16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769378 0 Cy 2026-09-16T00:00:00 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=-35103&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=-35103&l=en 260916-0 C 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769454 1 Cy 260916-0 I Cofnodir y trafodion yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y pwyllgor. Yn ogystal, cynhwysir trawsgrifiad o’r cyfieithu ar y pryd. Lle mae cyfranwyr wedi darparu cywiriadau i’w tystiolaeth, nodir y rheini yn y trawsgrifiad. The proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included. Where contributors have supplied corrections to their evidence, these are noted in the transcript. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769379 2 Cy 260916-0 I Cyfarfu’r pwyllgor yn y Senedd a thrwy gynhadledd fideo. Dechreuodd y cyfarfod am 09:45. The committee met in the Senedd and by video-conference. The meeting began at 09:45. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769386 3 Cy 2026-09-16T09:45:10 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=7&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=7&l=en 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniadau, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Gaf i eich croesawu chi i gyd yma heddiw i ail gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Economi, Ynni a Chysylltedd? Mae'n bleser croesawu aelodau'r cyhoedd atom ni heddiw. Mae'r cyfarfod yma'n cael ei ddarlledu ar Senedd.tv. Mi fydd yn gyfarfod dwyieithog, felly mae modd i rywun ddefnyddio'r Gymraeg neu Saesneg. Oes yna unrhyw ymddiheuriadau? May I welcome you all this morning to the second meeting of the Economy, Energy and Connectivity Committee? It's a pleasure to welcome members of the public here today. This meeting is being broadcast live on Senedd.tv. It will be a bilingual meeting and, therefore, you can use English or Welsh. Are there any apologies? 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769396 4 En 2026-09-16T09:45:33 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=30&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=30&l=cy 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniadau, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Any apologies? I think there's one apology, isn't there, from Shav, is it? Yes, okay. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769397 5 Cy 2026-09-16T09:45:41 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=38&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=38&l=en 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniadau, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Mi wnawn ni nodi'r ymddiheuriad hwnnw.  We will note that apology.  16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769410 6 Cy 2026-09-16T09:45:44 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=41&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=41&l=en 260916-2 2. Papurau i'w nodi 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Mae'r rhan fwyaf o'r sesiwn yma i nodi papurau rydyn ni wedi eu derbyn, felly af i drwyddyn nhw a'u nodi'n unigol. Os yw unrhyw un eisiau tynnu sylw at rywbeth yn arbennig, gallwch chi dynnu sylw at hynny. Felly, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3. The majority of this session is to note papers that we have received, so I will go through them individually. If anyone wants to draw attention to anything in particular, you can do so. So, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769398 7 En 2026-09-16T09:46:09 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=66&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=66&l=cy 260916-2 2. Papurau i'w nodi 2. Papers to Note C 12183 12183 Tom Montgomery AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12183 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12183 Montomery, Tom Chair, it was just quickly that I wanted to note the disappointment in the delay that we're still seeing from National Grid. Their hold-up is holding up over £1 billion-worth of public funding for Port Talbot, so I'd just be really interested to get a further update from National Grid towards the end of the year, and to note the disappointment still in that they're not able to get that work done. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769399 8 En 2026-09-16T09:46:38 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=95&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=95&l=cy 260916-2 2. Papurau i'w nodi 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Thank you, and I'm sure that's noted. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769400 9 En 2026-09-16T09:46:40 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=97&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=97&l=cy 260916-2 2. Papurau i'w nodi 2. Papers to Note C 12183 12183 Tom Montgomery AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12183 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12183 Montomery, Tom Thanks, Chair. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769401 10 Cy 2026-09-16T09:46:41 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=98&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=98&l=en 260916-2 2. Papurau i'w nodi 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Diolch yn fawr iawn. Eitemau 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, 2.10, 2.11, 2.12. Rŵan, efo 2.12, mae yna fater lle, o fynd trwy'r dogfennau, mae'n amlwg bod yna'n dal cwestiwn o ran clarity a chysondeb, i ddweud y gwir, o ran y berthynas efo Cymru, o ran rheilffyrdd. Mae hi'n sefyllfa gymhleth iawn, ac felly yr awgrym ydy ein bod ni yn ysgrifennu at Lywodraeth San Steffan i amlygu, efallai, rai o'r pryderon a materion hynny unwaith eto er, ar ddiwedd y dydd, lles trigolion Cymru yn ogystal â hwyluso'r broses maes o law. Thank you very much. Items 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, 2.10, 2.11, 2.12. Now, with 2.12, there is an issue there where, in going through the documents, it's apparent that there are still questions of clarity and consistency in terms of the relationship with Wales on railways. It's a very complex situation, so I suggest that we write to the Westminster Government to emphasise some of our concerns with regard to those issues once again, which, at the end of the day, relate to the benefit of the people of Wales, as well as facilitating the process in due course. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769402 11 En 2026-09-16T09:47:55 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=172&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=172&l=cy 260916-2 2. Papurau i'w nodi 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn All content with that? 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769403 12 Cy 2026-09-16T09:47:57 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=174&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=174&l=en 260916-2 2. Papurau i'w nodi 2. Papers to Note C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Ocê. Diolch yn fawr iawn. Okay. Thank you very much. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769405 13 Cy 260916-3 3. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting I Cynnig: bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42(vii) a (ix). Motion: that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vii) and (ix). 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769406 14 Cy 260916-3 3. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting I Cynigiwyd y cynnig. Motion moved. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769407 15 Cy 2026-09-16T09:48:02 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16243?startPos=179&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16243?startPos=179&l=en 260916-3 3. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting C 8371 8371 Elwyn Vaughan https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8371 Vaughan, Elwyn Gan fod yna ddim byd arall, felly, gaf i ategu fy mod i'n awgrymu ein bod ni'n gweithredu'r Rheolau Sefydlog? Yn unol â Rheolau Sefydlog 17.42(vii) ac 17.42(ix), rwy'n cynnig bod y pwyllgor yn gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. A yw aelodau'r pwyllgor yn fodlon? Iawn. Diolch yn fawr iawn.  As there are no other issues, I, therefore, suggest that we turn to Standing Orders and, in accordance with Standing Orders 17.42(vii) and 17.42(ix), I propose that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Are members of the committee content to do so? Yes. Thank you very much. 16243 7 2026-09-16T09:45:10 769408 16 Cy 260916-3 3. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting I Derbyniwyd y cynnig. Daeth rhan gyhoeddus y cyfarfod i ben am 09:48. Motion agreed. The public part of the meeting ended at 09:48.