn gyflym.
3. Pa fesurau sydd ar waith i helpu allforwyr Cymru i bontio i'r telerau masnach newydd gyda marchnad sengl yr Undeb Ewropeaidd? OQ56182
3. What measures are in place to help Welsh exporters transition to the new terms of trade with the European Union's single market? OQ56182
We recently published a new export action plan, which sets out the support available to Welsh exporters to help them understand and navigate the new barriers to exporting to the EU as a result of the decision to leave the customs union and the deal negotiated by the UK Government.
Yn ddiweddar, cyhoeddwyd cynllun gweithredu newydd gennym ar gyfer allforio, sy'n nodi'r cymorth sydd ar gael i allforwyr Cymru i'w helpu i ddeall a llywio'r rhwystrau newydd i allforio i'r UE o ganlyniad i'r penderfyniad i adael yr undeb tollau a'r cytundeb a negodwyd gan Lywodraeth y DU.
Thank you for that answer. I'm particularly concerned about small and medium-sized enterprises that export, or have done, into the single market in the past. These SMEs are often sector leaders, they're highly innovative—some of our best businesses—and also have great potential for growth. But now, many of them, to get through the thicket of certification and other bureaucracy, which is going to run into billions of pounds, I'm told, from the UK economy, need, for instance, to employ export brokers. What sort of help are you going to give so that they can at least contract with people who are reputable and operate at reasonably low cost?
Diolch ichi am yr ateb hwnnw. Rwy'n pryderu'n benodol am fusnesau bach a chanolig sy'n allforio i'r farchnad sengl neu sydd wedi gwneud hynny yn y gorffennol. Mae'r busnesau bach a chanolig hyn yn aml yn arweinwyr sector, maent yn arloesol iawn—rhai o'n busnesau gorau—ac mae ganddynt botensial mawr ar gyfer twf hefyd. Ond nawr, er mwyn sicrhau eu bod yn mynd drwy ddrysni tystysgrifau a biwrocratiaeth arall, sy'n mynd i fod yn filiynau o bunnoedd allan o economi'r DU yn ôl yr hyn a ddywedir wrthyf, mae llawer ohonynt angen cyflogi broceriaid allforio er enghraifft. Pa fath o gymorth rydych chi'n mynd i'w roi fel y gallant o leiaf gontractio gyda phobl sydd ag enw da ac sy'n gweithredu am gost weddol isel?
Well, I thank David Melding for that question that highlights a very important issue. He will be aware, of course, of the equivalent to the trusted trader schemes that have been introduced as part of the new arrangements. However, generally speaking, those tend to be larger companies rather than many of the smaller and medium-sized companies that his question is concerned about and that, obviously, represent a large percentage of the Welsh economy.
The export action plan highlights a few practical things that we are doing to tackle the challenge that his question highlights. The economy Minister recently wrote an open letter to businesses setting out the support and guidance that we have available, including some that is available through the EU transition portal. There is, in addition to that, a new online export hub, which provides very practical advice around the kind of customs procedures, the paperwork and the finding of new clients that he refers to in his question.
Alongside that, we've developed a series of webinars, which aim to walk exporters through the new rules of origin requirements, export certification requirements and so on. In addition to that, the economy Minister has expanded capacity through the recruitment of international trade advisers, who are able to work directly with businesses referred on from Business Wales. They provide very bespoke support and advice to particular businesses about how they can navigate some of these challenges in their particular sectors, which offers a very practical and hands-on function to support them.
Wel, diolch i David Melding am y cwestiwn hwnnw sy'n tynnu sylw at fater pwysig iawn. Fe fydd yn ymwybodol, wrth gwrs, o'r hyn sy'n cyfateb i'r cynlluniau masnachwyr dibynadwy sydd wedi'u cyflwyno fel rhan o'r trefniadau newydd. Fodd bynnag, yn gyffredinol, mae'r rheini'n tueddu i fod yn gwmnïau mwy yn hytrach na llawer o'r cwmnïau llai a chanolig eu maint y mae ei gwestiwn yn cyfeirio atynt ac mae rheini, yn amlwg, yn cynrychioli canran fawr o economi Cymru.
Mae'r cynllun gweithredu ar allforio yn tynnu sylw at ychydig o bethau ymarferol rydym yn eu gwneud i fynd i'r afael â'r her y mae ei gwestiwn yn tynnu sylw ati. Yn ddiweddar, ysgrifennodd Gweinidog yr economi lythyr agored at fusnesau yn nodi'r cymorth a'r canllawiau sydd ar gael gennym, gan gynnwys rhai sydd ar gael drwy borth pontio'r UE. Yn ogystal â hynny, ceir hwb allforio newydd ar-lein, sy'n rhoi cyngor ymarferol iawn ar y math o weithdrefnau tollau, y gwaith papur a'r gwaith o ganfod cleientiaid newydd y mae'n eu crybwyll yn ei gwestiwn.
Ochr yn ochr â hynny, rydym wedi datblygu cyfres o weminarau ar gyfer egluro'r gofynion rheolau tarddiad newydd, a gofynion tystysgrifau allforio ac yn y blaen, i allforwyr. Yn ogystal â hynny, mae Gweinidog yr economi wedi ehangu capasiti drwy recriwtio cynghorwyr masnach rhyngwladol, sy'n gallu gweithio'n uniongyrchol gyda busnesau a atgyfeirir gan Busnes Cymru. Maent yn rhoi cymorth a chyngor pwrpasol iawn i fusnesau penodol ynglŷn â sut y gallant lywio'u ffordd drwy rai o'r heriau hyn yn eu sectorau penodol, sy'n ffordd ymarferol iawn o'u cefnogi.
Minister, I've received an e-mail from the owner of a substantial transport company in my constituency, and he writes to me,
'We are currently in a crisis in relation to exports to Ireland. We were under the impression that once the Christmas Eve deal was finalised, procedures would be immediately put in place to allow exports to Ireland, but we're still unable to export to Northern Ireland, which we believe is still part of Great Britain. Our company specialises in exporting essential medical equipment to Dublin and various areas of Belfast—equipment, we would add, which is tax-paid, and would allow patients to leave hospital, freeing up beds for those in desperate need at this current time. The bureaucracy of the new system is flawed, overcomplicated and inadequate, and no-one seems to want to accept responsibility for what measures need to be put in place to enable the exports to continue as they have previously.'
Minister, who is responsible for this economic shambles?
Weinidog, rwyf wedi derbyn e-bost gan berchennog cwmni trafnidiaeth sylweddol yn fy etholaeth, ac mae'n dweud,
Rydym mewn argyfwng ar hyn o bryd mewn perthynas ag allforion i Iwerddon. Roeddem o dan yr argraff, pan fyddai cytundeb Noswyl Nadolig wedi'i gwblhau, y byddai gweithdrefnau'n cael eu rhoi ar waith ar unwaith i ganiatáu allforion i Iwerddon, ond nid ydym yn gallu allforio i Ogledd Iwerddon o hyd, y credwn ei fod yn dal i fod yn rhan o Brydain. Mae ein cwmni'n arbenigo mewn allforio offer meddygol hanfodol i Ddulyn a gwahanol ardaloedd o Belfast—offer y mae treth wedi'i dalu arno, carwn ychwanegu, ac a fyddai'n caniatáu i gleifion adael yr ysbyty, gan ryddhau gwelyau i'r rhai sydd eu hangen yn daer ar hyn o bryd. Mae biwrocratiaeth y system newydd yn ddiffygiol, yn rhy gymhleth ac yn annigonol, ac nid yw'n ymddangos bod neb eisiau derbyn cyfrifoldeb am ba fesurau y mae angen eu rhoi ar waith i alluogi'r allforion i barhau fel o'r blaen.
Weinidog, pwy sy'n gyfrifol am y llanast economaidd hwn?
Well, the responsibility for the new obstacles to export and freight through our ports is the direct consequence of the UK Government's political priorities in the trade and co-operation agreement with the European Union. There obviously were new obstacles to trade introduced on 1 January. What I would say though is that we've put in place, as a Government, plans to handle the transport and traffic impact of that on our ports, and indeed are working with the UK Government and Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs and the Irish Government to ensure that there are as smooth as possible arrangements in place for freight passing through Holyhead and through our ports in the south-west in particular. And that is absolutely having an effect in making that journey smoother. But the point that he makes in his question is that these are, essentially, matters of political choice. They are new barriers to trade that, obviously, we very much regret having seen imposed on Welsh hauliers.
Wel, mae'r cyfrifoldeb am y rhwystrau newydd i allforio a chludo llwythi drwy ein porthladdoedd yn ganlyniad uniongyrchol i flaenoriaethau gwleidyddol Llywodraeth y DU yn y cytundeb masnach a chydweithredu gyda'r Undeb Ewropeaidd. Mae'n amlwg fod rhwystrau newydd i fasnachu wedi'u cyflwyno ar 1 Ionawr. Yr hyn y byddwn yn ei ddweud serch hynny yw ein bod wedi rhoi cynlluniau ar waith fel Llywodraeth i ymdrin ag effaith hynny ar drafnidiaeth a thraffig ein porthladdoedd, ac yn wir rydym yn gweithio gyda Llywodraeth y DU a Chyllid a Thollau Ei Mawrhydi a Llywodraeth Iwerddon i sicrhau bod trefniadau mor llyfn â phosibl ar waith ar gyfer cludo llwythi drwy Gaergybi a thrwy ein porthladdoedd yn y de-orllewin yn arbennig. Ac mae hynny'n sicr yn cael effaith ar wneud y daith honno'n fwy llyfn. Ond y pwynt y mae'n ei wneud yn ei gwestiwn yw bod y rhain, yn y bôn, yn faterion o ddewis gwleidyddol. Maent yn rhwystrau newydd i fasnach ac rydym yn amlwg yn gresynu'n fawr eu bod yn cael eu gorfodi ar gludwyr Cymru.
4. Pa ddadansoddiad mae'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol wedi ei wneud o'r cyfyngiadau all Deddf Marchnad Fewnol y Deyrnas Unedig 2020 eu rhoi ar allu'r Senedd i ddeddfu nawr fod y cyfnod pontio wedi dod i ben? OQ56192
4. What analysis has the Counsel General made of the restrictions the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 places on the Senedd's ability to legislate now that the transition period has come to an end? OQ56192
Mae'n glir bod y Ddeddf yn creu ansicrwydd yn nhermau gallu'r Senedd i ddeddfu. Felly, yn sgil hynny, rwyf wedi dechrau achos llys yn y llys gweinyddol yma yng Nghaerdydd am gydsyniad y llys i edrych ar effaith y ddeddfwriaeth ar ein Senedd ni.
It's clear that the Act creates uncertainty in terms of the Senedd's ability to legislate. Therefore, I have issued formal proceedings in the administrative court here in Cardiff seeking permission for judicial review in terms of its impact on our Senedd.
Dwi'n ddiolchgar i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol am yr ateb yna. Mae'n amlwg yn annerbyniol ein bod, ar hyn o bryd, wedi colli'r pŵer i wahardd gwerthiant plastigau un-defnydd a deddfu yn y maes, felly rwy'n gobeithio bydd y Cwnsler Cyffredinol yn llwyddiannus yn yr achos llys.
Mae gen i ddiddordeb yn y ffaith bod y Cwnsler wedi dweud mewn araith allanol diweddar ynglŷn â sail yr achos llys, y byddai'r sail i wrthod yr ymgais i gipio'n pwerau yn anatebol, hyd yn oed petai Llywodraeth San Steffan o ddifrif ynghylch gwarchod safonau amgylcheddol a hawliau gweithwyr. Dywedoch chi hefyd eich bod chi o blaid cynyddu pwerau'r Senedd. Mae hon yn ddadl o blaid yr egwyddor y dylai'r pwerau y mae'r Senedd hon eu hangen orwedd yma, doed a ddelo, er mwyn rheoleiddio mewn ffordd sy'n cyd-fynd â dymuniadau dinasyddion Cymru. A yw hyn yn golygu eich bod chi bellach o blaid setliad cyfansoddiadol conffederal, gyda Senedd Cymru yn penderfynu pa bwerau i'w cadw a pha rai i'w rhannu gyda gweddill y Deyrnas Gyfunol?
I'm grateful to the Counsel General for that response. It's clearly unacceptable that we have now lost the power to ban the sale of single-use plastics and to legislate in this area, so I do hope that the Counsel General is successful in the court proceedings.
I'm interested in the fact that the Counsel General said in an external address recently, on the basis of the proceedings, that the basis to take our powers would be unaccountable, even if the Westminster Government were serious about safeguarding environmental standards and workers' rights. You also said that you were in favour of increasing the powers of this Senedd. Now, this is an argument in favour of the principle that the powers that this Senedd needs should lie here, come what may, so that we can regulate in a way that accords with the aspirations of the people of Wales. Does this mean that you are now in favour of a confederal constitutional settlement, with the Welsh Parliament deciding which powers to retain and which to share with the rest of the UK?
Wel, dwi wedi bod yn glir am hyn mewn amryw o gyd-destunau, fy mod i'n credu y dylem ni gael cymaint o bwerau ag y mae pobl Cymru eisiau eu cael yng Nghymru o dan reolaeth y Senedd ac o dan reolaeth y Llywodraeth, o ran Gweinidogion ac ati, yma yng Nghymru. Felly, mae hynny yn sicr yn egwyddor, buaswn i'n dweud, sydd ddim yn un dadleuol iawn bellach. Beth rŷn ni wedi'i weld yn sgil ymgais y Llywodraeth yn San Steffan yn y Ddeddf ddiweddar hon yw bod ein setliad cyfansoddiadol ni o dan bwysau penodol, oherwydd mae gennym ni Lywodraeth Geidwadol yn San Steffan sydd yn sicr yn ceisio tanseilio'r setliad datganoli, ac mae'n rhaid i ni i gyd sydd yn gefnogol i hynny, ac yn bleidiol i weld mwy o bwerau yn dod yma i Gymru, ymateb mewn ffordd addas i hynny.
Well, I've been clear on this in many contexts, that I believe that we should have as many powers as the people of Wales aspire to have in Wales under the control of this Parliament and this Government, in terms of ministerial responsibilities, here in Wales. So, that's certainly a principle, I would say, that is non-contentious these days. What we have seen after the efforts of the Westminster Government in this recent legislation is that our constitutional settlement is placed under specific pressures, because we have a Conservative Government in Westminster who are certainly trying to undermine the devolution settlement, and all of us who are supportive of it, and want to see more powers coming to Wales, must respond appropriately to that.
Counsel General, I see questions like this, and I hear the answers, and I understand completely why this place is called 'a bubble'. We are still in the middle of a pandemic, people have lost their lives and livelihoods, they've lost hope, and we appear in this Senedd to be navel gazing. That being said, I'd be grateful to know what is the Welsh Government prevented from doing by this Act that it could do unfettered previously? And what difference does it actually make to our constituents? Thank you.
Gwnsler Cyffredinol, rwy'n gweld cwestiynau fel hyn, ac rwy'n clywed yr atebion, a deallaf yn iawn pam y gelwir y lle hwn yn 'swigen'. Rydym yn dal i fod ynghanol pandemig, mae pobl wedi colli eu bywydau a'u bywoliaeth, maent wedi colli gobaith, ac mae'n ymddangos ein bod yn bogailsyllu yn y Senedd hon. Wedi dweud hynny, hoffwn wybod beth y mae'r Ddeddf hon yn rhwystro Llywodraeth Cymru rhag ei wneud y gallai ei wneud yn ddilyffethair o'r blaen? A pha wahaniaeth y mae'n ei wneud mewn gwirionedd i'n hetholwyr? Diolch.
Well, she may feel that she works and lives in a bubble; I certainly don't feel that. The point about the Act is it makes a very real difference to people's weekly shop. So, if you're interested in making sure that food is of the standard that Welsh producers and Welsh consumers are accustomed to, this Act poses a threat to that. If you're interested in making sure that we don't pollute our environment with excessive use of plastics, this Act represents a threat to that. If you want to make sure that there are proper regulations in relation to service providers in Wales, this Act is a threat to that. These are not, as it where, simply constitutional matters; they affect the daily lives of all our constituents, and I think that is why it is of such significance that people should be aware of what this Act contains, and I would ask her to help us extend some of that outside the bubble that she describes.
Wel, efallai ei bod hi'n teimlo ei bod yn gweithio ac yn byw mewn swigen; yn sicr, nid wyf fi'n teimlo hynny. Y pwynt am y Ddeddf yw ei bod yn gwneud gwahaniaeth gwirioneddol i restr siopa wythnosol pobl. Felly, os oes gennych ddiddordeb mewn sicrhau bod bwyd o'r safon y mae cynhyrchwyr Cymru a defnyddwyr Cymru yn gyfarwydd â hi, mae'r Ddeddf hon yn fygythiad i hynny. Os oes gennych ddiddordeb mewn sicrhau nad ydym yn llygru ein hamgylchedd gyda defnydd gormodol o blastigau, mae'r Ddeddf hon yn fygythiad i hynny. Os ydych eisiau sicrhau bod rheoliadau priodol ar waith mewn perthynas â darparwyr gwasanaethau yng Nghymru, mae'r Ddeddf hon yn fygythiad i hynny. Nid materion cyfansoddiadol yn unig yw'r rhain; maent yn effeithio ar fywydau bob dydd ein hetholwyr ni i gyd, a dyna pam ei bod yn hollbwysig fod pobl yn ymwybodol o'r hyn y mae'r Ddeddf hon yn ei gynnwys, a gofynnaf iddi ein helpu i ymestyn rhywfaint o hynny y tu hwnt i'r swigen y mae'n ei disgrifio.
5. Pa drafodaethau y mae'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol wedi'u cael gyda Gweinidog yr Economi, Trafnidiaeth a Gogledd Cymru ynghylch effaith ehangu llwybrau llongau uniongyrchol o Iwerddon i'r UE ar economi Cymru? OQ56168
5. What discussions has the Counsel General had with the Minister for the Economy, Transport and North Wales regarding the impact of the expansion of direct shipping routes from Ireland to the EU on the Welsh economy? OQ56168
Well, until December, Welsh ports were the easiest route for traffic between Ireland and mainland Europe. The new regulatory barriers resulting from the UK Government's deal with the European Union have changed that, and we are pressing the UK Government to improve transit procedures to restore the competitive advantage of Welsh ports.
Wel, tan fis Rhagfyr, porthladdoedd Cymru oedd y llwybr hawsaf ar gyfer traffig rhwng Iwerddon a thir mawr Ewrop. Mae'r rhwystrau rheoleiddiol newydd sy'n deillio o gytundeb Llywodraeth y DU â'r Undeb Ewropeaidd wedi newid hynny, ac rydym yn pwyso ar Lywodraeth y DU i wella gweithdrefnau tramwy er mwyn adfer mantais gystadleuol porthladdoedd Cymru.
I welcome, genuinely, that constructive engagement by the Minister with UK counterparts, but, you know, I've got to call a spade a spade here. Minister, those people who said that we would have, after EU withdrawal, frictionless trade that would allow these land routes across the UK to continue were either too daft to realise what they were saying to the public in Wales, and across Britain, or they were outright telling porky pies. And, in fact, the UK bureaucracy that we currently have is exactly what Boris Johnson railed against previously, when he pointed his arrows at the European Union. So, I wonder, Minister, I see commercial operators out of Ireland now espousing the benefits of long-term diversion, away from the land link across the UK, and by going direct from Ireland to the EU. Will he push UK Ministers to redress the damage that they have done and to make sure that this is as temporary as possible and that they get this trade going back through our ports in Wales?
Mewn gwirionedd, rwy'n croesawu'r ymgysylltiad adeiladol rhwng y Gweinidog â chymheiriaid yn y DU, ond wyddoch chi, mae'n rhaid i mi siarad yn ddi-flewyn ar dafod yma. Weinidog, roedd y bobl a oedd yn dweud y byddai gennym fasnach ddirwystr ar ôl ymadael â'r UE a fyddai'n caniatáu i'r llwybrau tir hyn ledled y DU barhau naill ai'n rhy wirion i sylweddoli'r hyn roeddent yn ei ddweud wrth y cyhoedd yng Nghymru, ac ar draws Prydain, neu roeddent yn dweud celwyddau noeth. Ac mewn gwirionedd, mae'r fiwrocratiaeth sydd gennym yn y DU ar hyn o bryd yn union yr un fath â'r hyn y cwynai Boris Johnson amdano yn y gorffennol, pan oedd yn lladd ar yr Undeb Ewropeaidd. Felly, Weinidog, rwy'n gweld gweithredwyr masnachol o Iwerddon nawr yn arddel manteision dargyfeirio hirdymor, i ffwrdd o'r cyswllt tir ar draws y DU, a thrwy fynd yn uniongyrchol o Iwerddon i'r UE. A wnaiff bwyso ar Weinidogion y DU i unioni'r niwed y maent wedi'i wneud a sicrhau mai dros dro yn unig fydd hyn a'u bod yn cael y fasnach hon yn ôl drwy ein porthladdoedd yng Nghymru cyn gynted â phosibl?
Well, that is a top priority for us as a Government. These barriers, if you like, to trade and to transit weren't just foreseeable, they were foreseen. Now, what we want to make sure is that the speed and convenience of routes through Wales will start to attract hauliers back as soon as possible, and we are certainly pressing the UK Government, in the way that he suggests, to do everything possible to help traders navigate this new border and then to limit the economic impact that it's having. And the Minister for the economy, as you will have heard in earlier exchanges in the Chamber today, has written to the Secretary of State for Transport yesterday to highlight our concerns most recently. Obviously, we're particularly worried about the fact that those routes are costlier and take longer, and that tells us, of course, that the land bridge remains the best option, effectively. What we want to do is make sure that we are working with other Governments to persuade the hauliers of that, and that involves UK Government doing everything it can to minimise the practical implications of those checks and so on at the border.
Wel, mae honno'n brif flaenoriaeth i ni fel Llywodraeth. Nid yn unig fod y rhwystrau hyn, os hoffech, i fasnachu a thramwy yn bethau y gellid eu rhagweld, fe gawsant eu rhagweld. Nawr, yr hyn rydym eisiau ei sicrhau yw y bydd cyflymder a chyfleustra llwybrau drwy Gymru yn dechrau denu cludwyr yn ôl cyn gynted â phosibl, ac rydym yn sicr yn pwyso ar Lywodraeth y DU, yn y ffordd y mae'n awgrymu, i wneud popeth posibl i helpu masnachwyr i lywio'r ffin newydd hon ac yna i gyfyngu ar yr effaith economaidd y mae'n ei chael. Ac mae Gweinidog yr economi, fel y byddwch wedi'i glywed mewn trafodaethau cynharach yn y Siambr heddiw, wedi ysgrifennu at yr Ysgrifennydd Gwladol dros Drafnidiaeth ddoe i dynnu sylw at ein pryderon mwyaf diweddar. Yn amlwg, rydym yn poeni'n arbennig am y ffaith bod y llwybrau hynny'n gostus ac yn cymryd mwy o amser, ac mae hynny'n dweud wrthym, wrth gwrs, mai'r bont dir yw'r opsiwn gorau o hyd, i bob pwrpas. Yr hyn rydym eisiau ei wneud yw sicrhau ein bod yn gweithio gyda Llywodraethau eraill i berswadio'r cludwyr ynglŷn â hynny, ac mae'n golygu bod angen i Lywodraeth y DU wneud popeth yn ei gallu i leihau goblygiadau ymarferol yr archwiliadau ac yn y blaen ar y ffin.
Those whose jobs depend on the port of Holyhead will pay the price if changing trading patterns leads to a loss of trade permanently, shifting to direct passage. Whilst December stockpiling may be a part of the reasons for what's happened, the pandemic also, the elephant on that near-empty vehicle deck is the huge increase in trade on those direct routes. I think trade through Rosslare is up some 500 per cent. And, yes, it's longer, but there's no bureaucracy going that way, and whilst the Holyhead route has traditionally been cheaper as well as being more convenient, it doesn't take a genius to work out what a big increase in direct traffic is likely to mean for prices on those direct routes either. Now, I'm grateful for being copied into that letter that's been mentioned, from the economy Minister to UK Government, calling for support, both financial and otherwise, to deal with those significant new non-tariff barriers. But will the Minister update us on how Welsh Government can assist further now, including through establishing the kind of long-term border infrastructure we need to help trade flow freely and which UK Government have failed to deliver?
Bydd y rhai y mae eu swyddi'n dibynnu ar borthladd Caergybi yn talu'r pris os bydd patrymau masnachu newidiol yn arwain at golli masnach yn barhaol, gan newid i lwybr uniongyrchol. Er y gall pentyrru mis Rhagfyr fod yn un o'r rhesymau dros yr hyn sydd wedi digwydd, a'r pandemig hefyd, yr eliffant ar y dec cerbydau hanner gwag hwnnw yw'r cynnydd enfawr mewn masnach ar y llwybrau uniongyrchol hynny. Credaf fod masnach drwy Rosslare wedi cynyddu tua 500 y cant. Ac ydy, mae'n hwy, ond nid oes unrhyw fiwrocratiaeth ynghlwm wrth y llwybr hwnnw, ac er bod llwybr Caergybi wedi bod yn rhatach yn draddodiadol yn ogystal â bod yn fwy cyfleus, nid yw'n cymryd athrylith i gyfrifo beth y mae cynnydd mawr mewn traffig uniongyrchol yn debygol o'i olygu i brisiau ar y llwybrau uniongyrchol hynny chwaith. Nawr, rwy'n ddiolchgar am y copi o'r llythyr sydd wedi'i grybwyll, gan Weinidog yr economi i Lywodraeth y DU, yn galw am gymorth, yn ariannol ac fel arall, i ymdopi â'r rhwystrau newydd sylweddol nad ydynt yn dariffau. Ond a wnaiff y Gweinidog roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i ni ynglŷn â sut y gall Llywodraeth Cymru ddarparu mwy o gymorth yn awr, gan gynnwys drwy sefydlu'r math o seilwaith hirdymor ar y ffin sydd ei angen arnom i helpu masnach i lifo'n rhydd mewn modd y mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi methu ei gyflawni?
Well, what we are doing is very practical, really, in terms of working with the other two Governments and bringing those together. We've been absolutely at the forefront, really, of discussions, both with the UK Government and the Irish Government, as I mentioned earlier, but also with local authorities, including his own, and port stakeholders in relation to these matters, to make sure that we have the latest intelligence of what is happening, as far as possible, in real time to freight. We have seen some action on some of the issues that we've been highlighting, including some of the short-term easements, effectively, that the Irish Government have put in place in relation to the pre-boarding notification procedures, and, as I mentioned in passing earlier, some of those very practical things around webinars and so on.
In relation to the infrastructure that he speaks about, the Welsh Government's new responsibilities, effectively, start from the beginning of July, both in Holyhead and in the south-west, but we are working with HMRC and the UK Government to identify the best locations as near as possible to the port for that infrastructure to be placed. We want it to be as near as possible to the port, for reasons that I think are obvious, and there are a small number of options for us, which we are now homing in on. What I would say to him, though, is that it's almost impossible to imagine circumstances where that could be delivered now by 1 July, given the time we lost last year in the UK Government properly engaging us. So, we are now pressing the UK Government for an understanding of what contingency measures can be put in place so that Holyhead and other ports in Wales, and, indeed, across the UK, are able to do this in an orderly fashion, given the time we lost last year.
Wel, mae'r hyn rydym yn ei wneud yn ymarferol iawn mewn gwirionedd, o ran gweithio gyda'r ddwy Lywodraeth arall a dod â'r rheini at ei gilydd. Rydym wedi bod yn flaenllaw yn y trafodaethau gyda Llywodraeth y DU a Llywodraeth Iwerddon mewn gwirionedd, fel y soniais yn gynharach, ond hefyd gydag awdurdodau lleol, gan gynnwys ei randdeiliaid ei hun, a rhanddeiliaid porthladdoedd mewn perthynas â'r materion hyn, i sicrhau bod gennym y wybodaeth ddiweddaraf cyn belled ag y bo modd am yr hyn sy'n digwydd mewn amser real i gludo llwythi. Rydym wedi gweld rhywfaint o weithredu ar rai o'r materion y buom yn tynnu sylw atynt, gan gynnwys rhai o'r hawddfreintiau tymor byr, i bob pwrpas, y mae Llywodraeth Iwerddon wedi'u rhoi ar waith mewn perthynas â'r gweithdrefnau hysbysu cyn mynd ar long, ac fel y crybwyllais yn sydyn yn gynharach, rhai o'r pethau ymarferol iawn hynny gyda gweminarau ac yn y blaen.
O ran y seilwaith y mae'n siarad amdano, mae cyfrifoldebau newydd Llywodraeth Cymru, i bob pwrpas, yn dechrau o ddechrau mis Gorffennaf, yng Nghaergybi ac yn y de-orllewin, ond rydym yn gweithio gyda CThEM a Llywodraeth y DU i nodi'r lleoliadau gorau mor agos â phosibl at y porthladd ar gyfer lleoli'r seilwaith hwnnw. Rydym eisiau iddo fod mor agos â phosibl at y porthladd, am resymau sy'n amlwg yn fy marn i, a cheir nifer fach o opsiynau rydym wrthi'n eu hystyried. Yr hyn y byddwn yn ei ddweud wrtho, serch hynny, yw ei bod bron yn amhosibl dychmygu amgylchiadau lle y gellid cyflawni hynny erbyn 1 Gorffennaf, o gofio'r amser a gollwyd y llynedd pan nad oedd Llywodraeth y DU yn ymgysylltu'n briodol â ni. Felly, rydym yn pwyso ar Lywodraeth y DU yn awr am ddealltwriaeth o ba fesurau wrth gefn y gellir eu rhoi ar waith fel bod Caergybi a phorthladdoedd eraill yng Nghymru, a ledled y DU yn wir, yn gallu gwneud hyn mewn modd trefnus, o gofio'r amser a gollwyd gennym y llynedd.
6. Pa asesiad y mae'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol wedi'i wneud o effaith Deddf Marchnad Fewnol y Deyrnas Unedig 2020? OQ56178
6. What assessment has the Counsel General made of the impact of the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020? OQ56178
The UK internal market Act seeks to hollow out the Senedd's legislative competence in a number of areas. That is why I have initiated legal action. It also gives the UK Government financial assistance powers, as they're called, which are already being used to circumvent devolved competence, most blatantly through the so-called shared prosperity fund.
Mae Deddf Marchnad Fewnol y DU yn ceisio dileu cymhwysedd deddfwriaethol y Senedd mewn nifer o feysydd. Dyna pam y rhoddais gamau cyfreithiol ar waith. Mae hefyd yn rhoi pwerau cymorth ariannol, fel y'u gelwir, i Lywodraeth y DU, ac maent eisoes yn cael eu defnyddio i osgoi cymhwysedd datganoledig, yn fwyaf amlwg drwy'r gronfa ffyniant gyffredin fel y'i gelwir.
I absolutely support the actions that you've taken, and I hope that everybody here will as well. We find ourselves—and I'll use the terminology of the right wing—in splendid isolation in terms of the ports in the areas that I represent actually not having any trade. However, there is nothing splendid in being isolated in a way that threatens jobs and threatens the economy. People are being left stranded with nothing to do and no future to look forward to. So, could I ask you if you will continue with the conversations, but also implore the Secretary of State for Wales, who represents this area, to be a louder and clearer voice in supporting those businesses in his own community?
Rwy'n llwyr gefnogi'r camau rydych wedi'u cymryd, a gobeithio y bydd pawb yma'n eu cefnogi hefyd. Rydym mewn sefyllfa—ac rwyf am ddefnyddio terminoleg yr adain dde—o arwahanrwydd gogoneddus yn yr ystyr nad oes gan y porthladdoedd yn yr ardaloedd rwy'n eu cynrychioli unrhyw fasnach mewn gwirionedd. Fodd bynnag, nid oes unrhyw beth yn ogoneddus ynglŷn â bod ar wahân mewn ffordd sy'n bygwth swyddi ac yn bygwth yr economi. Mae pobl yn cael eu gadael heb ddim i'w wneud a heb ddyfodol i edrych ymlaen ato. Felly, a gaf fi ofyn i chi barhau â'r sgyrsiau hynny, ond hefyd i erfyn ar Ysgrifennydd Gwladol Cymru, sy'n cynrychioli'r ardal hon, i fod yn llais cryfach a chliriach yn ei gefnogaeth i'r busnesau hynny yn ei gymuned ei hun?
I would echo Joyce Watson's concerns in relation to this. What we will do as a Government is continue the efforts that we've been engaged in to make sure that the economic impact on the ports in the region that she represents, and, indeed, businesses right across Wales—that they are able to respond to these new barriers that the trade and co-operation agreement have introduced. There is no doubt that there are many challenges for businesses that lie ahead. We are working on understanding the implications of what is still a very new set of arrangements, and we'll be hoping to provide some further specific guidance to businesses in Wales in the coming weeks in relation to that. I'm sure the Secretary of State for Wales will have heard Joyce Watson's pleas on behalf of the part of the world they both represent.
Byddwn yn adleisio pryderon Joyce Watson ynglŷn â hyn. Fel Llywodraeth byddwn yn parhau â'n hymdrechion i sicrhau bod yr effaith economaidd ar y porthladdoedd yn y rhanbarth y mae'n ei chynrychioli, a busnesau ledled Cymru yn wir—eu bod yn gallu ymateb i'r rhwystrau newydd hyn y mae'r cytundeb masnach a chydweithredu wedi'u cyflwyno. Nid oes amheuaeth y bydd llawer o heriau'n wynebu busnesau yn y dyfodol. Rydym yn gweithio i geisio deall goblygiadau'r hyn sy'n dal i fod yn set newydd iawn o drefniadau, a byddwn yn gobeithio darparu canllawiau penodol pellach i fusnesau yng Nghymru yn ystod yr wythnosau nesaf mewn perthynas â hynny. Rwy'n siŵr y bydd Ysgrifennydd Gwladol Cymru wedi clywed apêl Joyce Watson ar ran y rhan o'r byd y mae'r ddau ohonynt yn ei chynrychioli.
7. A wnaiff y Cwnsler Cyffredinol roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf am gynnydd fframweithiau cyffredin y DU? OQ56171
7. Will the Counsel General provide an update on the progress of the UK common frameworks? OQ56171
Certainly. I have now endorsed the vast majority of common frameworks of relevance to Wales on behalf of the Welsh Government. These are provisionally operational pending development and scrutiny by the Senedd and by the other legislatures. I anticipate being able to endorse the organic production framework shortly as well. Two further frameworks—the professional qualifications and services frameworks—will be developed this year.
Yn sicr. Rwyf bellach wedi cymeradwyo'r mwyafrif helaeth o fframweithiau cyffredin sy'n berthnasol i Gymru ar ran Llywodraeth Cymru. Mae'r rhain yn weithredol dros dro wrth aros i'r Senedd a'r deddfwrfeydd eraill eu datblygu a chraffu arnynt. Rwy'n rhagweld y gallaf gymeradwyo'r fframwaith cynhyrchu organig cyn bo hir hefyd. Bydd dau fframwaith arall—y fframweithiau cymwysterau a gwasanaethau proffesiynol—yn cael eu datblygu eleni.
As you will remember, the EU withdrawal Bill, which received legislative consent from this Senedd, agreed that UK-wide frameworks to replace the EU rulebook will be freely negotiated between the four UK Governments in many areas, some of which you mentioned, and also including, for example, food, animal welfare and the environment. As your colleague the Minister for environment and rural affairs said in her statement on the inter-ministerial group for environment, food and rural affairs last autumn,
'I insisted frameworks had been designed to help understand and manage divergence between the four administrations'.
Indeed, the inter-ministerial group at this meeting agreed a refreshed approach to the finalisation of frameworks to ensure all reached a provisional and usable level by the end of 2020. Last month, in a positive response to the House of Lords, UK Ministers unveiled new amendments to the UK internal market Bill that will protect the common frameworks agreed with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, preventing barriers to internal trade within the UK that would disadvantage Welsh consumers and businesses. Why, therefore, are you using public resources to take legal action against the UK Government when these agreed frameworks enable current levels of flexibility to be maintained within agreed common approaches?
Fel y cofiwch, roedd y Bil ymadael â'r UE, a gafodd gydsyniad deddfwriaethol gan y Senedd hon, yn cytuno y bydd fframweithiau ar gyfer y DU gyfan i gymryd lle rheolau'r UE yn cael eu negodi'n rhydd rhwng pedair Llywodraeth y DU mewn sawl maes, ac rydych wedi sôn am rai ohonynt, a hefyd yn cynnwys, er enghraifft, bwyd, lles anifeiliaid a'r amgylchedd. Fel y dywedodd eich cyd-Aelod, Gweinidog yr amgylchedd a materion gwledig, yn ei datganiad ar grŵp rhyng-weinidogol yr amgylchedd, bwyd a materion gwledig yr hydref diwethaf,
'Pwysleisiais fod fframweithiau wedi’u dylunio i helpu i ddeall a rheoli gwahaniaethau rhwng y pedair gweinyddiaeth'.
Yn wir, cytunodd y grŵp rhyng-weinidogol yn y cyfarfod hwn ar ddull newydd o gwblhau fframweithiau er mwyn sicrhau bod pob un yn cyrraedd lefel dros dro a defnyddiadwy erbyn diwedd 2020. Fis diwethaf, mewn ymateb cadarnhaol i Dŷ'r Arglwyddi, datgelodd Gweinidogion y DU welliannau newydd i Fil marchnad fewnol y DU a fydd yn diogelu'r fframweithiau cyffredin y cytunwyd arnynt gyda'r Alban, Cymru a Gogledd Iwerddon, gan atal rhwystrau i fasnach fewnol yn y DU a fyddai'n rhoi defnyddwyr a busnesau Cymru dan anfantais. Felly, pam rydych yn defnyddio adnoddau cyhoeddus i roi camau cyfreithiol ar waith yn erbyn Llywodraeth y DU pan fo'r fframweithiau hyn y cytunwyd arnynt yn ei gwneud hi'n bosibl cynnal y lefelau presennol o hyblygrwydd o fewn dulliau cyffredin y cytunwyd arnynt?
I think the Member may possibly have misunderstood exactly the impact of the amendments made by the House of Lords in relation to this. I'd like to pay tribute, if I may, to Lord Hope, who led on amendments on this particular issue, but also Lords across the Chamber, including some Conservative peers, who recognise, as perhaps the Member does not, the threat that the Act represents to devolution. I should just say that the amendments had the effect, simply, of giving the Secretary of State the discretion to amend the devolution settlement where a framework has been agreed. When one says that out loud, I think the challenges with that are transparent enough: firstly, that the devolution settlement should be capable of being amended by UK Government Ministers in any event, and secondly, that it should be a matter of discretion. Those are two of the examples why we think the Act needs to be challenged in court, and part of the rationale for us doing so.
Credaf y gallai'r Aelod fod wedi camddeall union effaith y gwelliannau a wnaed gan Dŷ'r Arglwyddi mewn perthynas â hyn. Hoffwn dalu teyrnged, os caf fi, i'r Arglwydd Hope, a arweiniodd ar welliannau ar y mater penodol hwn, ond hefyd Arglwyddi ar draws y Siambr, gan gynnwys rhai arglwyddi Ceidwadol, sy'n cydnabod, yn wahanol i'r Aelod o bosibl, bygythiad y Ddeddf i ddatganoli. Dylwn ddweud mai effaith y gwelliannau, yn syml, oedd rhoi disgresiwn i'r Ysgrifennydd Gwladol ddiwygio'r setliad datganoli lle cytunwyd ar fframwaith. Pan fydd rhywun yn dweud hynny'n uchel, credaf fod yr heriau sydd ynghlwm wrth hynny'n ddigon amlwg: yn gyntaf, y dylai'r setliad datganoli allu cael ei ddiwygio gan Weinidogion Llywodraeth y DU, ac yn ail, y dylai fod yn fater o ddisgresiwn. Dyna ddwy enghraifft sy'n dangos pam ein bod yn credu bod angen herio'r Ddeddf yn y llys, a rhan o'r rhesymeg dros wneud hynny.
Diolch i'r Gweinidog.
Thank you, Minister.
Rŷn ni'n dod nawr at y cwestiynau amserol. Mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf y prynhawn yma i'w ateb gan y Prif Weinidog ac i'w ofyn gan Dai Lloyd.
That brings us to the topical questions. The first question this afternoon is to be answered by the First Minister and asked by Dai Lloyd.
1. A wnaiff y Prif Weinidog ddatganiad am nifer yr achosion o COVID-19 yn y DVLA yn Abertawe? TQ533
1. Will the First Minister make a statement on the number of COVID-19 cases at the DVLA in Swansea? TQ533
Mae'n destun gofid bod dros 500 o achosion COVID wedi eu cofnodi ymysg staff y DVLA ers mis Medi. Cafod tîm rheoli y digwyddiad ei sefydlu ar ddechrau mis Hydref i gefnogi'r ymateb amddiffyn iechyd. Rwyf wedi codi pryderon sawl gwaith gyda Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig ynglŷn â nifer yr achosion a'r arferion yn y gweithle.
It's a cause of concern that there have been over the 500 COVID cases recorded among DVLA staff since September. An incident management team was established at the beginning of October to support the health protection response. I've raised concerns on a number of occasions with UK Government on the number of cases and working practices at the DVLA.
Thank you, First Minister for that answer. Obviously, the current situation at the DVLA is inexcusable. The number of staff that have contracted COVID, as you've outlined, is a huge worry, reflecting the concerns expressed by workers at the site with regard to poor working practices and COVID safeguarding practices. Can I just quote from a recent e-mail received from a staff member? 'On my floor, there are still 100 staff on the floor, sharing kitchens, toilets, no windows to open on the whole floor. I imagine this is the same on the 15 other floors'—for those of you who know the DVLA building in Swansea.
I've written directly to the DVLA on three separate occasions since the start of the pandemic. The first time was back in March 2020, as these concerns were expressed to me then, also in October 2020, and earlier this month, with replies from the chief executive. So, I've written three times. Many people were and still do—who are employed by the DVLA—they were contacting me, stating they did not feel safe, as we've heard, with the measures that were in place and in terms of what management were asking of them. Unfortunately, therefore, it appears that the situation has not improved at all—[Inaudible.]—help us in Swansea trying to reduce the spread of the virus within our local communities. We need firm action to be taken on this, and I'd be grateful for further details, First Minister, in terms of how the Welsh Government plans to step up their actions—obviously, the DVLA is a non-devolved issue—working with the UK Government and Swansea council and looking at all possible legal avenues to ensure that the DVLA is a safe working environment.
So, could you outline what further action you could take, particularly around the legal enforcement of Welsh law in this matter? Are you looking at strengthening the law in this area or strengthening the sanctions? If any employer, private or public, cannot guarantee the safety of their employees at this time, then quite simply they should be shut down until appropriate measures are in place. Employees of the DVLA and residents of Swansea certainly want to see further action, and I would urge you to do all that you can to ensure that Welsh law, in this instance, is adhered to. Diolch yn fawr.
Diolch am yr ateb hwnnw, Brif Weinidog. Yn amlwg, mae'r sefyllfa bresennol yn y DVLA yn anfaddeuol. Mae nifer y staff sydd wedi dal COVID, fel yr amlinellwyd gennych, yn bryder enfawr, sy'n adlewyrchu'r pryderon a fynegwyd gan weithwyr ar y safle mewn perthynas ag arferion gwaith gwael ac arferion diogelu rhag COVID. A gaf fi ddyfynnu o e-bost diweddar a ddaeth i law gan aelod o staff? 'Ar fy llawr, mae 100 o staff ar y llawr o hyd, yn rhannu ceginau, toiledau ac nid oes unrhyw ffenestri i'w hagor ar y llawr cyfan. Rwy'n dychmygu bod hyn yr un fath ar y 15 llawr arall'—i'r rheini ohonoch sy'n adnabod adeilad y DVLA yn Abertawe.
Rwyf wedi ysgrifennu'n uniongyrchol at y DVLA ar dri achlysur gwahanol ers dechrau'r pandemig. Yn ôl ym mis Mawrth 2020 oedd y tro cyntaf, gan i'r pryderon hyn gael eu dwyn i fy sylw bryd hynny, hefyd ym mis Hydref 2020, ac yn gynharach y mis hwn, gydag atebion gan y prif weithredwr. Felly, rwyf wedi ysgrifennu deirgwaith. Roedd llawer o bobl sy'n cael eu cyflogi gan y DVLA yn cysylltu â mi, ac maent yn dal i wneud hynny, i ddweud nad oeddent yn teimlo'n ddiogel, fel y clywsom, gyda'r mesurau a oedd ar waith ac o ran yr hyn roedd y rheolwyr yn gofyn iddynt ei wneud. Yn anffodus, felly, mae'n ymddangos nad yw'r sefyllfa wedi gwella o gwbl—[Anghlywadwy.]—helpu ni yn Abertawe i geisio lleihau lledaeniad y feirws yn ein cymunedau lleol. Mae angen rhoi camau pendant ar waith ar hyn, a byddwn yn ddiolchgar am ragor o fanylion, Brif Weinidog, o ran sut y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn bwriadu gwneud mwy—yn amlwg, mae'r DVLA yn fater sydd heb ei ddatganoli—gan weithio gyda Llywodraeth y DU a chyngor Abertawe ac edrych ar bob llwybr cyfreithiol posibl i sicrhau bod y DVLA yn amgylchedd gwaith diogel.
Felly, a allech chi amlinellu pa gamau pellach y gallech eu cymryd, yn enwedig o ran gorfodi cyfraith Cymru yn gyfreithlon yn y mater hwn? A ydych yn ystyried cryfhau'r gyfraith yn y maes hwn neu gryfhau'r sancsiynau? Os na all unrhyw gyflogwr, boed yn breifat neu'n gyhoeddus, warantu diogelwch eu gweithwyr ar yr adeg hon, dylid eu cau hyd nes y bydd mesurau priodol ar waith. Yn sicr, mae gweithwyr y DVLA a thrigolion Abertawe eisiau gweld gweithredu pellach, a byddwn yn eich annog i wneud popeth yn eich gallu i sicrhau cydymffurfiaeth â chyfraith Cymru yn yr achos hwn. Diolch yn fawr.
Dr Lloyd raises a series of very important concerns relayed to him by members of the workforce. They chime exactly with the concerns that our colleague Mike Hedges has regularly conveyed to me over recent weeks. I pay tribute to Mike's work and the assiduous way in which he has pursued this matter. In answer to Dr Lloyd's questions, first of all, he will be aware, I'm sure, that the law has been strengthened during the current three-week cycle. We have placed into regulations a set of requirements that all workplaces must observe to reflect the additional risks caused by the new variant of COVID-19. I wrote twice to the Minister responsible for the DVLA in December and in January. I received assurances from her that Welsh law will be complied with at the DVLA, including the changes in requirements announced for employers in Wales on 15 January. In the meantime, the incident management team that operates in relation to the DVLA continues to meet and to provide both advice and to require action from that non-devolved authority. Members will be, I know, glad to hear that Public Health Wales's records show that, as of Friday of last week, there were only five DVLA staff from across its workforce isolating as a result of the virus.
Mae Dr Lloyd yn nodi cyfres o bryderon pwysig iawn a fynegwyd wrtho gan aelodau o'r gweithlu. Maent yn cyd-fynd yn llwyr â'r pryderon y mae ein cyd-Aelod, Mike Hedges, wedi'u mynegi'n rheolaidd dros yr wythnosau diwethaf. Rwy'n talu teyrnged i waith Mike a'r ffordd weithgar y mae wedi mynd ar drywydd y mater hwn. Wrth ateb cwestiynau Dr Lloyd, yn gyntaf oll, fe fydd yn ymwybodol, rwy'n siŵr, fod y gyfraith wedi'i chryfhau yn ystod y cylch tair wythnos presennol. Yn y rheoliadau, rydym wedi cynnwys cyfres o ofynion y mae'n rhaid i bob gweithle eu dilyn i adlewyrchu'r risgiau ychwanegol a achosir gan yr amrywiolyn newydd o COVID-19. Ysgrifennais ddwywaith at y Gweinidog sy'n gyfrifol am y DVLA ym mis Rhagfyr ac ym mis Ionawr. Cefais sicrwydd ganddi y cydymffurfir â chyfraith Cymru yn y DVLA, gan gynnwys y newidiadau yn y gofynion a gyhoeddwyd ar gyfer cyflogwyr yng Nghymru ar 15 Ionawr. Yn y cyfamser, mae'r tîm rheoli digwyddiadau sy'n gweithredu mewn perthynas â'r DVLA yn parhau i gyfarfod a darparu cyngor ac i fynnu bod yr awdurdod hwnnw nad yw wedi'i ddatganoli yn gweithredu. Gwn y bydd yr Aelodau'n falch o glywed bod cofnodion Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru yn dangos, ddydd Gwener diwethaf, mai dim ond pum aelod o staff y DVLA ar draws ei weithlu oedd yn ynysu o ganlyniad i'r feirws.
Mike Hedges has been raising this in our weekly meetings with the local health board for as long as I can remember, so I'm glad that we're having the opportunity to discuss it today. It's not the only big operation in South Wales West that's been dealing with big figures, though; we have had some difficult news from Tata and from Amazon as well, which have also seen a rise in cases. I've had correspondence very similar to Dai Lloyd with questions about what should be going on at the site, but I've also had correspondence saying that DVLA managers are overzealous in imposing and insisting upon enforcement. So, I think the picture is a bit mixed there, but nevertheless we are in a situation where the figures have been poor. First Minister, have you had any direct representation from workers at the DVLA, or indeed the other two businesses I've heard from? And have you considered any changes to the guidance as a result of those representations? I'm sure they'd be of interest to any big site operators in any part of Wales. Thank you.
Mae Mike Hedges wedi bod yn codi hyn yn ein cyfarfodydd wythnosol gyda'r bwrdd iechyd lleol cyhyd ag y gallaf gofio, felly rwy'n falch ein bod yn cael cyfle i'w drafod heddiw. Fodd bynnag, nid dyma'r unig waith mawr yng Ngorllewin De Cymru sydd wedi bod yn ymdrin â niferoedd mawr; rydym wedi cael newyddion anodd gan Tata a chan Amazon hefyd, sydd hefyd wedi gweld cynnydd yn nifer yr achosion. Rwyf wedi cael gohebiaeth debyg iawn i Dai Lloyd gyda chwestiynau ynglŷn â beth ddylai fod yn digwydd ar y safle, ond rwyf hefyd wedi cael gohebiaeth yn dweud bod rheolwyr DVLA yn rhy frwd wrth orfodi a mynnu gorfodaeth. Felly, credaf fod y darlun braidd yn gymysglyd yno, ond serch hynny rydym mewn sefyllfa lle mae'r niferoedd wedi bod yn wael. Brif Weinidog, a ydych wedi cael unrhyw sylwadau uniongyrchol gan weithwyr yn y DVLA, neu'n wir, y ddau fusnes arall y clywais ganddynt? Ac a ydych wedi ystyried unrhyw newidiadau i'r canllawiau o ganlyniad i'r sylwadau hynny? Rwy'n siŵr y byddent o ddiddordeb i unrhyw weithredwyr safleoedd mawr mewn unrhyw ran o Gymru. Diolch.
I do indeed get direct representation from workers in many settings across Wales. In the case of the DVLA, for example, by some strange route, a member of staff at the DVLA phoned me at home. Now, I was here in work and my wife ended up speaking to a lady, as my wife thought, in her fifties and living alone who was acutely distressed at what she believed to be the conditions under which she was required to work at the DVLA. And, of course, those concerns were relayed to me and followed up. So, yes, indeed, I do hear directly and, as Suzy Davies said, the DVLA is not the only workplace where workers have concerns. And it's as a result of that direct, ground-floor evidence, fed through to us, and discussed at the new national health and safety forum that we have here in Wales, attended by trade unions, employers and regulators, that we made the decision to strengthen the law here in Wales so that workers' voices are heard, individually and collectively, by the Welsh Government, and, where necessary, we act on their concerns.
Rwy'n sicr yn cael sylwadau uniongyrchol gan weithwyr mewn llawer o leoliadau ledled Cymru. Yn achos y DVLA, er enghraifft, drwy ryw lwybr rhyfedd, ffoniodd aelod o staff y DVLA fi gartref. Nawr, roeddwn yma yn y gwaith a bu'n rhaid i fy ngwraig siarad â menyw, y tybiai fy ngwraig ei bod yn ei phum degau, a oedd yn byw ar ei phen ei hun ac a oedd yn ofidus iawn ynglŷn â'r amodau y credai fod gofyn iddi weithio oddi tanynt yn y DVLA. Ac wrth gwrs, cafodd y pryderon hynny eu mynegi wrthyf a'u harchwilio. Felly, ydw, yn wir, rwy'n clywed y pethau hyn yn uniongyrchol ac fel y dywedodd Suzy Davies, nid y DVLA yw'r unig weithle lle mae gan weithwyr bryderon. Ac o ganlyniad i'r dystiolaeth sylfaenol, uniongyrchol honno, a gafodd ei rhoi i ni, a'i thrafod yn y fforwm iechyd a diogelwch cenedlaethol newydd sydd gennym yma yng Nghymru, fforwm a fynychir gan undebau llafur, cyflogwyr a rheoleiddwyr, penderfynasom gryfhau'r gyfraith yma yng Nghymru fel bod lleisiau gweithwyr yn cael eu clywed, yn unigol ac ar y cyd, gan Lywodraeth Cymru, a'n bod yn gweithredu ar eu pryderon lle bo angen.
As the First Minister is aware, I've been talking about the DVLA for a very long time, and I also spoke about it in a Senedd debate last month. I've also raised it with the health board regularly, as Suzy Davies pointed out. In the first lockdown, after the initial problems, most people at the DVLA worked from home. If you access the distributed system or main network, location is not important. Here are some extracts from three of the many e-mails I've received:
'DVLA are aware of health problems and also that I care for family with health problems.'
'I'm struggling being in the workplace, and I'm hyper-aware of the conditions and the volume of people surrounding me in the office.'
'I have asked to work from home, but unfortunately the DVLA have required me to attend the office.'
I thank the First Minister for the letters he's sent. And I think that, really, I find difficulty asking the First Minister to do any more, because I can't think of much more that he can do. But I think what I would say is that, in the first pandemic, working from home was the norm amongst people in the DVLA; since the second shutdown, it has not been the norm. And I would ask him again to write to Baroness Vere, telling her that you expect that, where people can work from home, they do—it's the law in Wales.
Fel y gŵyr y Prif Weinidog, rwyf wedi bod yn siarad am y DVLA ers amser maith, a siaradais amdano hefyd mewn dadl yn y Senedd fis diwethaf. Rwyf hefyd wedi'i godi gyda'r bwrdd iechyd yn rheolaidd, fel y nododd Suzy Davies. Yn ystod y cyfyngiadau symud cyntaf, ar ôl y problemau cychwynnol, roedd y rhan fwyaf o bobl yn y DVLA yn gweithio gartref. Os ydych yn defnyddio'r system wasgaredig neu'r prif rwydwaith, nid yw'r lleoliad yn bwysig. Dyma rai dyfyniadau o dair o'r negeseuon e-bost niferus rwyf wedi'u cael:
Mae'r DVLA yn ymwybodol o broblemau iechyd a hefyd fy mod yn gofalu am deulu sydd â phroblemau iechyd.
Rwy'n ei chael hi'n anodd bod yn y gweithle, ac rwy'n ymwybodol iawn o'r amodau a nifer y bobl o'm cwmpas yn y swyddfa.
Rwyf wedi gofyn am gael gweithio gartref, ond yn anffodus mae'r DVLA wedi mynnu fy mod yn dod i'r swyddfa.
Diolch i'r Prif Weinidog am y llythyrau y mae wedi'u hanfon. Ac rwy'n credu mewn gwirionedd fy mod yn ei chael hi'n anodd gofyn i'r Prif Weinidog wneud mwy, gan na allaf feddwl am lawer mwy y gall ei wneud. Ond rwy'n credu mai'r hyn y byddwn i'n ei ddweud yw mai gweithio gartref, yn y pandemig cyntaf, oedd y norm ymhlith pobl yn y DVLA; ers yr ail gyfnod o gyfyngiadau symud, nid dyna yw'r norm. A hoffwn ofyn iddo ysgrifennu eto at y Farwnes Vere, i ddweud wrthi, lle gall pobl weithio gartref, eich bod yn disgwyl eu bod yn gwneud hynny—dyna yw'r gyfraith yng Nghymru.
Well, Llywydd, may I thank Mike Hedges for that? And I'm very happy to write again to Baroness Vere, as a result of these concerns expressed on the floor of the Senedd. Llywydd, as I said, I wrote to the baroness, as the Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Department for Transport, on 22 December. I got a reply dated 23 December. And I must say that, by the standards of correspondence I sometimes see from Whitehall, this was a detailed and engaged reply that did respond to the issues raised in my letter of the twenty-second. I wrote again on 12 January, because I still felt that that first reply left unanswered a series of issues that had been raised directly with us as a Government, including the proportion of staff expected physically to attend the workplace in relation to those working from home. The reply that I subsequently received did deal directly with the issue of the number of people working from home, together with issues of cleaning, ventilation, staff engagement, and a number of other issues that I had set out in my letter. My concern is that there is a gap between the advice that the Parliamentary Under Secretary receives from managers and others on the spot, compared to the evidence that is provided directly to Members here by people who work in the various offices of the DVLA. And I'm very happy to write to her again, relaying Members' concerns, and asking her once again to be sure that the advice that she relies on, or the—[Inaudible.]—that she provides to the Welsh Government, would stand up to examination by those working at the front line.
Wel, Lywydd, a gaf fi ddiolch i Mike Hedges am hynny? Ac rwy'n hapus iawn i ysgrifennu eto at y Farwnes Vere, yn sgil y pryderon a fynegwyd ar lawr y Senedd. Lywydd, fel y dywedais, ysgrifennais at y farwnes, fel yr Is-ysgrifennydd Gwladol Seneddol yn yr Adran Drafnidiaeth, ar 22 Rhagfyr. Cefais ateb dyddiedig 23 Rhagfyr. A rhaid imi ddweud, yn ôl safonau'r ohebiaeth a welaf weithiau gan Whitehall, roedd hwn yn ateb manwl a pharod a oedd yn ymateb i'r materion a godwyd yn fy llythyr dyddiedig 22 Rhagfyr. Ysgrifennais eto ar 12 Ionawr, am fy mod yn dal i deimlo nad oedd yr ymateb cyntaf wedi ateb cyfres o faterion a godwyd yn uniongyrchol gyda ni fel Llywodraeth, gan gynnwys cyfran y staff y disgwylir iddynt fynychu'r gweithle yn y cnawd o gymharu â'r nifer sy'n gweithio gartref. Roedd yr ateb a gefais wedyn yn ymdrin yn uniongyrchol â nifer y bobl sy'n gweithio gartref, ynghyd â materion yn ymwneud â glanhau, awyru, ymgysylltu â staff, a nifer o faterion eraill a nodais yn fy llythyr. Fy mhryder i yw bod bwlch rhwng y cyngor y mae'r Is-ysgrifennydd Seneddol yn ei gael gan y rheolwyr ac eraill yn y fan a'r lle, o'i gymharu â'r dystiolaeth a ddarperir yn uniongyrchol i Aelodau yma gan bobl sy'n gweithio yn swyddfeydd amrywiol y DVLA. Ac rwy'n hapus iawn i ysgrifennu ati eto, i gyfleu pryderon yr Aelodau, a gofyn iddi unwaith eto i sicrhau bod y cyngor y mae'n dibynnu arno, neu'r—[Anghlywadwy.]—y mae'n ei ddarparu i Lywodraeth Cymru, yn ddilys o graffu arno gan y rhai sy'n gweithio yn y rheng flaen.
Diolch i'r Prif Weinidog. A'r ail gwestiwn atodol nesaf i'w ateb gan y Gweinidog Tai a Llywodraeth Leol. Mi fyddaf i'n trosglwyddo'r gadair i Ann Jones yn y funud, ond dwi'n galw'n gyntaf ar David Rees i ofyn ei gwestiwn amserol. David Rees.
Thank you, First Minister. The second topical question is to be answered by the Minister for Housing and Local Government. I will hand the chair to Ann Jones in just a moment, but I first of all call on David Rees to ask his topical question. David Rees.
Daeth y Dirprwy Lywydd (Ann Jones) i’r Gadair.
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Ann Jones) took the Chair.
2. Pa gamau y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu cymryd i gefnogi trigolion a gafodd eu symud o'u cartrefi yn Sgiwen yn dilyn llifogydd a achoswyd gan ddŵr sy'n deillio o hen safle glofaol? TQ534
2. What action is the Welsh Government taking to support residents who were evacuated from their homes in Skewen following flooding caused by water emanating from old mine workings? TQ534
Thank you, David. I want to put on record again my thanks to local authority and emergency services, who are working so hard to support people across Wales who have been impacted by storm Christoph and other extreme events. I certainly recognise the impact on those evacuated from their homes in Skewen, particularly during the current pandemic. And I'm very pleased to confirm that those evacuated for more than 24 hours will be supported in the same way as householders flooded out of their homes during the earlier lockdowns.
Diolch, David. Hoffwn gofnodi eto fy niolch i'r awdurdod lleol a'r gwasanaethau brys, sy'n gweithio mor galed i gefnogi'r bobl ledled Cymru y mae storm Christoph a digwyddiadau tywydd garw eraill wedi effeithio arnynt. Rwy'n sicr yn cydnabod yr effaith ar y rhai a gafodd eu symud o'u cartrefi yn Sgiwen, yn enwedig yn ystod y pandemig presennol. Ac rwy'n falch iawn o gadarnhau y bydd y rhai y bu'n rhaid iddynt adael eu cartrefi am fwy na 24 awr yn cael eu cefnogi yn yr un modd â deiliaid tai a ddioddefodd lifogydd yn eu cartrefi yn ystod y cyfyngiadau symud cynharach.
Thank you for that, Minister. And can I also put on record my thanks to the workers of the local authority and other agencies who worked tirelessly during that flooding on the Thursday and since? Can I also put on record my appreciation for the community, who have pulled together in Skewen to help residents who have been evacuated, working with The Salvation Army and the local councillor, Mike Harvey, who's been outstanding during this?
You indicated that the funding for flooding is going to be available to all those—can you confirm to all those evacuated, not just to those affected by flooding? Because several residents were evacuated because of safety fears, but were not flooded out as a consequence of this, and they may be some of the ones who will not be allowed back into their homes for weeks to come yet. So, it is important that we look at that.
Can you also tell us how you're discussing with the local authority extra funding to help them? Because they are going above and beyond and making sure that residents are supported both through social services and other means, as they are still—some are out and some are going back today into their homes, but they face devastation in their house, they're being assessed, they won't be able to stay in their homes because some of the damage that's been caused. So, it is important we look at how we support the local authority in that agenda.
Can you tell us as to how you will look at those who are uninsured? Not everyone was insured, and there are several homes that were uninsured and they are going to be facing some serious difficult times ahead of them, particularly during the pandemic, as they can't go and get other places and accommodation will be difficult to find as well.
Can you also tell us as to what discussions you're having with the Coal Authority as to their responsibility and liability in funding aspects in relation to this? I know that they have taken tremendous efforts to fix the mine full of water and the actions—. But that's going to be up to six months. But there are people who have had their homes devastated, and had their lives turned upside down in this process, and we need to know how they're going to be helped, and who is responsible, and who is accountable and who is liable for the financial aspects of that help. And those residents need to know that now, and they need to know that in the future. They want to be able to have the confidence that they know exactly who is going to be helping them and how that help will come.
Diolch ichi am hynny, Weinidog. Ac a gaf fi hefyd gofnodi fy niolch i weithwyr yr awdurdod lleol ac asiantaethau eraill a weithiodd yn ddiflino yn ystod y llifogydd ddydd Iau ac ers hynny? A gaf fi hefyd gofnodi fy ngwerthfawrogiad i'r gymuned, sydd wedi dod at ei gilydd yn Sgiwen i helpu trigolion y bu'n rhaid iddynt adael eu cartrefi, gan weithio gyda Byddin yr Iachawdwriaeth a'r cynghorydd lleol, Mike Harvey, sydd wedi bod yn rhagorol yn ystod hyn?
Fe ddywedoch chi y bydd y cyllid ar gyfer llifogydd ar gael i bawb—a allwch gadarnhau mai i bawb a gafodd eu symud o'u cartrefi a olygwch, nid yn unig i'r rhai yr effeithiwyd arnynt gan y llifogydd? Oherwydd cafodd nifer o breswylwyr eu symud oherwydd ofnau diogelwch, ond ni wnaethant ddioddef llifogydd yn sgil hyn, ac efallai na chaiff rhai ohonynt ddychwelyd i'w cartrefi am wythnosau. Felly, mae'n bwysig ein bod yn edrych ar hynny.
A allwch ddweud wrthym hefyd sut rydych yn trafod cyllid ychwanegol i'w helpu gyda'r awdurdod lleol? Oherwydd maent yn gwneud popeth yn eu gallu i sicrhau bod preswylwyr yn cael eu cefnogi drwy'r gwasanaethau cymdeithasol a ffyrdd eraill, gan eu bod yn dal—mae rhai allan o'u cartrefi ac mae rhai'n mynd yn ôl i'w cartrefi heddiw, ond maent yn wynebu difrod yn eu tai, maent yn cael eu hasesu, ni fyddant yn gallu aros yn eu cartrefi oherwydd peth o'r difrod sydd wedi'i achosi. Felly, mae'n bwysig inni edrych ar sut rydym yn cefnogi'r awdurdod lleol gyda'r agenda honno.
A allwch ddweud wrthym sut y byddwch yn edrych ar y rhai sydd heb yswiriant? Nid oedd pawb wedi'u hyswirio, ac mae nifer o gartrefi heb eu hyswirio a byddant yn wynebu cyfnod difrifol o anodd, yn enwedig yn ystod y pandemig, gan na allant fynd i leoedd eraill a bydd dod o hyd i lety'n anodd hefyd.
A allwch ddweud wrthym hefyd pa drafodaethau rydych yn eu cael gyda'r Awdurdod Glo ynglŷn â'u cyfrifoldeb a'u rhwymedigaeth i ariannu agweddau ar hyn? Gwn eu bod wedi gwneud ymdrech aruthrol i atgyweirio'r pwll sy'n llawn dŵr a'r camau gweithredu—. Ond mae hynny'n mynd i gymryd hyd at chwe mis. Ond mae cartrefi pobl wedi cael eu dinistrio, a'u bywydau wedi'u troi wyneb i waered yn y broses, ac mae angen inni wybod sut y byddant yn cael eu helpu, a phwy sy'n gyfrifol, a phwy sy'n atebol am agweddau ariannol y cymorth hwnnw. Ac mae angen i'r trigolion wybod hynny nawr, ac mae angen iddynt wybod hynny yn y dyfodol. Maent am allu cael hyder eu bod yn gwybod yn union pwy fydd yn eu helpu a sut y daw'r cymorth hwnnw.
Thank you, David. I'm really pleased to say that all residents will be covered. You don't have to have been flooded, but you do have to have been evacuated for 24 hours to access the funding. And, as you rightly say, many of the residents will have been affected for much longer periods of time than that.
We're also activating the issue of an additional payment for people who are without insurance. I know the argument is made that this might encourage people not to have insurance, but it's a £500 payment and I can assure anyone who is worried about that that that is not enough to cover your uninsured losses, but it is a help to just get people back on their feet in the extreme circumstances of the first day or so out of their homes.
Exceptionally, because of other pressures on councils at this time, the eligible cost of responding to flooding by councils during tier 4 restrictions will be covered entirely by the Welsh Government funding under the terms of our existing local government hardship fund. There's an additional fund of £6.5 million being made available from now until 31 March for councils for those costs. There are a number of places around Wales that have found themselves in similar situations. So, I'm pleased to say that that's, of course, a pan-Wales fund for everyone who's been affected.
In terms of the Coal Authority, we've had a series of discussions with the Coal Authority and the UK Government. As David rightly said, investigations are being carried out by the Coal Authority to determine exactly what happened in Skewen last week, and we look forward to their findings with concern. And the First Minister is convening a summit with UK Ministers and key partners to help ensure that the devastating incident is not repeated, and we understand, once we've got the report from the Coal Authority, how to take that forward. That will be a summit specifically on the issue in Skewen, but there is a series of conversations with the Coal Authority and the UK Government going on about the fact that the responsibility isn't devolved to Wales. The Coal Authority should be taking responsibility for a large part of the coal tips. That responsibility, of course, lies with my colleague, Lesley Griffiths, but I am part of the discussion group that the First Minister convenes on coal tip safety.
Diolch, David. Rwy'n falch iawn o ddweud y bydd yr holl breswylwyr yn cael eu cynnwys. Nid oes raid i chi fod wedi dioddef llifogydd, ond mae'n rhaid i chi fod wedi gorfod gadael eich cartref am 24 awr i gael y cyllid. Ac fel y dywedwch yn gywir, bydd llawer o'r trigolion wedi cael eu heffeithio am gyfnodau llawer hwy na hynny.
Rydym hefyd yn gweithredu taliad ychwanegol i bobl sydd heb yswiriant. Rwy'n gwybod bod yna ddadl wedi'i gwneud y gallai hyn annog pobl i beidio â chael yswiriant, ond taliad o £500 ydyw a gallaf sicrhau unrhyw un sy'n poeni nad yw hynny'n ddigon i dalu am eich colledion sydd heb eu hyswirio, ond mae'n help i gael pobl yn ôl ar eu traed o dan amgylchiadau eithafol y diwrnod cyntaf neu fwy allan o'u cartrefi.
Mewn amgylchiadau eithriadol o'r fath, oherwydd yr holl bwysau ar gynghorau ar hyn o bryd, bydd cyllid Llywodraeth Cymru yn talu'r holl gost gymwys o ymateb i lifogydd yn ystod cyfyngiadau haen 4 o dan amodau ein cronfa galedi bresennol ar gyfer llywodraeth leol. Mae cronfa ychwanegol o £6.5 miliwn ar gael o hyn tan 31 Mawrth i gynghorau ar gyfer y costau hynny. Mae nifer o leoedd ledled Cymru mewn sefyllfaoedd tebyg. Felly, rwy'n falch o ddweud bod honno, wrth gwrs, yn gronfa ar gyfer Cymru gyfan i bawb yr effeithiwyd arnynt.
Ar fater yr Awdurdod Glo, rydym wedi cael cyfres o drafodaethau gyda'r Awdurdod Glo a Llywodraeth y DU. Fel y dywedodd David yn gywir, mae ymchwiliadau'n cael eu cynnal gan yr Awdurdod Glo i benderfynu beth yn union a ddigwyddodd yn Sgiwen yr wythnos diwethaf, ac edrychwn ymlaen yn eiddgar at eu canfyddiadau. Ac mae'r Prif Weinidog yn cynnal uwchgynhadledd gyda Gweinidogion y DU a phartneriaid allweddol i helpu i sicrhau na chaiff digwyddiad dinistriol o'r fath ei ailadrodd, a phan gawn yr adroddiad gan yr Awdurdod Glo, byddwn yn gwybod sut i fwrw ymlaen ar hynny. Bydd honno'n uwchgynhadledd benodol ar y broblem yn Sgiwen, ond mae cyfres o sgyrsiau gyda'r Awdurdod Glo a Llywodraeth y DU yn digwydd yn sgil y ffaith nad yw'r cyfrifoldeb wedi'i ddatganoli i Gymru. Dylai'r Awdurdod Glo ysgwyddo cyfrifoldeb am ran helaeth o'r pyllau glo. Fy nghyd-Aelod, Lesley Griffiths, sydd â'r cyfrifoldeb am hynny wrth gwrs, ond rwy'n rhan o'r grŵp trafod y mae'r Prif Weinidog yn ei gynnull ar ddiogelwch pyllau glo.
Minister, the fact that it will take at least six months to rectify the cause of the blowout will mean that residents will need long-term help, particularly if there are other adverse weather events. What additional support will the Welsh Government be providing to the local authority who are already dealing with the fallout of other repercussions of the region's mining past? From landslides to flooding, homeowners in my region are being put at risk. And what discussions has the Welsh Government held with the UK Government about ensuring no other homes or lives are threatened as a result of former mining activity? Diolch.
Weinidog, bydd y ffaith y bydd yn cymryd o leiaf chwe mis i unioni'r hyn a achosodd y gorlif yn golygu y bydd angen cymorth hirdymor ar breswylwyr, yn enwedig os ceir digwyddiadau tywydd garw eraill. Pa gymorth ychwanegol y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei roi i'r awdurdod lleol sydd eisoes yn ymdrin â chanlyniadau sgil-effeithiau eraill o orffennol glofaol y rhanbarth? O dirlithriadau i lifogydd, mae perchnogion tai yn fy rhanbarth yn cael eu rhoi mewn perygl. A pha drafodaethau y mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi'u cael gyda Llywodraeth y DU ynglŷn â sicrhau nad oes unrhyw gartrefi neu fywydau eraill yn cael eu bygwth o ganlyniad i weithgarwch mwyngloddio blaenorol? Diolch.
Deputy Presiding Officer, as I just said in my answer to David Rees, we were giving £6.5 million additional to local authorities through the hardship fund to claim for the additional costs of these extreme weather events. The Skewen incident will be covered with that, except that we wait on the Coal Authority's investigation to see what else may need to be done in the longer term. We have a continuous set of discussions, as I also said in my answer to David Rees, with the Coal Authority and the UK Government, to get to the bottom of the extent of the difficulties in Wales, and to plan for the future, so we that we can ensure that all our residents are safe.
Ddirprwy Lywydd, fel rwyf newydd ei ddweud yn fy ateb i David Rees, roeddem yn rhoi £6.5 miliwn ychwanegol i awdurdodau lleol drwy'r gronfa galedi i hawlio costau ychwanegol yn sgil y digwyddiadau tywydd eithafol hyn. Bydd digwyddiad Sgiwen yn cael ei gynnwys yn hynny, ond ein bod yn aros am ymchwiliad yr Awdurdod Glo i weld beth arall y gallai fod angen ei wneud yn fwy hirdymor. Mae gennym gyfres barhaus o drafodaethau, fel y dywedais hefyd yn fy ateb i David Rees, gyda'r Awdurdod Glo a Llywodraeth y DU, i fynd at wraidd a chanfod maint yr anawsterau yng Nghymru, ac i gynllunio ar gyfer y dyfodol, fel y gallwn sicrhau bod ein holl drigolion yn ddiogel.
Can I just associate myself with David Rees's remarks and the thanks that he conveyed? I think we've all been amazed by the response to this, not least by the community. Anyone who's been through a flooding experience knows how distressing it is, and when you've got all this dirty water, it genuinely is heartbreaking. This local authority, of course, has had to deal with the Aberdulais floods last year, and two years ago. They've had lots to deal with, actually, in recent years despite cuts to the environment budget in Cardiff Bay. But while immediate relief is obviously needed now in Skewen, I wonder if you can tell me either what legislative powers you've got, or a bit more about those conversations you're having with the UK Government about ensuring that landowners whose infrastructure fails, shall we say, because this is not just about the Coal Authority; we're talking about owners of land where there are waterways, for example, and what can be done to make sure that they not only recognise their responsibility and liabilities, but that they're suitably financed in order to meet those liabilities? Is there anything that you can tell us at this stage that can give us some reassurance on that point? I'm very pleased by your answer that Neath Port Talbot will be getting emergency funds to cover the immediate costs of the Skewen situation.
A gaf fi ategu sylwadau David Rees a'r diolch a roddodd? Rwy'n credu ein bod i gyd wedi rhyfeddu at yr ymateb i hyn, yn enwedig gan y gymuned. Mae unrhyw un sydd wedi bod drwy brofiad o lifogydd yn gwybod pa mor ofidus ydyw, a phan fydd gennych gymaint o ddŵr brwnt, mae'n wirioneddol dorcalonnus. Mae'r awdurdod lleol hwn, wrth gwrs, wedi gorfod ymdrin â llifogydd Aberdulais y llynedd, a ddwy flynedd yn ôl. Maent wedi gorfod ymdrin â llawer yn ystod y blynyddoedd diwethaf er gwaethaf toriadau i gyllideb yr amgylchedd ym Mae Caerdydd. Ond er bod angen cymorth ar unwaith yn Sgiwen nawr wrth gwrs, tybed a allwch ddweud wrthyf naill ai pa bwerau deddfwriaethol sydd gennych, neu ychydig mwy am y sgyrsiau rydych yn eu cael gyda Llywodraeth y DU ynglŷn â sicrhau bod tirfeddianwyr y mae eu seilwaith yn methu, ddywedwn ni, oherwydd nid mater sy'n ymwneud â'r Awdurdod Glo yn unig yw hwn; rydym yn sôn am berchnogion tir lle ceir dyfrffyrdd er enghraifft, a beth y gellir ei wneud i sicrhau eu bod nid yn unig yn cydnabod eu cyfrifoldeb a'u rhwymedigaethau, ond eu bod yn cael eu hariannu'n briodol i gyflawni'r rhwymedigaethau hynny? A oes unrhyw beth y gallwch ei ddweud wrthym ar hyn o bryd a all roi rhywfaint o sicrwydd inni ar y pwynt hwnnw? Rwy'n falch iawn o glywed y bydd Castell-nedd Port Talbot yn cael arian brys i dalu costau uniongyrchol y sefyllfa yn Sgiwen.
Well, as I said, the fund is open to all authorities who have residents affected by extreme weather events. The one in Skewen, of course, is a particular issue caused by the collapse of mine workings, and, as we've already said several times, the Coal Authority is currently investigating the exact cause of that, but no doubt, it was exacerbated by the particularly high levels of rainfall.
We've been very well served by the good partnership between the Welsh Government and local authorities right through the pandemic, but the idea that their funding is restricted by Cardiff Bay after 10 years of Conservative austerity is a real piece of chutzpah that I think the Conservatives really need to get over, because the 10 years of the cutback of the so-called back office services that people feel are unnecessary turn out to be the very planning officers and environmental health officers who risk their lives going out in these weathers to make sure that people are well served. So, I'm really not putting up with that kind of remark.
We've had a series of extensive discussions with the Coal Authority and the UK Government. When the mining industry closed in the early 1990s, the Coal Industry Act 1994 transferred responsibility for disused mines to the UK Government. At the same time, the Coal Authority was established and given the responsibility for managing the effects of past coal mining and dealing with the myriad of environment and safety-related issues that are a legacy of the coal-mining industry. And although the response by the emergency services, the local authority and the local community has been absolutely exemplary, we do need the UK Government and the Coal Authority to step up to the plate of their responsibilities. As I said, the First Minister is convening a summit to make sure that this happens in this particular instance, but we have had a series of ongoing conversations with the Coal Authority and the UK Government about the need for proper funding for the Coal Authority in Wales, which clearly cannot be part of any devolved Government settlement given the extensive nature of it, and the fact that it's not devolved to the UK. My colleague, Lesley Griffiths, leads those discussions in combination with the First Minister, and I'm sure there will be opportunities for Members to ask her more extensively about that in the days to come.
Wel, fel y dywedais, mae'r gronfa'n agored i bob awdurdod sydd â phreswylwyr yr effeithiwyd arnynt gan dywydd eithafol. Mae'r un yn Sgiwen, wrth gwrs, yn fater penodol a achosir gan gwymp mwynfeydd, ac fel rydym eisoes wedi dweud sawl gwaith, mae'r Awdurdod Glo ar hyn o bryd yn ymchwilio i union achos hynny, ond mae'n siŵr ei fod wedi'i waethygu gan lefelau glawiad arbennig o uchel.
Rydym wedi cael ein gwasanaethu'n dda iawn gan y bartneriaeth dda rhwng Llywodraeth Cymru ac awdurdodau lleol drwy gydol y pandemig, ond mae'r syniad fod eu cyllid yn cael ei gyfyngu gan Fae Caerdydd ar ôl 10 mlynedd o gyni'r Ceidwadwyr yn hyfdra y credaf fod gwir angen i'r Ceidwadwyr roi'r gorau iddo, oherwydd gwelir mai'r hyn y mae 10 mlynedd o doriadau i wasanaethau swyddfa gefn fel y'u gelwir y teimla pobl eu bod yn ddiangen yn ei olygu mewn gwirionedd yw'r union swyddogion cynllunio a swyddogion iechyd yr amgylchedd sy'n peryglu eu bywydau drwy fynd allan yn y math hwn o dywydd i sicrhau bod pobl yn cael eu gwasanaethu'n dda. Felly, nid wyf yn mynd i oddef y math hwnnw o sylw.
Rydym wedi cael cyfres o drafodaethau helaeth gyda'r Awdurdod Glo a Llywodraeth y DU. Pan gaeodd y diwydiant glo ar ddechrau'r 1990au, trosglwyddodd Deddf y Diwydiant Glo 1994 gyfrifoldeb am byllau segur i Lywodraeth y DU. Ar yr un pryd, sefydlwyd yr Awdurdod Glo i ysgwyddo cyfrifoldeb am reoli effeithiau hen weithfeydd glo ac i ymdrin â'r llu o broblemau'n ymwneud â'r amgylchedd a diogelwch a etifeddwyd yn sgil y diwydiant glo. Ac er bod ymateb y gwasanaethau brys, yr awdurdod lleol a'r gymuned leol wedi bod yn gwbl ragorol, mae angen i Lywodraeth y DU a'r Awdurdod Glo ysgwyddo eu cyfrifoldebau. Fel y dywedais, mae'r Prif Weinidog yn cynnull uwchgynhadledd i sicrhau bod hyn yn digwydd yn yr achos penodol hwn, ond rydym wedi cael cyfres o sgyrsiau parhaus gyda'r Awdurdod Glo a Llywodraeth y DU am yr angen am gyllid priodol i'r Awdurdod Glo yng Nghymru, ac mae'n amlwg na all hynny fod yn rhan o unrhyw setliad i lywodraeth ddatganoledig o ystyried pa mor helaeth yw'r gwaith, a'r ffaith nad yw wedi'i ddatganoli i'r DU. Mae fy nghyd-Aelod, Lesley Griffiths, yn arwain y trafodaethau hynny ar y cyd â'r Prif Weinidog, ac rwy'n siŵr y bydd cyfleoedd i Aelodau ei holi'n fwy eang am hynny yn y dyddiau i ddod.
Thank you very much, Minister. Item 4 on our agenda this afternoon is the 90-second statement. I call on David Melding.
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Weinidog. Eitem 4 ar ein hagenda y prynhawn yma yw'r datganiad 90 eiliad. Galwaf ar David Melding.
Today is Holocaust Memorial Day. This year, we are called to be a light in the darkness, and at 8 p.m. to light a candle and display it carefully. The Senedd will be lit purple to mark the memorial. To be a light in the darkness, we are called to remember those who were murdered for who they were and stand against hatred and prejudice today. As a Senedd, it is our duty to ensure that all people in Wales recognise the shared responsibility we have to prevent genocide in the future. We must be a light in the darkness, in public, in the workplace, at home and online.
On this day in 1945, Primo Levi wrote the following, while at Auschwitz:
'Dawn. On the floor, the shameful wreck of skin and bones, the Sómogyi thing. There are more urgent tasks: we cannot wash ourselves, so that we dare not touch him until we have cooked and eaten.... The Russians arrived while Charles and I were carrying Sómogyi a little distance outside. He was very light. We overturned the stretcher on the grey snow.
'Charles took off his beret. I regretted not having a beret.'
Dirprwy Lywydd, we are all called to be a light in the darkness.
Heddiw yw Diwrnod Cofio'r Holocost. Eleni, gelwir arnom i fod yn oleuni yn y tywyllwch, ac am 8 p.m. i oleuo cannwyll a'i harddangos yn ofalus. Bydd y Senedd yn cael ei goleuo'n borffor i nodi'r cofio. I fod yn oleuni yn y tywyllwch, cawn ein galw i gofio'r rhai a lofruddiwyd am bwy oeddent a sefyll yn erbyn casineb a rhagfarn heddiw. Fel Senedd, ein dyletswydd ni yw sicrhau bod pawb yng Nghymru yn cydnabod y cyfrifoldeb a rannwn i atal hil-laddiad yn y dyfodol. Rhaid inni fod yn oleuni yn y tywyllwch, yn gyhoeddus, yn y gweithle, gartref ac ar-lein.
Ar y diwrnod hwn yn 1945, ysgrifennodd Primo Levi y canlynol tra oedd yn Auschwitz:
Gwawr. Ar y llawr, llanastr cywilyddus o groen ac esgyrn, y peth Sómogyi. Mae yna dasgau mwy pwysig: ni allwn olchi ein hunain, fel na feiddiwn ei gyffwrdd nes ein bod wedi coginio a bwyta.... Cyrhaeddodd y Rwsiaid tra bo Charles a finnau'n cario Sómogyi ychydig bellter y tu allan. Roedd e'n ysgafn iawn. Fe wnaethom droi'r stretsier ar yr eira llwyd.
Tynnodd Charles ei feret. Roeddwn yn difaru nad oedd gennyf feret.
Ddirprwy Lywydd, gelwir arnom oll i fod yn oleuni yn y tywyllwch.
Thank you.
Diolch.
Item 5 on our agenda is the appointment of an acting Public Services Ombudsman for Wales, and I call on the Chair of the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee to move that motion—John Griffiths.
Eitem 5 ar ein hagenda yw penodi Ombwdsmon Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus dros dro i Gymru, a galwaf ar Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Cydraddoldeb, Llywodraeth Leol a Chymunedau i wneud y cynnig hwnnw—John Griffiths.
Cynnig NDM7559 John Griffiths
Cynnig bod y Senedd, yn unol â pharagraff 4 (1) o Atodlen 1 i Ddeddf Ombwdsmon Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus (Cymru) 2019 a Rheol Sefydlog 10.5, yn enwebu Nick Bennett i’w benodi gan Ei Mawrhydi fel Ombwdsmon Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus Cymru Dros Dro ar gyfer tymor sy’n dechrau ar 1 Awst 2021 ac yn dod i ben ar 31 Mawrth 2022.
Motion NDM7559 John Griffiths
To propose that the Senedd in accordance with paragraph 4 (1) of Schedule 1 to the Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Act 2019 and Standing Order 10.5 nominates Nick Bennett for appointment by Her Majesty as Acting Public Services Ombudsman for Wales for a term starting on 1 August 2021 and ending on 31 March 2022.
Cynigiwyd y cynnig.
Motion moved.
Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. I am pleased to move this motion and recommend to the Senedd that Nick Bennett is appointed as the acting Public Services Ombudsman for Wales for an eight-month term.
The Public Services Ombudsman for Wales is an important public role. The appointment to the post is significant. In the normal course of these matters, the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee would have held a process to recruit a successor for the full seven-year term. Unfortunately, following the initial lockdown in March last year, the committee responded to the pandemic by prioritising work on the effects of the pandemic, of the crisis, on the committee's remit, and that subsequently meant that factors around a full recruitment process would be very precarious in terms of timings and due process. Therefore, we carefully considered the range of options available to us as a committee before coming to a decision. We unanimously believe that this acting appointment was the most pragmatic and prudent approach in the current situation.
As the short report that we published last week outlined, there was a real and significant risk that, if we had embarked on recruitment for the substantive post, we would have been unable to complete it before the scheduled date for dissolution in April. This could have led to the very real possibility of there not being someone in post to replace Nick Bennett when his substantive term of office ends in July of this year. As the committee that has been responsible for scrutinising the current public services ombudsman for much of his term, we have been satisfied with his and his office's performance. Our first preference was therefore to approach Nick Bennett to see if he was in a position to continue in post for a time-limited period. We were pleased that he was able and willing to do so. We also believe this will provide some stability, as the ombudsman's office, along with all other organisations, continues to deal with the challenges of the pandemic. We hope that by the time the sixth Senedd undertakes the recruitment of the next substantive postholder we will be starting to move out of the immediate crisis.
I therefore call on the Senedd to support this motion and appoint Nick Bennett as acting Public Services Ombudsman for Wales for a limited eight-month term, ending in March 2022. Diolch yn fawr.
Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n falch o wneud y cynnig hwn ac o argymell i'r Senedd y dylid penodi Nick Bennett yn Ombwdsmon Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus Cymru dros dro am gyfnod o wyth mis.
Mae Ombwdsmon Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus Cymru yn rôl gyhoeddus bwysig. Mae'r penodiad i'r swydd yn arwyddocaol. Yn y materion hyn fel arfer byddai'r Pwyllgor Cydraddoldeb, Llywodraeth Leol a Chymunedau wedi cynnal proses i recriwtio olynydd am y tymor llawn o saith mlynedd. Yn anffodus, yn dilyn y cyfyngiadau symud cychwynnol ym mis Mawrth y llynedd, ymatebodd y pwyllgor i'r pandemig drwy flaenoriaethu gwaith ar effeithiau'r pandemig, yr argyfwng, yng nghylch gwaith y pwyllgor, ac roedd hynny wedyn yn golygu y byddai ffactorau sy'n ymwneud â phroses recriwtio lawn yn ansicr iawn mewn perthynas ag amseru a'r drefn briodol. Felly, gwnaethom ystyried yn ofalus yr ystod o opsiynau a oedd ar gael inni fel pwyllgor cyn dod i benderfyniad. Credwn yn unfrydol mai'r penodiad dros dro hwn oedd y dull mwyaf pragmatig a darbodus yn y sefyllfa bresennol.
Fel yr amlinellodd yr adroddiad byr a gyhoeddwyd gennym yr wythnos diwethaf, roedd perygl gwirioneddol a sylweddol, pe baem wedi dechrau recriwtio ar gyfer swydd barhaol, na fyddem wedi gallu cwblhau'r broses cyn y dyddiad a drefnwyd ar gyfer diddymu ym mis Ebrill. Gallai hyn fod wedi arwain at y posibilrwydd gwirioneddol na fyddai neb yn y swydd i gymryd lle Nick Bennett pan ddaw ei dymor parhaol yn y swydd i ben ym mis Gorffennaf eleni. Fel y pwyllgor sydd wedi bod yn gyfrifol am graffu ar yr ombwdsmon gwasanaethau cyhoeddus presennol am y rhan fwyaf o'i dymor, rydym wedi bod yn fodlon ar ei berfformiad ef a'i swyddfa. Ein dewis cyntaf felly oedd cysylltu â Nick Bennett i weld a oedd mewn sefyllfa i barhau yn ei swydd am gyfnod cyfyngedig. Roeddem yn falch ei fod wedi gallu ac yn barod i wneud hynny. Credwn hefyd y bydd hyn yn cynnig rhywfaint o sefydlogrwydd, gan fod swyddfa'r ombwdsmon, ynghyd â phob sefydliad arall, yn parhau i ymdrin â heriau'r pandemig. Erbyn i'r chweched Senedd recriwtio'r penodiad parhaol nesaf i'r swydd gobeithiwn y byddwn yn dechrau cefnu ar yr argyfwng uniongyrchol.
Galwaf felly ar y Senedd i gefnogi'r cynnig hwn a phenodi Nick Bennett yn Ombwdsmon Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus Cymru dros dro am gyfnod cyfyngedig o wyth mis, gan ddod i ben ym mis Mawrth 2022. Diolch yn fawr.
Thank you. The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I see an objection, therefore we will vote under voting time.
Diolch. Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn y cynnig. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Rwy'n gweld gwrthwynebiad, felly fe bleidleisiwn ar y cynnig yn ystod y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Gohiriwyd y pleidleisio tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Voting deferred until voting time.
Item 6 on our agenda is the Member debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv) on care and support for stroke survivors, and I call on Dai Lloyd to move the motion.
Eitem 6 ar ein hagenda yw'r ddadl Aelodau o dan Reol Sefydlog 11.21(iv) ar ofal a chymorth ar gyfer goroeswyr strôc, a galwaf ar Dai Lloyd i wneud y cynnig.
Cynnig NDM7463 Dai Lloyd, Neil Hamilton, Huw Irranca-Davies, Adam Price, Andrew Davies, Nicholas Ramsay
Cefnogwyd gan Caroline Jones, Llyr Gruffydd, Mark Isherwood, Neil McEvoy
Cynnig bod y Senedd:
1. Yn nodi bod y Gymdeithas Strôc wedi cyhoeddi ymchwil i brofiadau goroeswyr strôc yn ystod pandemig COVID-19, a ganfu fod goroeswyr strôc a gofalwyr yn ei chael hi'n anodd cael gafael ar y gwasanaethau a'r cymorth sydd eu hangen arnynt.
2. Yn nodi bod derbyniadau mewn unedau strôc acíwt yng Nghymru wedi gostwng 12 y cant rhwng mis Ebrill a mis Mehefin 2020 o gymharu â 2019.
3. Yn credu, er gwaethaf pandemig COVID-19, y dylai goroeswyr strôc allu parhau i gael gafael ar y gofal acíwt, y gwasanaethau adsefydlu, y driniaeth iechyd meddwl a'r cymorth sydd eu hangen arnynt i adfer cystal â phosibl.
4. Yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i sicrhau bod byrddau iechyd lleol yng Nghymru yn parhau â'u gwaith i wella gofal strôc yng Nghymru ac nad ydynt yn caniatáu i COVID-19 ohirio newidiadau strwythurol y mae mawr eu hangen.
5. Yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i gyhoeddi cynllun cenedlaethol newydd ar gyfer gwasanaethau strôc pan ddaw'r cynllun cyflawni presennol ar gyfer strôc i ben er mwyn sicrhau bod gofal i'r rhai y mae strôc yn effeithio arnynt yn cael ei gryfhau ledled Cymru yn y dyfodol.
Motion NDM7463 Dai Lloyd, Neil Hamilton, Huw Irranca-Davies, Adam Price, Andrew Davies, Nicholas Ramsay
Supported by Caroline Jones, Llyr Gruffydd, Mark Isherwood, Neil McEvoy
To propose that the Senedd:
1. Notes the publication of research by the Stroke Association into the experiences of stroke survivors during the COVID-19 pandemic, which found that stroke survivors and carers are struggling to access the services and support they need.
2. Notes that admissions at acute stroke units in Wales fell 12 per cent between April and June 2020 compared to 2019.
3. Believes that despite the COVID-19 pandemic, stroke survivors should be able to continue to access the acute care, rehabilitation, mental health treatment and support they need to make the best possible recovery.
4. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure local health boards in Wales continue their work to improve stroke care in Wales and do not allow COVID-19 to delay much needed structural changes.
5. Calls on the Welsh Government to publish a new national plan for stroke services upon the expiration of the current Stroke Delivery Plan to ensure care for those affected by stroke is strengthened throughout Wales in the future.
Cynigiwyd y cynnig.
Motion moved.
Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. As chair of the cross-party group on stroke, I am pleased to introduce this motion on how COVID-19 has impacted on the 70,000 stroke survivors in Wales and their carers. I am grateful for the support of Members across my Senedd screen and look forward to their input, as, in the time allotted, I cannot possibly cover all bases.
Now, the cross-party group on stroke meets regularly and I'm regularly astonished by the number of people attending and the breadth and excellence of experience of all attendees, be they survivors of stroke or the foremost consultants in Wales. And the Stroke Association not only provides huge support to the cross-party group, but, more importantly, invaluable work with survivors of stroke themselves, as well as carrying out the research that outlined the huge impact of COVID on stroke survivors and their carers. The situation is desperate and there is huge suffering. The figures are there, and doubtless will be quoted by Members. Their truly heroic work goes on in our communities and our hospitals, and epic tales of heroism, of pioneering and inventive medical genius regularly peppered our cross-party group review into various aspects of stroke delivery over the last couple of years. Thank you to all who contribute to that in-depth review.
Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Fel cadeirydd y grŵp trawsbleidiol ar strôc, mae'n bleser gennyf gyflwyno'r cynnig hwn ar y modd y mae COVID-19 wedi effeithio ar y 70,000 o oroeswyr strôc yng Nghymru a'u gofalwyr. Rwy'n ddiolchgar am gefnogaeth Aelodau ar draws fy sgrin Senedd ac edrychaf ymlaen at eu cyfraniad, gan na allaf gynnwys pob elfen yn yr amser a roddwyd.
Nawr, mae'r grŵp trawsbleidiol ar strôc yn cyfarfod yn rheolaidd ac rwy'n synnu'n aml at nifer y bobl sy'n ei fynychu ac ehangder a rhagoriaeth profiad pawb sy'n bresennol, boed yn bobl sydd wedi goroesi strôc neu'n feddygon ymgynghorol mwyaf blaenllaw Cymru. Ac mae'r Gymdeithas Strôc nid yn unig yn rhoi cefnogaeth enfawr i'r grŵp trawsbleidiol, ond yn bwysicach, mae'n gwneud gwaith amhrisiadwy gyda goroeswyr strôc eu hunain, yn ogystal â chynnal yr ymchwil a amlinellodd effaith enfawr COVID ar oroeswyr strôc a'u gofalwyr. Mae'r sefyllfa'n enbyd a'r dioddefaint yn enfawr. Mae'r ffigurau yno, ac mae'n siŵr y cânt eu dyfynnu gan yr Aelodau. Mae eu gwaith gwirioneddol arwrol yn digwydd yn ein cymunedau a'n hysbytai, a drwodd a thro, roedd adolygiad ein grŵp trawsbleidiol dros y flwyddyn neu ddwy ddiwethaf i agweddau amrywiol ar y ddarpariaeth strôc yn frith o hanesion epig am arwyr, am athrylith feddygol arloesol a dyfeisgar. Diolch i bawb sy'n cyfrannu at yr adolygiad manwl hwnnw.
Rydym ni wedi cael ein hysbrydoli gan brofiad y sawl sy'n goroesi strôc, gan eu hanesion dirdynnol a dioddefaint a thor calon, a chwilio am wasanaeth, a'r pwysau enbydus ar ofalwyr, a'r system gofal dan ormes, a'r nyrsys a'r meddygon yn mynd y filltir ychwanegol, a thriniaethau anhygoel fel thrombolysis a thrombectomi, ac wedyn daeth COVID, a'r heriau sylweddol o gael gafael mewn gwasanaeth mewn pandemig pan fo popeth wedi cau lawr, a cheisio cael gafael ar ffisiotherapi, therapi galwedigaethol a therapi lleferydd i wella o'r strôc tra bod y wlad mewn cyfnod cloëdig hirfaith. Mae cefnogaeth rithiol wedi cynyddu yn ystod y pandemig, ond mae'r gwasanaethau hybu adferiad strôc a chefnogaeth iechyd meddwl wedi dioddef yn enbyd yn wyneb COVID.
We've been inspired by the experiences of those surviving stroke, by their heart-rending tales, their suffering, the heartbreak, seeking services, and the huge pressure on carers, and the nurses and doctors going that extra mile, and incredible treatments such as thrombolysis and thrombectomy being provided, and then COVID struck, and the significant challenges of accessing services during a pandemic when everything is closed, and trying to get physiotherapy, speech and language therapy so that you can recover whilst the nation is in lengthy lockdown. Virtual support has increased during the pandemic, but stroke rehabilitation services and mental health support have suffered terribly in the face of COVID.
Wales needed a new stroke delivery plan before COVID; after all, early treatment is key to recovery. COVID has stretched already-struggling stroke services as it laid bare the fragile state of health and social care services, and mercilessly flayed our phenomenal staff and carers who are naturally programmed to go over and above the call of duty for stroke and so many other conditions.
I know the Welsh Government has been discussing successor arrangements to the stroke delivery plan. Such arrangements must address the huge present challenge of care for stroke, as well as progressing the tremendous medical advances that Wales must embrace. The new stroke delivery plan must include progress on hyper acute stroke units—HASUs—and developing the expertise of thrombectomy on an all-Wales 24/7 level.
Stroke costs over £1 billion in Wales today. That will rise to £2.8 billion per year by 2035. Wales has exciting opportunities under the new and enlightened leadership of the new national clinical lead for stroke, Dr Shakeel Ahmad. Thrombectomy is a marvellous invention: hooking out a clot from an artery in the brain to transform paralysis back into normal function—truly reflective of Lazarus's biblical experience, absolutely amazing, and we do a little of it in Wales now, but we need to do far more of it, and we need that comprehensive network of hyper acute stroke units—HASUs—dotted around Wales to do this, to clearly transform acute stroke care. We can do it.
Finally, nearly 40 years in health has taught me there is always more than one crisis at any one given time. I salute the heroic efforts of our staff. In the midst of this huge pandemic, Government cannot forget the future of stroke services: it must implement the cross-party group recommendations. Please support the motion. Diolch yn fawr.
Roedd angen cynllun cyflawni newydd ar Gymru ar gyfer strôc cyn COVID; wedi'r cyfan, mae triniaeth gynnar yn allweddol i adferiad. Mae COVID wedi rhoi pwysau ychwanegol ar wasanaethau strôc a oedd eisoes yn ei chael hi'n anodd wrth iddo ddatgelu cyflwr bregus y gwasanaethau iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol, a blingo'n ddidrugaredd ein staff a'n gofalwyr rhyfeddol sydd wedi'u rhaglennu'n reddfol i fynd y tu hwnt i'r galw dros gleifion strôc a chymaint o gyflyrau eraill.
Rwy'n gwybod bod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi bod yn trafod trefniadau i olynu'r cynllun cyflawni ar gyfer strôc. Rhaid i drefniadau o'r fath oresgyn yr her enfawr bresennol o ofalu am gleifion strôc, yn ogystal â bwrw ymlaen â'r datblygiadau meddygol aruthrol y mae'n rhaid i Gymru eu mabwysiadu. Rhaid i'r cynllun cyflawni newydd ar gyfer strôc gynnwys cynnydd ar unedau strôc hyper-acíwt—HASU—a datblygu arbenigedd thrombectomi 24/7 ar lefel Cymru gyfan.
Mae strôc yn costio dros £1 biliwn yng Nghymru heddiw. Bydd hynny'n codi i £2.8 biliwn y flwyddyn erbyn 2035. Mae gan Gymru gyfleoedd cyffrous o dan arweinyddiaeth newydd a goleuedig yr arweinydd clinigol cenedlaethol newydd ar gyfer strôc, Dr Shakeel Ahmad. Mae thrombectomi yn ddatblygiad gwych: bachu clot allan o wythïen yn yr ymennydd i drawsnewid parlys ac adfer swyddogaeth arferol—rhywbeth sy'n atgoffa o brofiad beiblaidd Lazarus, hollol ryfeddol, ac rydym yn gwneud ychydig ohono yng Nghymru nawr, ond mae angen inni wneud llawer mwy ohono, ac mae arnom angen rhwydwaith cynhwysfawr o unedau strôc hyper-acíwt ledled Cymru i wneud hyn, i sicrhau trawsnewid eglur mewn gofal strôc acíwt. Gallwn ei wneud.
Yn olaf, mae bron i 40 mlynedd ym maes iechyd wedi fy nysgu bod yna bob amser fwy nag un argyfwng ar unrhyw un adeg benodol. Rwy'n canmol ymdrechion arwrol ein staff. Ynghanol y pandemig enfawr hwn, ni all y Llywodraeth anghofio dyfodol gwasanaethau strôc: rhaid iddi weithredu argymhellion y grŵp trawsbleidiol. Cefnogwch y cynnig os gwelwch yn dda. Diolch yn fawr.
The impact of stroke can be considerable, as Dr Dai Lloyd has just explained, not just for the patient, but also for their family, in ways that can be challenging and terrifying, particularly—as has just been said—at this time of the pandemic and lockdown. Many people will experience a range of consequences after having a stroke: the physical challenges of fatigue and paralysis in those cases where mobility is impaired, cognitive changes affecting memory, communication and concentration, and the psychological impact of depression and anxiety. Many recover, but others don't, and, as we know, the impact is dependent on the range of consequences that an individual experiences, and for how long those challenges will remain.
Colleagues will also talk about the range of care and support needed for those who have a stroke, and rightly so. But one of the areas of this debate that also causes me concern is the level of support for those who find themselves quite unexpectedly caring for a loved one who's had a stroke, particularly given the current restrictions and the current difficulties of accessing support, including language therapy. It's hard to imagine the sense of shock when a family member has a stroke, the feeling of panic and worry as someone is admitted to hospital and having to face a future life with a potentially different set of expectations. Suddenly being thrust into the role of carer, having to manage the range of consequences that that loved one will experience, plus potentially life-changing implications for the family, financial concerns—all of these affect families of sufferers of strokes. For family members it can be truly daunting, which is why the support offered by groups like Chepstow stroke club in my constituency is so important for supporting families. How many people in Wales are now caring for someone living with the consequences of stroke, and how do we support the needs of those without whom that caring role could not be provided? Are we doing well enough in providing all that we can to those who care for a loved one, and, if not, why not?
Whilst I'm very supportive of this debate today to allow us to explore the support and care for those who experience strokes, we should be mindful that it is one of those big public health indicators that ought to concern us. There are a number of factors that contribute to a stroke, as has been cited—high blood pressure is one of them. Often that's linked to lifestyle choices, and we know, during the pandemic at the moment, the importance of people exercising and making sure that they're keeping well.
In conclusion, Dirprwy Lywydd, we have to get better at radically responding to this public health challenge. If COVID has taught us anything, it's that we need to take the past 10 months as a wake-up call. Public health has to be a bigger focus in the next Welsh parliamentary term. People's lifestyle choices aren't just freedoms without consequence—we're continuing to suffer the impact of the decisions we take about our own health, and, sadly, for many, a stroke is that consequence. Let's make sure that we give sufferers of stroke and their families the support they need at this time as we, hopefully, come out of the pandemic.
Gall effaith strôc fod yn sylweddol, fel y mae Dr Dai Lloyd newydd egluro, nid yn unig i'r claf, ond hefyd i'w teulu, mewn ffyrdd a all fod yn heriol ac yn frawychus, yn enwedig—fel sydd newydd gael ei ddweud—ar yr adeg hon yn y pandemig a'r cyfyngiadau symud. Bydd llawer o bobl yn profi amrywiaeth o ganlyniadau ar ôl cael strôc: heriau corfforol blinder a pharlys yn yr achosion lle ceir amharu ar symudedd, newidiadau gwybyddol sy'n effeithio ar gof, cyfathrebu a chanolbwyntio, ac effaith seicolegol iselder a phryder. Mae llawer yn gwella, ond nid pawb, ac fel y gwyddom, mae'r effaith yn dibynnu ar yr ystod o ganlyniadau y mae unigolyn yn eu profi, ac am ba hyd y bydd yr heriau hynny'n parhau.
Bydd cyd-Aelodau hefyd yn siarad am yr ystod o ofal a chymorth sydd eu hangen ar y rhai sy'n cael strôc, a hynny'n gwbl briodol. Ond un o feysydd y ddadl hon sydd hefyd yn peri pryder i mi yw lefel y gefnogaeth i'r rhai sy'n wynebu sefyllfa gwbl annisgwyl o orfod gofalu am rywun annwyl sydd wedi cael strôc, yn enwedig o ystyried y cyfyngiadau presennol a'r anawsterau presennol i gael gafael ar gymorth, gan gynnwys therapi iaith. Mae'n anodd dychmygu'r ymdeimlad o sioc pan fydd aelod o'r teulu'n cael strôc, y teimlad o banig a phryder wrth i rywun fynd i'r ysbyty a gorfod wynebu bywyd yn y dyfodol gyda set o ddisgwyliadau a allai fod yn wahanol. Mae cael eich gwthio'n sydyn i rôl gofalwr, gorfod rheoli'r ystod o ganlyniadau y bydd anwyliaid yn eu profi, ynghyd â goblygiadau a allai newid bywydau'r teulu, pryderon ariannol—mae'r rhain i gyd yn effeithio ar deuluoedd dioddefwyr strôc. I aelodau o'r teulu gall fod yn wirioneddol frawychus, a dyna pam y mae'r gefnogaeth a gynigir gan grwpiau fel clwb strôc Cas-gwent yn fy etholaeth mor bwysig i gefnogi teuluoedd. Faint o bobl yng Nghymru sydd bellach yn gofalu am rywun sy'n byw gyda chanlyniadau strôc, a sut y cefnogwn anghenion y rhai na ellid darparu'r rôl ofalu honno hebddynt? A ydym yn darparu popeth a allwn yn ddigon da i'r rheini sy'n gofalu am rywun annwyl, ac os nad ydym, pam ddim?
Er fy mod yn gefnogol iawn i'r ddadl hon heddiw i'n galluogi i archwilio'r cymorth a'r gofal i'r rhai sy'n cael strôc, dylem gofio ei fod yn un o'r dangosyddion iechyd cyhoeddus mawr a ddylai beri pryder i ni. Mae nifer o ffactorau'n cyfrannu at strôc, fel y nodwyd—mae pwysedd gwaed uchel yn un ohonynt. Yn aml, mae hynny'n gysylltiedig â dewisiadau ynghylch ffordd o fyw, ac yn ystod y pandemig ar hyn o bryd, rydym yn gwybod am bwysigrwydd ymarfer corff i bobl a sicrhau eu bod yn cadw'n iach.
I gloi, Ddirprwy Lywydd, rhaid inni wella ein hymateb i'r her iechyd cyhoeddus hon yn sylweddol. Os yw COVID wedi dysgu unrhyw beth inni, mae angen inni ddysgu gwersi o'r 10 mis diwethaf. Rhaid i iechyd y cyhoedd fod yn fwy o ffocws yn nhymor seneddol nesaf Cymru. Nid rhyddid heb ganlyniadau yw dewisiadau pobl ynglŷn â'u ffordd o fyw—rydym yn parhau i ddioddef effaith y penderfyniadau a wnawn am ein hiechyd ein hunain, ac yn anffodus, i lawer, strôc yw'r canlyniad hwnnw. Gadewch inni sicrhau ein bod yn darparu'r cymorth angenrheidiol i ddioddefwyr strôc a'u teuluoedd nawr wrth inni ddechrau cefnu ar y pandemig, gobeithio.
It's a pleasure to follow on from Nick and from Dai, and from the work of the cross-party group this year, who have worked with the support of the Stroke Association, providing the backbone of the secretariat, to go out and listen to people who themselves have experienced stroke during the pandemic, but also their family, their friends, their carers and their loved ones as well. It has been tough, and the statistics show how tough it will be, and I'll turn to them in a moment. But what it clearly shows, as both Dai and Nick and others will say as well, in following me, is that we need now that refreshed new stroke delivery plan, because, even before now, even before the pandemic, we didn't have universally good, universally strong provision of stroke support and care services, let alone those hyper acute stroke units across Wales. We hadn't seen the progress that we wanted to see, so, if the pandemic has done anything, it has shown even more acutely the need to progress on these measures. We haven't seen as much progress as we wanted to, and I think, in bringing forward a new national plan for stroke, which we so much need—a delivery plan—we need those hyper acute stroke units to be right at the forefront of that.
Let me put some of the facts that we found through the survey that we did of people experiencing stroke. Sixty-five per cent of stroke survivors in Wales told the Stroke Association they had received less care and support during the pandemic. It showed as well that, despite 50 per cent—half of stroke survivors—having therapy appointments cancelled, only less than a quarter went on to receive therapy over the phone or online. Now, I am grateful, I have to say, for having a brilliant Stroke Association in my area who, through the years, have been tremendously good at providing support and signposting support for local people in the Bridgend area, but look at what has happened during the pandemic. Not only is that support more threadbare, but the ability as well of those Stroke Association support services to signpost as well has been lessened as well. And the mental health impacts: nearly 70 per cent, seven out of 10, of those surveyed are quite anxious or depressed, and nearly 57 per cent of carers felt overwhelmed or unable to cope.
So, I think the message is very clear: services were stretched already; those hyper acute units, we haven't seen the progress that we wanted to see; the therapy services that were not universally consistent and good right across Wales. So, if anything now, on the back of the CPG's work, on the back of the Stroke Association's work and on the back of this pandemic, we call on Government as a cross-party group to put a new urgency behind this work, and for local health boards to actually take forward their work on hyper acute units as well, and support services. Diolch yn fawr iawn, Dirprwy Lywydd.
Mae'n bleser dilyn Nick a Dai, a gwaith y grŵp trawsbleidiol eleni, sydd wedi gweithio gyda chymorth y Gymdeithas Strôc, a ddarparodd y gefnogaeth i'r ysgrifenyddiaeth, i fynd allan a gwrando ar bobl sydd eu hunain wedi cael strôc yn ystod y pandemig, ond hefyd eu teuluoedd, eu ffrindiau, eu gofalwyr a'u hanwyliaid hefyd. Mae wedi bod yn anodd, ac mae'r ystadegau'n dangos pa mor anodd y bydd, ac fe drof atynt mewn munud. Ond yr hyn y mae'n ei ddangos yn glir, fel y bydd Dai a Nick ac eraill yn ei ddweud hefyd, wrth fy nilyn, yw bod arnom angen y cynllun cyflawni newydd hwnnw ar gyfer strôc yn awr, oherwydd, hyd yn oed cyn y pandemig, nid oedd gennym ddarpariaeth a oedd yn dda ac yn gryf drwyddi draw o wasanaethau cymorth a gofal strôc, heb sôn am unedau strôc hyper-acíwt ledled Cymru. Nid oeddem yn gweld y cynnydd roeddem am ei weld, felly, os yw'r pandemig wedi gwneud unrhyw beth, mae wedi dangos hyd yn oed yn fwy clir yr angen i symud ymlaen gyda'r mesurau hyn. Nid ydym wedi gweld cymaint o gynnydd ag y byddem yn dymuno ei weld, ac wrth gyflwyno cynllun cenedlaethol newydd ar gyfer strôc, cynllun y mae cymaint o angen amdano—cynllun cyflawni—mae angen i'r unedau strôc hyper-acíwt fod yn rhan flaenllaw o hynny.
Gadewch imi roi rhai o'r ffeithiau a welsom drwy gyfrwng yr arolwg a wnaethom o bobl sy'n cael profiad o strôc. Dywedodd 65 y cant o oroeswyr strôc yng Nghymru wrth y Gymdeithas Strôc eu bod wedi cael llai o ofal a chymorth yn ystod y pandemig. Dangosodd hefyd, er bod 50 y cant—hanner y goroeswyr strôc—wedi gweld apwyntiadau therapi'n cael eu canslo, dim ond llai na chwarter a aeth ymlaen i gael therapi dros y ffôn neu ar-lein. Nawr, rhaid imi ddweud fy mod yn ddiolchgar fod gennym Gymdeithas Strôc wych yn fy ardal sydd, drwy'r blynyddoedd, wedi bod yn eithriadol o dda am ddarparu cymorth a chyfeirio at gymorth i bobl leol yn ardal Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr, ond edrychwch ar beth sydd wedi digwydd yn ystod y pandemig. Nid yn unig fod y cymorth hwnnw'n deneuach, mae gallu gwasanaethau cymorth y Gymdeithas Strôc i gyfeirio hefyd wedi'i leihau. A'r effeithiau ar iechyd meddwl: mae bron i 70 y cant, saith o bob 10, o'r rhai a holwyd yn teimlo'n eithaf pryderus neu'n isel eu hysbryd, ac roedd bron i 57 y cant o ofalwyr yn teimlo eu bod wedi'u llethu neu'n methu ymdopi.
Felly, rwy'n credu bod y neges yn glir iawn: roedd gwasanaethau dan bwysau eisoes; yr unedau hyper-acíwt, nid ydym wedi gweld y cynnydd roeddem am ei weld; y gwasanaethau therapi nad oeddent yn gyson ac yn dda ym mhob man yng Nghymru. Felly, os rhywbeth yn awr, yn sgil gwaith y grŵp trawsbleidiol, yn sgil gwaith y Gymdeithas Strôc ac yn sgil y pandemig hwn, fel grŵp trawsbleidiol rydym yn galw ar y Llywodraeth i gyflymu'r gwaith hwn, ac i fyrddau iechyd lleol ddatblygu eu gwaith ar unedau hyper-acíwt hefyd, a chefnogi gwasanaethau. Diolch yn fawr iawn, Ddirprwy Lywydd.
The past year has, of course, been difficult for everyone in their different ways but, for many stroke survivors in Wales, it's meant putting their recoveries on hold, and people who are desperate to regain mobility, independence and fitness have, as Huw referred to now, seen cancelled therapy sessions—around half of those surveyed by the Stroke Association experiencing that. As he mentioned as well, more than two thirds said that they'd been feeling anxious and depressed since the pandemic. No-one should feel hopeless after a stroke and, of course, it's not just the stroke survivors who are affected; carers for stroke survivors have also been feeling the impact, with two thirds of them also saying that they were carrying out more caring duties during lockdown.
A big part of stroke recovery are the social clubs and meetings, so that people can share their experiences and help each other on that road to recovery. These were important in terms of therapy, yes, but also broader socialising and, of course, as fundraisers for those little extras that can make such a big difference in enabling stroke survivors to recovery. Now that fundraising, of course, has come to an abrupt halt, and the face-to-face socialising has all now gone online, as we all have, but what I've been told is that for many, particularly in rural parts of Wales, far too many stroke survivors are finding that their broadband service isn't good enough for a Zoom call and that increases the sense of isolation. That's particularly the case, of course, when you have speech difficulties in light of your stroke, and need that practice to recover.
We've all faced the frustrations of buffering and lagging internet connections at some point, and we've experienced that in our Plenary session this afternoon, but imagine that when your speech is already compromised and, of course, your resilience is low. It's demoralising to say the least. The same applies for people leaving hospital and unable to access services because of their geographic remoteness. So, my call in this debate is simple: we need a stroke service that recognises these specific challenges in more remote and less well-connected parts of the country. We need parity of service, because for far too long there's been a high level of variation in treatments and support at different stroke units in Wales.
Of course, the pandemic has been exceptional across the health service, but let's not kid ourselves that things were perfect for stroke survivors beforehand. In recovering previous services available to stroke survivors, we should also be looking to strengthen them with a new national plan for stroke survivors. It's been almost four years since the Government had a stroke delivery plan that agreed to deliver hyper acute stroke units that would improve survivability, and despite some good work by Betsi Cadwaladr and other health boards, none have been delivered so far because the commitment by this Government wasn't matched with the funding necessary. So, these hyper acute units remain on the drawing board because of a lack of leadership from Government in that respect.
So, in conclusion, let's make sure that despite this awful pandemic, we see some good come out of this crisis, and for stroke survivors, let's ensure that they get the services they need in all parts of the country, and that we finally start to deliver on aspirations and strategies.
Mae'r flwyddyn ddiwethaf, wrth gwrs, wedi bod yn anodd i bawb yn eu gwahanol ffyrdd ond i lawer o oroeswyr strôc yng Nghymru, mae wedi golygu gohirio eu hadferiad ac mae pobl sy'n awyddus iawn i adfer symudedd, annibyniaeth a ffitrwydd, fel y nododd Huw yn awr, wedi gweld sesiynau therapi'n cael eu canslo—roedd tua hanner y rhai a arolygwyd gan y Gymdeithas Strôc wedi profi hynny. Fel y soniodd hefyd, dywedodd mwy na dwy ran o dair eu bod wedi teimlo'n bryderus ac yn isel eu hysbryd ers y pandemig. Ni ddylai neb deimlo'n ddiobaith ar ôl strôc ac wrth gwrs, nid dim ond goroeswyr strôc sy'n cael eu heffeithio; mae gofalwyr goroeswyr strôc hefyd wedi teimlo'r effaith, gyda dwy ran o dair ohonynt yn dweud hefyd eu bod yn cyflawni mwy o ddyletswyddau gofalu yn ystod y cyfyngiadau symud.
Rhan fawr o'r broses o wella ar ôl strôc yw'r clybiau cymdeithasol a'r cyfarfodydd, fel y gall pobl rannu eu profiadau a helpu ei gilydd ar y ffordd tuag at wellhad. Roedd y rhain yn bwysig o ran therapi, oeddent, ond hefyd o ran cymdeithasu'n ehangach ac wrth gwrs, fel ffyrdd o godi arian ar gyfer y pethau bach ychwanegol a all wneud cymaint o wahaniaeth i alluogi goroeswyr strôc i wella. Nawr mae codi arian, wrth gwrs, wedi dod i ben yn ddisymwth, ac mae'r cymdeithasu wyneb yn wyneb i gyd wedi mynd ar-lein erbyn hyn, fel y mae pob un ohonom wedi'i wneud, ond yr hyn a ddywedwyd wrthyf yw bod llawer gormod o oroeswyr strôc, yn enwedig mewn rhannau gwledig o Gymru, yn canfod nad yw eu gwasanaeth band eang yn ddigon da ar gyfer gwneud galwad Zoom ac mae hynny'n cynyddu'r ymdeimlad o unigedd. Mae hynny'n arbennig o wir, wrth gwrs, pan fydd gennych nam ar y lleferydd o ganlyniad i'ch strôc, ac angen ymarfer er mwyn gwella.
Rydym i gyd wedi wynebu rhwystredigaeth yn sgil byffro a chysylltiadau rhyngrwyd araf ar ryw adeg neu'i gilydd, ac rydym wedi profi hynny yn ein Cyfarfod Llawn y prynhawn yma, ond dychmygwch hynny pan fydd eich lleferydd eisoes yn aneglur a'ch ysbryd yn lluddedig. Mae'n ddigalon a dweud y lleiaf. Mae'r un peth yn wir am bobl sy'n gadael yr ysbyty heb allu manteisio ar wasanaethau oherwydd eu pellter daearyddol. Felly, mae fy ngalwad yn y ddadl hon yn syml: mae arnom angen gwasanaeth strôc sy'n cydnabod yr heriau penodol hyn mewn rhannau mwy anghysbell a llai cysylltiedig o'r wlad. Mae arnom angen gwasanaeth cydradd, oherwydd ers gormod o amser mae lefel uchel o amrywio wedi bod rhwng triniaethau a chymorth yn y gwahanol unedau strôc yng Nghymru.
Wrth gwrs, mae'r pandemig wedi creu sefyllfa eithriadol ar draws y gwasanaeth iechyd, ond gadewch i ni beidio â thwyllo ein hunain fod pethau'n berffaith i oroeswyr strôc cyn hynny. Wrth adfer gwasanaethau blaenorol a oedd ar gael i oroeswyr strôc, dylem hefyd geisio eu cryfhau gyda chynllun cenedlaethol newydd ar gyfer goroeswyr strôc. Mae bron i bedair blynedd wedi mynd heibio ers i'r Llywodraeth gael cynllun cyflawni ar gyfer strôc a gytunodd i ddarparu unedau strôc hyper-acíwt i wella'r gallu i oroesi, ac er gwaethaf rhywfaint o waith da gan Betsi Cadwaladr a byrddau iechyd eraill, nid oes yr un ohonynt wedi'u darparu hyd yn hyn gan nad oedd cyllid angenrheidiol ar gael i gyd-fynd ag ymrwymiad y Llywodraeth. Felly, mae'r unedau hyper-acíwt hyn yn dal i fod ar y cam cynllunio oherwydd diffyg arweiniad gan y Llywodraeth yn hynny o beth.
Felly, i gloi, er gwaethaf y pandemig ofnadwy hwn, gadewch inni sicrhau ein bod yn gweld rhywfaint o les yn dod o'r argyfwng, a gadewch inni sicrhau bod goroeswyr strôc yn cael y gwasanaethau y maent eu hangen ym mhob rhan o'r wlad, a'n bod o'r diwedd yn dechrau gwireddu dyheadau a strategaethau.
The coronavirus pandemic has had a drastic impact on our health and care systems. Not only have waiting times for treatments vastly increased, but we have also seen fewer people seeking help for fear of contracting a disease that has killed millions of people in the past 12 months. So, whilst this issue has affected all services, it's keenly felt in stroke services.
Stroke is one of the leading causes of death and a leading cause of adult disability in Wales. Each year, around 7,500 people in Wales die from a stroke. Thankfully, thousands more survive, yet they are left with life-limiting disabilities that require a great deal of care and support. And it's believed that just over 2 per cent of the Welsh population are stroke survivors: that's around 66,000 people in need of services such as rehabilitation and mental health support.
Pre-pandemic, these services were already struggling to meet the needs of survivors, but since coronavirus took hold on our shores, around two thirds of survivors have not received sufficient care and support. It is little wonder, therefore, that in a survey of stroke survivors and their carers, over two thirds of survivors have felt anxious or depressed, and nearly six in 10 carers felt overwhelmed or unable to cope—hardly surprising when half of all appointments have been cancelled. We weren't doing great pre-pandemic, but we now have the opportunity to build back better.
We must have a new stroke delivery plan, and the new plan must put an end to the regional variance that has existed since the introduction of the last delivery plan. But more importantly, we have to ensure that we focus on implementing the recommendations of the stroke cross-party group to reconfigure our existing units into hyper acute stroke units. I urge Members to support this by supporting the motion. Thank you. Diolch yn fawr.
Mae'r pandemig coronafeirws wedi cael effaith eithafol ar ein systemau iechyd a gofal. Nid yn unig y mae amseroedd aros am driniaethau wedi ymestyn yn sylweddol, ond rydym hefyd wedi gweld llai o bobl yn gofyn am gymorth am eu bod yn ofni dal clefyd sydd wedi lladd miliynau o bobl dros y 12 mis diwethaf. Felly, er bod y clefyd wedi effeithio ar bob gwasanaeth, mae'n cael ei deimlo'n fyw iawn yn y gwasanaethau strôc.
Strôc yw un o'r prif achosion marwolaeth ac un o brif achosion anabledd ymhlith oedolion yng Nghymru. Bob blwyddyn, mae tua 7,500 o bobl yng Nghymru yn marw o strôc. Diolch byth, mae miloedd yn fwy na hynny'n goroesi, ac eto cânt eu gadael gydag anableddau sy'n cyfyngu ar eu bywydau, cyflyrau sy'n gofyn am lawer iawn o ofal a chymorth. A chredir bod ychydig dros 2 y cant o boblogaeth Cymru yn oroeswyr strôc, sef oddeutu 66,000 o bobl sydd angen gwasanaethau fel adsefydlu a chymorth iechyd meddwl.
Cyn y pandemig, roedd y gwasanaethau hyn eisoes yn ei chael hi'n anodd diwallu anghenion goroeswyr, ond ers i'r coronafeirws ledaenu yn y wlad hon, nid yw tua dwy ran o dair o oroeswyr wedi cael digon o ofal a chefnogaeth. Nid yw'n syndod, felly, fod dros ddwy ran o dair o oroeswyr mewn arolwg o oroeswyr strôc a'u gofalwyr wedi teimlo gorbryder neu iselder ysbryd, a bod bron i chwech o bob 10 gofalwr yn teimlo eu bod wedi'u llethu neu'n methu ymdopi—prin fod hynny'n syndod pan fydd hanner yr holl apwyntiadau wedi'u canslo. Nid oeddem yn gwneud yn wych cyn y pandemig, ond bellach mae gennym gyfle i adeiladu nôl yn well.
Rhaid inni gael cynllun cyflawni newydd ar gyfer strôc, a rhaid i'r cynllun newydd roi diwedd ar yr amrywio rhanbarthol sydd wedi bodoli ers cyflwyno'r cynllun cyflawni diwethaf. Ond yn bwysicach na hynny, rhaid inni sicrhau ein bod yn canolbwyntio ar weithredu argymhellion y grŵp trawsbleidiol ar strôc er mwyn ad-drefnu ein hunedau presennol yn unedau strôc hyper-acíwt. Rwy'n annog yr Aelodau i gefnogi hyn drwy gefnogi'r cynnig. Diolch yn fawr.
Thank you. Can I now call on the Minister for Health and Social Services, Vaughan Gething?
Diolch. A gaf fi alw yn awr ar Vaughan Gething, y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol?
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, and I want to thank Dai Lloyd and Members for bringing this important issue to the Chamber, and for Members' contributions. I have listened to what the speakers had to say and I am generally supportive of the motion.
We are aware, as indeed many speakers have set out, of the impact that COVID-19 has had on stroke services since the earliest days of the pandemic. You'll recall that I have frequently highlighted the reduction in admissions of people coming into our hospitals with stroke, not because the public health had rapidly and miraculously improved, but because people were avoiding the service. We have worked diligently with our health boards, guiding planning activity to try to alleviate this impact.
Last May, in our essential service guidance, stroke and transient ischaemic attack services for the population were recognised as being essential in the face of the overwhelming pressure upon our NHS. The framework we provided was designed to help organisations and services to deliver stroke services during the pandemic and the subsequent phases. We wanted to maintain the integrity of stroke services and patient outcomes, alongside acute COVID-19 care. That framework includes guidance on secondary prevention and rehabilitation to minimise long-term disability, support for carers, and, indeed, life-after-stroke services. We have consistently set out messages with the public to try and encourage all of us to continue to attend emergency departments for serious or life-threatening illnesses, such as stroke, throughout the pandemic.
We do, of course, remain committed to improving support for stroke survivors, and welcome the Stroke Association's 'Stroke recoveries at risk' report. Last year, we announced an additional £1.4 million for rehabilitation services for all people at risk of losing their independence, and we published our rehabilitation framework to help organisations to plan for those rehab services during and following the COVID-19 pandemic.
I note the calls for a new stroke delivery plan. Clearly, it isn't possible to develop such a plan in the time left to us before the pre-election period, and I don't think we could honestly rely on a new Government, yet to be formed and determined by the voters of Wales, to adopt a strategy decided before they're elected. It's possible that a new Government may want to focus on matters differently. So, that will be for a new Government.
We have rolled forward the current approach, and that would mean that the current approach is in progress. That means it's been extended to March 2022, and a new plan would be ready at the start of a new Senedd term, to be ready for implementation from March 2022 when the extended plan comes to an end. That will allow for reflection on the lessons learned and new models of care used during the pandemic.
It must also fit in, and, I believe, take advantage of the opportunities set out in 'A Healthier Wales'. These include the development of the national clinical framework and the NHS executive function, and I welcome the recognition Dr Lloyd provided for the clinical lead for stroke services in Wales, taking on board the excellent work done by his predecessor. And it should also properly consider the recommendations of the cross-party group on stroke, and the Stroke Association's 'Stroke recoveries at risk' report.
I welcome the focus many Members have had on stroke service reform, and in particular the hyper acute units. We already have a number of these in place across Wales and the challenge is having more of them to cover the rest of the country. That will require specialisation and fewer admitting stroke units in the country, but the evidence is clear that, in doing so, we will improve outcomes, and that specialisation must also go hand in hand with the improvement in wider community and rehab services that all speakers have recognised.
So, I welcome the debate, and on a personal note, I'll just remind Members that my own father recovered from several strokes and eventually lost his life to a stroke, so I do understand the need and the benefit from a further improvement in stroke services. While I'm not able to support the motion in its entirety, I'm certainly supportive of the sentiments and where Members from across the Chamber politically want to go. The Welsh Government will therefore be abstaining in the vote later today.
Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd, a hoffwn ddiolch i Dai Lloyd a'r Aelodau am gyflwyno'r mater pwysig hwn i'r Siambr, ac am gyfraniadau'r Aelodau. Rwyf wedi gwrando ar yr hyn a oedd gan y siaradwyr i'w ddweud ac rwy'n gefnogol i'r cynnig at ei gilydd.
Fel y mae llawer o siaradwyr wedi nodi, rydym yn ymwybodol o'r effaith y mae COVID-19 wedi'i chael ar wasanaethau strôc ers dyddiau cynharaf y pandemig. Fe fyddwch yn cofio fy mod wedi tynnu sylw ar sawl achlysur at y gostyngiad yn nifer y bobl sy'n dod i mewn i'n hysbytai gyda strôc, nid am fod iechyd y cyhoedd wedi gwella'n gyflym ac yn wyrthiol, ond am fod pobl yn osgoi'r gwasanaeth. Rydym wedi gweithio'n ddiwyd gyda'n byrddau iechyd i arwain gweithgarwch cynllunio er mwyn ceisio lleddfu'r effaith hon.
Fis Mai diwethaf, yn ein canllawiau ar wasanaethau hanfodol, cydnabuwyd bod gwasanaethau strôc a phyliau o isgemia dros dro yn rhai hanfodol i'r boblogaeth yn wyneb y pwysau aruthrol ar ein GIG. Lluniwyd y fframwaith a ddarparwyd gennym er mwyn helpu sefydliadau a gwasanaethau i ddarparu gwasanaethau strôc yn ystod y pandemig a'r cyfnodau dilynol. Roeddem am gynnal cyfanrwydd gwasanaethau strôc a chanlyniadau i gleifion, ochr yn ochr â gofal COVID-19 acíwt. Mae'r fframwaith hwnnw'n cynnwys canllawiau ar gymorth ataliol eilaidd ac adsefydlu er mwyn lleihau anabledd hirdymor, cymorth i ofalwyr, ac yn wir, gwasanaethau bywyd ar ôl strôc. Rydym wedi darparu negeseuon cyson ar gyfer y cyhoedd i geisio annog pob un ohonom i barhau i fynychu adrannau achosion brys ar gyfer afiechydon difrifol neu salwch sy'n bygwth bywyd, megis strôc, drwy gydol y pandemig.
Wrth gwrs, rydym yn parhau i fod yn ymrwymedig i wella'r cymorth i oroeswyr strôc, ac rydym yn croesawu adroddiad 'Stroke recoveries at risk' y Gymdeithas Strôc. Y llynedd, cyhoeddwyd £1.4 miliwn ychwanegol gennym ar gyfer gwasanaethau adsefydlu i bawb sydd mewn perygl o golli eu hannibyniaeth, a chyhoeddasom ein fframwaith adsefydlu i helpu sefydliadau i gynllunio ar gyfer gwasanaethau adsefydlu yn ystod pandemig COVID-19 a wedyn.
Nodaf y galwadau am gynllun cyflawni newydd ar gyfer strôc. Yn amlwg, nid yw'n bosibl datblygu cynllun o'r fath yn yr amser sydd ar ôl yn y cyfnod cyn yr etholiad, ac nid wyf yn credu'n onest y gallem ddibynnu ar Lywodraeth newydd sydd eto i'w ffurfio a'i phennu gan bleidleiswyr Cymru i fabwysiadu strategaeth a benderfynwyd cyn iddynt gael eu hethol. Mae'n bosibl y bydd Llywodraeth newydd am ganolbwyntio ar faterion mewn ffordd wahanol. Felly, mater i Lywodraeth newydd fydd hynny.
Rydym wedi ymestyn cyfnod y dull presennol o weithredu, ac mae hynny'n golygu bod y dull presennol yn weithredol. Golyga hynny ei fod wedi'i ymestyn hyd at fis Mawrth 2022, a byddai cynllun newydd yn barod ar ddechrau tymor newydd yn y Senedd, i fod yn barod i'w weithredu o fis Mawrth 2022 pan ddaw'r cynllun estynedig i ben. Bydd hynny'n caniatáu ystyriaeth o'r gwersi a ddysgwyd a'r modelau gofal newydd a ddefnyddir yn ystod y pandemig.
Rhaid iddo hefyd gydweddu â'r cyfleoedd a nodir yn 'Cymru Iachach', a manteisio arnynt hefyd yn fy marn i. Mae'r rhain yn cynnwys datblygu'r fframwaith clinigol cenedlaethol a swyddogaeth weithredol y GIG, ac rwy'n croesawu'r gydnabyddiaeth a roddodd Dr Lloyd i arweinydd clinigol gwasanaethau strôc yng Nghymru, gan ystyried y gwaith rhagorol a wnaeth ei ragflaenydd. A dylid rhoi ystyriaeth briodol hefyd i argymhellion y grŵp trawsbleidiol ar strôc, ac adroddiad 'Stroke recoveries at risk' y Gymdeithas Strôc.
Rwy'n croesawu'r ffocws y mae llawer o'r Aelodau wedi'i roi i ddiwygio'r gwasanaeth strôc, ac yn enwedig yr unedau hyper-acíwt. Mae gennym nifer o'r rhain eisoes yn eu lle ledled Cymru a'r her yw cael mwy ohonynt ar gyfer gweddill y wlad. Bydd hynny'n galw am arbenigedd a llai o unedau derbyn cleifion strôc yn y wlad, ond mae'r dystiolaeth yn glir y byddwn, drwy wneud hynny, yn gwella canlyniadau, a rhaid i arbenigedd fynd law yn llaw â'r gwelliant i wasanaethau cymunedol ehangach ac adsefydlu fel y mae pob siaradwr wedi'i gydnabod.
Felly, rwy'n croesawu'r ddadl, ac ar nodyn personol, hoffwn atgoffa'r Aelodau fod fy nhad fy hun wedi gwella o sawl strôc ac wedi colli ei fywyd i strôc yn y diwedd, felly rwy'n deall yr angen a'r budd o wella gwasanaethau strôc ymhellach. Er nad wyf yn gallu cefnogi'r cynnig yn ei gyfanrwydd, rwy'n sicr yn cefnogi'r teimladau sy'n sail iddo a lle mae Aelodau o bob rhan o'r Siambr am fynd yn wleidyddol. Felly, bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn ymatal yn y bleidlais yn nes ymlaen heddiw.
Thank you. I now call on Rhun ap Iorwerth to reply to the debate. Rhun.
Diolch. Galwaf yn awr ar Rhun ap Iorwerth i ymateb i'r ddadl. Rhun.
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Ddirprwy Lywydd, a diolch i bawb sydd wedi cymryd rhan yn y ddadl bwysig iawn yma. Buaswn i'n licio diolch yn fawr iawn i'r Gymdeithas Strôc am y gwaith maen nhw wedi'i wneud dros y misoedd diwethaf. Mae'r ddogfen ar beryglu adferiad strôc gafodd ei chyhoeddi yn ôl ym mis Medi yn werthfawr iawn o ran mesur impact y pandemig ar wasanaethau.
Rydym ni'n gwybod bod y pandemig wedi ei gwneud hi'n anoddach i bobl sydd wedi'u heffeithio gan strôc i gael mynediad at y gwasanaethau maen nhw eu hangen. Rydym ni'n gwybod, wrth gwrs, pa mor bwysig ydy triniaeth effeithiol a thriniaeth gynnar, ac nid yn unig y mae'r anhawster yna i gael gofal yn effeithio ar ba mor dda y bydd pobl yn gwella'n gorfforol ar ôl y strôc, ond mae o yn cael effaith ar eu lles a'u hiechyd meddwl hefyd. Rŵan, mae'r sefyllfa wedi cael ei disgrifio'n dda iawn gan y rhai sydd wedi cyfrannu at y ddadl yma heddiw, a dwi'n diolch iddyn nhw.
Mae'r cynnig sydd o'n blaenau ni yn galw am sicrhau bod byrddau iechyd yn cael eu cefnogi i gynnal eu gwasanaethau strôc ar yr amser anodd yma, yng nghyd-destun y pandemig. Ond mae'r brif alwad ar Lywodraeth Cymru yn ddigon clir: mae angen cynllun strôc cenedlaethol newydd. Achos beth mae'r pandemig wedi'i wneud, mewn difrif, ydy rhoi mwy fyth o bwysau ar wasanaethau a oedd o dan bwysau yn barod, a rŵan, yn fwy nag erioed, mae eisiau cynllun sy'n dangos y ffordd ymlaen i wneud yn siŵr bod pobl, lle bynnag y maen nhw yng Nghymru, yn gallu cael mynediad at wasanaethau strôc o safon uchel.
Dwi'n ddiolchgar i'r Gweinidog am ei sylwadau. Dwi'n cydnabod hefyd, wrth gwrs, y pwysau enfawr yr oedd o'n cyfeirio ato fo oedd yna ar wasanaethau yn sgil y pandemig, a bod hynny, yn anochel, wedi cael impact. Dwi wrth gwrs yn nodi hefyd fod y Llywodraeth a'r Gweinidog wedi dweud wrthym y bydd y cynllun presennol yn cael ei ymestyn tan 2022 oherwydd COVID, a bod gwaith yn parhau ar fath o barhad o hynny ar ôl hynny. Ond dwi ddim yn clywed bod gwaith yn cael ei wneud rŵan i baratoi am gynllun cenedlaethol newydd o'r math rydym ni ei angen, i gael ei weithredu gan bwy bynnag, wrth gwrs, fydd mewn Llywodraeth. Ac mi fyddwn i'n dymuno gweld consensws yn cael ei adeiladu ar draws y pleidiau gwleidyddol, ac y gall gwaith ddechrau ar y cynllun hwnnw rŵan. A dyna'r math o ymrwymiad y byddwn i wedi licio ei glywed gan y Gweinidog presennol, sydd, dwi'n cymryd, yn gobeithio y gall fod yn Weinidog ar ôl yr etholiad hefyd. Mae eisiau cynllun newydd, rhywbeth mwy cadarn o ran ymrwymiad, yn hytrach na pharhad, os liciwch chi, y tu hwnt i 2022.
Ddirprwy Lywydd, mae'r grŵp trawsbleidiol wedi gwneud cryn dipyn o waith ar hyn. Mae bron i flwyddyn ers i'r grŵp ymgynghori ar sut y mae'r cynllun strôc presennol wedi cael ei ddelifro ac fe gafodd yr adroddiad hwnnw ei gyhoeddi wedyn ym mis Ebrill. Dydy'r ffaith bod ein prif sylw ni bryd hynny ar yr ymateb cyffredinol i'r pandemig oedd newydd daro ddim yn tynnu oddi ar bwysigrwydd yr adroddiad hwnnw a'r casgliadau gafodd eu cyrraedd gan yr ymchwiliad. Do, mi wnaeth o adnabod arferion da iawn, elfennau o'r cynllun presennol sydd wedi bod yn llwyddiannus iawn, yn enwedig, rhaid dweud, o ran y gwaith ataliol, ond mae yna'n dal ormod o anghysondeb ar draws y gwasanaeth. Mi oedd hi'n amlwg bod yna gryn waith i'w wneud i gryfhau strwythurau llywodraethiant mewn cysylltiad â delifro gwasanaethau strôc.
Ac unwaith eto heddiw, rydyn ni wedi clywed pa mor bwysig ydy hi fod gêr arall yn cael ei chodi yn y gwaith i sicrhau bod dioddefwyr strôc yng Nghymru yn cael y gefnogaeth y maen nhw ei hangen. Dwi'n hyderus bod y Gweinidog—sydd yn cytuno, yn gyffredinol, fel y dywedodd o, â bwriad y cynnig yma, er ddim wedi cweit rhoi'r atebion y byddem ni eu heisiau—wedi clywed y dadleuon yn glir. Unwaith eto, mae'n bwysig iawn eu bod nhw'n cael eu gwyntyllu yma yn y Senedd.
Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer, and thank you to everyone who has participated in this very important debate. I would like to thank the Stroke Association for the work they have done over the last few months. The document on stroke recoveries at risk that was produced back in September is a very valuable contribution in terms of measuring the impact of the pandemic on services.
We know that the pandemic has made it more difficult for those affected by stroke to access the services that they need. We know how important effective and early treatment is, and not only is that difficulty in accessing care impacting on how well people recover physically after stroke, but it also has an impact on their mental health and well-being too. Now, the situation has been described very effectively by those who've contributed to this debate today, and I thank them all.
The motion before us calls for us to ensure that health boards are supported in maintaining stroke services at these difficult times, given the context of the pandemic. But the main demand on the Welsh Government is clear: we need a national stroke plan. Because what the pandemic has done, if truth be told, is to place even more pressure on services that were already under pressure, and now, more than ever, we need a plan showing a way forward to ensure that people, wherever they are in Wales, can access stroke services of the highest quality.
I'm grateful to the Minister for his comments. I also recognise the huge pressures that he referred to on services as a result of the pandemic, and that, inevitably, has had an impact. I, of course, also note that the Government and the Minister have told us that the current plan will be extended until 2022 because of COVID, and that work is ongoing on what will happen following that. But I don't hear that work is being done now to prepare for a national delivery plan of the kind we need, to be actioned by whoever is in Government. And I would like to see consensus being built across political parties, and that work could commence on that plan now. And that's the kind of commitment that I would've hoped to have heard from the current Minister, who, I assume, hopes to be Minister following the election too. We need that new plan, we need something that is more robust in terms of a commitment, rather than just continuing beyond 2022.
Deputy Presiding Officer, the cross-party group has done a lot of work on this. It's almost a year since the group consulted on how the current stroke plan has been delivered and that report was published in April. The fact that our main focus at that time was on the general response to the pandemic that had just hit us doesn't take away from the importance of that report and the conclusions reached by our inquiry. Yes, it identified very good practice, elements of the current plan that have been very successful, particularly, one has to say, in terms of the preventative work, but there is still too much inconsistency in terms of the service. It's clear that there's a lot of work to be done to strengthen governance structures in relation to stroke service delivery.
And once again, we've heard how important it is that we move up a gear in terms of this work, to ensure that stroke sufferers in Wales receive the support that they need. I am confident that the Minister—who agrees with the sentiments, as he said, of this motion, although he didn't quite give the answers we would've hoped to have heard—has heard the arguments made very clearly. Once again, it's very important that they're aired here in the Senedd.
Thank you. The proposal is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I see an objection; therefore, we'll vote under this item at voting time.
Diolch. Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn y cynnig. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Rwy'n gweld gwrthwynebiad; felly, fe bleidleisiwn o dan yr eitem hon yn ystod y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Gohiriwyd y pleidleisio tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Voting deferred until voting time.
Detholwyd y gwelliant canlynol: gwelliant 1 yn enw Rebecca Evans. Yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.23(iii), ni ddewiswyd gwelliant 2 a gyflwynwyd i’r cynnig.
The following amendment has been selected: amendment 1 in the name of Rebecca Evans. In accordance with Standing Order 12.23(iii), amendment 2 tabled to the motion was not selected.
Item 7 on our agenda this afternoon is the Welsh Conservatives debate on the supply and roll-out of COVID vaccines. I call on Angela Burns to move the motion.
Eitem 7 ar ein hagenda y prynhawn yma yw dadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ar gyflenwad a chyflwyno brechlynnau COVID. Galwaf ar Angela Burns i wneud y cynnig.
Cynnig NDM7562 Darren Millar
Cynnig bod y Senedd:
1. Yn croesawu'r camau cyflym a gymerwyd gan Lywodraeth Geidwadol y DU i sicrhau mynediad at 367 miliwn o ddosau o frechlynnau a sicrhau mai'r DU oedd y wlad gyntaf yn y byd i awdurdodi brechlyn.
2. Yn cydnabod y cyflenwad sylweddol o frechlynnau a ddarparwyd gan Lywodraeth Geidwadol y DU i bob gwlad gartref.
3. Yn gresynu at y ffaith y dechreuodd y broses o gyflwyno'r brechlyn COVID-19 mor araf yng Nghymru.
4. Yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i weithredu cynllun pum pwynt i warantu llwyddiant y rhaglen frechu, sy'n cynnwys:
a) penodi gweinidog brechlynnau Llywodraeth Cymru;
b) torri biwrocratiaeth i alluogi fferyllfeydd a gweithwyr iechyd proffesiynol sydd wedi ymddeol neu gyn-weithwyr iechyd proffesiynol i roi'r brechlynnau;
c) pennu targedau clir a chyhoeddi gwybodaeth ddyddiol fanwl i sicrhau bod y rhaglen frechu ar y trywydd iawn ym mhob rhan o Gymru;
d) ysgogi 'byddin' o wirfoddolwyr i gefnogi GIG Cymru i gyflawni'r rhaglen frechu; ac
e) cyflwyno brechiadau 24/7 mewn canolfannau ledled y wlad.
Motion NDM7562 Darren Millar
To propose that the Senedd:
1. Welcomes the swift action taken by the UK Conservative Government in securing access to 367 million vaccine doses and ensuring the UK was the first country in the world to authorise a vaccine.
2. Recognises the significant supply of vaccines provided by the UK Conservative Government to all home nations.
3. Regrets the slow start to the COVID-19 vaccine roll-out in Wales.
4. Calls on the Welsh Government to implement a five-point plan to guarantee the success of the vaccination programme, which includes:
a) appointing a Welsh Government vaccines minister;
b) cutting red tape to enable pharmacies and retired or former health professionals to administer the vaccines;
c) setting clear targets and publishing detailed daily information to ensure the vaccination programme is on track in all parts of Wales;
d) mobilising a 'volunteer army' to support the Welsh NHS in the delivery of the vaccination programme; and
e) introducing 24/7 vaccinations at centres across the country.
Cynigiwyd y cynnig.
Motion moved.
Good afternoon, Deputy Presiding Officer. I move the motion tabled in the name of Darren Millar and ask the Senedd to welcome the swift action taken by the UK Conservative Government in securing access to 367 million vaccine doses and ensuring the UK was the first country in the world to authorise a vaccine. We won't be supporting the Government amendment, given both the 'delete all' and the hubris on display yesterday. But we will support Neil McEvoy's amendment; indeed, I'm very interested to know whether the Welsh Government has turned down any vaccines, let alone the numbers Mr McEvoy cites.
Without doubt, the swift and detailed work done by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency in approving the Pfizer and Oxford vaccines a month before European regulators has enabled the UK to lead on vaccine roll-out in Europe. However, it is now down to you, the Welsh Labour-led Government, to use all of the vaccines made available to you as quickly as possible, because without a vaccine our economy will be destroyed by an endless cycle of lockdown after lockdown. We already see businesses closing and people losing jobs.
Without a vaccine, the future learning of our children is at stake. Remote learning isn't working or possible for all, and exams are to be teacher assessed. We cannot continue to gamble with children and young people's futures. Without a vaccine, the Welsh NHS will continue to be crushed under the pressure of seriously ill COVID-19 patients, and we cannot allow waiting lists to spiral even further and non-COVID harms to escalate. Members, I feel the need to rehearse these arguments given the First Minister's comments, made several times, that he is spacing out the vaccines in order to ensure that vaccinators aren't standing around doing nothing—totally absurd comments met with anger by the public and in stark contrast to other nations. On the same day as the First Minister's comments, over-70s in England were already being invited for vaccination appointments.
I acknowledge the hard of work vaccinators up and down the country; to you all, I say a heartfelt 'thank you'. However, Minister, it is you I must call to account. Planning an effective vaccine roll-out was surely the mandate of the Wales COVID-19 vaccine delivery programme board. They've been in place since June last year, with the mandate of planning the vaccine roll-out. So, why were some health boards only recently formulating plans for mass vaccination centres or for mobile testing units? Why have GPs had to go through bureaucratic hoops to access the vaccines from the Welsh Government and PHE? Why are so many of the over-80s in the community worried sick that they have heard nothing? Why are some health boards leaping ahead and others falling back?
Yesterday, you refuted any notion of a postcode lottery, but that is exactly what is happening in parts of Wales. Minister, can you clarify what input the vaccines delivery board has had in bringing together Wales's response to the vaccine roll-out? How many times has it met since it was formed in June? What are its outcomes and performance measures? Minister, while it is welcome news that nearly 70 per cent of care home residents were vaccinated by the end of last week, your target for the over-80s has slipped substantially. What are the reasons for this? I don't believe it's just snow.
Last week, the First Minister claimed he had access to rolling data that showed that the over-80s target would be met. How? Regrettably, some people are queue jumping and back-room staff are being vaccinated ahead of priority groups; this is reported by a number of health boards. Minister, what efforts are you making to ensure that these reports are being thoroughly investigated and guidance offered? Some GPs have e-mailed to say that vaccinators are being told to bin excess vaccines. I understand the British Medical Association are aware, but what is the Welsh Government's policy about excess vaccines? Even a few instances of this are, in my view, morally and economically indefensible.
Minister, it is estimated that to reach the target of 740,350 people with a first dose by mid February, Wales needs to administer 22,358 vaccines a day. You've hit that target three times so far. How confident are you that all of the priority groups will receive the first dose by mid February? The Welsh Conservatives have a clear plan for speeding up the vaccine roll-out including a dedicated Minister, cutting the red tape preventing health professional from taking part, setting clear targets, enabling volunteers, and instigating 24/7 vaccination centres. Your plan does not seem clear, you're already missing targets, and I'm concerned as to your ability to be fleet of foot and pull this around. Therefore I commend this motion to the Senedd.
Prynhawn da, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n gwneud y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Darren Millar a gofynnaf i'r Senedd groesawu'r camau cyflym a gymerwyd gan Lywodraeth Geidwadol y DU i sicrhau mynediad at 367 miliwn o ddosau o frechlyn ac i sicrhau mai'r DU oedd y wlad gyntaf yn y byd i awdurdodi brechlyn. Ni fyddwn yn cefnogi gwelliant y Llywodraeth o ystyried y 'dileu popeth' a'r rhyfyg a welwyd ddoe. Ond byddwn yn cefnogi gwelliant Neil McEvoy; yn wir, mae gennyf ddiddordeb mawr mewn gwybod a yw Llywodraeth Cymru wedi gwrthod unrhyw frechlynnau, heb sôn am y niferoedd y mae Mr McEvoy yn eu dyfynnu.
Yn ddi-os, mae'r gwaith cyflym a manwl a wnaed gan yr Asiantaeth Rheoleiddio Meddyginiaethau a Chynhyrchion Gofal Iechyd yn cymeradwyo brechlynnau Pfizer a Rhydychen fis cyn i reoleiddwyr Ewropeaidd wneud hynny wedi galluogi'r DU i arwain ar gyflwyno brechlynnau yn Ewrop. Fodd bynnag, mater i chi, Lywodraeth Cymru dan arweiniad Llafur, yw defnyddio'r holl frechlynnau sydd ar gael ichi cyn gynted â phosibl yn awr, oherwydd heb frechlyn bydd ein heconomi'n cael ei dinistrio gan gylchoedd diddiwedd o gyfyngiadau symud. Rydym eisoes yn gweld busnesau'n cau a phobl yn colli swyddi.
Heb frechlyn, mae addysg ein plant yn y dyfodol yn y fantol. Nid yw dysgu o bell yn gweithio nac yn bosibl i bawb, ac mae arholiadau i gael eu hasesu gan athrawon. Ni allwn barhau i gamblo â dyfodol plant a phobl ifanc. Heb frechlyn, bydd GIG Cymru yn parhau i gael ei wasgu o dan bwysau cleifion COVID-19 sy'n ddifrifol wael, ac ni allwn ganiatáu i restrau aros ymestyn hyd yn oed ymhellach ac i fathau o niwed nad ydynt yn gysylltiedig â COVID waethygu. Aelodau, rwy'n teimlo bod angen ailadrodd y dadleuon hyn o ystyried sylwadau Prif Weinidog Cymru, a wnaed sawl gwaith, ei fod yn arafu'r broses o roi brechlynnau er mwyn sicrhau nad yw'r rhai sy'n rhoi'r brechlynnau'n cicio'u sodlau heb ddim i'w wneud—sylwadau cwbl hurt a ysgogodd ddicter y cyhoedd ac mewn cyferbyniad llwyr â'r gwledydd eraill. Ar yr un diwrnod ag y gwnaeth y Prif Weinidog ei sylwadau, roedd pobl dros 70 oed yn Lloegr eisoes yn cael eu gwahodd ar gyfer apwyntiadau brechu.
Rwy'n cydnabod y gwaith caled y mae'r rhai sy'n rhoi brechlynnau'n ei wneud ar hyd a lled y wlad; diolch o galon i chi i gyd. Fodd bynnag, Weinidog, rhaid i mi eich dwyn chi i gyfrif. Mae'n sicr mai cynllunio'r broses o gyflwyno brechlynnau'n effeithiol oedd mandad bwrdd rhaglen ddarparu brechlynnau COVID-19 Cymru. Maent wedi bod ar waith ers mis Mehefin y llynedd, gyda'r mandad o gynllunio'r broses o gyflwyno'r brechlyn. Felly, pam nad oedd rhai byrddau iechyd wedi llunio cynlluniau ar gyfer canolfannau brechu torfol neu ar gyfer unedau profi symudol tan yn ddiweddar? Pam y bu'n rhaid i feddygon teulu neidio drwy gylchoedd biwrocrataidd er mwyn cael gafael ar y brechlynnau gan Lywodraeth Cymru a PHE? Pam y mae cynifer o bobl dros 80 oed yn y gymuned yn poeni nad ydynt wedi clywed unrhyw beth? Pam y mae rhai byrddau iechyd yn llamu yn eu blaenau ac eraill yn llusgo ar ei hôl hi?
Ddoe, fe wnaethoch wrthod unrhyw awgrym o loteri cod post, ond dyna'n union sy'n digwydd mewn rhannau o Gymru. Weinidog, a allwch egluro pa fewnbwn y mae'r bwrdd cyflenwi brechlynnau wedi'i gael wrth ddwyn ynghyd ymateb Cymru i gyflwyno'r brechlyn? Sawl gwaith y mae wedi cyfarfod ers ei ffurfio ym mis Mehefin? Beth yw ei ddulliau o fesur canlyniadau a pherfformiad? Weinidog, er ei fod yn newyddion da fod bron i 70 y cant o breswylwyr cartrefi gofal wedi cael eu brechu erbyn diwedd yr wythnos diwethaf, mae eich targed ar gyfer pobl dros 80 oed wedi llithro'n sylweddol. Beth yw'r rhesymau am hyn? Nid wyf yn credu mai eira'n unig yw'r rheswm.
Yr wythnos diwethaf, honnodd Prif Weinidog Cymru fod ganddo fynediad at ddata treigl a ddangosai y byddai'r targed ar gyfer pobl dros 80 oed yn cael ei gyflawni. Sut? Yn anffodus, mae rhai pobl yn neidio'r ciw ac mae staff ystafell gefn yn cael eu brechu o flaen grwpiau blaenoriaeth; mae nifer o fyrddau iechyd yn nodi hyn. Weinidog, pa ymdrechion rydych yn eu gwneud i sicrhau bod yr adroddiadau hyn yn cael eu hymchwilio'n drylwyr a bod canllawiau'n cael eu cynnig? Mae rhai meddygon teulu wedi e-bostio i ddweud bod y rhai sy'n rhoi brechlynnau'n cael eu cynghori i daflu brechlyn dros ben i'r bin. Rwy'n deall bod Cymdeithas Feddygol Prydain yn ymwybodol o hyn, ond beth yw polisi Llywodraeth Cymru ar frechlynnau dros ben? Yn fy marn i, mae hyd yn oed ychydig o achosion o hyn yn rhywbeth na ellir ei amddiffyn yn foesol nac yn economaidd.
Weinidog, amcangyfrifir bod angen i Gymru ddarparu 22,358 o frechlynnau y dydd er mwyn cyrraedd y targed o roi dos cyntaf i 740,350 o bobl erbyn canol mis Chwefror. Rydych wedi cyrraedd y targed hwnnw deirgwaith hyd yma. Pa mor hyderus ydych chi y bydd pob un o'r grwpiau blaenoriaeth yn cael y dos cyntaf erbyn canol mis Chwefror? Mae gan y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig gynllun clir ar gyfer cyflymu'r broses o gyflwyno'r brechlyn gan gynnwys Gweinidog penodedig, torri drwy'r fiwrocratiaeth sy'n atal gweithwyr iechyd proffesiynol rhag cymryd rhan, gosod targedau clir, galluogi gwirfoddolwyr, a rhoi canolfannau brechu ar waith 24/7. Nid yw eich cynllun i'w weld yn glir, rydych eisoes yn methu targedau, ac rwy'n pryderu am eich gallu i newid y sefyllfa'n gyflym. Felly, rwy'n cymeradwyo'r cynnig hwn i'r Senedd.
I have selected one amendment to the motion. In accordance with Standing Order 12.23, I have not selected amendment 2 that was tabled to the motion. Can I call on the Minister for Health and Social Services, Vaughan Gething, to move amendment 1, tabled in the name of Rebecca Evans?
Rwyf wedi dethol un gwelliant i'r cynnig. Yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.23, nid wyf wedi dethol gwelliant 2 a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. A gaf fi alw ar y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol, Vaughan Gething, i gynnig gwelliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Rebecca Evans?
Gwelliant 1—Rebecca Evans
Dileu popeth a rhoi yn ei le:
Cynnig bod y Senedd:
1. Yn croesawu gwaith prydlon y rheoleiddiwr annibynnol, yr MHRA, i sicrhau mai’r Deyrnas Unedig oedd y wlad gyntaf yn y byd i awdurdodi brechlyn.
2. Yn nodi’r camau a gymerodd Llywodraeth y DU ar ran y 4 cenedl i sicrhau cyflenwadau brechlyn.
3. Yn nodi bod cyflwyno brechlyn ledled Cymru a gweddill y DU yn dibynnu ar sicrwydd y cyflenwad gan gynhyrchwyr.
4. Yn nodi bod oedi o ran cyflenwi OAZ wedi cael effaith uniongyrchol ar gyflwyno’r brechlyn ym maes gofal sylfaenol.
5. Yn nodi strategaeth Llywodraeth Cymru i gyflawni 3 carreg filltir allweddol:
a) erbyn canol mis Chwefror—cynnig brechiad i holl breswylwyr ac aelodau o staff cartrefi gofal; aelodau o staff iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol rheng flaen; pawb dros 70 a phawb eithriadol o agored i niwed yn glinigol;
b) erbyn y gwanwyn—cynnig brechiad i bob grŵp blaenoriaeth arall yng ngham un, sef pawb dros 50 a phawb sydd â risg uwch oherwydd cyflwr iechyd sylfaenol;
c) erbyn yr hydref—cynnig brechiad i bob oedolyn cymwys arall yng Nghymru, yn unol â chanllawiau’r Cyd-bwyllgor ar Imiwneiddio a Brechu (JCVI).
Amendment 1—Rebecca Evans
Delete all and replace with:
To propose that the Senedd:
1. Welcomes the swift action taken by the independent regulator, the MHRA, ensuring the UK was the first country in the world to authorise a vaccine.
2. Notes the action taken by the UK Government on behalf of the 4 nations to secure vaccine supplies.
3. Notes that roll-out across Wales and the rest of the UK is dependent on security of supply from the manufacturers.
4. Notes that delays in supply of OAZ have a direct impact on roll out in primary care.
5. Notes the Welsh Government strategy to deliver the following 3 key milestones:
a) by mid-February—all care home residents and staff; frontline health and social care staff; everyone over 70 and everyone who is clinically extremely vulnerable will have been offered vaccination;
b) by the spring—vaccination will have been offered to all the other phase one priority groups. This is everyone over 50 and everyone who is at-risk because they have an underlying health condition;
c) by the autumn—vaccination will have been offered to all other eligible adults in Wales, in line with any guidance issued by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI).
Cynigiwyd gwelliant 1.
Amendment 1 moved.
I formally move, Chair.
Rwy'n cynnig yn ffurfiol, Gadeirydd.
Minister, we are in a sprint to save lives and businesses and mental health. It is very welcome to hear today from the medical officer that the R rate has gone down and there is noticeable improvement in community transmission rates across our country. This is very encouraging. However, as we heard from Helen Whyley from the Royal College of Nursing on the BBC today, we cannot be complacent. The NHS is still under enormous pressure. So, we'll need to have a plan in place, not only for the new Kent variant of the vaccine that has spread across Wales, but also a plan in case further strains of the virus present themselves to us.
We must now concentrate on what we can control. We must ensure that the vaccine is rolled out at speed. Yes, it's great that we've caught up with Scotland and Northern Ireland, but we still, percentage wise, have a long way to go to catch up with England. Forty-four thousand vaccines need to be administered to reach that target—that's the size of Merthyr Tydfil. You can't be disingenuous and blame the snow for missing your target this week. The Government missed your own clear target that you gave of vaccinating 70 per cent of the over-80s. When are you going to reach that target? I have not heard you say when you're actually going to reach that target. We need to know that—not the blasé, 'We're going to reach everything by mid Feb.' We need to know clear targets.
We have a situation where couples are not being called to be vaccinated together, where carers are not being vaccinated at the same time as the person they're looking after. We have, for example, one mass vaccination centre in Monmouthshire delivering the Oxford vaccine only two days a week, whereas if it was moved to the Pfizer vaccine, it could be delivered seven days a week, like in Newport and Cwmbran. Simple practical steps are not happening. Our local health boards are doing their best, and I commend them for the work they've done—it's been fantastic—but these sorts of mini failures lie with you, Minister, and they have a massive impact on us getting the vaccine out as fast as possible.
The Government needs clear targets, it needs to publish more data on the roll-out, to be analysed not just by us but the general public, so that they can clearly what's going on. I run coronavirus help and support groups, and the information I put on there is the only information that a lot of people are getting because they go to the Government site and it's not there. You need clearer communication, easy-to-read communication, and understandable communication for the public on where you're at and what targets you're trying to meet.
A dedicated Minister to ensure the speedy and efficient roll-out seems to me to be an absolute must. You must have an awful lot on your plate, Minister, and I commend you for what you're doing, but this roll-out needs a dedicated person to ensure it's rolled out as soon as possible, not just for us, but the people of Wales—
Weinidog, rydym mewn ras i achub bywydau a busnesau ac iechyd meddwl. Mae croeso mawr i'r newydd heddiw gan y swyddog meddygol fod y gyfradd R wedi gostwng a bod gwelliant amlwg yng nghyfraddau'r trosglwyddiad cymunedol ledled ein gwlad. Mae hyn yn galonogol iawn. Fodd bynnag, fel y clywsom gan Helen Whyley o'r Coleg Nyrsio Brenhinol ar y BBC heddiw, ni allwn fod yn hunanfodlon. Mae'r GIG yn dal i fod o dan bwysau aruthrol. Felly, bydd angen i ni gael cynllun ar waith, nid yn unig ar gyfer amrywiolyn newydd Caint o'r clefyd sydd wedi lledaenu i bob rhan o Gymru, ond cynllun hefyd rhag ofn y bydd mathau pellach o'r feirws yn dod i'r amlwg.
Rhaid inni ganolbwyntio yn awr ar yr hyn y gallwn ei reoli. Rhaid inni sicrhau bod y brechlyn yn cael ei gyflwyno'n gyflym. Ydy, mae'n wych ein bod ni wedi dal i fyny gyda'r Alban a Gogledd Iwerddon, ond mae gennym ffordd bell i fynd i ddal i fyny â Lloegr o hyd. Mae angen darparu 44,000 o frechlynnau i gyrraedd y targed hwnnw—dyna faint Merthyr Tudful. Ni allwch fod yn ffuantus a beio'r eira am fethu eich targed yr wythnos hon. Methodd y Llywodraeth eich targed clir eich hun a roesoch o frechu 70 y cant o bobl dros 80 oed. Pa bryd y cyrhaeddwch y targed hwnnw? Nid wyf wedi eich clywed yn dweud pa bryd y cyrhaeddwch y targed hwnnw. Rhaid inni wybod hynny—nid yr honiad niwlog, 'Rydym yn mynd i gyrraedd popeth erbyn canol mis Chwefror.' Mae angen inni gael targedau clir.
Mae gennym sefyllfa lle nad yw cyplau'n cael eu galw i gael eu brechu gyda'i gilydd, lle nad yw gofalwyr yn cael eu brechu ar yr un pryd â'r person y maent yn gofalu amdanynt. Er enghraifft, dim ond ar ddau ddiwrnod yr wythnos y mae un ganolfan frechu torfol yn Sir Fynwy yn darparu brechlyn Rhydychen, ond pe bai'n newid i'r brechlyn Pfizer, gellid ei ddarparu saith diwrnod yr wythnos, fel yng Nghasnewydd a Chwmbrân. Nid yw camau ymarferol syml yn digwydd. Mae ein byrddau iechyd lleol yn gwneud eu gorau, ac rwy'n eu cymeradwyo am y gwaith y maent wedi'i wneud—mae wedi bod yn wych—ond chi, Weinidog, sy'n gyfrifol am y mathau hyn o fethiannau bach, ac maent yn cael effaith enfawr arnom o ran cael y brechlyn allan cyn gynted â phosibl.
Mae angen targedau clir ar y Llywodraeth, mae angen iddi gyhoeddi mwy o ddata ar gyflwyno'r rhaglen, i'w ddadansoddi nid yn unig gennym ni ond gan y cyhoedd, fel y gallant weld yn glir beth sy'n digwydd. Rwy'n cynnal grwpiau cymorth a chefnogaeth coronafeirws, a'r wybodaeth rwy'n ei rhoi yno yw'r unig wybodaeth y mae llawer o bobl yn ei chael am eu bod yn mynd i wefan y Llywodraeth ac nid yw yno. Mae angen cyfathrebu cliriach arnoch, cyfathrebu hawdd ei ddarllen, a chyfathrebu dealladwy i'r cyhoedd ynglŷn â ble rydych chi arni a pha dargedau rydych chi'n ceisio'u cyrraedd.
Ymddengys i mi fod rhaid cael Gweinidog penodedig i sicrhau bod y broses o gyflwyno'n digwydd yn gyflym ac yn effeithlon. Rhaid bod gennych lawer iawn o waith, Weinidog, ac rwy'n eich cymeradwyo am yr hyn rydych yn ei wneud, ond mae angen person penodedig ar y rhaglen gyflwyno i sicrhau ei bod yn cael ei chyflwyno cyn gynted ag y bo modd, nid yn unig i ni, ond i bobl Cymru—
Can you draw your remarks to a conclusion, please?
A wnewch chi ddirwyn eich sylwadau i ben, os gwelwch yn dda?
Many thanks.
Diolch yn fawr.
Mi fyddwn ni'n pleidleisio yn erbyn cynnig y Ceidwadwyr heddiw. Mi ydw i'n cyd-fynd â sawl elfen ohono fo. Dwi'n gresynu at ddechrau araf y cynllun yng Nghymru, er bod pethau yn amlwg yn cyflymu bellach. Ond dwi ddim, fel un pwynt penodol—. Wel, (1) dwi ddim eisiau cymryd gwersi gan y ffordd mae'r Llywodraeth yn Lloegr wedi delio efo'r pandemig, ond (2) dwi'n benodol ddim yn meddwl bod angen Gweinidog yn gyfrifol dim ond am frechu. Fel dwi wedi egluro o'r blaen, dwi'n credu bod hyn yn gymaint o flaenoriaeth i Gymru ar hyn o bryd bod rhaid i hyn fod yn ffocws y Gweinidog iechyd ei hun, a'r Prif Weinidog, hyd yn oed. Gallaf i ddim peidio â meddwl y byddai mynd trwy broses o benodi Gweinidog newydd yn amharu ar y ffocws sydd ei angen ar hyn yn hytrach na rhoi mwy o ffocws i'r gwaith.
Mi fyddwn ni hefyd heddiw yn pleidleisio yn erbyn gwelliant y Llywodraeth—eto, mae yna elfennau ohono fo dwi'n cyd-fynd â nhw—yn gyntaf, achos bod yna dal rhyw fethiant rhywsut i gydnabod a blaenoriaethu brys a chyflymder yn y broses frechu, ond hefyd, oherwydd bod y gwelliant yn cyfeirio cymaint at gyflenwad. Rydyn ni'n dal i aros am y data dwi wedi gofyn amdano fo dro ar ôl tro ynglŷn â chyflenwad, er mwyn gallu mesur hynny. Roeddwn i'n falch iawn bod y Gweinidog, o'r diwedd ddoe, yn ymateb i gwestiynau gen i, wedi cyfaddef y buasai gwneud data felly yn gyhoeddus yn beth da ac y bydd o'n gweld sut mae modd gwneud y ffigurau ar ddyraniadau y gwahanol frechlynnau i bedair gwlad y Deyrnas Unedig i weithio, drwy drafod hynny efo Gweinidogion ar draws y pedair gwlad. Mi edrychaf ymlaen at weld hynny yn digwydd.
O ran sylwadau pellach, dwi'n falch eto bod yna gyfle eto fan hyn i deulu teyrnged i dimau brechu ar draws yr NHS. Mae yna lawer iawn o dir wedi ei ennill, yn sicr, dros yr wythnos ddiwethaf. Mi ddylem ni i gyd ymfalchïo yn hynny. Ond rydym yn dal yn fyr o lle liciem ni fod a lle dywedodd y Llywodraeth y buasem ni erbyn hyn. Nid disgyn ychydig yn fyr o'r targed o frechu 70 y cant o bobl dros 80 oed ydy hitio 52.8 y cant; mae eisiau gonestrwydd yn hynny o beth. Felly, mi barhawn ni i ofyn cwestiynau, i wthio y Llywodraeth, i sicrhau bod y timau brechu yn cael y gefnogaeth a'r cyflenwadau maen nhw eu hangen.
Dau bwynt arall. Yn gyntaf, dwi eisiau gweld y buddsoddi sydd ei angen mewn isadeiledd brechu ar gyfer y cyfnod o'n blaenau ni. Nid dyma y tro olaf fydd angen brechu eang; rydym ni angen gwneud yn siŵr, pan rydym yn gorfod mynd trwy brosesau brechu fel hyn eto, o bosib fel rhan o'r pandemig yma, bod yna ddim arafwch fel rydym ni wedi'i weld yn digwydd dros y misoedd diwethaf yn cael ei ailadrodd. Mae angen buddsoddi mewn isadeiledd brechu ar gyfer hynny. Yn ail, dwi'n clywed bod Llafur yn Lloegr heddiw wedi gofyn am flaenoriaethu gweithwyr allweddol fel heddlu ac athrawon, fel dwi wedi'i wneud. Ymateb Llywodraeth Lafur Cymru ydy dweud, 'Na, mi fyddai hynny'n golygu dadflaenoriaethu pobl eraill'. Dwi'n dweud nad dadflaenoriaethu'r rheini sydd eisiau ond adeiladu mewn i'r system y cynllun ar gyfer sut mae'r grwpiau hynny yn cael eu cynnwys a'u hychwanegu at y cynlluniau sydd gennym ni ar hyn o bryd. Gadewch inni glywed hynny gan y Gweinidog yn ei ymateb o i'r ddadl yma heddiw. Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd.
We will be voting against the Conservative motion today. I agree with many elements of it. I do regret the slow start of the plan in Wales, although things are now speeding up. But on one specific point—. Well, (1) I don't want to take any lessons from the way in which the Government in England have dealt with the pandemic, but (2) I specifically don't think that we need a dedicated Minister for vaccination. As I've mentioned in the past, I think this is such of a priority for Wales at the moment that this has to be the focus of the health Minister, and the First Minister, even. I can't but think that going through the process of appointing a new Minister would actually diminish the focus required rather than providing full focus on this important work.
We will also be voting against the Government's amendment today—although there are elements of it on which I agree—first, because there is still some failure to recognise and to prioritise the pace of the vaccination process, but also because the amendment makes so much reference to supply. We are still waiting for the data that I have requested time and time again on supplies, so that we can measure that. I was very pleased that the Minister, at last yesterday, when responding to questions from me, has admitted that making such data public would be a positive step and that he is to consider how those figures on the allocation of the various vaccines to the four nations of the UK could work, by discussing that with Ministers across the four nations. I look forward to seeing that.
In terms of further comments, I'm pleased that we have an opportunity again to pay tribute to vaccination teams across the NHS. A great deal of ground has been gained over the past week, and we should all take pride in that. But we are still short of where we would like to be and where the Government told us we would be by this point. We're not just falling slightly short of the target of vaccinating 70 per cent of those over 80 when you hit only 52.8 per cent; we need honesty in that regard. Therefore, we will continue to ask questions and push the Government to ensure that the vaccination teams do receive the support and the supplies that they need.
Just two further points. First, I want to see the necessary investment in vaccination infrastructure for this period. This won't be the last time that we will need broad-ranging vaccination. We need to ensure that when we go through vaccination processes such as this again, possibly as part of this pandemic, we don't see the sluggishness that we have seen over the past few months. We need to invest in vaccination infrastructure. Secondly, I hear that Labour in England today called for the prioritisation of key workers such as teachers and police officers, as I have done. But the Labour Government here have said that we would be deprioritising others. I say that that's not deprioritising others, but building into the system that plan as to how those groups can be included and added to the plans that we currently have in place. So, let's hear that from the Minister in his response to this debate today. Thank you.
I want to welcome Angela Burns to the health portfolio, as I'm sure she would not have crafted this motion quite in this way. On point 2, we are supposed to be grateful that the significant supply of vaccines provided by the UK Conservative Government is being given to all home nations. I mean, is it not the job of the UK Government to deliver vaccines to the different nations and regions of the UK? That is their job. Why we should have to be grateful? Obviously, in other departments, they have treated Wales in a discriminatory way, in the way in which they distribute aid to Bristol Airport but not to Cardiff, or they renege on the Brexit promises that Wales would not be worse off financially, which is absolutely not true, or the billions that they're giving to HS2 but are not electrifying the south Wales main line beyond Swansea.
The Tories' five-point plan seems to be scoped to guarantee maximum chaos and minimum impact on the success of the Welsh vaccination programme. I have had many people suggesting that we ought to go along with the Tories' proposal for a vaccinations Minister, but in which case, which ministerial portfolio would you want to abolish? As Angela Burns well knows, the number of Ministers is restricted to 12; the alternative logic is that we have an online learning Minister, an active travel Minister, a bovine TB Minister. That is just not how Government operates. The second point is that you want all pharmacists and retired or former health professionals to be able to administer the vaccination. They are already doing that, but obviously they have to be vaccinated themselves before they start meeting lots of people, otherwise they'll be spreading the disease themselves. That's not a very good idea.
The final, genius idea is for a 24/7 vaccination centre across the country. How many people in the top four priority groups are going to be wanting to go along to have their jab at 03:00? How would they even get there when there are no buses running? There might well be demand for a 24/7 vaccination centre once we're vaccinating adults in their 20s—they can pop down there on their bikes; but not now. I'm fully aware of the concept of postcode lotteries, and indeed the inverse care law that applies to the disadvantaged, but the Tories have provided absolutely no evidence that this is what is happening with vaccinations in Wales. It's just false news thrown out to try and confuse the fact that the Welsh Labour Government is actually getting on with the job. And thank goodness there's very little chance of the Tories ever getting their hands on running the NHS in Wales.
I just want to point out that all the residents of the care homes in my constituency have already been vaccinated, and the remaining ones in Cardiff will have all been visited by the mobile vaccination unit by the day after tomorrow. All these care homes have already been—
Rwyf am groesawu Angela Burns i'r portffolio iechyd, gan fy mod yn siŵr na fyddai wedi llunio'r cynnig hwn yn union fel hyn. Ar bwynt 2, rydym i fod yn ddiolchgar fod y cyflenwad sylweddol o frechlynnau a ddarperir gan Lywodraeth Geidwadol y DU yn cael ei roi i bob un o'r gwledydd cartref. Hynny yw, onid gwaith Llywodraeth y DU yw darparu brechlynnau i wahanol wledydd a rhanbarthau'r DU? Dyna yw eu gwaith. Pam y dylem fod yn ddiolchgar? Yn amlwg, mewn adrannau eraill, maent wedi trin Cymru mewn ffordd wahaniaethol, yn y ffordd y maent yn dosbarthu cymorth i Faes Awyr Bryste ond nid i Gaerdydd, neu'r ffordd y maent yn torri addewidion Brexit na fyddai Cymru'n waeth eu byd yn ariannol, nad yw'n wir o gwbl, neu'r biliynau y maent yn eu rhoi i HS2 tra'n gwrthod trydaneiddio prif linell de Cymru y tu hwnt i Abertawe.
Mae'n ymddangos bod cynllun pum pwynt y Torïaid wedi'i gwmpasu er mwyn sicrhau'r anhrefn fwyaf a'r effaith leiaf ar lwyddiant rhaglen frechu Cymru. Rwyf wedi cael llawer o bobl yn awgrymu y dylem gydymffurfio â chynnig y Torïaid y dylid cael Gweinidog brechlynnau, ond os felly, pa bortffolio gweinidogol y byddech am ei ddiddymu? Fel y gŵyr Angela Burns yn dda, mae nifer y Gweinidogion wedi'i gyfyngu i 12; y rhesymeg amgen yw bod gennym Weinidog dysgu ar-lein, Gweinidog teithio llesol, Gweinidog TB mewn gwartheg. Nid dyna sut y mae'r Llywodraeth yn gweithredu. Yr ail bwynt yw eich bod am i bob fferyllydd a gweithiwr iechyd proffesiynol sydd wedi ymddeol neu gyn-weithwyr iechyd proffesiynol allu darparu'r brechiad. Maent eisoes yn gwneud hynny, ond mae'n amlwg fod rhaid eu brechu hwythau cyn iddynt ddechrau cyfarfod â llawer o bobl, neu fel arall byddant yn lledaenu'r clefyd eu hunain. Nid yw hynny'n syniad da iawn.
Y syniad olaf athrylithgar yw cael canolfannau brechu 24/7 ledled y wlad. Faint o bobl yn y pedwar prif grŵp blaenoriaeth uchaf fydd eisiau mynd draw i gael eu pigiad am 03:00? Sut y byddent yn cyrraedd yno hyd yn oed pan nad oes bysiau'n rhedeg? Mae'n ddigon posibl y bydd galw am ganolfan frechu 24/7 pan fyddwn yn brechu oedolion yn eu 20au—gallant alw heibio ar eu beiciau; ond nid nawr. Rwy'n gwbl ymwybodol o'r cysyniad o loterïau cod post, ac yn wir, y ddeddf gofal gwrthgyfartal sy'n berthnasol i'r difreintiedig, ond nid yw'r Torïaid wedi darparu unrhyw dystiolaeth o gwbl mai dyma sy'n digwydd gyda brechiadau yng Nghymru. Newyddion ffug ydyw a luchiwyd allan i geisio drysu'r ffaith bod Llywodraeth Lafur Cymru yn bwrw ymlaen â'r gwaith mewn gwirionedd. A diolch byth mai ychydig iawn o berygl sydd yna y caiff y Torïaid eu dwylo ar awenau'r GIG yng Nghymru.
Hoffwn dynnu sylw at y ffaith bod holl drigolion y cartrefi gofal yn fy etholaeth eisoes wedi cael eu brechu, a bydd yr uned frechu symudol eisoes wedi ymweld â gweddill y rhai yng Nghaerdydd erbyn y diwrnod ar ôl yfory. Mae'r holl gartrefi gofal hyn eisoes wedi—
Can the Member bring her remarks to a close, please?
A wnaiff yr Aelod ddirwyn ei sylwadau i ben, os gwelwch yn dda?
—eight weeks after the first, and GP surgeries are busy sorting out all the over-80s, and will then move on to the over-75s. In short, the Welsh vaccination programme is—[Interruption.]
—wyth wythnos ar ôl y cyntaf, ac mae meddygfeydd meddygon teulu yn brysur yn trefnu'r holl bobl dros 80 oed, a byddant yn symud ymlaen wedyn at bobl dros 75 oed. Yn fyr, mae rhaglen frechu Cymru—[Torri ar draws.]
You do need to bring your contribution to an end.
Mae angen i chi ddod â'ch cyfraniad i ben.
[Inaudible.]—vaccinate all these priority groups before the middle of next month.
[Anghlywadwy.]—brechu'r holl grwpiau blaenoriaeth hyn cyn canol y mis nesaf.
Before I start my contribution, I'll just say I'm disappointed to see amendments rejected when one amendment by Neil McEvoy reads:
'Calls on the Welsh Government to confirm whether it turned down 200,000 Pfizer vaccines at the beginning of January 2021.'
So, I'd like that as a specific question as part of my contribution.
Now, despite the Welsh Government receiving over 327,000 doses of both the Pfizer and the Oxford vaccine so far, we know that 312,305 have been used, leaving around 15,000 left to vaccinate. So, that's 15,000 risks to life. So, as the medics here have said in my constituency: you are simply failing to reach out to these residents quickly. We should note that Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board has seen the lowest percentage in Wales to be vaccinated, and this is made even more serious when considering that the board is responsible for the local authority area of Conwy county, with the highest percentage of older people aged 65. And I must make it clear that all those trained to vaccinate are wanting to vaccinate—so, absolutely no criticism on them. And I would like to say that Ysbyty Enfys, on Friday, despite the bad weather, managed to conduct 1,300 vaccines, working 13-hour days. So, we've got people there wanting to do this.
Now, I am still being bombarded—my office is as well—from concerned older residents. For example, I responded to an e-mail on Tuesday, which referred to a constituent aged 100 years old very worried about her vaccine. As two other constituents put it to me: 'The vaccination roll-out should be done at a sprint, and it is a competition against the virus, which, if lost, could result in thousands of lives lost unnecessarily in Wales.' Imagine how my constituents felt when learning that the pledge to vaccine 70 per cent of over-80s by the weekend was missed. Imagine how they feel when the local health board promised to open a local vaccination centre in Glasdir, Llanrwst, but cannot even provide an opening date. Imagine how they feel when the same health board promised to send a letter to every household in north Wales, but a lot of my constituents haven't received it. Imagine how they feel when they see that Venue Cymru is still not operating seven days a week, and imagine how they feel when friends and family younger than them are receiving vaccines in England, whilst they are still waiting here in Wales. They are fearful for their lives, upset, and suffering serious anxiety. And a local GP said to me only yesterday: 'This is now playing heavily in terms of mental health issues.' We all need to see urgent changes, and the Welsh Conservative plan offers that change. Imagine how my constituents feel when they learn that you simply choose to delete our proposal.
And finally, will you take heed of our older people’s commissioner and the fact that she too is disappointed with the missed targets? She also calls for some reassurance, and I'm asking for that reassurance, that those targets that you have set now to vaccinate all those living in and working in a care home by the end of January, and all over-70s by mid February will be met. The people of Wales deserve this, and you as a Welsh Government are responsible for the delivery of this. Diolch.
Cyn i mi ddechrau fy nghyfraniad, rwyf am ddweud fy mod yn siomedig o weld gwelliannau'n cael eu gwrthod pan fo un gwelliant gan Neil McEvoy:
Yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i gadarnhau a wnaeth wrthod 200,000 o frechlynnau Pfizer ar ddechrau mis Ionawr 2021.
Felly, hoffwn i hynny fod yn gwestiwn penodol fel rhan o fy nghyfraniad.
Nawr, er i Lywodraeth Cymru dderbyn dros 327,000 dos o frechlynnau Pfizer a Rhydychen hyd yma, gwyddom fod 312,305 wedi'u defnyddio, gan adael tua 15,000 ar ôl i'w brechu. Felly, dyna 15,000 risg i fywyd. Felly, fel y mae'r meddygon yma wedi'i ddweud yn fy etholaeth i: rydych yn methu cyrraedd y trigolion hyn yn gyflym. Dylem nodi mai Bwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Betsi Cadwaladr sydd wedi gweld y ganran isaf yng Nghymru yn cael eu brechu, ac mae hyn hyd yn oed yn fwy difrifol wrth ystyried fod y bwrdd yn gyfrifol am ardal awdurdod lleol sir Conwy, gyda'r ganran uchaf o bobl dros 65 oed. A rhaid imi ddweud yn glir fod pawb sydd wedi'u hyfforddi i frechu eisiau brechu—felly, nid wyf yn eu beirniadu hwy o gwbl. A hoffwn ddweud bod Ysbyty Enfys, ddydd Gwener, er gwaethaf y tywydd gwael, wedi llwyddo i ddarparu 1,300 o frechlynnau, gan weithio dyddiau 13 awr o hyd. Felly, mae gennym bobl yno sydd eisiau gwneud hyn.
Nawr, mae llawer o drigolion hŷn pryderus yn dal i gysylltu â fy swyddfa a minnau. Er enghraifft, ymatebais i e-bost ddydd Mawrth a gyfeiriai at etholwr 100 oed sy'n poeni'n fawr am ei brechlyn. Fel y dywedodd dau etholwr arall wrthyf: 'Dylid cyflwyno'r brechlynnau'n gyflym, ac mae'n gystadleuaeth yn erbyn y feirws, a byddai colli'r gystadleuaeth yn arwain at golli miloedd o fywydau'n ddiangen yng Nghymru.' Dychmygwch sut roedd fy etholwyr yn teimlo wrth glywed bod yr addewid i frechu 70 y cant o bobl dros 80 oed erbyn y penwythnos wedi'i dorri. Dychmygwch sut y maent yn teimlo pan addawodd y bwrdd iechyd lleol agor canolfan frechu leol yn Glasdir, Llanrwst, ond ni allant ddarparu dyddiad agor hyd yn oed. Dychmygwch sut y maent yn teimlo pan addawodd yr un bwrdd iechyd anfon llythyr at bob cartref yng ngogledd Cymru, ond mae llawer o fy etholwyr heb ei gael. Dychmygwch sut y maent yn teimlo wrth weld nad yw Venue Cymru yn gweithredu saith diwrnod yr wythnos o hyd, a dychmygwch sut y maent yn teimlo pan fydd ffrindiau a theulu iau na hwy'n cael brechlyn yn Lloegr, tra'u bod yn dal i aros yma yng Nghymru. Maent yn ofnus am eu bywydau, yn ofidus, ac yn dioddef gorbryder difrifol. A dywedodd meddyg teulu lleol wrthyf ddoe ddiwethaf: 'Mae hyn bellach yn effeithio'n wael o ran problemau iechyd meddwl.' Mae angen i bob un ohonom weld newidiadau ar frys, ac mae cynllun y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig yn cynnig y newid hwnnw. Dychmygwch sut y mae fy etholwyr yn teimlo wrth glywed eich bod yn dewis dileu ein cynnig.
Ac yn olaf, a wnewch chi wrando ar ein comisiynydd pobl hŷn a'r ffaith ei bod hithau hefyd yn siomedig ynghylch y targedau y methwyd eu cyrraedd? Mae hefyd yn galw am sicrwydd, ac rwy'n gofyn am y sicrwydd hwnnw, y bydd y targedau rydych wedi'u gosod nawr i frechu pawb sy'n byw neu'n gweithio mewn cartref gofal erbyn diwedd mis Ionawr, a phawb dros 70 oed erbyn canol mis Chwefror, yn cael eu cyrraedd. Mae pobl Cymru yn haeddu hyn, a chi fel Llywodraeth Cymru sy'n gyfrifol am gyflawni hyn. Diolch.
There's no doubt that, initially, the vaccine roll-out in Wales could be said to be tardy, but we have to acknowledge that the Welsh Government very quickly got its act together and the figures show that we are now in advance of both Scotland and Northern Ireland, and very close to figures for England. I will, of course, point out here that we are far in advance of southern Ireland whose presence in the European Union left them exposed to the bureaucratic debacle we have witnessed over vaccines there.
I would like to support item 1 on this motion and acknowledge the swift action taken by the UK Government in its acquisition and acceptance of the authorisation for vaccines and their distribution to the UK as a whole. This was, of course, only possible because of Brexit and the freedom of the UK to work unilaterally. This is in complete contrast to the European bureaucratic debacle, though I would add that I take no pleasure in the discomfort of our colleague citizens in Europe.
We shall not be supporting 4a in the motion, but we will be supporting 4b, because there is a great deal of anecdotal evidence showing that—[Inaudible.]—procedures are too complicated and time-consuming. We will be supporting the Welsh Government's amendments, and we would call upon the Welsh Government to continue the progress made to date, because it is becoming obvious that mass vaccination is the only way out of continued lockdown.
One thing I would like to draw the Government's attention to is the fact that we are sending out personal letters to those who are to be later notified of their attendance for vaccination. As, quite rightly, they are in both Welsh and English, each letter contains four pages. We would question the necessity for this letter, as it simply notifies the recipient that they will be notified at a later date. Given that approximately 2 million of such notifications must be sent out, can we call on the Welsh Government to reconsider this strategy? Thank you. Quite ridiculous.
I ddechrau, gellir dweud heb amheuaeth fod y broses o gyflwyno'r brechlyn yng Nghymru yn araf, ond mae'n rhaid inni gydnabod bod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi gwella'i pherfformiad yn gyflym iawn ac mae'r ffigurau'n dangos ein bod bellach yn gwneud yn well na'r Alban a Gogledd Iwerddon, ac yn agos iawn at y ffigurau ar gyfer Lloegr. Rwyf am nodi yma wrth gwrs ein bod ymhell ar y blaen i dde Iwerddon y gadawodd eu presenoldeb yn yr Undeb Ewropeaidd hwy'n agored i'r llanast biwrocrataidd rydym wedi'i weld gyda brechlynnau yno.
Hoffwn gefnogi eitem 1 y cynnig hwn a chydnabod y camau cyflym a roddwyd ar waith gan Lywodraeth y DU i gaffael a derbyn yr awdurdodiad ar gyfer brechlynnau a'u dosbarthiad i'r DU gyfan. Ni fu hyn ond yn bosibl oherwydd Brexit wrth gwrs, a rhyddid y DU i weithio'n unochrog. Mae'n gwbl groes i'r llanast biwrocrataidd yn Ewrop, er fy mod am ychwanegu nad yw anghysur ein cyd-ddinasyddion yn Ewrop yn rhoi unrhyw bleser i mi.
Ni fyddwn yn cefnogi 4a yn y cynnig, ond byddwn yn cefnogi 4b, oherwydd mae llawer iawn o dystiolaeth anecdotaidd yn dangos bod—[Anghlywadwy.]—gweithdrefnau'n rhy gymhleth ac yn cymryd llawer o amser. Byddwn yn cefnogi gwelliannau Llywodraeth Cymru, a byddem yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i barhau â'r cynnydd a wnaed hyd yma, oherwydd mae'n dod yn amlwg mai brechu torfol yw'r unig ffordd allan o'r cyfyngiadau symud parhaus.
Un peth yr hoffwn dynnu sylw'r Llywodraeth ato yw'r ffaith ein bod yn anfon llythyrau personol at y rhai sydd i'w hysbysu yn nes ymlaen ynglŷn â'u hapwyntiad i gael eu brechu. Gan eu bod, a hynny'n gwbl briodol, yn Gymraeg ac yn Saesneg, mae pob llythyr yn bedair tudalen o hyd. Byddem yn cwestiynu'r angen am y llythyr hwn, gan mai hysbysu'r derbynnydd y byddant yn cael eu gwahodd ar ddyddiad diweddarach yn unig y mae'n ei wneud. O gofio bod yn rhaid anfon tua 2 filiwn hysbysiad o'r fath, a gawn ni alw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i ailystyried y strategaeth hon? Diolch. Cwbl hurt.
I hope one advantage of sending out those letters is when people get them, fewer will be ringing up and complaining that they haven't got it and worrying and taking time that could be used for the programme, and I hope everyone will get their vaccinations when they are offered.
We support the motion that is before us today. We intend to abstain on the Government amendment, but support the motion if it is amended. Just one point around the Conservative motion—appointing a Welsh Government vaccines Minister, we think that Plaid Cymru are right to argue that it shouldn't be a new Minister, and I think Jenny Rathbone said it would be disruptive at this stage to appoint a new Minister. We agree with that, and in the Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party, we would like to see Welsh Government appoint the existing vaccines Minister, who is doing a very good job, Nadhim Zahawi, a UK Minister. He should be given an overview role, and particularly with that supply interface, working with what Welsh Government is doing.
I'd like to say congratulations to Welsh Government on the past week, because they have been vaccinating at around the same speed as in England. There's still a great shortfall to make up, but the past week's progress has been good, notwithstanding the snow. It would be good, though, to know when we do now expect to hit that over-80s 70 per cent target the First Minister told me yesterday wasn't met when it should have been.
Looking at congratulating the UK Conservative Government versus congratulating the MHRA, actually, we think they should all be congratulated, and the MHRA is an independent regulator, not just independent of the UK Government, but independent of the European Union and the European Medicines Agency process, and it is the UK Government that ensured the MHRA could and did proceed without waiting for that EMA process. It's been fantastic for us that that's happened, and very unfortunate for the European Union that the EMA has delayed things to such an extent with the EU Commission, and in particular when four national Governments were taking a hand and then great delay happened after that. It's most unfortunate.
The other person I think deserves huge congratulation is Kate Bingham and her vaccines taskforce, everyone who worked on that. All it seemed to get—she got brickbats and criticism for taking part in a private equity conference explaining how successful the programme was and what she had done to do that. She wasn't even paid for what she did. So, Kate, thank you very much for that work. It was very, very important.
So, what we would like to see is the vaccination process speed up, but we've got a good supply. It's not perfect; there's a reference in the Government amendments to delays in supply, and obviously we are dependent on that supply, but the supply has been very, very good. It's hardly surprising that there was one batch of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine that had to be redone and there was a period to do that. Of course, it's a new manufacturing process. And actually it's been done very, very well.
We heard Jenny Rathbone say that we shouldn't be grateful to the UK Government because it's only doing its job. And of course she's right, it is doing its job, but it is doing its job very, very well on this vaccination side, and for that I think we should be grateful. Only Israel, I think, has done a better job than the UK Government, and I think we should recognise that—everyone involved, the vaccines taskforce, MHRA, the overall supply. I'm pleased to see Welsh Government catching up with what it's meant to be doing on its side, and let's celebrate what's been achieved on the vaccination side.
Rwy'n gobeithio mai un fantais o anfon y llythyrau hynny yw y bydd eu cael yn arwain at lai o bobl yn ffonio i gwyno nad ydynt wedi'i gael ac yn poeni ac yn mynd ag amser y gellid ei ddefnyddio ar gyfer y rhaglen, ac rwy'n gobeithio y bydd pawb yn cael eu brechiadau pan gânt eu cynnig.
Rydym yn cefnogi'r cynnig sydd ger ein bron heddiw. Bwriadwn ymatal ar welliant y Llywodraeth, ond byddwn yn cefnogi'r cynnig os caiff ei ddiwygio. Dim ond un pwynt ynghylch cynnig y Ceidwadwyr—penodi Gweinidog brechlynnau Llywodraeth Cymru, credwn fod Plaid Cymru yn iawn i ddadlau na ddylai fod yn Weinidog newydd, a chredaf i Jenny Rathbone ddweud y byddai penodi Gweinidog newydd yn ymyrraeth ar hyn o bryd. Rydym yn cytuno â hynny, ac ym Mhlaid Diddymu Cynulliad Cymru, hoffem weld Llywodraeth Cymru yn penodi'r Gweinidog brechlynnau presennol, sy'n gwneud gwaith da iawn, Nadhim Zahawi, un o Weinidogion y DU. Dylid rhoi rôl drosolwg iddo, ac yn enwedig gyda'r rhyngwyneb cyflenwi, i weithio gyda'r hyn y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei wneud.
Hoffwn longyfarch Llywodraeth Cymru ar yr wythnos a aeth heibio, oherwydd maent wedi bod yn brechu ar oddeutu'r un cyflymder ag yn Lloegr. Mae diffyg mawr i wneud iawn amdano o hyd, ond mae cynnydd yr wythnos ddiwethaf wedi bod yn dda, er gwaethaf yr eira. Byddai'n dda gwybod yn awr, serch hynny, pa bryd rydym yn disgwyl cyrraedd y targed o 70 y cant o bobl dros 80 oed y dywedodd Prif Weinidog Cymru wrthyf ddoe na chafodd ei gyrraedd pan ddylai fod wedi'i gyrraedd.
Wrth edrych ar longyfarch Llywodraeth Geidwadol y DU neu longyfarch yr Asiantaeth Rheoleiddio Meddyginiaethau a Chynhyrchion Gofal Iechyd (MHRA), credwn y dylid llongyfarch pawb ohonynt mewn gwirionedd, ac mae'r MHRA yn rheoleiddiwr annibynnol, sydd nid yn unig yn annibynnol ar Lywodraeth y DU, ond yn annibynnol ar yr Undeb Ewropeaidd a phroses yr Asiantaeth Feddyginiaethau Ewropeaidd, a Llywodraeth y DU a sicrhaodd y gallai ac y byddai'r MHRA yn bwrw ymlaen heb aros am broses yr Asiantaeth Feddyginiaethau Ewropeaidd. Mae wedi bod yn wych i ni fod hynny wedi digwydd, ac yn anffodus iawn i'r Undeb Ewropeaidd fod yr Asiantaeth Feddyginiaethau Ewropeaidd wedi oedi pethau i'r fath raddau gyda Chomisiwn yr UE, ac yn enwedig pan oedd pedair Llywodraeth genedlaethol yn ymyrryd a bod oedi mawr wedi digwydd ar ôl hynny. Mae'n anffodus iawn.
Y person arall y credaf ei bod yn haeddu ei llongyfarch yn fawr yw Kate Bingham a'i thasglu brechlynnau, pawb a fu'n gweithio ar hynny. Y cyfan yr ymddangosai ei fod yn ei gael—cafodd feirniadaeth am gymryd rhan mewn cynhadledd ecwiti preifat i esbonio pa mor llwyddiannus oedd y rhaglen a'r hyn roedd hi wedi'i wneud ar hynny. Ni chafodd ei thalu am yr hyn a wnaeth hyd yn oed. Felly, Kate, diolch yn fawr am y gwaith hwnnw. Roedd yn bwysig tu hwnt.
Felly, yr hyn yr hoffem ei weld yw'r broses frechu'n cyflymu, ond mae gennym gyflenwad da. Nid yw'n berffaith; mae cyfeiriad yng ngwelliannau'r Llywodraeth at oedi o ran cyflenwi, ac mae'n amlwg ein bod yn dibynnu ar y cyflenwad hwnnw, ond mae'r cyflenwad wedi bod yn dda iawn. Nid yw'n syndod fod un swp o frechlyn Rhydychen-AstraZeneca wedi gorfod cael ei ail-wneud a chafwyd cyfnod ar gyfer gwneud hynny. Wrth gwrs, mae'n broses weithgynhyrchu newydd. Ac mewn gwirionedd mae wedi cael ei wneud yn dda iawn.
Clywsom Jenny Rathbone yn dweud na ddylem fod yn ddiolchgar i Lywodraeth y DU gan mai dim ond gwneud ei gwaith y mae hi. Ac wrth gwrs, mae hi'n gywir, mae'n gwneud ei gwaith, ond mae'n gwneud ei gwaith yn dda iawn ar yr ochr frechu, ac am hynny rwy'n credu y dylem fod yn ddiolchgar. Dim ond Israel, rwy'n credu, sydd wedi gwneud gwaith gwell na Llywodraeth y DU, a chredaf y dylem gydnabod hynny—pawb sy'n rhan o'r gwaith, y tasglu brechlynnau, MHRA, y cyflenwad cyffredinol. Rwy'n falch o weld Llywodraeth Cymru yn dal i fyny â'r hyn y mae i fod i'w wneud ar ei hochr hi, a gadewch inni ddathlu'r hyn sydd wedi'i gyflawni ar yr ochr frechu.
Thank you. I now call the Minister for Health and Social Services, Vaughan Gething.
Diolch. Galwaf yn awr ar Vaughan Gething, y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol.
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I welcome the opportunity to debate the roll-out of the COVID vaccine programme today. The vaccination programme is our top priority, and we're doing everything we can to vaccinate as many people as quickly and as safely as possible with the minimum amount of wastage. We should all reflect upon how far we've come in such a short space of time. The vaccines we're using were only approved in December, with Pfizer in early December and the most recent, Oxford-AstraZeneca, less than a month ago.
In Wales, we're now delivering the fastest growing vaccine programme within the UK, with the quickest rate over the last week of any UK nation, and we're doing so in line with the advice of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, and we will not be throwing away the independent expert advice of the JCVI, Public Health Wales and the chief medical officer. That advice on priority groups is based on protecting and saving the maximum number of lives, and I will not depart from it. A huge amount of work was completed nationally and locally before any patients could be safely and legally vaccinated, including creating and then using vaccine-specific training, patient group directions and protocols, professional guidance and patient information resources. None of this can take place before vaccines are approved and the characteristics are known.
As of today, we have vaccinated at least 312,305 people in Wales. That's an increase of more than 22,700 on yesterday's figures. That's almost one in 10 of our population, and that is thanks to a Herculean effort by everyone involved. This is the biggest challenge we have faced as a nation in peacetime, and the planning, logistics and mobilisation of people involved has been an immense undertaking. And we do have a robust plan for delivery. The roll-out of the AstraZeneca vaccine and the involvement of primary care in administration has meant that we have been able to substantially increase the pace of vaccine delivery, especially over the last two weeks, and we are now vaccinating someone every five seconds, which is a startling figure and shows you something about the pace of our delivery here in Wales.
We hit two markers in our vaccine strategy last week in offering all front-line Welsh ambulance service staff their first dose of the vaccine. We also exceeded our end of January marker to have more than 250 GP practices deploying the vaccine. I announced on Monday we had at least 329 GP locations and over 300 practices involved in running vaccine clinics. Our approach encompasses all primary care professionals, including dentists, optometrists and pharmacists as well as GPs in the delivery of the vaccine programme. This includes a community pharmacy pilot, community vaccination centres and, from last weekend, clusters of GP practices running clinics in local communities. And those three GP cluster clinics that ran last weekend administered over 3,000 vaccines with the Pfizer vaccine, despite the snow. Many of those, of course, in the priority over-80s group. This is a significant step forward in terms of increasing our capacity to deliver the vaccine outside of mass-vaccination centres and closer to home, especially in those communities where access to these larger centres is difficult. Health boards will continue to work with GP practices across Wales to establish whether this can be rolled out more widely and to further build the capacity and speed at which the Pfizer vaccine can be deployed. And we are also making strong progress towards our final marker—that is, offering a vaccine to all care home residents and staff by the end of this month. We're currently vaccinating on average around 1,000 care home residents a day. Already over 11,000 care home residents at least, or nearly 70 per cent of this priority group at least, have already received their first dose, and more than three quarters of our care home staff have also received their first dose.
And on the original motion, whilst I recognise and respect the UK Government's role in securing these vital vaccines, and I do have a practical, grown-up working relationship with Whitehall Ministers, the subject of vaccine supply is always part of our discussions. We all recognise that we cannot succeed without it, and the provision of vaccines is, of course, a matter of fact. We started before other European countries because the independent regulator approved the vaccines for use. The vaccine supply chain itself is complex, and our plans adapt constantly to changes to delivery volumes and schedules, all of which have the potential to impact on achieving the milestones in our plan. Currently, health boards have a balance plan that is kept under constant review, in line with that changing information on the supply schedules. I'll be writing to the vaccines Minister for formal confirmation that we will be provided with sufficient vaccine in the short term to be able to vaccinate our mid-February milestone of cohorts one to four, to provide clarity and assurance that is needed to inform our expectations in the planning process, and I'll publish the letter and the response through correspondence with the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, so Members will have access to it.
On perceived red tape, health boards are already making the process of onboarding volunteers—[Inaudible.]—as streamlined as possible. There will, of course, be some parts of the process that are necessary to ensure patient safeguarding. There are already clear targets published in the vaccine plan, with daily information on the number of people vaccinated already being published and more detail being planned week on week. An army of people is involved in the deployment programme, including the military. A sustainable infrastructure has been our priority and it is now paying dividends. We already have 30 mass-vaccination centres and are using 70 acute and community hospital sites to roll out more centres as we progress through cohorts one to four. Health boards already vaccinate seven days a week and work extended hours. We're monitoring take-up of late and early appointments, and we'll continue to review as we move through the age cohorts to ensure that we reach as many people as quickly as possible.
And of course, Wales already has a Minister in charge of vaccines and that is me. It is ludicrous to suggest that the Welsh Government would ever turn down a supply of vaccines that are essential to protect our people. This never has been done nor would be done, and the suggestion is wholly without foundation. It is wearing and irresponsible to use this national Parliament as a platform for scaremongering fiction, and I'm disappointed to hear Conservatives helping to promote fake news and being prepared to vote for it.
I am committed to transparency in the roll-out programme. Last week, we began daily releases of data, showing—
Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n croesawu'r cyfle i drafod cyflwyno'r rhaglen frechu COVID heddiw. Y rhaglen frechu yw ein prif flaenoriaeth, ac rydym yn gwneud popeth yn ein gallu i frechu cynifer o bobl â phosibl cyn gynted ac mor ddiogel â phosibl gyda'r lleiafswm o wastraff. Dylem i gyd ystyried pa mor bell rydym wedi dod mewn cyfnod mor fyr. Dim ond ym mis Rhagfyr y cymeradwywyd y brechlynnau rydym yn eu defnyddio, gyda Pfizer ddechrau mis Rhagfyr a'r diweddaraf, Rhydychen-AstraZeneca, lai na mis yn ôl.
Yng Nghymru, rydym bellach yn darparu'r rhaglen frechu sy'n tyfu gyflymaf yn y DU, gyda'r gyfradd gyflymaf dros yr wythnos ddiwethaf yn unrhyw wlad yn y DU, ac rydym yn gwneud hynny'n unol â chyngor y Cyd-bwyllgor ar Imiwneiddio a Brechu, ac ni fyddwn yn diystyru cyngor arbenigol annibynnol y Cyngor ar Imiwneiddio a Brechu, Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru a'r prif swyddog meddygol. Mae'r cyngor ar grwpiau blaenoriaeth yn seiliedig ar ddiogelu ac achub y nifer fwyaf o fywydau sy'n bosibl, ac nid wyf yn mynd i wyro oddi wrtho. Cwblhawyd llawer iawn o waith yn genedlaethol ac yn lleol cyn y gellid brechu unrhyw gleifion yn ddiogel ac yn gyfreithiol, gan gynnwys creu ac yna defnyddio hyfforddiant ar frechlynnau penodol, cyfarwyddiadau a phrotocolau ar gyfer grwpiau o gleifion, canllawiau proffesiynol ac adnoddau gwybodaeth cleifion. Ni all hyn ddigwydd cyn i frechlynnau gael eu cymeradwyo a chyn bod eu priodoleddau'n hysbys.
Erbyn heddiw, rydym wedi brechu o leiaf 312,305 o bobl yng Nghymru. Dyna gynnydd o fwy na 22,700 ar ffigurau ddoe. Mae hynny bron yn un o bob 10 o'n poblogaeth, a diolch i ymdrech anferthol pawb sy'n gysylltiedig. Dyma'r her fwyaf rydym wedi'i hwynebu fel cenedl mewn adeg o heddwch, ac mae cynllunio, logisteg a pharatoi'r bobl sy'n rhan o'r ymdrech wedi bod yn waith aruthrol. Ac mae gennym gynllun cadarn ar gyfer cyflawni. Mae cyflwyno brechlyn AstraZeneca ac ymwneud gofal sylfaenol yn ei ddarparu wedi golygu ein bod wedi gallu cyflymu'r broses o ddarparu brechlynnau'n sylweddol, yn enwedig dros y pythefnos diwethaf, ac rydym bellach yn brechu rhywun bob pum eiliad, sy'n ffigur syfrdanol ac yn dweud rhywbeth wrthych am gyflymder ein darpariaeth yma yng Nghymru.
Gwnaethom gyrraedd dau nod yn ein strategaeth frechu yr wythnos diwethaf drwy gynnig eu dos cyntaf o'r brechlyn i holl staff rheng flaen gwasanaeth ambiwlans Cymru. Gwnaethom hefyd ragori ar ein nod ar gyfer diwedd mis Ionawr i gael mwy na 250 o bractisau meddygon teulu i ddarparu'r brechlyn. Cyhoeddais ddydd Llun fod gennym o leiaf 329 o leoliadau meddygon teulu a thros 300 o bractisau'n ymwneud â rhedeg clinigau brechu. Mae ein dull o weithredu yn cynnwys pob gweithiwr proffesiynol gofal sylfaenol, gan gynnwys deintyddion, optometryddion a fferyllwyr yn ogystal â meddygon teulu yn rhan o'r gwaith o gyflwyno'r rhaglen frechu. Mae hyn yn cynnwys cynllun peilot fferylliaeth gymunedol, canolfannau brechu cymunedol, ac ers y penwythnos diwethaf, clystyrau o bractisau meddygon teulu'n rhedeg clinigau mewn cymunedau lleol. Ac fe roddodd y tri chlwstwr o bractisau meddygon teulu a oedd yn gweithredu y penwythnos diwethaf dros 3,000 o frechiadau gyda'r brechlyn Pfizer, er gwaethaf yr eira. Mae llawer o'r rheini, wrth gwrs, yn y grŵp blaenoriaeth i bobl dros 80 oed. Mae hwn yn gam sylweddol ymlaen o ran cynyddu ein gallu i ddarparu'r brechlyn y tu allan i ganolfannau brechu torfol ac yn nes adref, yn enwedig yn y cymunedau lle mae mynediad at y canolfannau mwy o faint yn anodd. Bydd byrddau iechyd yn parhau i weithio gyda phractisau meddygon teulu ledled Cymru i weld a ellir cyflwyno hyn yn ehangach ac i adeiladu capasiti a chyflymder pellach ar gyfer darparu'r brechlyn Pfizer. Ac rydym hefyd yn gwneud cynnydd cadarn tuag at ein nod nesaf—sef cynnig brechlyn i holl breswylwyr a staff cartrefi gofal erbyn diwedd y mis hwn. Ar hyn o bryd rydym yn brechu tua 1,000 o breswylwyr cartrefi gofal bob dydd ar gyfartaledd. Eisoes mae dros 11,000 o breswylwyr cartrefi gofal fan lleiaf, neu bron i 70 y cant o'r grŵp blaenoriaeth hwn o leiaf, eisoes wedi cael eu dos cyntaf, ac mae mwy na thri chwarter staff ein cartrefi gofal hefyd wedi cael eu dos cyntaf.
Ac ar y cynnig gwreiddiol, er fy mod yn cydnabod ac yn parchu rôl Llywodraeth y DU yn sicrhau'r brechlynnau hanfodol hyn, ac mae gennyf berthynas waith ymarferol, aeddfed â Gweinidogion Whitehall, mae'r cyflenwad o frechlynnau bob amser yn rhan o'n trafodaethau. Rydym i gyd yn cydnabod na allwn lwyddo hebddo, ac mae darparu brechlynnau, wrth gwrs, yn fater o ffaith. Dechreuasom cyn gwledydd eraill Ewrop oherwydd bod y rheoleiddiwr annibynnol wedi cymeradwyo'r brechlynnau i'w defnyddio. Mae'r gadwyn gyflenwi brechlynnau ei hun yn gymhleth, ac mae ein cynlluniau'n addasu'n gyson i newidiadau i feintiau ac amserlenni cyflenwadau, ac mae gan bob un allu i effeithio ar y gwaith o gyflawni'r cerrig milltir yn ein cynllun. Ar hyn o bryd, mae gan fyrddau iechyd gynllun cydbwysedd sy'n cael ei adolygu'n gyson, yn unol â'r wybodaeth newidiol am yr amserlenni cyflenwi. Byddaf yn ysgrifennu at y Gweinidog brechlynnau i gael cadarnhad ffurfiol y cawn ddigon o frechlyn yn y tymor byr i allu brechu ein carreg filltir canol mis Chwefror o garfanau un i bedwar, er mwyn rhoi'r eglurder a'r sicrwydd sydd eu hangen i lywio ein disgwyliadau yn y broses gynllunio, a byddaf yn cyhoeddi'r llythyr a'r ymateb drwy ohebiaeth â'r Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon, felly bydd yr Aelodau'n gallu ei gweld.
O ran y canfyddiad o fiwrocratiaeth, mae byrddau iechyd eisoes yn gwneud y broses o gynnwys gwirfoddolwyr—[Anghlywadwy.]—mor syml â phosibl. Wrth gwrs, bydd rhai rhannau o'r broses yn angenrheidiol i sicrhau diogelwch cleifion. Mae targedau clir eisoes wedi'u cyhoeddi yn y cynllun brechu, gyda gwybodaeth ddyddiol am nifer y bobl a frechwyd eisoes yn cael ei chyhoeddi a mwy o fanylion yn cael eu cynllunio o wythnos i wythnos. Mae llu o bobl yn rhan o'r rhaglen ddarparu, gan gynnwys y fyddin. Seilwaith cynaliadwy yw ein blaenoriaeth wedi bod ac mae bellach yn talu ar ei ganfed. Eisoes, mae gennym 30 o ganolfannau brechu torfol ac rydym yn defnyddio 70 o safleoedd ysbyty acíwt a chymunedol i gyflwyno mwy o ganolfannau wrth inni symud ymlaen drwy garfanau un i bedwar. Mae byrddau iechyd eisoes yn brechu saith diwrnod yr wythnos ac yn gweithio oriau estynedig. Rydym yn monitro'r nifer sy'n manteisio ar apwyntiadau hwyr a chynnar, a byddwn yn parhau i adolygu wrth inni symud drwy'r carfannau oedran i sicrhau ein bod yn cyrraedd cynifer o bobl â phosibl.
Ac wrth gwrs, mae gan Gymru Weinidog sy'n gyfrifol am frechlynnau eisoes, sef fi. Mae'n chwerthinllyd awgrymu y byddai Llywodraeth Cymru yn gwrthod cyflenwad o frechlynnau sy'n hanfodol i ddiogelu ein pobl. Nid yw hyn erioed wedi'i wneud ac ni fyddai byth yn cael ei wneud, ac mae'r awgrym yn gwbl ddi-sail. Mae defnyddio'r Senedd genedlaethol hon fel llwyfan ar gyfer ffuglen sy'n codi bwganod yn flinderus ac yn anghyfrifol, ac rwy'n siomedig o glywed y Ceidwadwyr yn helpu i hyrwyddo newyddion ffug ac yn barod i bleidleisio drosto.
Rwyf wedi ymrwymo i dryloywder yn y rhaglen gyflwyno. Yr wythnos diwethaf, dechreuasom ryddhau data bob dydd, i ddangos—
I do have to ask the Minister to wind up, please.
Rhaid imi ofyn i'r Gweinidog ddirwyn i ben, os gwelwch yn dda.
—the total cumulative number of vaccinations and we will continue to do so openly and transparently. We have scale and pace in our programme. As long as we receive our fair share of vaccines in fair times, I'm confident we'll achieve the milestones set out in our strategy.
—cyfanswm cronnol y brechiadau a byddwn yn parhau i wneud hynny'n agored ac yn dryloyw. Mae ein rhaglen yn un fawr a chyflym. Cyn belled â'n bod yn derbyn ein cyfran deg o frechlynnau mewn amser teg, rwy'n hyderus y byddwn yn cyflawni'r cerrig milltir a nodir yn ein strategaeth.
Thank you. I call on Suzy Davies to reply to the debate.
Diolch. Galwaf ar Suzy Davies i ymateb i'r ddadl.
Thank you, Dirprwy Lywydd, and can I thank all Members for their contributions? No-one is suggesting this is easy, which is why congratulating the UK Government on securing supplies so quickly really shouldn't have been very difficult. But I'm afraid, Minister, that you and the First Minister have made this a far more fraught experience that it needed to be, because of the poor communication surrounding your plans, as pointed out by Laura Jones. I think the least you can do is get that right, because you need our constituents to trust you. Our poor old health boards are dealing with all this; they're having to divert precious time answering constituents' questions on all this because of your central messaging—for example, one constituent who writes, 'My father has had a letter from the NHS informing him that his surgery will notify him when he is due to have the vaccine. The surgery has a note on its website saying that they will be notified by the NHS when they are due to receive the vaccine.' The NHS advice on avoiding scams quotes:
'The COVID-19 vaccine is free of charge'
we
'will never ask for…personal documents to prove your identity such as your passport, driving licence, bills or pay slips.'
But the letter inviting you to the mass-vaccination centre says, 'When you attend, please bring with you some ID, such as your passport, driving licence or utility bill in your name.'
Vaccinations for school staff administering intimate care to pupils who need it—do I really need to go through the three versions of that announcement? Or that question about students on health work placements being entitled to vaccinations—now, clearly, universities didn't know what was going on at the time, and they still don't. Just today, this from a letter from a Welsh university to a student: 'I'm aware that some of you have had COVID-19 vaccinations whilst on placement, but we currently have no data on vaccine uptake availability to students and would like more information on this'. On top of that, we've got the corkers that the vaccine is being eked out so that vaccinators aren't standing around doing nothing, and 42,000 over-80s waiting for their jabs because of snow. I don't think so—I think Angela Burns has got you there.
So, there's no getting away from the fact that Wales has been behind the other UK nations on this—boy, you really have been pushing out on catch-up these last couple of days, but you're still behind, as Mark Reckless pointed out. We do all say a massive 'thank you' to those who've been diverted to this work and who are volunteering in support roles, but you could have saved yourself and our constituents a lot of heartache by temporarily appointing a Minister with focused responsibility for the vaccination programme. You've heard today from Janet Finch-Saunders how inconsistent the roll-out has been. Despite your—[Inaudible.]—it's not seven days a week everywhere. But if, as Jenny Rathbone says, that's not how Government works, then she's making it clear that it's you, Minister, that has to carry the can for the failures here.
Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd, ac a gaf fi ddiolch i'r holl Aelodau am eu cyfraniadau? Nid oes neb yn awgrymu bod hyn yn hawdd, a dyna pam na ddylai llongyfarch Llywodraeth y DU ar sicrhau cyflenwadau mor gyflym fod wedi bod yn anodd iawn. Ond mae arnaf ofn, Weinidog, eich bod chi a'r Prif Weinidog wedi gwneud hyn yn brofiad llawer mwy dyrys nag oedd angen, oherwydd y cyfathrebu gwael ynghylch eich cynlluniau, fel y nododd Laura Jones. Credaf mai'r peth lleiaf y gallwch ei wneud yw cael hynny'n iawn, oherwydd mae angen i'n hetholwyr ymddiried ynoch. Mae ein hen fyrddau iechyd yn ymdopi â hyn; maent yn gorfod dargyfeirio amser gwerthfawr i ateb cwestiynau etholwyr ar hyn i gyd oherwydd eich negeseuon canolog—er enghraifft, un etholwr sy'n ysgrifennu, 'Mae fy nhad wedi cael llythyr gan y GIG yn ei hysbysu y bydd ei feddygfa'n rhoi gwybod iddo pa bryd y mae i fod i gael y brechlyn. Mae gan y feddygfa nodyn ar ei gwefan yn dweud y byddant yn cael eu hysbysu gan y GIG pan fyddant i fod i gael y brechlyn.' Mae cyngor y GIG ar osgoi sgamiau yn dweud:
Mae'r brechlyn COVID-19 yn rhad ac am ddim
Ni fyddwn
byth yn gofyn am ddogfennau personol i brofi pwy ydych chi, er enghraifft eich pasbort, trwydded yrru, biliau neu slipiau cyflog.
Ond mae'r llythyr sy'n eich gwahodd i'r ganolfan frechu torfol yn dweud, 'Pan fyddwch chi'n mynychu, dewch â rhyw fath o brawf gyda chi, er enghraifft eich pasbort, trwydded yrru neu fil cyfleustodau yn eich enw i brofi mai chi ydych chi.'
Brechiadau i staff ysgol sy'n rhoi gofal personol i ddisgyblion sydd ei angen—a oes gwir angen imi fynd drwy'r tair fersiwn o'r cyhoeddiad hwnnw? Neu'r cwestiwn ynglŷn â hawl myfyrwyr ar leoliadau gwaith ym maes iechyd i gael brechiadau—nawr, yn amlwg, nid oedd prifysgolion yn gwybod beth oedd yn digwydd ar y pryd, ac nid ydynt yn gwybod hynny o hyd. Heddiw, clywn hyn mewn llythyr gan brifysgol yng Nghymru at fyfyriwr: 'Rwy'n ymwybodol fod rhai ohonoch wedi cael brechiadau COVID-19 tra ar leoliad, ond ar hyn o bryd nid oes gennym ddata ar y nifer sy'n manteisio ar frechlynnau i fyfyrwyr a hoffem gael rhagor o wybodaeth am hyn'. Ar ben hynny, mae gennym y sefyllfa hurt fod y broses o ddarparu'r brechlyn yn cael ei harafu fel nad yw'r rhai sy'n rhoi brechlynnau'n sefyll o gwmpas yn cicio'u sodlau, a 42,000 o bobl dros 80 oed yn aros am eu pigiadau oherwydd eira. Nid wyf yn credu hynny—rwy'n credu bod Angela Burns wedi'ch dal chi ar hynny.
Felly, nid oes dianc rhag y ffaith bod Cymru wedi llusgo ar ôl gwledydd eraill y DU ar hyn—mawredd, rydych chi wedi bod yn gwthio i ddal i fyny y dyddiau diwethaf hyn, ond rydych chi'n dal ar ei hôl hi, fel y nododd Mark Reckless. Rydym i gyd yn dweud 'diolch' enfawr i'r rhai sydd wedi cael eu dargyfeirio i wneud y gwaith hwn ac sy'n gwirfoddoli mewn rolau cymorth, ond gallech fod wedi arbed llawer o ofid i chi'ch hun a'n hetholwyr drwy benodi Gweinidog dros dro i fod â chyfrifoldeb penodol dros y rhaglen frechu. Rydych wedi clywed heddiw gan Janet Finch-Saunders pa mor anghyson yw'r gwaith o'i chyflwyno wedi bod. Er gwaethaf eich—[Anghlywadwy.]—nid yw'n saith diwrnod yr wythnos ym mhobman. Ond fel y dywed Jenny Rathbone, os nad dyna sut y mae Llywodraeth yn gweithio, mae'n ei gwneud yn glir mai chi, Weinidog, sy'n gyfrifol am y methiannau yma.
Thank you. The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? I see an objection, and therefore we'll vote on this at voting time.
Diolch. Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Rwy'n gweld gwrthwynebiad, ac felly fe bleidleisiwn ar hyn yn ystod y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Gohiriwyd y pleidleisio tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Voting deferred until voting time.
Detholwyd y gwelliannau canlynol: gwelliant 1 yn enw Darren Millar, a gwelliant 2 yn enw Rebecca Evans. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, caiff gwelliant 2 ei ddad-ddethol.
The following amendments have been selected: amendment 1 in the name of Darren Millar, and amendment 2 in the name of Rebecca Evans. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected.
Item 8 on our agenda is the Plaid Cymru debate on flooding in Rhondda Cynon Taf, and I call on Leanne Wood to move the motion. Leanne.
Eitem 8 ar ein hagenda yw dadl Plaid Cymru ar lifogydd yn Rhondda Cynon Taf, a galwaf ar Leanne Wood i gyflwyno'r cynnig. Leanne.
Cynnig NDM7561 Siân Gwenllian
Cynnig bod y Senedd:
Yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i sefydlu ymchwiliad annibynnol i lifogydd yn Rhondda Cynon Taf.
Motion NDM7561 Siân Gwenllian
To propose that the Senedd:
Calls on the Welsh Government to establish an independent inquiry into flooding in Rhondda Cynon Taf.
Cynigiwyd y cynnig.
Motion moved.
Diolch. I'm returning to this question of an independent inquiry into flooding for a second time in just over a month, and I make no apologies for that. After the devastating floods in February 2020 and the flash floods that followed on later in the year, there are still homes in Rhondda Cynon Taf where people are waiting for them to be restored. Aside from some of the more concerning land movements, the Rhondda was largely, thankfully, unaffected by the heavy rain last week, but I know that many other people in other parts of RCT were not as lucky, and my heart goes out to each and every single person who has been affected by flooding across Wales and beyond. All of this demonstrates that our country is vulnerable to flooding. It also demonstrates that the current system is not protecting our citizens or our communities. We are in a climate crisis. There is now a greater likelihood of extreme weather patterns becoming more regular. We don't know how this worse weather will combine with our coal tips and our underground mine workings, and we need to know, and we need to know that urgently.
When we last debated this, I didn't get answers to my questions, and so this time I'll keep it simple. I have one question for the Government. If Labour MPs from Rhondda Cynon Taf are calling for an inquiry into flooding in England, how can you oppose one here in Wales when you have the power to instigate one? Help me and the thousands of people who signed a petition calling for this independent flood inquiry to understand your reasoning in this. We know from Labour's leaked internal document that you understand that your approach to dealing with flood risk has not been good enough. The manifesto consultation document recognises the, and I quote, 'need for investment and policy change to build greater resilience to intense weather events of the kind we have seen in 2020.' This chimes with the advice from insurers, who urge the Welsh Government to spend more on building and maintaining flood defences, increase the use of flood resilience measures within properties, and change the planning system to prevent developments in flood-risk areas.
Tree planting has to be a key component in flood prevention. People in the Rhondda understand only too well that tree felling has had an impact. They believe that the felling of trees and the failure to remove the brash and the debris is why their homes were flooded. Replanting these trees would help tackle climate change, protect biodiversity and protect people from flooding, and there's no argument about how important tree planting is. Yet this Government's dismal record on meeting its own targets for tree planting is asking for trouble. Your target to plant 5,000 hectares of new woodland every year until 2030 was dropped to 2,000 hectares. Even this less ambitious target could not be met. In recent years, you've averaged around 300 hectares a year, and, in the 12 months up to March of last year, the effort was even worse, at 80 hectares planted. This is abysmal.
We cannot ignore the impact of our industrial past on flooding. Last week's events in Skewen showed how we are still paying the price for heavy industry long after the profits and the jobs have gone. The same can be said about the fear felt in our communities every time one of our coal tips moves. Right across Wales, we have former mines, ironworks and other remnants of heavy industry that have to be taken into account when addressing the impact of flooding and futureproofing our communities. But who is looking at all of this in a joined-up way, and who is listening to the people who are affected by all of this?
These are all things that can be analysed and further looked at in an independent public inquiry. We have to have an independent inquiry to look at what went wrong, to understand who is accountable and, most importantly, to see what needs to be done to put things right in RCT and elsewhere. Please reject both of the 'delete all' amendments. Join Plaid Cymru and the many thousands of people in Rhondda Cynon Taf who have called for an independent inquiry into last year's flooding. They really deserve it.
Diolch. Rwy'n dychwelyd at y cwestiwn hwn o ymchwiliad annibynnol i lifogydd am yr eildro mewn ychydig dros fis, ac nid wyf yn ymddiheuro am hynny. Ar ôl y llifogydd dinistriol ym mis Chwefror 2020 a'r llifogydd sydyn a ddilynodd yn ddiweddarach yn y flwyddyn, mae yna gartrefi o hyd yn Rhondda Cynon Taf lle mae pobl yn aros iddynt gael eu hadfer. Ar wahân i rai o'r symudiadau tir sy'n peri mwy o bryder, ni wnaeth y glaw trwm yr wythnos diwethaf effeithio ar y Rhondda i raddau helaeth, diolch byth, ond gwn na fu llawer o bobl eraill mewn rhannau eraill o RhCT mor ffodus, ac mae fy nghalon yn gwaedu dros bob person y mae llifogydd ledled Cymru a thu hwnt wedi effeithio arnynt. Mae hyn i gyd yn dangos bod ein gwlad yn agored i niwed llifogydd. Mae hefyd yn dangos nad yw'r system bresennol yn amddiffyn ein dinasyddion na'n cymunedau. Rydym mewn argyfwng hinsawdd. Bellach, mae mwy o debygolrwydd y bydd patrymau tywydd eithafol yn dod yn fwy rheolaidd. Nid ydym yn gwybod sut y bydd y tywydd gwaeth hwn yn cyfuno â'n pyllau glo a'n mwynfeydd tanddaearol, ac mae angen inni wybod, a hynny ar frys.
Pan wnaethom drafod hyn ddiwethaf, ni chefais atebion i fy nghwestiynau, ac felly y tro hwn fe'i cadwaf yn syml. Mae gennyf un cwestiwn i'r Llywodraeth. Os yw Aelodau Seneddol Llafur o Rondda Cynon Taf yn galw am ymchwiliad i lifogydd yn Lloegr, sut y gallwch wrthwynebu un yma yng Nghymru pan fo gennych bŵer i gychwyn un? Helpwch fi a'r miloedd o bobl a lofnododd ddeiseb yn galw am ymchwiliad llifogydd annibynnol i ddeall eich rhesymeg ar hyn. Gwyddom o ddogfen fewnol gan Lafur a ddatgelwyd yn answyddogol eich bod yn deall nad yw eich dull o ymdrin â pherygl llifogydd wedi bod yn ddigon da. Mae dogfen ymgynghori'r maniffesto yn cydnabod, ac rwy'n dyfynnu, 'yr angen am fuddsoddiad a newid polisi, er mwyn meithrin mwy o allu i wrthsefyll digwyddiadau tywydd garw o'r math a welsom yn 2020.' Mae hyn yn cyd-fynd â'r cyngor gan yswirwyr, sy'n annog Llywodraeth Cymru i wario mwy ar adeiladu a chynnal amddiffynfeydd rhag llifogydd, cynyddu'r defnydd o fesurau gwrthsefyll llifogydd mewn eiddo, a newid y system gynllunio i atal datblygu mewn ardaloedd lle ceir perygl llifogydd.
Rhaid i blannu coed fod yn elfen allweddol o atal llifogydd. Mae pobl yn y Rhondda yn deall yn rhy dda fod cwympo coed wedi cael effaith. Credant mai cwympo coed a'r methiant i gael gwared ar rwbel a malurion yw'r rheswm pam y gwelsant lifogydd yn eu cartrefi. Byddai ailblannu'r coed hyn yn helpu i fynd i'r afael â newid hinsawdd, yn diogelu bioamrywiaeth ac yn diogelu pobl rhag llifogydd, ac nid oes dadl ynglŷn â phwysigrwydd plannu coed. Ac eto, mae methiant truenus y Llywodraeth hon i gyrraedd ei thargedau ei hun ar gyfer plannu coed yn gofyn am drwbl. Gostyngwyd eich targed i blannu 5,000 hectar o goetir newydd bob blwyddyn tan 2030 i 2,000 hectar. Nid oedd modd cyrraedd y targed llai uchelgeisiol hwn hyd yn oed. Yn ystod y blynyddoedd diwethaf, rydych wedi cyrraedd tua 300 hectar y flwyddyn ar gyfartaledd, ac yn y 12 mis hyd at fis Mawrth y llynedd, roedd yr ymdrech hyd yn oed yn waeth, sef 80 hectar wedi'i phlannu. Mae hyn yn echrydus.
Ni allwn anwybyddu effaith ein gorffennol diwydiannol ar lifogydd. Dangosodd digwyddiadau'r wythnos diwethaf yn Sgiwen sut rydym yn dal i dalu'r pris am ddiwydiant trwm ymhell ar ôl i'r elw a'r swyddi ddiflannu. Gellir dweud yr un peth am yr ofn a deimlir yn ein cymunedau bob tro y bydd un o'n pyllau glo yn symud. Ym mhob rhan o Gymru, mae gennym hen fwyngloddiau, gwaith haearn a gweddillion diwydiannau trwm eraill y mae'n rhaid eu hystyried wrth roi sylw i effaith llifogydd a diogelu ein cymunedau ar gyfer y dyfodol. Ond pwy sy'n edrych ar hyn i gyd mewn ffordd gydgysylltiedig, a phwy sy'n gwrando ar y bobl yr effeithir arnynt gan hyn i gyd?
Mae'r rhain oll yn bethau y gellir eu dadansoddi a'u hystyried ymhellach mewn ymchwiliad cyhoeddus annibynnol. Rhaid inni gael ymchwiliad annibynnol i edrych ar yr hyn a aeth o'i le, i ddeall pwy sy'n atebol ac yn bwysicaf oll, i weld beth sydd angen ei wneud i unioni pethau yn RhCT ac mewn mannau eraill. Gwrthodwch y ddau welliant 'dileu popeth'. Ymunwch â Phlaid Cymru a'r miloedd lawer o bobl yn Rhondda Cynon Taf sydd wedi galw am ymchwiliad annibynnol i lifogydd y llynedd. Maent yn bendant yn ei haeddu.
Thank you. I have selected two amendments to the motion. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. I call on Janet Finch-Saunders to move amendment 1, tabled in the name of Darren Millar.
Diolch. Rwyf wedi dethol dau welliant i'r cynnig. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, caiff gwelliant 2 ei ddad-ddethol. Galwaf ar Janet Finch-Saunders i gynnig gwelliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Darren Millar.
Gwelliant 1—Darren Millar
Dileu popeth a rhoi yn ei le:
Cynnig bod y Senedd:
Yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i ddiogelu cymunedau yn Rhondda Cynon Taf a ledled Cymru rhag llifogydd, drwy:
a) sefydlu asiantaeth llifogydd i Gymru i gydlynu'r gwiath o reoli perygl llifogydd a'r ymateb i lifogydd;
b) dynodi lleiniau glas i gyfyngu ar ddatblygiadau diangen mewn ardaloedd lle mae perygl llifogydd sylweddol;
c) cynyddu buddsoddiad mewn amddiffynfeydd rhag llifogydd a rheoli perygl llifogydd;
d) hwyluso ymchwiliadau annibynnol i lifogydd sylweddol er mwyn sicrhau bod gwersi'n cael eu dysgu;
e) sicrhau bod cyllid ar gael ar unwaith i gynghorau, gwasanaethau brys a Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru i fynd drwy'r cam glanhau cychwynnol yn effeithiol; a
f) gweithio gyda'r diwydiant yswiriant i sicrhau y gall cartrefi a busnesau gael yswiriant fforddiadwy sy'n gysylltiedig â llifogydd.
Amendment 1—Darren Millar
Delete all and replace with:
To propose that the Senedd:
Calls on the Welsh Government to protect communities in Rhondda Cynon Taf and across Wales from flooding, by:
a) establishing a Welsh flood agency to co-ordinate flood risk management and the response to flooding events;
b) designating blue belts to restrict unnecessary development in areas of significant flood risk;
c) increasing investment in flood defences and flood risk management;
d) facilitating independent inquiries into significant flooding events to ensure learning;
e) ensuring that funding is immediately available to councils, emergency services and Natural Resources Wales to get through the initial clean-up stage effectively; and
f) working with the insurance industry to ensure that homes and businesses can access affordable flood-related insurance.
Cynigiwyd gwelliant 1.
Amendment 1 moved.
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer, and, yes, I would like to move those amendments. I would also like to pay tribute to all emergency services, our local authorities and Natural Resources Wales, who were out just last week assisting our residents as a result of storm Christoph. Our hearts must go out to all those affected. However, we should all offer more not only to the people of Rhondda Cynon Taf, but all of Wales, because so many constituencies now on a regular basis are seeing their areas devastated. And I would like to thank members of the community, because, when these situations arise, they go out all hours, early hours and everything, helping.
Now, step one, we need to ensure that funding is immediately available to get residents through the initial clean-up stage. Lessons have to be learnt from the past. The £500 and £1,000 grants are welcome, but a guarantee is needed that this will be with affected residents immediately, and, you know, 'immediately' to the Welsh Government can sometimes be four to six weeks, and it is simply too long. The Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee's short inquiry into your response to the February flooding unearthed serious problems. You advised committee that you would take away old funding barriers to enable local authorities to deliver schemes. Caerphilly, Monmouthshire and Rhondda Cynon Taf provided clear evidence to the contrary. Even the WLGA warned that authorities are a long way away from being fully prepared and resilient. So, how will you take away funding barriers this time, and empower local authorities to implement schemes quickly?
Now, there is an urgent need to look at NRW. The organisation was going into battle already wounded. Up to 70 additional staff are needed to sustain the overall service at the levels described by the actions and the improvements in the 'February 2020 Floods in Wales: Flood Incident Management Review' report. NRW has employed only half of what is needed. In fact, of the 2,000 staff at NRW, only around 300 have some responsibility for flooding. We need a team that is 100 per cent focused on flooding. Wales should have a Welsh flood agency to co-ordinate flood risk management and the response to flooding events. This would help mitigate unjustifiable errors by NRW. There is a need to designate blue belts to restrict unnecessary developments in areas of significant flood risk. I've listened to residents from Bangor-on-Dee explaining how the number of homes has doubled from 200 to 550 affected.
And finally, that community of Rhondda Cynon Taf, the Conwy valley, and all across Wales subjected to significant flooding, each deserve independent inquiries. I have been making these calls since 2019. The Welsh Conservative plan for decisive action is one you should all support. Thank you.
Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd, ac ydw, rwyf am gynnig y gwelliannau hynny. Hoffwn hefyd dalu teyrnged i'r holl wasanaethau brys, ein hawdurdodau lleol a Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru, a oedd allan yr wythnos diwethaf yn cynorthwyo ein trigolion o ganlyniad i storm Christoph. Rydym yn cydymdeimlo â phawb yr effeithiwyd arnynt. Fodd bynnag, dylem i gyd gynnig mwy nid yn unig i bobl Rhondda Cynon Taf, ond i bobl ledled Cymru, oherwydd mae cynifer o etholaethau yn rheolaidd bellach yn gweld eu hardaloedd yn cael eu distrywio. A hoffwn ddiolch i aelodau o'r gymuned, oherwydd, pan fydd y sefyllfaoedd hyn yn digwydd, maent yn mynd allan i helpu ar bob adeg o'r dydd, oriau cynnar a phopeth.
Nawr, cam un, mae angen inni sicrhau bod cyllid ar gael ar unwaith i gael preswylwyr drwy'r cam glanhau cychwynnol. Rhaid dysgu gwersi o'r gorffennol. Croesewir y grantiau o £500 a £1,000, ond mae angen sicrwydd y bydd preswylwyr yr effeithir arnynt yn ei gael ar unwaith, gan fod 'ar unwaith' yn gallu golygu rhwng pedair a chwe wythnos i Lywodraeth Cymru weithiau, ac mae hynny'n rhy hir. Roedd ymchwiliad byr y Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, Amgylchedd a Materion Gwledig i'ch ymateb i lifogydd mis Chwefror yn datgelu problemau difrifol. Fe ddywedoch chi wrth y pwyllgor y byddech yn dileu hen rwystrau ariannu i alluogi awdurdodau lleol i gyflawni cynlluniau. Rhoddodd Caerffili, Sir Fynwy a Rhondda Cynon Taf dystiolaeth glir i'r gwrthwyneb. Rhybuddiodd CLlLC hyd yn oed fod awdurdodau ymhell o fod yn gwbl barod a gwydn. Felly, sut rydych chi am ddileu rhwystrau ariannu y tro hwn, a grymuso awdurdodau lleol i weithredu cynlluniau'n gyflym?
Nawr, mae angen edrych ar CNC ar frys. Roedd y sefydliad eisoes yn mynd i'r frwydr wedi'i glwyfo. Mae angen hyd at 70 o staff ychwanegol i gynnal y gwasanaeth cyffredinol ar y lefelau a ddisgrifir gan y camau gweithredu a'r gwelliannau yn yr adroddiad, 'Llifogydd yng Nghymru ym mis Chwefror 2020: Adolygiad Rheoli Digwyddiadau Llifogydd'. Dim ond hanner y nifer sydd ei hangen y mae CNC wedi'i gyflogi. Yn wir, o'r 2,000 o staff yn CNC, dim ond tua 300 sydd â rhyw fath o gyfrifoldeb dros lifogydd. Mae arnom angen tîm sy'n canolbwyntio 100 y cant ar lifogydd. Dylai fod gan Gymru asiantaeth lifogydd i gydlynu'r gwaith o reoli perygl llifogydd a'r ymateb i ddigwyddiadau llifogydd. Byddai hyn yn helpu i liniaru camgymeriadau na ellir eu cyfiawnhau gan CNC. Mae angen dynodi lleiniau glas i gyfyngu ar ddatblygiadau diangen mewn ardaloedd lle mae perygl sylweddol o lifogydd. Rwyf wedi gwrando ar drigolion o Fangor Is-coed yn esbonio sut y mae nifer y cartrefi yr effeithir arnynt wedi dyblu o 200 i 550.
Ac yn olaf, mae'r gymuned yn Rhondda Cynon Taf, dyffryn Conwy, a ledled Cymru sydd wedi dioddef llifogydd sylweddol yn haeddu ymchwiliadau annibynnol, bob un. Rwyf wedi bod yn gwneud y galwadau hyn ers 2019. Mae cynllun y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ar gyfer gweithredu pendant yn un y dylech i gyd ei gefnogi. Diolch.
Thank you. Can I call on the Minister for Environment, Energy and Rural Affairs to formally move amendment 2, tabled in the name of Rebecca Evans?
Diolch. A gaf fi alw ar Weinidog yr Amgylchedd, Ynni a Materion Gwledig i gynnig gwelliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Rebecca Evans, yn ffurfiol?
Gwelliant 2—Rebecca Evans
Dileu popeth a rhoi yn ei le:
Cynnig bod y Senedd:
1. Yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i:
a) cymeradwyo gwaith yr ymatebwyr brys, yr awdurdodau rheoli perygl llifogydd a phawb a gyfrannodd at yr ymateb i achosion difrifol o lifogydd yn 2020 a 2021 yn Rhondda Cynon Taf ac ar draws Cymru;
b) sicrhau bod yr holl ymchwiliadau annibynnol ynghylch llifogydd yn destun craffu gan y cyhoedd ac arbenigwyr annibynnol fel bod y ffeithiau llawn ar gael a bod modd gweithredu yn eu cylch;
c) parhau i gefnogi ein Hawdurdodau Rheoli Perygl Llifogydd yn Rhondda Cynon Taf ac ar draws Cymru er mwyn sicrhau bod yr amddiffynfeydd yn parhau’n weithredol ac er mwyn helpu’r perchenogion cartrefi y mae’r llifogydd wedi effeithio arnynt a hynny wrth iddynt ymdopi â phandemig y coronafeirws; a
d) cefnogi’r mesurau yn ein Strategaeth Genedlaethol newydd ar gyfer rheoli perygl llifogydd ac erydu arfordirol er mwyn sicrhau ein bod yn gwneud ein cymunedau’n fwy cydnerth fel eu bod yn gallu ymdopi â’r peryglon cynyddol ddifrifol sy’n deillio o’r newid yn yr hinsawdd.
Amendment 2—Rebecca Evans
Delete all and replace with:
To propose the Senedd:
1. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a) commend the work of the emergency responders, flood risk management authorities and all those who helped in the response to intense flooding events in 2020 and 2021 in Rhondda Cynon Taf and across Wales;
b) ensure all independent flood investigations are subject to scrutiny by the public and independent experts so the full facts are available and can be acted upon;
c) continue to support our Risk Management Authorities in Rhondda Cynon Taf and across Wales to ensure defences remain operational and help those homeowners who have been affected by the impacts of flooding whilst coping with the coronavirus pandemic; and
d) support the measures in our new National Strategy for flood and coastal risk to ensure we increase the resilience of our communities to the increasingly severe risks from the changing climate.
Cynigiwyd gwelliant 2.
Amendment 2 moved.
Formally.
Yn ffurfiol.
Flooding can be devastating enough when it happens once to a community—the clean-up, the high costs, the insurance companies who often find loopholes and too often refuse to pay—but another aspect I'd like to draw attention to is the psychological effects that flooding wreaks on those affected by it. In February last year, the residents of Edward Street in Ystrad Mynach were woken in the middle of the night by a neighbour who'd noticed the waters rising. Many of their cars were already ruined. Half an hour later, the water had got into their homes. I visited the residents that week, and I've been back a few times since, and I can tell you that it isn't just anger or frustration that some of the residents feel; it's fear. Every time it rains heavily, every time they're woken in the night by rain on the roof, the worry sets in: 'What if it happens again?'
Last February, I wrote to the Deputy Minister for social services to ask whether counselling support for children affected by the flooding could be made available. Of course, shortly thereafter, the pandemic took hold and usual school routines were disrupted, but in the midst of COVID, I'd like us all to remember that residents affected by those February floods had to stay at home in those houses where they didn't feel safe. That takes a toll on adults and children alike. So, when we talk about the need for improved mental health provisions in response to COVID—a move I support wholeheartedly—let's also please remember that there are many effects of the flooding that still lurk in the background too.
I welcome the fact that we're having this debate. I'd add to our motion. I'd call for a fundamental reassessment from the Government of how it doesn't just respond to flooding, but seeks to prevent it, to learn lessons. Those residents in Ystrad Mynach raised concerns with the council on numerous occasions, but they went unheeded. Flood defences that could have protected their homes weren't in place in time. Sand bags were given out instead of making sure that drains were unblocked. Dirprwy Lywydd, their story is indicative of stories in streets across Wales, streets that have been flooded before and that are, frankly, full of residents terrified that it could happen again every time it rains. So, I'd support the calls for an inquiry and I'd further urge the Government to remember the need for counselling. That hasn't gone away.
Gall llifogydd fod yn ddigon dinistriol pan fo'n digwydd unwaith i gymuned—y glanhau, y costau uchel, y cwmnïau yswiriant sy'n aml yn dod o hyd i fylchau yn y polisi ac yn rhy aml yn gwrthod talu—ond agwedd arall yr hoffwn dynnu sylw ati yw'r effeithiau seicolegol y mae llifogydd yn eu cael ar y rhai y mae'n effeithio arnynt. Ym mis Chwefror y llynedd, cafodd trigolion Stryd Edward yn Ystrad Mynach eu deffro ynghanol y nos gan gymydog a oedd wedi sylwi ar y dŵr yn codi. Roedd llawer o'u ceir eisoes wedi'u dinistrio. Hanner awr yn ddiweddarach, roedd y dŵr wedi mynd i mewn i'w cartrefi. Ymwelais â'r trigolion yr wythnos honno, ac rwyf wedi bod yn ôl ychydig o weithiau ers hynny, a gallaf ddweud wrthych nad dicter neu rwystredigaeth yn unig y mae rhai o'r trigolion yn ei deimlo, ond ofn. Bob tro y mae'n bwrw glaw yn drwm, bob tro y cânt eu deffro yn y nos gan law ar y to, maent yn dechrau poeni: 'Beth os yw'n digwydd eto?'
Fis Chwefror diwethaf, ysgrifennais at y Dirprwy Weinidog gwasanaethau cymdeithasol i ofyn a ellid darparu cymorth cwnsela i blant yr effeithiwyd arnynt gan y llifogydd. Wrth gwrs, yn fuan wedi hynny, daeth y pandemig ac amharwyd ar drefn arferol yr ysgolion, ond ynghanol COVID, hoffwn i bawb ohonom gofio bod yn rhaid i breswylwyr yr effeithiwyd arnynt gan y llifogydd ym mis Chwefror aros gartref yn y tai hynny lle nad oeddent yn teimlo'n ddiogel. Mae hynny'n effeithio ar oedolion a phlant fel ei gilydd. Felly, pan soniwn am yr angen am well darpariaethau iechyd meddwl mewn ymateb i COVID—cam rwy'n ei gefnogi'n llwyr—gadewch inni gofio hefyd fod llawer o effeithiau'r llifogydd yn dal i loetran yn y cefndir.
Rwy'n croesawu'r ffaith ein bod yn cael y ddadl hon. Byddwn yn ychwanegu at ein cynnig. Byddwn yn galw am ailasesiad sylfaenol gan y Llywodraeth o'r ffordd y dylai wneud mwy na dim ond ymateb i lifogydd, a cheisio eu hatal, a dysgu gwersi. Mynegodd y trigolion yn Ystrad Mynach bryderon wrth y cyngor ar sawl achlysur, ond ni chawsant eu clywed. Nid oedd amddiffynfeydd rhag llifogydd a allai fod wedi diogelu eu cartrefi yn eu lle mewn pryd. Dosbarthwyd bagiau tywod yn hytrach na gwneud yn siŵr fod draeniau heb eu blocio. Ddirprwy Lywydd, mae eu stori'n debyg i straeon ar strydoedd ledled Cymru, strydoedd sydd wedi dioddef llifogydd o'r blaen ac sydd, a bod yn onest, yn llawn o drigolion sy'n arswydo y gallai ddigwydd eto bob tro y mae'n bwrw glaw. Felly, rwy'n cefnogi'r galwadau am ymchwiliad a hoffwn annog y Llywodraeth ymhellach i gofio'r angen am gwnsela. Nid yw hynny wedi diflannu.
I'm pleased to participate in this debate, as we approach the first anniversary of the flooding that my constituency was very badly affected by. I visited at the time the affected areas with local councillors and the First Minister, and we met with families whose homes were devastated by the flooding, and I've continued to meet with them on a regular basis.
Now, there has been a considerable amount of work that has been done since then, but there is still much to be done. The estimated cost of infrastructure damage for Rhondda Cynon Taf alone is estimated at in excess of £70 million. The promise of financial support from the UK Government has still not been fully honoured; we've had to drag them kicking and screaming to get the first instalment of £31 million from them, and we still face uncertainty over the remainder. And I have to say, we've had absolutely no help from the Welsh Conservatives when it comes to getting full payment of what was promised.
There has been considerable work done by the council, Natural Resources Wales and Welsh Water: culverts have been cleared and repaired, collapsed drains repaired, drains cleared, damaged road infrastructure repaired, flood defences assessed and repaired, and pumps replaced. There are major works, I know, planned in my constituency in respect of damaged bridges in Trallwn and Treforest, and this work, I know, is going to continue throughout the year. But that is why the promised funding from the UK Government is so important. Of major importance is the ongoing work assessing flood risk in the broader Taff Ely area to assess the overall adequacy of existing flood defences and the alleviation measures. So, I and my colleagues will continue to monitor the ongoing work and the plans and ensure that the flood-affected areas are certainly never going to be forgotten.
The damage that occurs when an area is flooded, as has been said, is not just physical, it is the mental scarring: the impact on the elderly and the children and the heightened anxiety that occurs whenever there is a flood warning posted. So, tackling mental well-being in the community, I think, is as important as repairing the physical damage, which is why I raised this with the local health board to ensure that all the mental health support that is necessary is available.
So, as well as the NRW report, which has been published, we're now awaiting eight flood investigation reports, prepared in preparation in accordance with section 19 of the Flood and Water Management Act 2010. I've been informed that these are expected imminently. There are another 11 reports for the other parts of Rhondda Cynon Taf, which are being prepared. And I've been involved in preparing my own inquiry report, along with my local MP Alex Davies-Jones, as a product of something like 30 meetings that we've had. On the issue of an inquiry, I'd like to say this: there are already all these inquiries under way, and it is vitally important that they are completed and we are able to evaluate their conclusions. Yet another inquiry set up under the Inquiries Act 2005 will not add anything to what we already know and what we will find out from those section 19 reports. There is a time and a place for public inquiries and, well intentioned as the request is, just now is not the moment. Setting up an inquiry under the terms of the Act would have the effect of delaying or preventing much needed work being carried out. And I know from my own personal experience that it would take at least 12 months, and in all likelihood 18 to 24 months, minimum, to complete its work, as well as the setting up time. So, I much prefer actually getting on with the work. In the light of all the inquiries already under way and nearing completion—
Rwy'n falch o gymryd rhan yn y ddadl hon, wrth iddi ddod yn flwyddyn ers y llifogydd a effeithiodd yn wael iawn ar fy etholaeth. Ar y pryd ymwelais â'r ardaloedd yr effeithiwyd arnynt gyda chynghorwyr lleol a'r Prif Weinidog, a chyfarfûm â theuluoedd y dinistriwyd eu cartrefi gan y llifogydd, ac rwyf wedi parhau i gyfarfod â hwy'n rheolaidd.
Nawr, gwnaed cryn dipyn o waith ers hynny, ond mae llawer i'w wneud o hyd. Amcangyfrifir bod cost difrod i seilwaith Rhondda Cynon Taf yn unig yn fwy na £70 miliwn. Nid yw'r addewid o gymorth ariannol gan Lywodraeth y DU wedi'i wireddu'n llawn eto; mae cael y rhandaliad cyntaf o £31 miliwn ganddynt wedi bod fel ceisio cael gwaed o garreg, ac rydym yn dal i wynebu ansicrwydd ynglŷn â'r gweddill. Ac mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud, nid ydym wedi cael unrhyw gymorth o gwbl gan y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig i geisio cael y taliad a addawyd yn llawn.
Gwnaed gwaith sylweddol gan y cyngor, Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru a Dŵr Cymru: mae cwlfertau wedi'u clirio a'u hatgyweirio, draeniau a ddymchwelwyd wedi'u hatgyweirio, draeniau wedi'u clirio, seilwaith ffyrdd a ddifrodwyd wedi'i drwsio, amddiffynfeydd rhag llifogydd wedi'u hasesu a'u hatgyweirio, a phympiau wedi'u hadnewyddu. Gwn fod gwaith mawr wedi'i gynllunio yn fy etholaeth ar bontydd a ddifrodwyd yn Nhrallwn a Threfforest, ac mae'r gwaith hwn, rwy'n gwybod, yn mynd i barhau drwy gydol y flwyddyn. Ond dyna pam y mae'r cyllid a addawyd gan Lywodraeth y DU mor bwysig. Mae'r gwaith parhaus ar asesu perygl llifogydd yn ardal ehangach Taf Elái i asesu digonolrwydd cyffredinol yr amddiffynfeydd rhag llifogydd presennol a'r mesurau lliniaru yn bwysig iawn. Felly, byddaf fi a fy nghydweithwyr yn parhau i fonitro'r gwaith sy'n mynd rhagddo a'r cynlluniau ac yn sicrhau na fydd yr ardaloedd yr effeithir arnynt gan lifogydd byth yn cael eu hanghofio.
Fel y dywedwyd, nid difrod ffisegol yn unig sy'n digwydd pan fydd ardal yn dioddef llifogydd, ceir creithiau meddyliol hefyd: yr effaith ar yr henoed a'r plant a'r pryder cynyddol sy'n digwydd pryd bynnag y ceir rhybudd llifogydd. Felly, credaf fod mynd i'r afael â lles meddyliol yn y gymuned yr un mor bwysig ag atgyweirio'r difrod ffisegol, a dyna pam y crybwyllais hyn wrth y bwrdd iechyd lleol er mwyn sicrhau bod yr holl gymorth iechyd meddwl sy'n angenrheidiol ar gael.
Felly, yn ogystal ag adroddiad Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru, sydd wedi'i gyhoeddi, rydym bellach yn aros am wyth adroddiad ymchwiliad llifogydd, a baratowyd yn unol ag adran 19 o Ddeddf Rheoli Llifogydd a Dŵr 2010. Rwyf wedi cael gwybod bod y rhain i'w cyhoeddi'n fuan. Mae 11 adroddiad arall yn cael eu paratoi ar gyfer rhannau eraill o Rondda Cynon Taf. Ac rwyf wedi bod yn rhan o'r gwaith o baratoi adroddiad fy ymchwiliad fy hun, gyda fy AS lleol Alex Davies-Jones, sy'n gynnyrch rhywbeth fel 30 o gyfarfodydd a gawsom. Ar fater ymchwiliad, hoffwn ddweud hyn: mae'r holl ymchwiliadau hyn eisoes ar y gweill, ac mae'n hanfodol bwysig eu bod yn cael eu cwblhau a'n bod yn gallu gwerthuso'u casgliadau. Ni fydd ymchwiliad arall eto wedi'i gynnal o dan Ddeddf Ymchwiliadau 2005 yn ychwanegu unrhyw beth at yr hyn a wyddom eisoes a'r hyn a welwn o'r adroddiadau adran 19 hynny. Mae amser a lle i ymchwiliadau cyhoeddus ac er mor dda yw bwriad y cais, nid nawr yw'r adeg i'w wneud. Byddai sefydlu ymchwiliad o dan amodau'r Ddeddf yn golygu gohirio neu atal gwaith y mae mawr ei angen rhag cael ei wneud. A gwn o fy mhrofiad fy hun y byddai'n cymryd o leiaf 12 mis, ac yn ôl pob tebyg 18 i 24 mis fan lleiaf, i gwblhau ei waith, yn ogystal â'r amser sefydlu. Felly, mae'n llawer gwell gennyf fwrw ymlaen â'r gwaith. Yng ngoleuni'r holl ymchwiliadau sydd eisoes ar y gweill ac sydd bron â bod wedi'u cwblhau—
The Member will have to draw his remarks to a conclusion, please.
Bydd yn rhaid i'r Aelod ddod â'i sylwadau i ben, os gwelwch yn dda.
—setting up a statutory inquiry would be an obstacle to real progress. Dirprwy Lywydd, I'm not prepared to see the urgent work that is ongoing being delayed in this way. Thank you, Dirprwy Lywydd.
—byddai sefydlu ymchwiliad statudol yn rhwystr i gynnydd go iawn. Ddirprwy Lywydd, nid wyf yn barod i weld y gwaith brys sy'n mynd rhagddo yn cael ei ohirio yn y ffordd hon. Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd.
Dwi am gefnogi, wrth gwrs, y cynnig yma. Mi fuasai natur y cynnig, dwi'n siŵr, yn wahanol iawn petai e heb gael ei osod cyn yr achosion o lifogydd a welon ni yn y dyddiau diwethaf, ond mae e yn gyfle, dwi'n meddwl, i ehangu ar rai o'r ymatebion sydd angen eu gweld. Mi wnes i, wrth gwrs, alw am gefnogaeth ariannol i'r rhai a gafodd eu heffeithio yn yr wythnos diwethaf, a dwi'n falch iawn bod y Llywodraeth wedi ymrwymo i'r un lefel o gefnogaeth i'r rhai sydd wedi cael eu heffeithio'r tro hyn ag a gafwyd y flwyddyn ddiwethaf. Ond mae yna wersi i'w dysgu o hynny hefyd, fel rŷn ni wedi clywed.
Mae'n bwysig bod yr oedi a welwyd mewn cael y taliadau yna allan y tro diwethaf ddim yn cael ei ailadrodd y tro hwn. Dyw hi ddim yn dderbyniol iddi gymryd hyd at ddau fis i'r bobl yma sydd wedi cael eu heffeithio i dderbyn y gefnogaeth, oherwydd rŵan maen nhw angen y gefnogaeth, rŵan maen nhw'n colli eu cyflogau a rŵan maen nhw angen ymateb i'r difrod a'r llanast sydd yn eu cartrefi a'u busnesau.
Mae hefyd angen help ymarferol ar y cartrefi a'r trigolion yma i wella cydnerthedd eu cartrefi yn syth, oherwydd mae nifer, wrth gwrs, yn ofn gweld achosion tebyg yn digwydd yn yr wythnosau nesaf o ail lifogydd, ac nid dim ond y rhai sydd wedi cael eu heffeithio ond y rhai a fuodd bron iawn â chael eu heffeithio hefyd, wrth gwrs, oherwydd rŷn ni'n sôn fan hyn am bethau fel gatiau llifogydd fyddai'n atal difrod i'r cartrefi fuodd o fewn trwch blewyn o gael difrod y tro diwethaf. Mae angen cynllun yn ei le sydd yn gallu ymateb i ddarparu hynny yn syth.
Mae angen cryfhau ar fyrder yr isadeiledd sydd wedi methu mewn rhai achosion dros y dyddiau diwethaf yma. Dwi'n gwybod yn fan hyn yn Rhuthun, mae'r trigolion lleol yn gofidio'n fawr iawn nad yw'r cyngor na Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru, nac unrhyw un arall, wedi mynd ati i gryfhau'r bwnd wnaeth fod yn fethiannus yr wythnos diwethaf. Felly, mae angen rhoi tawelwch meddwl i bobl drwy ddatrys y problemau hynny, ond hefyd, wrth gwrs, sicrhau na fydd hyn yn digwydd eto yn y tymor byr tra bod y datrysiadau tymor hir yma yn cael eu gweithredu arnyn nhw.
Oes, mae angen parhau i fuddsoddi mewn isadeiledd caled, ond mae angen gwell isadeiledd meddal hefyd. Mae hon yn thema rŷn ni'n dod yn ôl ati yn gyson, wrth gwrs: rheolaeth llifogydd naturiol; mwy o orlifdiroedd; mwy o goed, fel y clywon ni wrth i'r ddadl yma gael ei hagor; cau ffosydd. Mae'r Llywodraeth wedi bod yn siarad am y pethau yma ers blynyddoedd mawr. Dŷn ni ddim wedi gweld yr interventions ar y lefel y byddem ni wedi disgwyl yn digwydd fel y byddem ni wedi gobeithio. Mae angen y capasiti o ran staffio ar Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru ac mae angen gwella mapiau llifogydd, sydd yn aml iawn yn ddim byd mwy na bys yn y gwynt. Felly, mae yna lawer y gellir ei wneud, a byddwn yn achub ar y cyfle yn y ddadl yma i annog y Llywodraeth nawr i weithredu ar bob un o'r materion yna.
I am, of course, going to support the motion. The motion would have been very different, I'm sure, had it not been tabled before the flooding that we've seen in recent days, but it is an opportunity to look at the responses that are required. Of course, I did call for financial support for those affected over the last week, and I'm very pleased that the Government has committed to the same level of support for those affected this time as was provided last year. But there are lessons to be learned from that too, as we've already heard.
It's important that the delays we saw in getting those payments out last time aren't repeated. It's not acceptable that it took up to two months for those people who had been affected to receive the support, because they need that support now. It's now that they're losing their salaries and it's now that they need to respond to the mess and destruction in their homes and businesses.
They also need practical assistance in terms of improving the resilience of their homes immediately, because many, of course, fear similar things happening in the next few weeks, and it's not just those who've been impacted but those who were almost affected too, because we are talking here about things like flood gates, which could prevent damage to homes that came within a hair's breadth of being damaged last time. We need a plan in place that can respond in order to provide that immediately.
We need to strengthen as a matter of urgency the infrastructure that has failed over the past few days. I know in Rhuthin that local residents are very concerned that neither the council nor Natural Resources Wales, nor anyone else, has actually strengthened the bund that failed last week. So, we do need to provide people with peace of mind by resolving those problems, but also ensure that this doesn't happen again in the short term whilst the long-term solutions are also implemented.
Yes, we need to continue to invest in hard infrastructure, but we need better soft infrastructure too. This is a theme we return to regularly: natural flood management; more flood plains; more trees planted, as we heard in the opening remarks; dealing with culverts and so on. The Government has been talking about this for years. We haven't seen the interventions at the level that we would have expected or would've hoped to have seen. We need the capacity for NRW, in terms of staffing, and we need to improve flood maps, which are very often nothing more than a finger in the air. So, there's a great deal that can be done and I would take this opportunity in this debate to encourage the Government to take action on all of those issues.
For those who experience flooding the psychological impact is devastating, and these are effects that we can see clearly in our communities when we meet with and talk to those affected. The power of mother nature to cause devastating floods is nothing new, yet there is no doubt that as climate change takes its grip the threat of increased flooding in our communities in future is a serious one, and one that governments at all levels must come together to tackle head on.
When homes and businesses are flooded, it's important that the relevant authorities do all they can to help and pick up the pieces. When parts of my constituency were very badly affected by storm Dennis back in February last year, I visited many of those affected along with the environment Minister, Lesley Griffiths, and also saw at first hand how Rhondda Cynon Taf staff worked around the clock before, during and after the storm to help local people—an important point recognised in the first part of the Government's amendment. I want to place on record my thanks to all of those who helped.
It is important that we learn what happened, where and why flooding occurred, and what we need to do in future to mitigate its impact. We must recognise also that RCT council has, or is in the process of carrying out, 28 different inquiries into the flooding last year, in addition to NRW's work. There must be the opportunity for these processes to conclude rather than just restarting the process, launching a new inquiry that covers old ground when our public services are under so much pressure and going above and beyond.
But, waiting for inquiries to report back on their findings doesn't, of course, mean that we do nothing. Instead, it means that practical interventions can be, and are being, made now. For example, some of the long-term solutions that recognise the topography of the Valleys and the large number of culverts can be put in place to mitigate the impact of heavy rain, surface run-off and engorged water channels.
I visited one scheme in Trecynon, again with the environment Minister, last August, where an attenuation pond had been established, bypassing a flood-prone culvert and establishing a new habitat in the process. This was funded out of over £0.5 million given to RCT council to work on repairs and remediation of flood-alleviation assets by the Welsh Government; more money for other schemes has also been allocated since. I welcome this long-term approach from the Welsh Government, in close collaboration with forward-thinking local authorities. Other works carried out by RCT council using Welsh Government funding include interventions in Cwmbach to prevent flooding that has long plagued local businesses there. These are all locally owned, employing local people and contributing to the foundational economy.
When I met constituents who'd been affected by flooding and spoke of the difficulties getting insurance, I was able to inform them of the Government-supported Flood Re scheme. More work should be undertaken to raise awareness of this, and I would like to see the scheme extended so that businesses can benefit from support towards their increased insurance costs too.
Finally, I would like to formally record my thanks to the Moondance Foundation and the Coalfields Regeneration Trust for their help in financing and administrating the Cynon valley flood fund that I established with Beth Winter to support local people whose lives have been turned upside down by flooding.
I'r rheini sy'n dioddef llifogydd mae'r effaith seicolegol yn ddinistriol, ac mae'r rhain yn effeithiau y gallwn eu gweld yn glir yn ein cymunedau pan fyddwn yn cyfarfod â'r rhai yr effeithiwyd arnynt ac yn siarad â hwy. Nid yw grym natur i achosi llifogydd dinistriol yn ddim byd newydd, ac eto nid oes amheuaeth, wrth i'r newid yn yr hinsawdd waethygu mae'r bygythiad o fwy o lifogydd yn ein cymunedau yn y dyfodol yn un difrifol, ac yn un y mae'n rhaid i lywodraethau ar bob lefel ddod at ei gilydd i fynd i'r afael ag ef yn uniongyrchol.
Pan fydd cartrefi a busnesau'n dioddef llifogydd, mae'n bwysig fod yr awdurdodau perthnasol yn gwneud popeth yn eu gallu i helpu a rhoi pethau yn ôl at ei gilydd. Pan effeithiodd storm Dennis yn wael iawn ar rannau o fy etholaeth yn ôl ym mis Chwefror y llynedd, ymwelais â llawer o'r rheini yr effeithiwyd arnynt gyda Gweinidog yr amgylchedd, Lesley Griffiths, a gwelais â'm llygaid fy hun sut roedd staff Rhondda Cynon Taf wedi gweithio bob awr o'r dydd cyn, yn ystod ac ar ôl y storm i helpu pobl leol—pwynt pwysig a gydnabuwyd yn y rhan gyntaf o welliant y Llywodraeth. Hoffwn gofnodi fy niolch i bawb a helpodd.
Mae'n bwysig inni ddysgu beth a ddigwyddodd, ble a pham y digwyddodd llifogydd, a'r hyn y mae angen inni ei wneud yn y dyfodol i liniaru eu heffaith. Rhaid inni gydnabod hefyd fod gan gyngor RhCT 28 o ymchwiliadau gwahanol ar y gwell i'r llifogydd y llynedd, yn ogystal â gwaith Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru. Rhaid rhoi cyfle i'r prosesau hyn ddod i ben yn hytrach na dim ond ailgychwyn y broses, lansio ymchwiliad newydd sy'n mynd dros hen dir pan fo'n gwasanaethau cyhoeddus o dan gymaint o bwysau ac yn mynd y tu hwnt i'r galw.
Ond wrth gwrs, nid yw aros i ymchwiliadau adrodd yn ôl ar eu canfyddiadau yn golygu nad ydym yn gwneud dim. Yn hytrach, mae'n golygu y gellir gwneud ymyriadau ymarferol, ac maent yn cael eu gwneud yn awr. Er enghraifft, gellir gweithredu rhai o'r atebion hirdymor sy'n cydnabod topograffeg y Cymoedd a'r nifer fawr o geuffosydd er mwyn lliniaru effaith glaw trwm, dŵr ffo ar yr wyneb a sianeli dŵr gorlawn.
Ymwelais ag un cynllun yn Nhrecynon, unwaith eto gyda Gweinidog yr amgylchedd, fis Awst diwethaf, lle roedd pwll arafu wedi'i greu, gan ddargyfeirio'r llif o gwlfert sy'n dueddol o orlifo a sefydlu cynefin newydd yn y broses. Ariannwyd hyn o dros £0.5 miliwn a roddwyd i gyngor RhCT i weithio ar atgyweiriadau ac adfer asedau lliniaru llifogydd gan Lywodraeth Cymru; mae mwy o arian ar gyfer cynlluniau eraill wedi'i ddyrannu ers hynny hefyd. Rwy'n croesawu'r dull hirdymor hwn o weithredu gan Lywodraeth Cymru, mewn cydweithrediad agos ag awdurdodau lleol blaengar. Mae gwaith arall a wnaed gan gyngor RhCT gan ddefnyddio cyllid Llywodraeth Cymru yn cynnwys ymyriadau yng Nghwm-bach i atal llifogydd sydd wedi peri trafferth i fusnesau lleol yno ers amser maith. Mae'r rhain i gyd yn fusnesau lleol sy'n cyflogi pobl leol ac yn cyfrannu at yr economi sylfaenol.
Pan gyfarfûm ag etholwyr yr effeithiwyd arnynt gan lifogydd a siarad am yr anhawster i gael yswiriant, gallais roi gwybod iddynt am gynllun Flood Re a gefnogir gan y Llywodraeth. Dylid gwneud mwy o waith i godi ymwybyddiaeth ohono, a hoffwn weld y cynllun yn cael ei ymestyn fel y gall busnesau elwa o gymorth tuag at eu costau yswiriant uwch hefyd.
Yn olaf, hoffwn gofnodi'n ffurfiol fy niolch i Sefydliad Moondance ac Ymddiriedolaeth Adfywio'r Meysydd Glo am eu cymorth i ariannu a gweinyddu cronfa lifogydd cwm Cynon a sefydlais gyda Beth Winter i gefnogi pobl leol y mae eu bywydau wedi'u troi wyneb i waered gan lifogydd.
Can I call the Minister for Environment, Energy and Rural Affairs, Lesley Griffiths?
A gaf fi alw ar Lesley Griffiths, Gweinidog yr Amgylchedd, Ynni a Materion Gwledig?
Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. I'm pleased to be responding to today's debate. The last 12 months have been extremely challenging, in terms of impact on our communities of multiple flood events across Wales and, of course, the global pandemic.
Last week we once again witnessed the damage flooding can cause, as a result of storm Christoph, with around 250 properties flooded. I'd like to offer my sympathy to all those who were affected, many of whom are still not able to return to their homes. I also want to thank all involved in the response and the recovery efforts to flood events, not only last week, but throughout this last year, as we approach the first anniversary of the February floods, which we are having the debate on today. Without the swift action of Natural Resources Wales, local authorities, our emergency services, water companies and the Coal Authority, I am certain we would have seen many more homes flooded. We must also acknowledge how our network of defences protected thousands of properties and the importance of our ongoing investment to keep these structures well maintained.
Of course, for those people whose homes were flooded, responding to flood events is not just about the day of the incident or the few days following, but also the weeks and months afterwards. Our efforts must continue to ensure such events are investigated, people are supported, and improvements are made to our infrastructure and defences as well as the wider management of water. Following the flooding last February, authorities worked quickly to support residents who had seen their homes flooded and to repair damaged flood risk management assets. I know in Pentre in the Rhondda, for example, the local authority have already implemented a scheme to improve the water course in response to my challenge to risk management authorities to accelerate the delivery of work.
Following flood events, local authorities are required to prepare a section 19 investigation report to look at the reasons for flooding, and bring forward recommendations to reduce future risk. Once completed, these reports are published and subject to scrutiny by residents, elected members and all interested parties. These investigations were heavily impacted by COVID-19 restrictions last year, and some of the hardest hit local authorities needed to prioritise repair and recovery works over investigations. However, I am confident in our local authority staff and their commitment to the safety and well-being of the communities they serve to complete these reports and act upon them where appropriate.
Last month, I responded in detail in the Senedd to the question of an independent inquiry. I announced additional £95,000 revenue support available to each local authority this year to support their flood risk activities, and specifically to help produce and publish their investigation reports. NRW carried out their own internal review following the flooding in February, which complements the section 19 reports and provides recommendations for their improvement around forecasting, warning and response.
In answer to Janet Finch-Saunders about what we're doing to support our risk management authorities, I continue to support them around the country to repair damaged flood assets and ensure they rebuild resilience for the future. Following the storms last February, we acted quickly and decisively in our response to make necessary repairs and improvements. I provided all risk management authorities the opportunity to apply for financial support to undertake emergency repairs to assets, providing 100 per cent funding for this. Welsh Government has provided a total of £4.6 million since then. I was also very pleased to hear her praise for NRW staff—not usually something she does—and I can tell her I was in Bangor-on-Dee on Saturday, and I spoke to several residents whose praise was for the fact it was the highest that the river has been for probably about 20 years and the flood defence was not breached.
We do have a blue belt policy already, and it's about to be toughened through technical advice note 15 and planning policy. That's set out in our new flood strategy. We're also working with local authorities and NRW to fully understand the impact from last week's storm Christoph and how we can best support them. This Government has committed to providing support payments, through local authorities, of up to £1,000 to those who have recently been affected by flooding in their homes or who have unfortunately had to evacuate for more than 24 hours. I just referred to our new national flood strategy—and coastal erosion risk management. I published that last October. It's an ambitious strategy and it does reaffirm the importance we place on flood risk management, along with the growing threat of climate change. We are continuing to work with our risk management authorities and the Association of British Insurers, who are supportive of the approach and additional measures set out in the new strategy.
We know that climate change will bring rising sea levels and more intense storms in the future, and I do recognise Wales faces tough decisions on how to defend low-lying coastal areas and fluvial floodplains, in particular along our estuaries and, of course, in our steep-sided valleys. Our new strategy sets out how Wales will respond to these challenges, emphasising the importance of clear communication on risk, and strengthens our stance in areas including natural flood management, coastal adaptation, planning and prevention, linking with Welsh legislation and other policy areas to ensure a collective approach. Whilst we look to the future, we need to remember the recovery efforts are continuing in places like Skewen, where we saw extraordinary scenes last week. I would like to finish by once again thanking everyone involved in helping to make sure people are safe. Diolch.
Diolch yn fawr iawn, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n falch o ymateb i'r ddadl heddiw. Mae'r 12 mis diwethaf wedi bod yn heriol dros ben, o ran effaith digwyddiadau llifogydd niferus ledled Cymru ar ein cymunedau, a'r pandemig byd-eang wrth gwrs.
Yr wythnos diwethaf gwelsom unwaith eto y difrod y gall llifogydd ei achosi o ganlyniad i storm Christoph, gyda thua 250 eiddo wedi dioddef llifogydd. Hoffwn gynnig fy nghydymdeimlad â phawb yr effeithiwyd arnynt, ac mae llawer ohonynt yn dal i fethu dychwelyd i'w cartrefi. Hoffwn ddiolch hefyd i bawb sy'n ymwneud â'r ymateb i lifogydd a'r gwaith adfer, nid yn unig yr wythnos diwethaf, ond drwy gydol y flwyddyn ddiwethaf, wrth iddi nesáu at fod yn flwyddyn ers y llifogydd ym mis Chwefror, sef testun y ddadl heddiw. Heb weithredu cyflym gan Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru, awdurdodau lleol, ein gwasanaethau brys, cwmnïau dŵr a'r Awdurdod Glo, rwy'n sicr y byddem wedi gweld llawer mwy o gartrefi'n dioddef llifogydd. Rhaid inni hefyd gydnabod sut y diogelodd ein rhwydwaith o amddiffynfeydd filoedd o adeiladau a phwysigrwydd ein buddsoddiad parhaus i sicrhau bod yr eiddo hwn yn cael ei gynnal a'i gadw'n dda.
Wrth gwrs, i'r bobl a ddioddefodd lifogydd yn eu cartrefi, mae ymateb i lifogydd yn ymwneud â mwy na diwrnod y digwyddiad yn unig neu'r ychydig ddyddiau sy'n dilyn, ond yr wythnosau a'r misoedd wedyn hefyd. Rhaid i'n hymdrechion barhau i sicrhau bod ymchwiliadau'n digwydd i ddigwyddiadau o'r fath, fod pobl yn cael eu cefnogi, a bod gwelliannau'n cael eu gwneud i'n seilwaith a'n hamddiffynfeydd yn ogystal â rheoli dŵr yn ehangach. Yn dilyn y llifogydd fis Chwefror diwethaf, gweithiodd awdurdodau'n gyflym i gefnogi preswylwyr a oedd wedi gweld llifogydd yn eu cartrefi ac i atgyweirio asedau rheoli perygl llifogydd a ddifrodwyd. Ym Mhentre yn y Rhondda, er enghraifft, gwn fod yr awdurdod lleol eisoes wedi rhoi cynllun ar waith i wella'r cwrs dŵr mewn ymateb i fy her i awdurdodau rheoli perygl llifogydd y dylid cyflymu'r broses o gyflawni gwaith.
Yn dilyn llifogydd, mae'n ofynnol i awdurdodau lleol baratoi adroddiad ymchwiliad adran 19 i edrych ar y rhesymau dros y llifogydd, a chyflwyno argymhellion i leihau'r risg yn y dyfodol. Ar ôl eu cwblhau, cyhoeddir yr adroddiadau hyn ac maent yn destun craffu gan breswylwyr, aelodau etholedig a phawb sydd â diddordeb. Effeithiodd cyfyngiadau COVID-19 yn fawr ar yr ymchwiliadau hyn y llynedd, ac roedd angen i rai o'r awdurdodau lleol a ddioddefodd fwyaf roi blaenoriaeth i waith atgyweirio ac adfer ar draul ymchwiliadau. Fodd bynnag, mae gennyf hyder y bydd ein staff awdurdod lleol gyda'u hymrwymiad i ddiogelwch a lles y cymunedau y maent yn eu gwasanaethu yn cwblhau'r adroddiadau hyn ac yn gweithredu arnynt lle bo'n briodol.
Y mis diwethaf, ymatebais yn fanwl yn y Senedd i gwestiwn ar ymchwiliad annibynnol. Cyhoeddais gymorth refeniw ychwanegol o £95,000 i fod ar gael i bob awdurdod lleol eleni i gefnogi eu gweithgareddau perygl llifogydd, ac yn benodol i helpu i gynhyrchu a chyhoeddi adroddiadau eu hymchwiliadau. Cynhaliodd CNC ei adolygiad mewnol ei hun yn dilyn y llifogydd ym mis Chwefror, i ategu'r adroddiadau adran 19 ac mae'n darparu argymhellion ar gyfer eu gwella mewn perthynas â darogan, rhybuddio ac ymateb.
I ateb Janet Finch-Saunders ynglŷn â'r hyn rydym yn ei wneud i gefnogi ein hawdurdodau rheoli risg, rwy'n parhau i'w cefnogi ledled y wlad i atgyweirio asedau llifogydd a ddifrodwyd a sicrhau eu bod yn ailadeiladu cydnerthedd ar gyfer y dyfodol. Yn dilyn y stormydd fis Chwefror diwethaf, gwnaethom weithredu'n gyflym ac yn bendant yn ein hymateb i wneud atgyweiriadau a gwelliannau angenrheidiol. Rhoddais gyfle i bob awdurdod rheoli risg wneud cais am gymorth ariannol i gyflawni gwaith atgyweirio brys ar asedau, gan ddarparu cyllid 100 y cant ar gyfer hyn. Mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi darparu cyfanswm o £4.6 miliwn ers hynny. Roeddwn yn falch iawn hefyd o'i chlywed yn canmol staff Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru—nid yw'n rhywbeth y mae'n ei wneud fel arfer—a gallaf ddweud wrthi fy mod ym Mangor Is-coed ddydd Sadwrn, ac fe siaradais â nifer o drigolion a oedd yn canmol y ffaith fod yr afon ar ei huchaf ers tua 20 mlynedd mae'n debyg, a bod yr amddiffynfeydd wedi dal.
Mae gennym bolisi llain las eisoes, ac mae ar fin cael ei gryfhau gan nodyn cyngor technegol 15 a pholisi cynllunio. Mae hynny wedi'i nodi yn ein strategaeth newydd ar gyfer llifogydd. Rydym hefyd yn gweithio gydag awdurdodau lleol a CNC i ddeall effaith storm Christoph yr wythnos diwethaf yn llawn a'r ffordd orau o'u cefnogi. Mae'r Llywodraeth hon wedi ymrwymo i ddarparu taliadau cymorth, drwy awdurdodau lleol, o hyd at £1,000 i'r rhai yr effeithiwyd arnynt yn ddiweddar gan lifogydd yn eu cartrefi neu sydd, yn anffodus, wedi gorfod gadael eu cartref am fwy na 24 awr. Cyfeiriais yn awr at ein strategaeth genedlaethol newydd ar gyfer llifogydd—a rheoli perygl erydu arfordirol. Cyhoeddais honno fis Hydref diwethaf. Mae'n strategaeth uchelgeisiol ac mae'n ailddatgan y pwyslais a roddwn ar reoli perygl llifogydd, ynghyd â bygythiad cynyddol newid hinsawdd. Rydym yn parhau i weithio gyda'n hawdurdodau rheoli risg a Chymdeithas Yswirwyr Prydain, sy'n cefnogi'r dull gweithredu a'r mesurau ychwanegol a nodir yn y strategaeth newydd.
Gwyddom y bydd newid hinsawdd yn arwain at lefelau'r môr yn codi a stormydd gwaeth yn y dyfodol, ac rwy'n cydnabod bod Cymru'n wynebu penderfyniadau anodd ar sut i amddiffyn ardaloedd arfordirol isel a gorlifdiroedd afonol, yn enwedig ar hyd ein haberoedd ac wrth gwrs, yn ein cymoedd serth. Mae ein strategaeth newydd yn nodi sut y bydd Cymru'n ymateb i'r heriau hyn, gan bwysleisio pwysigrwydd cyfathrebu clir ar risg, ac yn cryfhau ein safbwynt mewn meysydd yn cynnwys dulliau naturiol o reoli llifogydd, addasu arfordiroedd, cynllunio ac atal, gan gysylltu â deddfwriaeth Gymreig a meysydd polisi eraill i sicrhau dull cydweithredol. Er ein bod yn edrych i'r dyfodol, mae angen inni gofio bod yr ymdrechion adfer yn parhau mewn lleoedd fel Sgiwen, lle gwelsom olygfeydd eithriadol yr wythnos diwethaf. Hoffwn orffen drwy ddiolch unwaith eto i bawb sy'n ymwneud â'r gwaith o helpu i sicrhau bod pobl yn ddiogel. Diolch.
I call Leanne Wood to reply to the debate.
Galwaf ar Leanne Wood i ymateb i'r ddadl.
We are all eagerly awaiting the outcome of the section 19 process, and that is imminent, but the council are leading on that, and, obviously, the council had a role to play, and have a future role to play, so that is why this process can't be independent. We in Plaid Cymru, and every single one of the people who were flooded who we surveyed, have said that only an independent inquiry will be enough. Unless we have an independent inquiry, I don't think we're going to get the answers that we need. And this isn't about the staff; we all know that staff in all the organisations involved have worked really hard in supporting communities through this. This is bigger than the staff. We cannot accept that now is not the time, and I do not accept that an independent inquiry will hold up other work. That is why we've put this motion today; that is why, if you want to support people who have been flooded in Rhondda Cynon Taf, you will vote to support this motion today, unamended, you will not support the 'delete all' amendments, and you will back the independent inquiry that people in this area really deserve.
Rydym i gyd yn aros yn eiddgar am ganlyniad proses adran 19, ac mae hynny ar fin digwydd, ond mae'r cyngor yn arwain ar hynny, ac yn amlwg, roedd gan y cyngor rôl i'w chwarae, ac mae ganddo rôl i'w chwarae yn y dyfodol, felly dyna pam na all y broses hon fod yn annibynnol. Rydym ni ym Mhlaid Cymru, a phob un o'r bobl a ddioddefodd lifogydd a arolygwyd gennym, wedi dweud mai dim ond ymchwiliad annibynnol fydd yn ddigon. Oni bai ein bod yn cael ymchwiliad annibynnol, nid wyf yn credu y cawn yr atebion sydd eu hangen arnom. Ac nid yw hyn yn ymwneud â'r staff; gwyddom i gyd fod staff ym mhob un o'r sefydliadau dan sylw wedi gweithio'n galed iawn i gefnogi cymunedau drwy hyn. Mae hyn yn fwy na'r staff. Ni allwn dderbyn nad dyma'r amser, ac nid wyf yn derbyn y bydd ymchwiliad annibynnol yn gohirio gwaith arall. Dyna pam ein bod wedi cyflwyno'r cynnig hwn heddiw; dyna pam, os ydych am gefnogi pobl sydd wedi dioddef llifogydd yn Rhondda Cynon Taf, y byddwch yn pleidleisio i gefnogi'r cynnig hwn heddiw, heb ei ddiwygio, pam na fyddwch yn cefnogi'r gwelliannau 'dileu popeth', a pham y byddwch yn cefnogi'r ymchwiliad annibynnol y mae pobl yn yr ardal hon yn ei haeddu.
The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I see objections. Therefore, we will vote on this item at voting time.
Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwelaf wrthwynebiadau. Felly, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar yr eitem hon yn ystod y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Gohiriwyd y pleidleisio tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
Voting deferred until voting time.
In accordance with Standing Order 12.18, I will suspend the meeting before proceeding to voting time. So, the meeting stands suspended.
Yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.18, rwy'n mynd i atal y cyfarfod cyn symud ymlaen at y cyfnod pleidleisio. Felly, mae'r cyfarfod wedi'i atal.
Ataliwyd y Cyfarfod Llawn am 17:23.
Plenary was suspended at 17:23.
Ailymgynullodd y Senedd am 17:28, gyda'r Llywydd yn y Gadair.
The Senedd reconvened at 17:28, with the Llywydd in the Chair.
Dyma ni'n cyrraedd y cyfnod pleidleisio. Mae'r bleidlais gyntaf ar y cynnig i enwebu Ombwdsmon Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus Cymru dros dro. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais, felly, ar y cynnig hynny yn enw John Griffiths. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 48, un yn ymatal, dau yn erbyn, ac felly mae'r cynnig wedi'i gymeradwyo.
That brings us to voting time. The first vote is on the motion to nominate an acting Public Services Ombudsman for Wales. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of John Griffiths. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 48, one abstention and two against, and therefore the motion is agreed.
Eitem 5 - Cynnig i enwebu ar gyfer penodi Ombwdsmon Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus Cymru Dros Dro: O blaid: 48, Yn erbyn: 2, Ymatal: 1
Derbyniwyd y cynnig
Item 5 - Motion to nominate for the appointment of an Acting Public Services Ombudsman for Wales: For: 48, Against: 2, Abstain: 1
Motion has been agreed
Y bleidlais nesaf yw'r bleidlais ar y ddadl o dan Reol Sefydlog 11.21(iv) ar ofal a chymorth i oroeswyr strôc. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig hynny. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 38, 13 yn ymatal a neb yn erbyn, ac felly'r mae'r cynnig yna wedi'i gymeradwyo.
The next vote is on the Member debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv) on care and support for stroke survivors. I call for a vote on the motion. Open the vote. In favour 38, 13 abstentions and non against, and therefore the motion is agreed.
Eitem 6 - Dadl Aelodau o dan Reol Sefydlog 11.21(iv) – Gofal a chymorth ar gyfer goroeswyr strôc - cyflwynwyd yn enw Dai Lloyd: O blaid: 38, Yn erbyn: 0, Ymatal: 13
Derbyniwyd y cynnig
Item 6 - Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv) – Care and support for stroke survivors - tabled in the name of Dai Lloyd: For: 38, Against: 0, Abstain: 13
Motion has been agreed
Mae'r bleidlais nesaf ar ddadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ar gyflenwi a chyflwyno brechlynnau COVID. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Darren Millar. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 11, un yn ymatal a 39 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi ei wrthod.
The next vote is on the Welsh Conservatives debate on the supply and roll-out of COVID-19 vaccines. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Darren Millar. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 11, one abstention and 39 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.
Eitem 7 - Dadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig - Cynnig heb ei ddiwygio: O blaid: 11, Yn erbyn: 39, Ymatal: 1
Gwrthodwyd y cynnig
Item 7 - Welsh Conservatives debate - Motion without amendment: For: 11, Against: 39, Abstain: 1
Motion has been rejected
Gwelliant 1 yw'r bleidlais nesaf, felly, yn enw Rebecca Evans. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 31, pedwar yn ymatal, 16 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r gwelliant wedi ei gymeradwyo.
The next vote is amendment 1, tabled in the name of Rebecca Evans. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 31, four abstentions, and 16 against. Therefore, the amendment is agreed.
Eitem 7 - Gwelliant 1 - cyflwynwyd yn enw Rebecca Evans: O blaid: 31, Yn erbyn: 16, Ymatal: 4
Derbyniwyd y gwelliant
Item 7 - Amendment 1 - tabled in the name of Rebecca Evans: For: 31, Against: 16, Abstain: 4
Amendment has been agreed
Dwi'n galw am bleidlais, felly, ar y cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio.
I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.
Cynnig NDM7562 fel y'i diwygiwyd:
Cynnig bod y Senedd:
1. Yn croesawu gwaith prydlon y rheoleiddiwr annibynnol, yr MHRA, i sicrhau mai’r Deyrnas Unedig oedd y wlad gyntaf yn y byd i awdurdodi brechlyn.
2. Yn nodi’r camau a gymerodd Llywodraeth y DU ar ran y 4 cenedl i sicrhau cyflenwadau brechlyn.
3. Yn nodi bod cyflwyno brechlyn ledled Cymru a gweddill y DU yn dibynnu ar sicrwydd y cyflenwad gan gynhyrchwyr.
4. Yn nodi bod oedi o ran cyflenwi OAZ wedi cael effaith uniongyrchol ar gyflwyno’r brechlyn ym maes gofal sylfaenol.
5. Yn nodi strategaeth Llywodraeth Cymru i gyflawni 3 carreg filltir allweddol:
a) erbyn canol mis Chwefror—cynnig brechiad i holl breswylwyr ac aelodau o staff cartrefi gofal; aelodau o staff iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol rheng flaen; pawb dros 70 a phawb eithriadol o agored i niwed yn glinigol;
b) erbyn y gwanwyn—cynnig brechiad i bob grŵp blaenoriaeth arall yng ngham un, sef pawb dros 50 a phawb sydd â risg uwch oherwydd cyflwr iechyd sylfaenol;
c) erbyn yr hydref—cynnig brechiad i bob oedolyn cymwys arall yng Nghymru, yn unol â chanllawiau’r Cyd-bwyllgor ar Imiwneiddio a Brechu (JCVI).
Motion NDM7562 as amended:
To propose that the Senedd:
1. Welcomes the swift action taken by the independent regulator, the MHRA, ensuring the UK was the first country in the world to authorise a vaccine.
2. Notes the action taken by the UK Government on behalf of the 4 nations to secure vaccine supplies.
3. Notes that roll-out across Wales and the rest of the UK is dependent on security of supply from the manufacturers.
4. Notes that delays in supply of OAZ have a direct impact on roll out in primary care.
5. Notes the Welsh Government strategy to deliver the following 3 key milestones:
a) by mid-February—all care home residents and staff; frontline health and social care staff; everyone over 70 and everyone who is clinically extremely vulnerable will have been offered vaccination;
b) by the spring—vaccination will have been offered to all the other phase one priority groups. This is everyone over 50 and everyone who is at-risk because they have an underlying health condition;
c) by the autumn—vaccination will have been offered to all other eligible adults in Wales, in line with any guidance issued by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI).
Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 32, tri yn ymatal, 16 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio wedi ei dderbyn.
Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 32, three abstentions, and 16 against. Therefore, the motion as amended is agreed.
Eitem 7 - Dadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig - Cynnig fel y'i diwygiwyd: O blaid: 32, Yn erbyn: 16, Ymatal: 3
Derbyniwyd y cynnig fel y'i diwygiwyd
Item 7 - Welsh Conservatives debate - Motion as amended: For: 32, Against: 16, Abstain: 3
Motion as amended has been agreed
Mae'r bleidlais nesaf ar ddadl Plaid Cymru ar lifogydd yn Rhondda Cynon Taf. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Siân Gwenllian. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid wyth, 14 yn ymatal ac mae 29 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi ei wrthod.
The next vote is on the Plaid Cymru debate: flooding in Rhondda Cynon Taf. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Siân Gwenllian. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour eight, 14 abstentions, and 29 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.
Eitem 8 - Dadl Plaid Cymru - Cynnig heb ei ddiwygio: O blaid: 8, Yn erbyn: 29, Ymatal: 14
Gwrthodwyd y cynnig
Item 8 - Plaid Cymru debate - Motion withough amendment: For: 8, Against: 29, Abstain: 14
Motion has been rejected
Gwelliant 1 yw'r bleidlais nesaf. Os caiff gwelliant 1 ei dderbyn, bydd gwelliant 2 yn cael ei ddad-ddethol. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar welliant 1 yn enw Darren Millar. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 10, tri yn ymatal, 38 yn erbyn. Mae gwelliant 1 wedi ei wrthod.
The next vote is on amendment 1. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. I call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Darren Millar. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 10, three abstentions, and 38 against. Amendment 1 is therefore not agreed.
Eitem 8 - Gwelliant 1 - Cyflwynwyd yn enw Darren Millar: O blaid: 10, Yn erbyn: 38, Ymatal: 3
Gwrthodwyd y gwelliant
Item 8 - Amendment 1 - Tabled in the name of Darren Millar: For: 10, Against: 38, Abstain: 3
Amendment has been rejected
Gwelliant 2 yw'r gwelliant nesaf, felly, yn enw Rebecca Evans. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 28, 13 yn ymatal, 10 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r gwelliant wedi ei dderbyn.
Amendment 2 is next in the name of Rebecca Evans. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 28, 13 abstentions, and 10 against. Therefore, the amendment is agreed.
Eitem 8 - Gwelliant 2 - Cyflwynwyd yn enw Rebecca Evans: O blaid: 28, Yn erbyn: 10, Ymatal: 13
Derbyniwyd y gwelliant
Item 8 - Amendment 2 - Tabled in the name of Rebecca Evans: For: 28, Against: 10, Abstain: 13
Amendment has been agreed
Y bleidlais nesaf wedyn yw'r cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio, felly.
The next vote is on the motion as amended. I call for a vote on the motion as amended.
Cynnig NDM7561 fel y'i diwygiwyd:
Cynnig bod y Senedd:
1. Yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i:
a) cymeradwyo gwaith yr ymatebwyr brys, yr awdurdodau rheoli perygl llifogydd a phawb a gyfrannodd at yr ymateb i achosion difrifol o lifogydd yn 2020 a 2021 yn Rhondda Cynon Taf ac ar draws Cymru;
b) sicrhau bod yr holl ymchwiliadau annibynnol ynghylch llifogydd yn destun craffu gan y cyhoedd ac arbenigwyr annibynnol fel bod y ffeithiau llawn ar gael a bod modd gweithredu yn eu cylch;
c) parhau i gefnogi ein Hawdurdodau Rheoli Perygl Llifogydd yn Rhondda Cynon Taf ac ar draws Cymru er mwyn sicrhau bod yr amddiffynfeydd yn parhau’n weithredol ac er mwyn helpu’r perchenogion cartrefi y mae’r llifogydd wedi effeithio arnynt a hynny wrth iddynt ymdopi â phandemig y coronafeirws; a
d) cefnogi’r mesurau yn ein Strategaeth Genedlaethol newydd ar gyfer rheoli perygl llifogydd ac erydu arfordirol er mwyn sicrhau ein bod yn gwneud ein cymunedau’n fwy cydnerth fel eu bod yn gallu ymdopi â’r peryglon cynyddol ddifrifol sy’n deillio o’r newid yn yr hinsawdd.
Motion NDM7561 as amended:
To propose that the Senedd:
1. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a) commend the work of the emergency responders, flood risk management authorities and all those who helped in the response to intense flooding events in 2020 and 2021 in Rhondda Cynon Taf and across Wales;
b) ensure all independent flood investigations are subject to scrutiny by the public and independent experts so the full facts are available and can be acted upon;
c) continue to support our Risk Management Authorities in Rhondda Cynon Taf and across Wales to ensure defences remain operational and help those homeowners who have been affected by the impacts of flooding whilst coping with the coronavirus pandemic; and
d) support the measures in our new National Strategy for flood and coastal risk to ensure we increase the resilience of our communities to the increasingly severe risks from the changing climate.
Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 28, 14 yn ymatal, naw yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio wedi ei dderbyn.
Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 28, 14 abstentions, and nine against. Therefore, the motion as amended is agreed.
Eitem 8 - Dadl Plaid Cymru - Cynnig fel y'i diwygiwyd: O blaid: 28, Yn erbyn: 9, Ymatal: 14
Derbyniwyd y cynnig fel y'i diwygiwyd
Item 8 - Plaid Cymru debate - Motion as amended : For: 28, Against: 9, Abstain: 14
Motion as amended has been agreed
Dyna ddiwedd ar ein pleidleisiau am y dydd heddiw, ond mae'r ddadl fer eto i'w chwblhau.
And that concludes voting time for today.
Felly, dwi'n gofyn i gyflwynydd y ddadl fer honno i'w chyflwyno hi, a dwi'n galw felly ar Laura Anne Jones.
But we will now move to the short debate, and I call on Laura Anne Jones to speak to the topic that she has chosen.
Carry on, you're unmuted now. Oh, you were unmuted, then—. There you go.
Parhewch, mae eich meic ar agor nawr. O, roedd eich meic ar agor cynt, felly—. Dyna chi.
Now I'm unmuted. Sorry, that took a while. Thank you, Presiding Officer. This is on making a pitch for the future, about artificial grass pitches in Wales. I thank you, Presiding Officer, and I've agreed that Jack Sargeant and Rhun ap Iorwerth can have time to contribute to this debate, and I thank them in advance for making the contributions.
Mae fy meic ar agor nawr. Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, fe gymerodd hynny beth amser. Diolch, Lywydd. Dadl yw hon ar baratoi at y dyfodol, am gaeau chwaraeon porfa artiffisial yng Nghymru. Diolch, Lywydd, ac rwyf wedi cytuno y gall Jack Sargeant a Rhun ap Iorwerth gael amser i gyfrannu at y ddadl, a diolch iddynt ymlaen llaw am eu cyfraniadau.
We all recognise the importance of children, young people and adults taking part in sport. Team sports participation promotes health and well-being, builds confidence, teaches discipline, to work as a team, and it helps to maintain mental health. This Government need to commit to ensuring children and adults of all sporting abilities and all parts of Wales, urban and rural, have easy access to all-year-round, all-weather sporting facilities close to where they live.
For those who need clarification on what I'm talking about, as I mention 3G and 4G to some people and they think I'm talking about phone signal, it's fair enough; not everyone is a sport nut like me. I'm talking about artificial grass pitches, the different levels and the different thickness and quality for professional or community use. However, you don't need to be a sport nut to recognise the ever-increasing importance of such facilities, which, like with many things, have been highlighted by this pandemic. It's imperative, therefore, that we do all that we can to encourage and facilitate those who wish to get involved in sport.
As soon as we hit the winter, many sporting opportunities have to stop due to the weather impacting our pitches and ability to train or play matches. When I was secretary of a local junior football club, the biggest barrier stopping children playing sport throughout the winter was the weather and its effect on the real grass pitches. The major issue has sparked a surge in football swapping from grass to third generation pitches that the whole community can enjoy without the worry of damaging the pitch. The stresses of training and matches having to be continually cancelled for many, many clubs throughout our winter months, particularly in rural areas where facilities are poor, is just not good enough in 2021.
It's true that poor quality artificial pitches in the 1980s did create a stigma that's difficult to shake off, but synthetic pitches have now reached much higher standards than they did when they first became popular, which is great news for players and coaches and forces manufacturers to leave no stone unturned when delivering on quality. The growth in popularity of small-sided soccer means a huge proportion of young players will now develop their skills on synthetic pitches. As a result, many are used to the consistency that man-made services offer and many of our towns are benefiting from that, but not, unfortunately, many of our rural areas. Today, artificial grass pitches don't just replicate the playing conditions on natural turf; in some cases, it can exceed them. From the coaching perspective, as well as the consistency, these surfaces are favoured as they replicate the bounce and run of a natural surface.
I commissioned research into the need and want for artificial grass pitches when I joined the Senedd last year, which was carried out by a Welsh veteran footballer who had the knowledge and access to all levels of football and sports that would benefit from having such closed pitches based in a club close to where they lived. The response was phenomenal and conclusive, from grass-roots junior sports clubs to Newport county manager, Michael Flynn. The need for all-weather training and playing facilities was apparent. Children and young people will be able to play all year round, ensuring continuity in their fitness levels, from mental health from playing sport and seeing their friends, to learning key skills, they'll be able to play sport in the winter months, as many families are unable to take their children the distance required to travel to facilities in local towns that clubs have to hire, or see their children not play sport. It will ensure normal grass football and rugby pitches aren't ruined from overplay when they're trying to play in the wet weather and mud. Adults, too, want to continue playing throughout the winter months. It's essential for our lower-league clubs that they continue to train and play and for all our leagues throughout Wales, because, of course, it mucks up fixtures and they're continually headaches for those sport clubs to try and re-do the fixtures.
For professional sport, it would mean they are on an equal footing with the rest of the UK and world and give children the very best opportunities for us to develop future Welsh sporting stars. Professional clubs could train, play and train in all weather, all year round, to ensure fixtures can go ahead and that clubs can develop academies without having to worry about pitches.
The installation of 3G pitches actually has the potential to create new sources of income and greater opportunities for people to get involved in sport at all levels. A wide range of sport can be played on these latest 3G pitches in addition to football, which means that community clubs can provide multi-sport facilities, creating essential hubs that would undoubtedly be fully booked all year round, from the evidence that I've collected, as the need is so great for these all-weather facilities.
Like with any financial outlay, sports clubs, when considering artificial turf, will need to look at the payback period and the return on the investment. I know the Football Association of Wales, Hockey Wales, Welsh Rugby Union, working in conjunction with Sport Wales have established a nationally agreed vision and model for developing clubs and increasing participation through appropriately located and fit-for-purpose playing surfaces. I've had a conversation with those organisations who wholeheartedly agree there is an absolute need for Wales to invest in more 3G and 4G pitches for our community and professional use. The FAW has set up a target of 100 3G pitches in Wales by 2024. This is very welcome, but where? I would press the Government to ensure the roll-out—for there to be more pitches, and to go further for all parts of Wales. We need it to go further to ensure the whole of Wales benefits from the expansion of the artificial grass pitches, as they are overwhelmingly present in urban areas and south Wales at the moment.
Presiding Officer, as you can tell, I believe passionately in the benefits of us investing in 3G and 4G all-weather facilities for community sport and our league clubs, and for communities to enjoy. There are so many benefits for our country; sport-wise, but also in the mental health benefits for people young and old. It would completely reform grass-roots rugby, football and other sports for all ages and all abilities. It would give our professionals equal opportunities to develop their game, ensuring that we don't lose future stars to England due to the facilities being so much better over the border. It's time Wales caught up.
I was devastated to learn a couple of years ago when applying for a pitch myself that the funding had ceased for the roll-out of these 3G and 4G pitches. I don't want to make this party-political at all, in fact, and I welcome the Government's new commitment to roll out these pitches further. But I ask this Government and the next to invest heavily and invest fast in rolling out a programme of ensuring all-weather 3G and 4G pitches for as many parts of Wales as possible, which are easy to reach for all communities, 3G and 4G sports access for all across our country, with particular focus on rural areas, and a joined-up approach in supporting our lower leagues with those facilities, so we can support the creation at the same time of more academies and more opportunities for our young people to exceed in sport. I please ask you all for your support in this. Thanks.
Rydym i gyd yn cydnabod pwysigrwydd cymryd rhan mewn chwaraeon i blant, pobl ifanc ac oedolion. Mae cymryd rhan mewn chwaraeon tîm yn hybu iechyd a lles, yn adeiladu hyder, yn meithrin disgyblaeth i weithio fel tîm, ac mae'n helpu i gynnal iechyd meddwl. Mae angen i'r Llywodraeth hon ymrwymo i sicrhau bod plant ac oedolion o bob gallu yn y byd chwaraeon a phob rhan o Gymru, boed drefol neu wledig, yn gallu gwneud defnydd hawdd o gyfleusterau chwaraeon drwy gydol y flwyddyn ac ym mhob tywydd yn agos at ble maent yn byw.
I'r rhai sydd angen eglurhad ynglŷn â'r hyn rwy'n sôn amdano, pan fyddaf yn sôn wrth rai pobl am 3G a 4G maent yn meddwl fy mod i'n siarad am signal ffôn, ac mae hynny'n ddigon teg; nid yw pawb yn dwli ar chwaraeon fel fi. Rwy'n sôn am gaeau chwaraeon porfa artiffisial, y gwahanol lefelau a'r gwahanol drwch ac ansawdd at ddefnydd proffesiynol neu gymunedol. Fodd bynnag, nid oes raid eich bod yn dwli ar chwaraeon i gydnabod pwysigrwydd cynyddol cyfleusterau o'r fath, sydd, fel gyda llawer o bethau, wedi cael ei amlygu gan y pandemig hwn. Mae'n hanfodol, felly, ein bod yn gwneud popeth yn ein gallu i annog a hwyluso pethau i'r rhai sy'n dymuno cymryd rhan mewn chwaraeon.
Cyn gynted ag y daw'n aeaf, rhaid i lawer o gyfleoedd chwaraeon ddod i ben am fod y tywydd yn effeithio ar ein caeau chwaraeon a'n gallu i hyfforddi neu chwarae gemau. Pan oeddwn yn ysgrifennydd clwb pêl-droed iau lleol, y rhwystr mwyaf i atal plant rhag cymryd rhan mewn chwaraeon drwy gydol y gaeaf oedd y tywydd a'i effaith ar y caeau chwaraeon porfa go iawn. Mae'r broblem fawr wedi sbarduno ymchwydd yn nifer y caeau pêl-droed porfa a gafodd eu troi'n gaeau chwaraeon trydedd genhedlaeth y gall y gymuned gyfan eu mwynhau heb boeni am ddifrodi'r cae. Nid yw'r straen i lawer iawn o glybiau o orfod canslo hyfforddiant a gemau'n barhaus drwy gydol misoedd y gaeaf, yn enwedig mewn ardaloedd gwledig lle mae cyfleusterau'n wael, yn ddigon da yn 2021.
Mae'n wir fod caeau chwaraeon artiffisial o ansawdd gwael yn y 1980au wedi creu stigma sy'n anodd ei ddileu, ond mae caeau chwaraeon synthetig wedi cyrraedd safon lawer uwch bellach na'r hyn a welid pan ddaethant yn boblogaidd am y tro cyntaf, ac mae hynny'n newyddion gwych i chwaraewyr a hyfforddwyr ac mae'n gorfodi gweithgynhyrchwyr i wneud popeth yn eu gallu i sicrhau ansawdd. Mae'r cynnydd ym mhoblogrwydd timau pêl-droed llai nag unarddeg bob ochr yn golygu y bydd cyfran enfawr o chwaraewyr ifanc bellach yn datblygu eu sgiliau ar gaeau chwaraeon synthetig. O'r herwydd, mae llawer wedi arfer â'r cysondeb y mae gwasanaethau artiffisial yn ei gynnig ac mae llawer o'n trefi'n elwa o hynny, ond yn anffodus, nid yw hynny'n wir am lawer o'n hardaloedd gwledig. Heddiw, mae caeau chwaraeon porfa artiffisial yn gallu rhagori ar yr amodau chwarae a geir ar borfa naturiol, yn hytrach na dim ond eu hefelychu. Yn ogystal â'r cysondeb, mae'n well gan hyfforddwyr yr arwynebau hyn am eu bod yn efelychu'r ffordd y mae peli'n bownsio ac yn symud dros arwyneb naturiol.
Comisiynais ymchwil i'r angen a'r awydd am gaeau chwaraeon porfa artiffisial pan ymunais â'r Senedd y llynedd, a gwnaed y gwaith gan gyn bêl-droediwr Cymru a oedd â gwybodaeth a mynediad at bobl ar bob lefel o bêl-droed a chwaraeon a fyddai'n elwa o gael caeau caeedig o'r fath mewn clwb yn agos at ble roeddent yn byw. Roedd yr ymateb yn rhyfeddol ac yn ddiymwad, o glybiau chwaraeon iau ar lawr gwlad i reolwr tîm Casnewydd, Michael Flynn. Roedd yr angen am hyfforddiant a chyfleusterau chwarae pob tywydd yn amlwg. Bydd plant a phobl ifanc yn gallu chwarae drwy gydol y flwyddyn, gan sicrhau dilyniant yn eu lefelau ffitrwydd, o iechyd meddwl drwy chwarae chwaraeon a gweld eu ffrindiau, i ddysgu sgiliau allweddol, byddant yn gallu chwarae chwaraeon yn ystod misoedd y gaeaf, gan nad yw llawer o deuluoedd yn gallu cludo'u plant dros y pellter sydd angen ei deithio i gyfleusterau mewn trefi lleol y byddai'n rhaid i glybiau eu llogi, neu weld eu plant yn methu chwarae chwaraeon. Bydd yn sicrhau nad yw caeau pêl-droed a rygbi porfa arferol yn cael eu difetha drwy orchwarae pan fyddant yn ceisio chwarae yn y tywydd gwlyb a'r llaid. Mae oedolion hefyd am barhau i chwarae drwy gydol misoedd y gaeaf. Mae'n hanfodol i'n clybiau is-gynghrair eu bod yn parhau i hyfforddi a chwarae ac i'n holl gynghreiriau ledled Cymru, oherwydd, wrth gwrs, mae ceisio ail-drefnu gemau'n drysu trefniadau ac yn creu trafferthion parhaus i glybiau chwaraeon.
Ar gyfer chwaraeon proffesiynol, byddai'n golygu eu bod ar yr un lefel â gweddill y DU a'r byd ac yn rhoi'r cyfleoedd gorau posibl inni ddatblygu plant yn sêr chwaraeon Cymru yn y dyfodol. Gallai clybiau proffesiynol chwarae a hyfforddi ym mhob tywydd drwy gydol y flwyddyn er mwyn sicrhau y gall gemau ddigwydd ac y gall clybiau ddatblygu academïau heb orfod poeni am gaeau chwaraeon.
Gallai gosod caeau 3G greu ffynonellau incwm newydd a mwy o gyfleoedd i bobl gymryd rhan mewn chwaraeon ar bob lefel. Gellir chwarae ystod eang o chwaraeon ar y caeau 3G diweddaraf hyn yn ogystal â phêl-droed, sy'n golygu y gall clybiau cymunedol ddarparu cyfleusterau aml-chwaraeon, gan greu canolfannau hanfodol a fyddai'n sicr yn cael eu llogi'n llawn drwy gydol y flwyddyn, yn ôl y dystiolaeth a gasglais, gan fod cymaint o angen y cyfleusterau pob tywydd hyn.
Fel gydag unrhyw wariant ariannol, bydd angen i glybiau chwaraeon edrych ar y cyfnod ad-dalu a'r elw ar y buddsoddiad wrth ystyried porfa artiffisial. Rwy'n gwybod bod Cymdeithas Bêl-droed Cymru, Hoci Cymru, Undeb Rygbi Cymru, yn gweithio ar y cyd â Chwaraeon Cymru, wedi sefydlu gweledigaeth a model y cytunwyd arnynt yn genedlaethol ar gyfer datblygu clybiau a chynyddu nifer y rhai sy'n cymryd rhan drwy arwynebau chwarae wedi'u lleoli'n briodol ac addas i'r diben. Rwyf wedi cael sgwrs gyda'r sefydliadau hynny sy'n cytuno'n llwyr fod angen dybryd i Gymru fuddsoddi mewn mwy o gaeau chwaraeon 3G a 4G at ein defnydd cymunedol a phroffesiynol. Mae Cymdeithas Bêl-droed Cymru wedi sefydlu targed o 100 o gaeau chwaraeon 3G yng Nghymru erbyn 2024. Mae hyn i'w groesawu'n fawr, ond ymhle? Byddwn yn pwyso ar y Llywodraeth i sicrhau ei bod yn cyflwyno—i gael mwy o gaeau chwaraeon, ac i fynd ymhellach ar gyfer pob rhan o Gymru. Mae angen iddi fynd ymhellach i sicrhau bod Cymru gyfan yn elwa o ehangu'r nifer o gaeau chwaraeon porfa artiffisial, gan eu bod i'w gweld yn bennaf mewn ardaloedd trefol ac yn ne Cymru ar hyn o bryd.
Lywydd, fel y gallwch ddweud, rwy'n credu'n angerddol yn y manteision o fuddsoddi mewn cyfleusterau 3G a 4G pob tywydd ar gyfer chwaraeon cymunedol a'n clybiau cynghrair, ac i gymunedau eu mwynhau. Mae cynifer o fanteision i'n gwlad; o ran chwaraeon, ond hefyd o ran y manteision iechyd meddwl i bobl hen ac ifanc. Byddai'n diwygio rygbi, pêl-droed a chwaraeon eraill ar lawr gwlad yn llwyr ar gyfer pob oedran a phob gallu. Byddai'n rhoi cyfle cyfartal i'n chwaraewyr proffesiynol ddatblygu eu gêm, gan sicrhau nad ydym yn colli sêr y dyfodol i Loegr oherwydd bod y cyfleusterau gymaint yn well dros y ffin. Mae'n bryd i Gymru ddal i fyny.
Fe'm digalonnwyd pan glywais ychydig flynyddoedd yn ôl wrth wneud cais am gae chwarae fy hun fod yr arian wedi dod i ben ar gyfer cyflwyno'r caeau chwaraeon 3G a 4G hyn. Nid wyf am wneud hwn yn fater pleidiol o gwbl mewn gwirionedd, ac rwy'n croesawu ymrwymiad newydd y Llywodraeth i gyflwyno'r caeau chwaraeon hyn ymhellach. Ond rwy'n gofyn i'r Llywodraeth hon a'r nesaf fuddsoddi'n helaeth a buddsoddi'n gyflym i gyflwyno rhaglen ar gyfer sicrhau caeau chwaraeon 3G a 4G pob tywydd ar gyfer cynifer o rannau o Gymru â phosibl, caeau chwaraeon sy'n hawdd i bob cymuned eu cyrraedd, mynediad at chwaraeon 3G a 4G i bawb ym mhob rhan o'n gwlad, gan ganolbwyntio'n benodol ar ardaloedd gwledig, a dull cydgysylltiedig o gefnogi ein his-gynghreiriau gyda'r cyfleusterau hynny, fel y gallwn gefnogi'r broses ar yr un pryd o greu mwy o academïau a mwy o gyfleoedd i'n pobl ifanc allu rhagori mewn chwaraeon. Rwy'n gofyn i bawb ohonoch gefnogi hyn. Diolch.
Thank you to Laura Anne Jones for allowing me to speak in this important short debate. I, too, am very passionate, like Laura, about improving sports facilities, not just in my community but across Wales, and I know the difference that artificial pitches can make.
A community with a real case for an artificial pitch development is Buckley in Alyn and Deeside. They have an amazing Welsh-supported local club, Buckley town. They have had huge battles over the years with issues with drainage, and it would not be uncommon in a normal season for the team to have most of their home games postponed because of the issue. And this is a real issue in Buckley, as it is across in other constituencies and communities across Wales.
Llywydd, I have met with the FAW and Sport Wales and will be using the post-COVID period to urge these organisations to get right behind an artificial pitch for Buckley, alongside the local authority and the local councillors. But I think Laura Anne Jones made a good point in her contribution, and I'll be urging the Minister responsible today, the Deputy Minister for sport, to throw his weight behind these projects, but I'll also be urging the future Minister with responsibility for these types of developments to throw their weight and influence behind these community developments, which are so important to so many.
Llywydd, in finishing, Buckley needs a pitch, and it's not just for football on a Saturday; it's for a whole community, all week, all year round, and we all must do all we can to deliver it. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Diolch i Laura Anne Jones am ganiatáu imi siarad yn y ddadl fer bwysig hon. Rwyf finnau hefyd yn angerddol iawn, fel Laura, ynglŷn â gwella cyfleusterau chwaraeon, nid yn unig yn fy nghymuned i ond ledled Cymru, a gwn am y gwahaniaeth y gall caeau chwaraeon artiffisial ei wneud.
Cymuned sydd ag achos go iawn dros ddatblygu caeau chwaraeon artiffisial yw Bwcle yn Alun a Glannau Dyfrdwy. Mae ganddynt glwb pêl-droed anhygoel ag iddo gefnogaeth gref yn lleol, sef tîm Bwcle. Maent wedi cael brwydrau enfawr dros y blynyddoedd gyda phroblemau'n ymwneud â draenio, ac ni fyddai'n anghyffredin mewn tymor arferol i'r tîm ohirio'r rhan fwyaf o'u gemau cartref oherwydd y broblem. Ac mae hon yn broblem go iawn ym Mwcle, fel y mae ar draws etholaethau a chymunedau eraill ledled Cymru.
Lywydd, rwyf wedi cyfarfod â Chymdeithas Bêl-droed Cymru a Chwaraeon Cymru a byddaf yn defnyddio'r cyfnod ar ôl COVID i annog y sefydliadau hyn i gefnogi cae chwaraeon artiffisial ar gyfer Bwcle, ochr yn ochr â'r awdurdod lleol a'r cynghorwyr lleol. Ond rwy'n credu bod Laura Anne Jones wedi gwneud pwynt da yn ei chyfraniad, a byddaf yn annog y Gweinidog sy'n gyfrifol heddiw, y Dirprwy Weinidog chwaraeon, i gefnogi'r prosiectau hyn, ond byddaf hefyd yn annog y Gweinidog yn y dyfodol a fydd yn gyfrifol am y mathau hyn o ddatblygiadau i gefnogi ac i ddefnyddio'u dylanwad ar ran y datblygiadau cymunedol hyn, sydd mor bwysig i gynifer o bobl.
Lywydd, wrth orffen, mae angen cae ar Bwcle, ac nid ar gyfer pêl-droed ar ddydd Sadwrn yn unig; mae ar gyfer cymuned gyfan, drwy'r wythnos, drwy gydol y flwyddyn, ac mae'n rhaid i bawb ohonom wneud popeth yn ein gallu i gyflawni hyn. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Diolch am y cyfle gan Laura i ddweud gair neu ddau. Mae hwn yn fater sy'n agos iawn at fy nghalon i. Mae adnoddau bob-tywydd mor, mor bwysig. Dwi wedi chwarae ac wedi hyfforddi ar gaeau 3G, gan gynnwys chwarae i'r Senedd ar Barc yr Arfau Caerdydd, ac mae'r cae 3G yn Llangefni wir wedi ein galluogi ni fel clwb rygbi i hyfforddi ieuenctid reit trwy'r tywydd gwaethaf mae Ynys Môn yn gallu taflu atom ni. Ond mae'n rhaid i ni gael mwy o adnoddau fel hyn. Dwi wedi bod yn gwneud cymaint â gallaf i drio tyfu cefnogaeth a chael buddsoddiad i gaeau 3G newydd yn Amlwch a Chaergybi. Mae yna fenter gymunedol yn gwneud gwaith gwych yn Amlwch. Mae yna gynllun i Gaergybi rŵan, er nid cae maint llawn—dwi'n cario ymlaen i wthio tuag at gael yr adnoddau gorau posib ar gyfer y dref. Felly, gadewch i ni wir blaenoriaethu, gadewch i ni weld y Llywodraeth wir yn blaenoriaethu, buddsoddi mewn adnoddau pob tywydd am eu budd iechyd a'u budd cymunedol nhw.
Thank you, Laura, for the opportunity to say a few words. This is an issue that is very close to my heart. All-weather facilities are so very important. I've played and coached on 3G pitches, including playing for the Senedd on the Arms Park in Cardiff, and there's a 3G pitch in Llangefni that has enabled us as a rugby club to train youngsters through the very worst weather that Anglesey can throw at us. But we need more of these resources. I've been doing everything I can to develop support and attract investment for new 3G pitches in Amlwch and Holyhead. There's a community initiative doing excellent work in Amlwch. There is a plan in place for Holyhead, although it isn't a full-size pitch, and I'm eager to push for the best possible facilities for the town. So, let us truly prioritise this. Let us see the Government prioritise investment in all-weather facilities and there will be community and health benefits to that.
Y Dirprwy Weinidog i ymateb i'r ddadl—Dafydd Elis-Thomas.
The Deputy Minister to reply to the debate—Dafydd Elis-Thomas.
Gaf i ddiolch yn fawr, yn gyntaf, i Laura Anne?
May I first of all thank Laura Anne?
I'm very grateful to you for bringing this debate forward. It's very timely. It's timely for me, as the current sports Minister, but it's also timely in this crisis, because nothing has more demonstrated the importance—the essentiality, I would say, the essential need—for physical exercise, and to give people a choice of physical exercise, than the crisis that we've been through.
I will respond with my nice formal ministerial speech in Welsh. I know you won't object to that, because you're used to listening to me through translation, and it probably sounds better than I sound in the original.
Rwy'n ddiolchgar iawn i chi am gyflwyno'r ddadl hon. Mae'n amserol iawn. Mae'n amserol i mi, fel y Gweinidog chwaraeon presennol, ond mae hefyd yn amserol yn yr argyfwng hwn, oherwydd nid oes dim wedi dangos yn fwy eglur pa mor bwysig—hanfodolrwydd, ddywedwn i, yr angen hanfodol—am ymarfer corff, ac i roi dewis o ymarfer corff i bobl, na'r argyfwng rydym wedi bod drwyddo.
Fe wnaf ateb gyda fy araith weinidogol ffurfiol braf yn Gymraeg. Rwy'n gwybod na fyddwch yn gwrthwynebu hynny, oherwydd rydych wedi arfer gwrando arnaf drwy gyfieithiad, ac yn ôl pob tebyg, fe fydd yn swnio'n well nag y swniaf yn y gwreiddiol.
Fel y dywedais i, mae hwn wedi bod yn gyfnod heriol, ac mae chwaraeon wedi cael eu heffeithio yn arbennig. Roeddwn i'n falch o allu cyhoeddi'r pecyn yn gynharach yr wythnos yma o £17 miliwn, sy'n golygu y bydd yna gyfanswm cyllid ar gyfer y sector chwaraeon o £40 miliwn ers dechrau'r argyfwng yma. Rydym ni yn gyfan gwbl gefnogol fel Llywodraeth i'r hyn a ddywedwyd yn gynharach yn y ddadl yma.
Mae gan Gymru ar hyn o bryd, yn ôl ffigyrau Chwaraeon Cymru—ac maen nhw wastad yn gywir—84 o gaeau 3G maint llawn, a 77 o gaeau gyda thywarch artiffisial hoci maint llawn, a 116 o gaeau artiffisial eraill. Ond dwi ddim yn siŵr os mae 'caeau artiffisial' yw gair dwi'n ei hoffi yn Gymraeg neu Saesneg, achos caeau bob tywydd ydy'r rhain. Maen nhw'n dal yn feysydd chwarae, felly ddylem ni ddim yn eu galw nhw caeau—meysydd chwarae bob tywydd rydw i am eu galw nhw. Mewn tywydd fel sydd gyda ni yng Nghymru, mae hynny'n hanfodol. Mae'n rhaid inni gael cyfleusterau cyfoes er mwyn sicrhau bod cyfranogaeth pobl ym mhob tywydd mewn chwaraeon yng Nghymru yn gallu digwydd.
Felly, mae'r buddsoddiad rydym ni wedi'i wneud yn barod ar gaeau yn dangos y posibiliadau. Mae gyda ni ar hyn o bryd grŵp cyfleusterau, fel y gwyddoch chi, grŵp cyfleusterau chwaraeon cydweithredol, sy'n cael ei arwain gan Chwaraeon Cymru, gan gynnwys Ymddiriedolaeth Cymdeithas Pêl-droed Cymru, yr undeb rygbi a Hoci Cymru, i sefydlu arwynebau chwarae artiffisial—dwi newydd wrthod y gair yna, felly gwnaf ei newid o—arwynebau chwarae penodol pob tywydd ledled Cymru. Yn ogystal â'r £3 miliwn a fuddsoddwyd pan sefydlwyd y grŵp yma, mae yna £731,000 ychwanegol wedi'i fuddsoddi mewn caeau tywarch ledled Cymru trwy gymorth y gronfa cyfalaf newydd gwerth £5 miliwn a gyhoeddwyd gen i y llynedd. Mae hynny'n golygu bod Ymddiriedolaeth Cymdeithas Pêl-droed Cymru wedi gallu cefnogi'r 77 o gaeau pêl-droed artiffisial, efo targed o 100, fel y clywsom ni, erbyn 2024.
Felly, beth sy'n rhoi llawenydd mawr i mi heno yw bod yna gefnogaeth tair plaid i'r project yma. Os gallaf i wneud un peth ar ddiwedd fy nhymor fel Gweinidog chwaraeon, sicrhau bod chwaraeon wastad yn fater y bydd pob plaid yng Nghymru yn ei gefnogi heb ddadlau amdano, a hefyd yn cefnogi'r modd y gallem ni ddatblygu ein projectau. Felly, dwi'n ddiolchgar i Jack Sargeant, Rhun ap Iorwerth a Laura am eu cyfraniad i'r ddadl yma. Diolch yn fawr.
As I said, this has been a very challenging time, and sport has been hit particularly. I was pleased to be able to announce a package earlier this week of £17 million, which will mean that the total funding for the sector will be more than £40 million since the beginning of this crisis. We are entirely supportive as a Government of what was said earlier during this debate.
Wales, according to Sport Wales's figures—and they're always right, of course—has 84 3G pitches; those are full-size pitches. There are 77 artificial turf pitches for hockey, and 116 other artificial pitches, and that's across Wales. But I'm not sure if 'artificial pitches' is the term that I would favour in either English or Welsh, because they are all-weather facilities. They are still playing fields. We should perhaps not call them 'fields', but I would like to call them all-weather facilities. In the weather that we have here in Wales, that's crucially important, of course. We must have modern facilities in order to ensure that people's participation in all weathers in sport in Wales can occur.
Therefore, the investment that we have already put in place for these facilities does show the possibilities available. At the moment, as you will know, we have a collaborative sports facilities group, led by Sport Wales, which includes the Football Association of Wales Trust, the Welsh Rugby Union and Hockey Wales, to establish artificial playing surfaces—I've just rejected that term, but they are involved with providing all-weather surfaces across Wales, and, in addition to the £3 million invested when the group was established, there has been an additional £731,000 invested in turf pitches across Wales through the new £5 million capital fund I announced last year. That means that the FAW Trust has been able to support 77 3G artificial football pitches, with a target of 100, as we've heard, by 2024.
So, what gives me great joy this evening is that there is three-party support for that project, and if I can do one thing at the end of my term as sport Minister, it would be to ensure that sport is always an issue that all parties in Wales will support without argument, and also support the way in which we can develop these projects. So, I'm grateful to Jack Sargeant, Rhun ap Iorwerth and Laura Jones for their contributions to this debate. Thank you very much.
Diolch i chi, Dirprwy Weinidog, a dyna ni, dyna ddod â'n gwaith ni am y dydd heddiw i ben. Prynhawn da, bawb.
Thank you, Deputy Minister, and that brings today's proceedings to a close. Good afternoon.
Daeth y cyfarfod i ben am 17:50.
The meeting ended at 17:50.