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15778 6 2026-03-23T14:15:13 760815 5 Cy 260323-0 I The proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included. Where contributors have supplied corrections to their evidence, these are noted in the transcript.

15778 6 2026-03-23T14:15:13 760801 6 Cy 260323-0 I The committee met in the Senedd and by video-conference. The meeting began at 14:15.

15778 6 2026-03-23T14:15:13 760805 7 Cy 2026-03-23T14:15:13 http://www.senedd.tv/en/15778?startPos=4&l=en 260323-1 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest C 241 241 Jenny Rathbone https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=241 Rathbone, Jenny Good afternoon. Welcome back.

15778 6 2026-03-23T14:15:13 760806 8 En 2026-03-23T14:15:15 http://www.senedd.tv/en/15778?startPos=6&l=en 260323-1 1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest C 241 241 Jenny Rathbone https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=241 Rathbone, Jenny Welcome to the last meeting of the Equality and Social Justice Committee in this sixth Senedd. All Members are present, and I assume there are no new declarations of interest.

15778 6 2026-03-23T14:15:13 760808 9 En 2026-03-23T14:15:35 http://www.senedd.tv/en/15778?startPos=26&l=en 260323-2 2. Papers to note C 241 241 Jenny Rathbone https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=241 Rathbone, Jenny We have four papers to note. Before we go into private session, I just want to publicly thank the clerks, the research staff, the legal department, the sound recordists, and the translators, both from Welsh to English and from Welsh and English to British Sign Language, and from British Sign Language to English. Without all of these teams of people, our work would not have been possible or accessible to all of the people of Wales. So, thank you very much indeed for all of your fabulous work.

15778 6 2026-03-23T14:15:13 760817 10 Cy 260323-3 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of the meeting I Motion: that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi).

15778 6 2026-03-23T14:15:13 760818 11 Cy 260323-3 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of the meeting I Motion moved.

15778 6 2026-03-23T14:15:13 760819 12 En 2026-03-23T14:16:16 http://www.senedd.tv/en/15778?startPos=67&l=en 260323-3 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of the meeting C 241 241 Jenny Rathbone https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=241 Rathbone, Jenny Could I now ask that we move into private session?

15778 6 2026-03-23T14:15:13 760820 13 Cy 260323-3 3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of the meeting I Motion agreed. The public part of the meeting ended at 14:16.