16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769378 0 Cy 2026-09-16T00:00:00 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=-35103&l=en 260916-0 C 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769454 1 Cy 260916-0 I The proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included. Where contributors have supplied corrections to their evidence, these are noted in the transcript. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769379 2 Cy 260916-0 I The committee met in the Senedd and by video-conference. The meeting began at 09:45. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769386 3 Cy 2026-09-16T09:45:10 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=7&l=en 260916-1 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn May I welcome you all this morning to the second meeting of the Economy, Energy and Connectivity Committee? It's a pleasure to welcome members of the public here today. This meeting is being broadcast live on Senedd.tv. It will be a bilingual meeting and, therefore, you can use English or Welsh. Are there any apologies? 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769396 4 En 2026-09-16T09:45:33 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=30&l=en 260916-1 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Any apologies? I think there's one apology, isn't there, from Shav, is it? Yes, okay. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769397 5 Cy 2026-09-16T09:45:41 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=38&l=en 260916-1 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn We will note that apology.  16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769410 6 Cy 2026-09-16T09:45:44 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=41&l=en 260916-2 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn The majority of this session is to note papers that we have received, so I will go through them individually. If anyone wants to draw attention to anything in particular, you can do so. So, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769398 7 En 2026-09-16T09:46:09 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=66&l=en 260916-2 2. Papers to Note C 12183 12183 Tom Montgomery https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12183 Montomery, Tom Chair, it was just quickly that I wanted to note the disappointment in the delay that we're still seeing from National Grid. Their hold-up is holding up over £1 billion-worth of public funding for Port Talbot, so I'd just be really interested to get a further update from National Grid towards the end of the year, and to note the disappointment still in that they're not able to get that work done. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769399 8 En 2026-09-16T09:46:38 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=95&l=en 260916-2 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Thank you, and I'm sure that's noted. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769400 9 En 2026-09-16T09:46:40 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=97&l=en 260916-2 2. Papers to Note C 12183 12183 Tom Montgomery https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12183 Montomery, Tom Thanks, Chair. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769401 10 Cy 2026-09-16T09:46:41 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=98&l=en 260916-2 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Thank you very much. Items 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, 2.10, 2.11, 2.12. Now, with 2.12, there is an issue there where, in going through the documents, it's apparent that there are still questions of clarity and consistency in terms of the relationship with Wales on railways. It's a very complex situation, so I suggest that we write to the Westminster Government to emphasise some of our concerns with regard to those issues once again, which, at the end of the day, relate to the benefit of the people of Wales, as well as facilitating the process in due course. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769402 11 En 2026-09-16T09:47:55 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=172&l=en 260916-2 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn All content with that? 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769403 12 Cy 2026-09-16T09:47:57 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=174&l=en 260916-2 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Okay. Thank you very much. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769405 13 Cy 260916-3 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting I Motion: that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vii) and (ix). 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769406 14 Cy 260916-3 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting I Motion moved. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769407 15 Cy 2026-09-16T09:48:02 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=179&l=en 260916-3 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn As there are no other issues, I, therefore, suggest that we turn to Standing Orders and, in accordance with Standing Orders 17.42(vii) and 17.42(ix), I propose that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Are members of the committee content to do so? Yes. Thank you very much. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769408 16 Cy 260916-3 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting I Motion agreed. The public part of the meeting ended at 09:48.