Y Pwyllgor Materion Allanol a Deddfwriaeth Ychwanegol - Y Bumed Senedd

External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee - Fifth Senedd


Aelodau'r Pwyllgor a oedd yn bresennol

Committee Members in Attendance

Alun Davies AM
David Melding AM
David Rees AM Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor
Committee Chair
Delyth Jewell AM
Huw Irranca-Davies AM

Swyddogion y Senedd a oedd yn bresennol

Senedd Officials in Attendance

Alun Davidson Clerc
Claire Fiddes Dirprwy Glerc
Deputy Clerk
Elisabeth Jones Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol
Legal Adviser
Gareth David Thomas Ymchwilydd
Rhys Morgan Ail Glerc
Second Clerk

Cofnodir y trafodion yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y pwyllgor. Yn ogystal, cynhwysir trawsgrifiad o’r cyfieithu ar y pryd. Lle mae cyfranwyr wedi darparu cywiriadau i’w tystiolaeth, nodir y rheini yn y trawsgrifiad.

The proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included. Where contributors have supplied corrections to their evidence, these are noted in the transcript.

Dechreuodd y cyfarfod am 14:00.

The meeting began at 14:00.

1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau
1. Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Good afternoon. Can I welcome members of the public and members of the committee to this afternoon's meeting of the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee? Can I remind Members the meeting is bilingual and, therefore, if you require simultaneous translation from Welsh to English, that's available via the headphones on channel 1? If you require amplification, that's available on the headphones on channel 0. Can I remind everyone please to turn off your mobile phones or other equipment that may interfere with the broadcasting equipment? There are no fire alarms scheduled for today, so if one does occur, please follow the directions of the ushers to a safe location.

We have received apologies from Joyce Watson, Mark Reckless and Michelle Brown. There are no substitutes identified for today. And if any Members have any interests to declare, please do so at this point in time. There are none.

2. Papurau i’w nodi
2. Papers to note

We move on to item 2 on the agenda, and there are papers to note. The first paper is a correspondence from the Auditor General for Wales to stakeholders regarding a consultation on their three-year forward work programme. And just to highlight, it does include that they continue to look at Brexit in their forward work programme. I'm sure, in some of the other work, they'll look at how it impacts upon some of the other aspects as well. Are Members content to note that paper?

The second paper is from the Counsel General regarding the Welsh EU exit statutory instruments programme, because we did ask him regarding this matter last week, and he has now sent us some information relating to the number of SIs being presented to the Welsh Assembly and also on a UK basis. Are Members content to note the information we received from the Counsel General?

The third paper to note there is draft clauses proposed by the Welsh Government to the withdrawal agreement Bill. These are draft clauses proposed—we haven't yet seen the withdrawal Bill, so we can't confirm whether the UK Governments have included them or not at this point in time, but to note at this moment.

And the fourth paper is correspondence from the Minister for International Relations and the Welsh Language regarding the UK Trade Bill and the legislative consent memorandum, which we debated last week. Seeing as we have gone through this debate, are Members content to note that paper? Thank you for that.

3. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42(vi) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod
3. Motion under Standing Order 17.42(vi) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting


bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42(vi).


that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi).

Cynigiwyd y cynnig.

Motion moved.

We move on to item 3 on the agenda, which is a motion under Standing Order 17.42(vi) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting today. Are Members content to do so? In that case, we now move into private session for the remainder of today's meeting.

Derbyniwyd y cynnig.

Daeth rhan gyhoeddus y cyfarfod i ben am 14:02.

Motion agreed.

The public part of the meeting ended at 14:02.