16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769356 0 Cy 2026-09-16T00:00:00 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=-34196&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=-34196&l=en 260916-0 C 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769423 1 Cy 260916-0 I Cofnodir y trafodion yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y pwyllgor. Yn ogystal, cynhwysir trawsgrifiad o’r cyfieithu ar y pryd. Lle mae cyfranwyr wedi darparu cywiriadau i’w tystiolaeth, nodir y rheini yn y trawsgrifiad. The proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included. Where contributors have supplied corrections to their evidence, these are noted in the transcript. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769357 2 Cy 260916-0 I Cyfarfu’r pwyllgor yn y Senedd. Dechreuodd y cyfarfod am 09:30. The committee met in the Senedd. The meeting began at 09:30. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769359 3 En 2026-09-16T09:30:01 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=5&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=5&l=cy 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest C 8585 8585 James Evans AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 Evans, James Good morning and welcome, everyone, to the Climate Change, Environment, Sustainability and Rural Affairs Committee. I'd like to note that the public items of this meeting are being broadcast live on Senedd.tv, for all the thousands of people who are watching us from around the world, and the Record of Proceedings will be published as usual. I note that the meeting is bilingual, so Members can communicate via Cymraeg and Saesneg if they want to. I note that I've had apologies from Paul Rock and also from Gareth Beer. I'd like to ask Members now if there are any declarations of interest. I don't see any declarations of interest— 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769364 4 En 2026-09-16T09:30:38 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=42&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=42&l=cy 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest C 143 143 Andrew R.T. Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=143 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=143 Davies, Andrew R.T. Chair, a declaration. I'm a farmer and a director in a farming business. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769365 5 En 2026-09-16T09:30:42 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=46&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=46&l=cy 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest C 8585 8585 James Evans AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 Evans, James I should declare an interest as well. It's on my relevant interests, on my register. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769366 6 En 2026-09-16T09:30:49 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=53&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=53&l=cy 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest C 12178 12178 Anna Nicholl AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12178 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12178 Nicholl, Anna Maybe I should declare an interest. I'm the owner of some agricultural land that's rented out. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769367 7 En 2026-09-16T09:30:54 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=58&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=58&l=cy 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest C 8585 8585 James Evans AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 Evans, James That's fine. I think they've been noted. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769368 8 En 2026-09-16T09:30:55 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=59&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=59&l=cy 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest C 12171 12171 David Mills AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12171 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12171 Mills, David I'm down as well, then. I have a smallholding, but there's nothing on it.  16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769375 9 En 2026-09-16T09:31:01 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=65&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=65&l=cy 260916-1 1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest C 8585 8585 James Evans AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 Evans, James I can't wait for everyone on Twitter who's going to comment about this. Thank you very much, Members. [Interruption.] Yes. As you know, people have got their register of interests and I'm sure people who are watching will check those. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769377 10 En 2026-09-16T09:31:13 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=77&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=77&l=cy 260916-2 2. Papurau i'w nodi 2. Papers to note C 8585 8585 James Evans AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 Evans, James We move on to item 2, papers to note. They have been circulated as part of the agenda pack. Is everybody content with the items and the papers to note? Lovely, that is fantastic. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769381 11 Cy 260916-3 3. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod hwn 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting I Cynnig: bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42(ix). Motion: that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(ix). 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769382 12 Cy 260916-3 3. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod hwn 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting I Cynigiwyd y cynnig. Motion moved. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769383 13 En 2026-09-16T09:31:23 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16232?startPos=87&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16232?startPos=87&l=cy 260916-3 3. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod hwn 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting C 8585 8585 James Evans AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8585 Evans, James We move on to item 3, which is a motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Are Members content? Members are content, so we'll now proceed in private. Diolch yn fawr. Thank you to all those people who tuned in this morning. 16232 7 2026-09-16T09:30:02 769384 14 Cy 260916-3 3. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod hwn 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting I Derbyniwyd y cynnig. Daeth rhan gyhoeddus y cyfarfod i ben am 09:31. Motion agreed. The public part of the meeting ended at 09:31.