Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol

Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee

17/06/2019

Aelodau'r Pwyllgor a oedd yn bresennol

Committee Members in Attendance

Carwyn Jones
Dai Lloyd
Mick Antoniw Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor
Committee Chair
Suzy Davies

Swyddogion y Senedd a oedd yn bresennol

Senedd Officials in Attendance

Alex Hadley Dirprwy Glerc
Deputy Clerk
Gareth Howells Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol
Legal Adviser
P Gareth Williams Clerc
Clerk
Rhiannon Lewis Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol
Legal Adviser
Sarah Sargent Ail Glerc
Second Clerk
Stephen Davies Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol
Legal Adviser

Cofnodir y trafodion yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y pwyllgor. Yn ogystal, cynhwysir trawsgrifiad o’r cyfieithu ar y pryd. Lle mae cyfranwyr wedi darparu cywiriadau i’w tystiolaeth, nodir y rheini yn y trawsgrifiad.

The proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, a transcription of the simultaneous interpretation is included. Where contributors have supplied corrections to their evidence, these are noted in the transcript.

Dechreuodd y cyfarfod am 14:45.

The meeting began at 14:45.

1. Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datganiadau o fuddiant
1. Introduction, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

This is a meeting of the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee. The usual housekeeping rules will apply. In terms of apologies, I've had apologies from Dawn Bowden, and Suzy Davies will be attending as a substitute for David Melding. Are there any declarations of interest?

2. Offerynnau sy’n cynnwys materion i gyflwyno adroddiad arnynt i'r Cynulliad o dan Reol Sefydlog 21.2 neu 21.3
2. Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Assembly under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3

So, if there aren't any declarations, we move straight on to the agenda, on to item 2—instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Assembly under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3. We have the Regulation and Inspection of Social Care (Wales) Act 2016 (Consequential and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2019. Before us, we have a report, regulations and explanatory memorandum. These regulations make amendments to the Licensing and Management of Houses in Multiple Occupation and Other Houses (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Wales) Regulations 2006, and the Independent Review of Determinations (Adoption and Fostering) (Wales) Regulations 2010. The amendments are needed to correct minor errors that have been made to those instruments. Are there any comments, any issues, any observations on that? Shall we note those? Okay. 

We then move on to item 2.2—the Regulated Advocacy Services (Service Providers and Responsible Individuals) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2019, and we have a report, regulations and explanatory memorandum. And, again, these regulations make minor corrective amendments to references in the regulated advocacy services regulations 2019. The regulations address technical issues that were previously reported by this committee during its scrutiny of the 2019 regulations. Any comments, observations? Shall we note those? Absolutely.

3. Datganiadau Ysgrifenedig o dan Reol Sefydlog 30C
3. Written Statements under Standing Order 30C

Written statements under Standing Order 30C. We have the Environment and Rural Affairs (Amendment) (EU Exit) Regulations 2019, and you'll see with the papers the statement and the commentary, and, again, these regulations make a number of minor technical amendments to ensure consistency between the four instruments listed in the statement and other EU exit statutory instruments. Any comments, observations? Okay. So, we note those. 

4. Papurau i’w nodi
4. Papers to note

We move on to item 4, then—papers to note. We have the letter from the Counsel General about the Joint Ministerial Committee (Europe) meeting. I think that's just there to be noted.

Item 4.2—a letter from the Llywydd with regard to the Senedd and Elections (Wales) Bill. So, Members are invited to note the letter from the Llywydd concerning proposals for making the Electoral Commission accountable to the Assembly. The letter is, of course, relevant to our scrutiny of the Senedd and Elections (Wales) Bill, in particular section 27. Can I suggest that we defer that to private session?

Item 4.3, then—a letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services: the National Health Service (Welsh Language in Primary Care Services) (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Wales) Regulations 2019. So, you're invited to note the letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services, and, again, this is a letter in response to our letter of 29 May, which endorsed points raised by the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee in its letter of 10 May to the Minister. I think we endorsed that. And, of course, there is a debate on these regulations, and there is a motion to annul those regulations, tabled by Dai Lloyd, which is coming up this Wednesday, and I'll also be making a statement on that in respect of our particular concerns. Shall we note that?

5. Cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o'r cyfarfod
5. Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting

Cynnig:

bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42(vi).

Motion:

that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi).

Cynigiwyd y cynnig.

Motion moved.

Moving on to item 5—motion under Standing Order 17.42(vi). So, I invite the committee to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Do Members agree? That's agreed. Okay, we now move into private session. 

Derbyniwyd y cynnig.

Daeth rhan gyhoeddus y cyfarfod i ben am 14:49.

Motion agreed.

The public part of the meeting ended at 14:49.